Need help with 'detailed' info concerning LCT AK's
 

For a little while I've been wanting to get a new AEG.. I've long ago noticed LCT seem to have nice original AK variants; but, unfortunately, due to my own ignorance (and the "out of stock" and very little amount of LCT's variants most stores seem to have).. I kind of brushed them off, and figured they we're either dead, or so bad no one ever bought those anymore.

Seeing most of my team seem to be fielding M4/M16 (and American-style weaponry), I've given a look into AK's. I've ALWAYS had a fondness for the all black, no-rail AK74 and the newer short variants, 104, 105, etc..

I came across this beauty:
http://albertaairsoft.com/airsoft-gu...mn-nv-aeg.html

Anyways, I've tried looking it up on youtube, and googled it.. and I've come up with zip-nothing in terms of hard detailed specs.

This is the MOST I've come up with:
http://www.foxairsoft.com/airsoft-gu...c-airsoft-gun/
..which includes your typical sellers overview.

From this seller's perspective, the guns internals seem solid.. but from their perspective, they all sound "solid". I notice they mark down the gun at 390 FPS while WGC Shop says 290-300..?? kind of a major difference there!

I've did a little more research, and understand they are a top-end brand when it comes to external build; noticed lots of LCT parts and AEG's on WGC. Parts seem plentiful, and I especially like their front-end kits option.

Thing is I can't seem to find detailed info on the internals, what type of battery would be recommended, if it's wired Tamiya/Deans, etc.. I don't want a phaser-gun, so I'd rather stick close to the real AK74's RoF.. but I also want to keep a nice crisp trigger response. Would it be safe to run a 7.4 LiPo instead of an AK stick-type? Are these typical V3 Gearboxes like any other AK use? or does LCT use proprietary parts?

I'm sorry if the answer is right under my nose, I've looked around, read a few articles here about LCT's, but nothing concrete seems to come up.

My thanks in advance!

as far as i know its a standard v3 gearbox and also canadian retailers will obviously have higher FPS than a HK retailer like WGC due to the importation laws... which I assume that you'd know but if you didnt guns need to shoot at a certain FPS before they can be imported by the retailers.

They're an all steel beast approaching VFC in terms of overall quality and exceeding them in some areas.

Awesome AEG for the price you definitely wont be disappointed. This will blow the socks off any dboys or cyma out there(externals wise)

I got mine from capitol and its shooting just under 400 with .2s. ROF is decent didn't test what it was exactly.

This is the main battle rifle of Manitoba Ivan.

EXTREMELY solid gun for a shockingly low price.

As a tech, and user I would say I would pick this gun 100% of the time given the choice between a VFC and LCT.

I got one of these for myself last year. VERY well made. Not as "real" as my Real Sword AEGs, but very close. You will not be disappointed.

I can vouch for the quality of the LCT externals, "solid" (as in strong with a nice feel) and they look good too. As Troy mentioned, not quite Real Sword nice but damn close.

Gearbox is standard V3, nothing proprietary that I'm aware of. I don't have any first hand knowledge of the internals. From what I've read on them they're on par with CYMA. Like with any new gun I would plan on a re-lube/shim and check of the air seal for best performance.

Has CYMA actually improved their internals?

LCT internals are fantastic out of the box. Perfect air seal on my RPK and several others I've used.

Our team runs 5 of these. This is our standard rifle.

Only one has been taken down but from our tech's review it was pretty solid, decently clean inside. Good for a stock AEG, better than CYMA for sure. Obviously upgraded parts will be better, but the motor, shimming, air seal are all good to go. 150ft accurate range out of the box. Only issue we have as a team is the stock hopup tends to lose it's spot after a while, so you will have to reset. We all run ours with 7.4v 25c 1300mAh's, shoots like a dream with decently realistic ROF. Stock trigger response is good, for a stock AEG. It is wired to Tamiya.

I guarantee you will not be disappointed with the LCT. 3 of ours shot 390-400, one shot 410, and one shot 370 out of the box.

