boogie regulator defog ideas
 

so i got some asian fit boogie regulator (by smith optic) and so far i kind of like what it has to offer, the only problem is that it only defogs when i move around. are there options or mods where the goggle will still defog even though im not doing some sort of high active movement? (for example lying down in a hot ghillie suit).


recommendations would be much appreciated

There was a discussion about this...lemme see if I can find it

Edit: http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread....boogie+fogging

If there is foam over the vents remove it.
Fogtech (they will get moisture build up but less fog)
Fans.

indeed, hmm i was thinking of theres any way to cut foam or something

Can't use a fan on them, much too small.

Only thing that worked for my was some C-Clear, and only for a little while. Personally I gave up on mine and purchased the Smith Optics OTWs with the built in turbo fan. $160, but worth every penny. I NEVER fog. Plus the fan has a high and low setting and turns off automatically after four hours. Uses two AAAs and lasts up to ten hours on the low setting.

Get'em.

well it seems this might be a problem with fogging, but what other low pro goggle systems will stopfogging?

maybe the exoshield from revision?

The otw's, ess with fans. Im sure there are others with fans as well.
Not sure how low pro the regulators are but the ess profile are prety low pro and tho the fans dont fit well (they stick like half way out the front) i was still able to get em on there. Took em off tho as the sound is annoying lol.

Make sure you get one that fits you too ;)
They have Asian fits for us..Asians..

I cut foam around the goggles out from the top and bottom hoping to give a better airflow, however to no avail. Ended up picking up some anti fog spray from sportchek, seems to work

Definitely not. The exoshields are boogies without ventilation. I myself was torn between the two and in speaking with Revision they told me that they aren't meant to be worn during vigorous physical activity and even quoted that for airsoft they are not a good option. If you will be doing night ops and using NVGs/NODs (what have you) then the boogies are your best bet, but don't go running around too much and make sure you aren't over bound with gear and clothing that will make you sweat.

Ultimately ESS, Revision, and Smith Optics "low pro" full seal goggles with the turbofan are the best for normal gameplay, thus why I don't use my boogies anymore (as I have many other things I would like to get before taking the PVS-14 dive). You can also try some GO Specs, but they do fog a tad as well.

I will note that someone at OP Honda Civic in March was telling me he used anti fog spray made for scuba goggles. I don't know if there is a different between that and stuff like fog tech however he was using boogies all night and had no problems fogging wise what so ever.

^That spray is essentially dish soap, slightly different, but that's really all it is. It does work. The big thing with all of this fog repellent is instead of fogging you get water beads that roll down your lens. It actually is much easier to see than the fog, but can get annoying. Pick your poison I guess.

Any idea if the Smith OTW are asian fit? Who carries these in Canada?

https://www.sealsactiongear.com/cata...idProduct=1660

They have the fan ones too, these are MC though!

Fit doesn't sound Asian.

OTW fan versions do not come in Asian fit yet (I checked). They do have the non-fan version in Asian-fit https://www.buyairsoft.ca/accessorie...asian-fit.html . I can also confirm that unless stated otherwise OTW's (regular and fan) are not Asian fit.

Tacticalproductscanada.com carries a lot of Smith Optics stuff

With regards to the OP, I tried drilling the vent holes bigger and cutting the foam to exhaust more air. Also applied Fogtech, in humid days it will fog. Nice profile, but I still haven't solved the fogging issue quite yet.

Its not really advisable to modify the lens itself in any way as even with boring the holes larger you weaken the overall strength of the lens. Just sayin'.

I rigged up a 7.4 nunchuck battery with 2 fans to my ESS....that is the way to go, and I can assure you, no way you will run out of power.

The cord is an old charge cord from a cell phone.

Some heat shring tubing, some solder, zip ties and boom.... you have AC

^Yeah, but I can hear you laying in the grass with those things on. :-P

Sounds a bit too nooblord'esq for most people to hack about with

....I am cool and dry as you poke fun......

Then you must have heard me pulling the trigger when I shot you with my pistol too. Laying in the grass.

Cause I could see your hand go up clear as a bell when you called hit. Sans fog.

bahahaha.

Lol I didn't hear you, I saw you. That was a strategic decision. You had less cover than my victim. You did get mercied.. :-P

Face it. My fans confused you.


