S&T Tavor 21 inquiry
 

Saw a brand new Spartan Imports Tar21 at a local store. Liked the look and did some research on it, but nothing other than first impressions and personal opinions had been documented. I'm interested in this marker over the ARES version mainly due to price, second, weight. The S&T weighs 4.2 lbs while the Ares weighs 7 lbs. I've held the Ares, and the massive rear weight is fairly uncomfortable for a smaller player like me. Plus, I don't have $600 bucks to blow on another marker. The 'better half' would kill me. lol.

Basically, what I want to know is if ANYONE here has first hand experience using it, owns it and if it's worth the price. The store has placed it on hold for me, while I do my research. From what I know thus far, the particular model in question has the poly carbonate gearbox (yes i know they're not the best now a days) but I know there is a metal gear box version for the same price I just need to track one down.

If anyone can tell me anything about it, range, accuracy, feed consistency, ANYTHING that will help me decide yay or nay would help. Thanks.

~Reaver

It's made of shitty thin plastic shell as opposed to ARES' polymer shell. You'll save a bunch of cash initially, but after replacing the gun every time you drop it you're wallet will hurt.

Also, marker.... no...

I agree with what AngelusNex said.

also @AngelusNex not even a sharpie?

Ok, Sharpie or even those new Crayola ones my daughter likes but none other.

Poly carb gearbox is overstating it... And plastic body doesn't ween compare to the area ones. A pretty good comparison would be going to Burger King instead of moxies...

Just a quick jump into this. S&T also makes a 'professional' version which has a metal gearbox, a blowback feature, and a polymer body. I don't know if they're up here yet, but they seem to be in direct competition with ARES version for under 1/2 the price.

I thought that the first versions of the s&t tavor were that plastic and plastic gearbox. Im pretty sure they are polymer and metal gearboxes now... theres a video on youtube i watched a while back comparing it to the ares. For the price it wasnt bad, something like groove marks/ lines in the body... big woop... and i could be mistaken but it was something lile the battery compartment being bigger. I dont know...

When you ask peoples opinions on certain airsoft guns, i would only take the ones into account who've actually owned the gun or gamed it a few times...

ARES internals are made by S&T, at least on their 2011 guns. S&T was engraved on my friend's gear set.

Yeah, ive seen or read that somewhere too but wasnt sure.

I have one of those cheap s&t tavors. They aren't THAT bad damn. Been through many games, dropped, and is gets lipo;) Still in one piece. Its a nice light gun for my girlfriend.

It's a nice 'marker' (and yes, i refer to airsoft guns and paintball guns as 'markers' out of habit) and the seams being raised aren't new to me. The G&G G96 gas sniper rifle had the seams raised and i just sanded them down. Not a big deal. Thanks guys, but I just got an offer for the G&G FN2000 for $400 with a few upgrades in it. So i'll be taking that, since the F2000 is my preferred and favorite rifle. Still, might think about picking it up anyway.... But the one the company has IS the plastic gearbox version...

Airsoft guns are not markers in any way;) Mine has the plastic gearbox. Shoots 380 and is still in one piece.

Like I said, force of habit from paintball. For some reason it feels weird for me to say 'gun' in reference to airsoft when I know it isn't a real firearm. Idk it's just me lol.

A welt is a type of mark... :D

it is a firearm, just an unregulated one

it's a gun.. used for shooting .. let go of your liberal upbringing, violence is not bad, guns are not evil.

you must not act the way you were brought up,

I don't have a political stand point, they're all corrupt and as bad as each other as far as I've seen from how these countries are run. That aside, anything that 'shoots' a projectile is classified a firearm of sorts, that's correct. But because I don't like saying 'gun' for the paintball and airsoft markers, as to me they do not count as a REAL firearm, I say marker. On that note, it pisses me off beyond belief when I hear stories on the radio about some idiot kid being arrested for trying to rob a store using an airsoft gun. I cannot stand the stupidity of people who do paintball drive-by and airsoft robberies. It just ruins the already damaged reputation the sports have, and it's hard enough to go around with your gear without worrying about some jackass cop (no offence to them, they're doing their jobs with protection and whatnot) who breaks a $600 gun because he thinks it's a real gun without allowing you to prove otherwise, or in the case of two of my friends who were simply seen putting the markers in their cars by neighbors and suddenly get pulled over by authorities with their guns drawn. And yes, that actually happened. I don't take chances. Call them what you will, but it's 'markers' to me and they stay in a gun bag or case when they're not in use.

So what I'm getting from this is that you're one of those "our government is bad" people? I hate to be a dick, but please..if you do not like the way this country is run, feel free to move to somewhere you feel like it's being run well. Also if they're markers to you.. then why call it a "gun bag" and not a "marker bag"?

Also, with regard to you calling that cop a "jackass" for breaking a $600 dollar gun, as someone who is going into the law enforcement field I can definitely justify the officer doing so. I'm not going to risk my life just because some kid says "officer its fake". If they have guns drawn, it's for a damn good reason. Its your friends' fault for being stupid and exposing the paintball marker. Don't look for someone else to blame for your mistake.

Do yourself a favour, get used to calling it an airsoft gun.

Back on topic (not really)

When it comes to the TAR-21, choose Israeli:

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relax mate, just poking at you..

agree with below..

if buying real.. buy the real deal made in Israel.

of buying Airsoft, Aries is the way to go..

Lol I doubt a cop would attempt to break a real steel rifle

If he thought it was real, he'd be asking for your PAL or arresting you