I run their akm nice wood nice metal great fit n finnish. Shoots good round 400 fps round 16-18rps on a 9.6 mine is a full stock so i can run just about any battery i run a 9.6 nunchuck folding stock will run a 9.6 stick in the top cover. Its wired to mini tamiya but easy to swap to deans so far internals look great had it all tore down just didnt crack the gearbox yet (dont fix it if it aint broke) the stock barel is a 6.02 (i think) and after swapping tk a tightbore i just put the stock barrel back that worked beter with my bridge style hop up nub.
Id say grab one you wont be dissapointed.
As far as i know lct and vfc are clones of eachother just cant recall who copy who lol both are nice.
Cobhc666
Try putting a small oring under the silver washer on the hop up thatll keep it inplace

I have both an Aims and a RPK LCT. I have been running my RPK on 11.1 lipo's with a AK style drum mag for the last year and have had no internal problems. Any Lipo AK stick type battery will easily fit in their AK line.
The only issue that all LCT AK's share is that their outer barrels are held in place by two tiny grub screws that tend to loosen. You will notice that all of a sudden your dust cover wont stay in place and then magazines wont feed proper.
I was just in Airsoftgear.ca this week and although they don't have their LCT's on their website they have a whole wall of them and they are all on sale I think for $300.

As a Real Sword user... I thought I had the nicest Ak around, then I held an LCT AK at TAC'13. Get it man, you won't regret purchasing one.

Did I sell you one at the show? :D

Myself and a few of my friends (3 others) all got LCT AK's. Together we have 4 different variants (AK74MN, RPKS74, AK74, and the AK G-03 variant). I can say without a doubt some of the best AK's I've ever held and used.

Externally on each of our AK's is almost perfect. Beautiful wood finishes and even the ABS on the 74MN is solid. There are no creaks on any of our guns. The only exception is the rear sight, which can be easily lost if it gets twisted in a certain way. Stick with the NV versions (stands for New Version) which breaks down similarly to real actual AK's. Very decent weight as well.

Internally everything is also solid, out of the box each of our AK's shot 370 ~ 410 (depending on the inner barrel lengths are what makes the difference) and I would say say our variances range are in a small 5+/- FPS range. Hopup and rubber are acceptable, and probably don't need to change out of the box. The stock inner barrel is fine, no need to change.

Here are the small things we had issues with:
- As stated before, you need to secure your rear sight, otherwise you'll lose it forever. And they're not cheap, around $40 a piece
- Hop up adjuster arm needs to be stabilized somehow to keep it in place. It's too loose, a shim or tape (temporarily) will hold it in place well
- Motor is a tad slow, but still a decent ROF, I would say stock on a 7.4 LiPo I get 12-14 RPS (or 720 to 840 RPM). It's not bad though and still decent enough to keep up.
- You absolutely need the magwell spacer. Essentially its a piece that fits into the magwell which covers the gearbox. Not sure why LCT wouldn't include this piece, but it drastically improves your loading capability (your mags won't get caught on the wrong notch in the receiver) http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/...er&catid=&cat=
- We had small issues with CYMA mags fitting in some of the AK's, which were solved by sanding some of the notches down.
- Stock connector is mini Tamiya that needs to be changed to something (we're running deans on all of ours)

That's about it. I highly recommend these AK's, for the price I see them going for there's no real reason to buy any other brands

LCT's are beautiful, chicom AK wanabe crap going on, it's an AK plain and simple.

While I loved my old VFC AKS74U DX, sadly, I sold it when money was tight, unless I could get one of the DX or DX II BNIB, I would, and do plan, to pick up an LCT>

Get an LCT and you will not regret it.

Airsoftparts.ca also has the magwell spacer.
Ill ad to the mag fitment issue. One metal mag i have (unknown brand) and the gandp waffle mags i had also didnt fit correctly the front block needed a mm or so shaved off of each side or they are just too tight. Took 5 minuts sith a file to do 4 mags now they fit perfect.
Save yorself hassels and just buy lct mags they are nice!
Also if you plan on changing hop up rubbers and inner barrels do it befor puttin the magwell spacer in its a pain to remove without removing the gearbox and makes it imposible to remove the inner and hop up assembly

I forgot to set e-mails to "instant" for my thread.. decided to take a look anyways... Well, HECK.... anyone else want to try and convince me MORE!? I've never had such a positive feedback on an AEG!

So I think I should maybe contact AirsoftGear directly to have a list of their models then.. I do like the AK74, but I would rather a shorter version, like the 105/104.

Gee, I dunno what else to say, thanks to all you guys for your input, it's very much appreciated. I'm rpetty intent on external build, had a CA UMP in the past.. hated the poor finish, seam lines, cheap rails, had a bad CA first experience.

If you want an internal review of the gun I have a link here for you:
http://www.foxairsoft.com/news/1111/...un-review.html
The guy takes apart the gearbox so you can see what is inside exactly.