You are jealous. You saw how ridiculously comfy I was, with my crystal clear vision, and did not know what to do.

You were looking at me through your sweaty goggles and could not see the target till the high polished bb was on the way.....

There is a reason I wear my paintball JT elite with a thermal lens (has to be dual pane thermal not the single pane it originally comes with), even when paintball googles are not required, they never fog ever. It is better to be able to see than look cool ;)

Boogie regulators were always meant to be used in high movement/wind environment where air circulates through the front holes (Para jump, open hatch, motorcycle ride, etc.) Without that you are going to have problems, it appears they were not meant or designed to be wear all day protection.

I have found that removing some of the closed cell foam around the edges of the lens so as to have one hole about 2 cm wide on each side above and below allows enough air into the lens to prevent fogging.

I don't understand how the dual pane will take care of the fogging. Is the fog (Condensation) created by the heat and steam coming off your face forming on the inside of the lenses?

Does the second pane somehow effect the temp variance messing with the dew point?

Thermal lenses create "dead" air space that moderates the air temperature differences between one face of the lense and the other. For a single pane, as the lense chills from the external side the interior side cools the same and water in the humid vapour between your face and the lense condenses/collects on the lense creating the fog. With a thermal lense the dead air space allows for a more moderate temperature difference between the inside/outside faces of the interior lense...and hopefully with enough ventilation...fogging is avoided. It doesn't change physics...it just delays/suppresses the environmental conditions.

If the gas between the lenses was "dry" and inert (like a window for a house) then regardless of how hot the interior lense was vs. how cold the exterior lense was you would prevent the build up of fogging.

Re. water vapour from eyes/face/skin...that's still being expirated and thermal lenses don't change that...but keeping the lense temperature difference close enough is the key.

In the end it comes down to ventilation. Airflow is everything. If you stand around long enough so you cool down and allow your skin to dry off...then you're likely to fog very little. If you run around like crazy in humid weather and then drop down in the shade and drape a shemagh over your head/lenses to cut off airflow then no amounts of fans/anti-fog/etc...will prevent fogging. Obviously those are ideals to make a point and not practical in game play.

And...some weirdo bastards never seem to sweat enough from their eyes/face to fog regardless of what they're using.

I hate those guys! Usually one of the reasons why I need to flip to full auto to try and keep up with them on the run.

The eye foam is also sealed and thin and does not absorb water causing condensation like other JT goggles. The sweat just drips down the face instead of staying in the goggle zone. The elites are also lower profile but only 180 degree view. If it was really humid you can add a fan but I have not used one in the last 5 years.

Also it helps to wear a bandanna and have a bald head for ventilation ;)

going to try using this on my glasses and see how it works out. works great on my car windshield.

http://www.rainx.com/product/glass-a.../#.UdZeCvk3uSo

Check out airsoft medicine's review on The boogies. He paired it with like a fish tank cleaning sort of device, you can safely wipe without actually taking them off

Seeing as I don't use my boogies anymore, I am going to play around with creating some slots in the foam for ventilation to see what the results are.

I did this. I cut triangle shapes in the foam (4 of them, 2 on top and 2 on the bottom) reason behind that was so that when I wear the goggles the two points close together with no gap from the cutout portions.

However that didn't solve my fogging so I just opted in getting anti fog spray and whips. Worked fine for the 26+ hours I wore them for all of nightfall 2, only had to apply more of the spray 3/4s into the game (basically before night fell).

I have been wanting to try Seagold Anti fog gel though made for scuba masks. I've seen quite a few good reviews on the product and it's only $10-$15, I plan on getting some but I don't know when that will be do to sheer laziness.

EDIT: Nvm not so lazy bought a bottle of sea gold off amazon for $9 shipped. Will be able to test it out next weekend so I will update if I remember.

Read the instructions before you put that on plastic based googles, this scuba anti fog is meant for glass lenses and may eat your googles, just a heads up ;)

anyone try a product called "cat crap" in boogie regulators? I use them for other lenses and have no fogging problems.

No, but I have used C-Clear and FogTech with mixed results every time.

Thanks for the heads up haha never thought about that till now, but looks like I should be good, atleast according to the website.

"It’s safe for glass and plastic lenses, and won’t harm silicone or rubber mask frames."

I might want to avoid the foam on the lense though.