Yeah, I've seen a few of their reviews; the unfortunate thing is that they do not seem to ship to Canada. I've e-mailed them about this.. but that would suck because they are the only distributor (out of 4) that has any stock and that stock many models, everywhere else have the older models.

You are AV'd. Don't ask for where to get guns outside of the restricted areas. the rule applies to you and noobs alike! Nor post who sells them even if you can't get in touch with them

Sorry, my bad. =\

I've fixed this, put it in the right section:
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=152857

Can a GP-30 Grenade Launcher be mounted to the shorter variants? 102/104/105?

If so, what brand GP-30 will fit LCT's? (or is the GP-30 launcher pretty much universal and fits any AK?)

I'm not sure off the top of my head, but I seem to recall hearing about issues with mounting them on shorter variants, though they're meant for use with the 100 series if I'm not mistaken

the GP-25 will not fit because it mounts to the this bayonet lug style mount at the end of the gas tube. This is only present on full length AKs not carbine models

Alright, I understand.

Another question is concerning the front kits and the external parts, like handguards..

I've noticed that you can buy entire front kits:
example: http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/...ct&catid=&cat=

What I'm wondering, is if these front ends are interchangeable from body styles; can I simply get an entire AKM front-end kit (like in the link) and simply slide it onto an ak74 body?

Are the handguard parts the same size for all AK47/AKM/AK74 models? (naturally depending on the gas tube that matches the right body-style).

Well, I just got my LCT AK74MN (New Version)...
...this is a SWEET rifle!

I am really impressed with the assembly; it all feels really solid!

I was NOT impressed with the grip itself though, kinda feels loose, had to put in a small shaving of electric tape in the back notch for it to stop wiggling.. and it feels like the cheapest plastic ever.
The handguard is ok. I'll have to grease most parts, like the rear sights and the bolt spring/guide.. they aren't smooth at all (a quick fix).

But those are all things I plan on playing around with anyways; real steel handguards, grip, sling, etc. I've been looking at the optics at Kalinkaoptics.com as well. I've read somewhere LCT's take real steel optics, due to the side mount being an exact replica (correct me if wrong).

Otherwise, it fires nice and hard, only tested with my 8.4V 1600mAh stick.. waiting on a 9.6v. Rate of Fire should be perfect on the 9.6. Magazine fits in nice and tight, although I understand why the spacer is a nice part to add; I wouldn't want to force the mags in.. the plastic on the High-Cap (being switched out for mids) doesn't look/feel the strongest (I may be wrong). Selector is nice and crisp. Trigger Guard needs a little filing.. rough edges (half-finger gloves). Cleaning rod is rather loose/wiggles (I 'leaned' the head onto the screw to fix that). When I get the chance, I'll be testing it more, accuracy/range and all.

So far though, I am more than happy with my purchase. (Ordered Thursday night, received this Monday afternoon).


All that said, I would still appreciate a little experience from you guys; especially concerning Magazines. Are there brands I should stay away from? (CYMA was mentioned)..

I've noticed these mags:

Magpul PTS Masada AKM Mags:
http://torontoairsoft.3dcartstores.c...ck_p_1699.html

G&P AK74 150rds [I would really like plum-colored mags]:
http://torontoairsoft.3dcartstores.c...UM_p_1263.html

And last question: do I have any better option of composite/plastic grip? I really want to replace the flimsy-el-cheapo-plastic grip (non-wood grip). I was looking at the bakelite one; but it just looks like more el-cheapo plastic. Maybe another brand? Compatibility?

Mag brand mags worked pretty good in mine.

As for grips I have a King arms one on the way for my FSB build...


http://www.wgcshop.com/WGC_Shop/imag...tg_16bbk_l.jpg

http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/...ip&catid=&cat=

Those Magpul AKM mags are specifically for the Magpul AKM, won't fit into regular AK's from what I understand.

MAG is good.
- Comes in midcap 120rd capacity
- Comes in boxes of 5

LCT is also good
- I've only found these in low 70rd and high cap flavours 450+
- Comes in a rack of 10
- Only issue I have, which I believe is common with most mags, is the last few rounds do not feed in as fast. I tend to drop a few shots at the end of the mag.

I would stay away from CYMA (as stated), unless you like sanding.

I can attest that the plastic grips are a bit cheap. My friend broke his plastic grip when he rested it on the stock and it dropped on the grip. Be mindful of that

I believe my cousin fitted a Huang side rail onto the same AK74MN you have, no word on how sturdy it is. http://airsoftdepot.ca/catalog/produ...products_id=31

MAG is a good option. They work well, and are cheap. As someone mentioned before, the magwell insert helps a lot. Worth the investment.

LCT magazines work flawlessly in LCT guns.

I have LCT magazines for my CYMA AK and they work flawlessly after i sanded them a bit to fit. Obviously it may be different for your AK but from my experience they are great magazines.

The other issue our team noticed was Battery space. There is very little. We scrounged around and found some very small lipos that managed to fit, so keep that in mind, you'll need to look for some batteries.

I'm running the King Arms 11.1v 12c sticks in the top tray no problem.

I have a 9.6v stick type sitting under the tray, and could probably fit a 10.8v quite snug. I'm satisfied with the performance the 9.6v gives me though.

As for mags, I ordered 2 LCT 70-rounder's... they are a REALLY tight fit; while the high-cap simply goes in and out effortlessly, the mid-caps take some pushing. The rear tab is wider, and forces against the mag release hinges. After some use though, enough plastic will be shaved off and the mags will fit smoother. I've been thinking of some sort of RPK setup as well, haven't noticed if LCT have any RPK-74 Long mags.. I noticed this one:
CYMA 200rd RPK Mag
Anyone tried this one out?


Do most of you use the iron sights? or mounted optics?

I've always felt somewhat comfortable using iron sights, so I was debating switching the ones I have to night sights.. or simply painting on some sort of glow-in-the-dark or bright white paint..

AK Express & Big Dot Night Sights
..or..
Tritium Sights
Front Post
Rear 1000m or Rear Peep Sight

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Please let me know how those fit; I really want to switch out the cheap grip for something a little better, even if it's the original style grip, I want a better material/feel.

LCT has a bunch of grips that are beter the the stock one. Like my akm has a cheesy plastic grip but the offer the bakalite (or however you spell it) check their website to see all the stuff they offer.

I have some of those CYMA 200 rounders on the way. I'll update their fitment in a LCT RPK-74M.

I believe the LCT grip feels cheap because it trys to be slimmer then other AEG grips.

I'm not sure where to find some right now but there are lots of surplus east german night sights that are way cheaper then those options.

I have a side rail mounted PKA and plan on picking up a side rail mount picatinny mount to throw a specter on my AK-74M or team mates RPK-74M.

I run the same cyma rpk 47 hi-cap mags with my LCT RPK (47 version) and they feel no problem. I also run a cyma drum mag and it feeds no problem

So far as mag fitment in my LCT 104 goes...

G&P 5.45 mags fit, but are tight. Small bit of shaving that presumably will stop with use. No wobble.
MAG 5.45 mags fit, but are very tight. Little more shaving than the G&Ps. No wobble.
CYMA plastic 7.62x39 ('Bakelite', high-cap) mags fit well, with just a little wobble.
G&G metal 7.62x39 mags (high-caps, at least) fit well, with just a little wobble.
STAR (I think, at least) 5.45 mags fit pretty much perfectly, no shaving or wobble at all.
DBOYs 5.45 mags fit awkwardly, and wobble to the point of being almost laughable.

Let me know asap how that grip you got fits.
I'll get one of these real soon:
SAW Grip for LCT
Tactical Grip for LCT

East German Night Sights - 15$
A few more night sights

I'd love to get my hands on a a PK-A or Kobra!
Kalinka Optics Kobra
Not to mention the German Rakurs.. *drool*

I've read that the side-mount on LCT's are not the same as other brands.. they fit the real stuff or "real" replica's and not airsoft brand replicas. Any word on that?


Very nice info there!

One little thing I "fixed"; LCT's "turn-and-lock" the upper handguard feature didn't really 'lock'. Whenever I pick up the rifle, I'd twist it, then it looked ugly. I "JB-Welded" the clamp part, so now I pick it up, and it's rock-solid, no more twist. I don't plan on changing the upper handguard, so I don't care if it's a permanent fix. I can simply switch out the gase tube anyways, if the need be.

Anyways, here's my AK-74M with an Orange Mag [It's darker in reality]:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8...655f7c22_b.jpg

I have a PK-A and it fits perfect on my LCT.

Most of the mounts are adjustable so you can fiddle with it if its loose or too tight.

I'll update when my damn wgc order finally arrives.

... The handguard lock is a required part of "take down" to get to the gearbox...

The UPPER handguard is completely unrelated to the lower though.

The upper handguard that covers the gas tube could turn to the sides, leaving a big gap on one side, but none on the other, I simply made sure it wouldn't turn anymore. I can still take out the gas tube assembly no problem.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8256/8...1888ae9d_c.jpg