APS Tactical AK47
 

I am thinking of getting this to complete my AK build and i would like to know if the externals are good. Its the newer and i heard that the new Hybrid Gearbox is great, but yet there last model before that was just shitty. Also i would like to know if theres property parts then just the spring guide. Since I'll be putting some TM compatible parts in it. Here's a link http://www.torontoairsoft.com/APS-AK...dy_p_3287.html

APS is generally pretty poor quality. People know APS as a certain abbreviation...

Are you talking about there past products or did you have recent experience, because according to people they really improved from there past and there good guns. I want to know how they are now not 3-5 years ago.

Here's a review of just how great APS rifles are: http://www.red-alliance.net/forum/in...?topic=17071.0

After reading that, you'd have to be crazy to buy one of these rifles...

Well why don't you take one for the team, I had a APS gun once, never again.

It wasn't THAT bad, I mean, it did kind of survive the Spetsnaz roll you did when you tripped...

That's cause I had a CYMA stock catch, and mechbox. APS stock catch actually broke at home leaving my stock unable to be locked in the unfolded position.


The receiver trunion fractured from the landing and now the stock is super wobbly. The Steel is thin as hell and is easily dented bent. Mechbox was a P.O.S that I just tossed out.

Its good at throwing at people rofl...

Seriously, Styrak said everyone should know it's true abbreviation. I work countless of APS older generation and I would not give their second or whatever generation even a try.

They only came out a couple years ago...

If you talk to PEOPLE who tell you they really improved and are good guns... go ahead and buy .... Another piece of Shit

I see what you're saying but i looked in it a little and the gun was better then it was before, when the were just pure shit and gived them to javelin. Since then they there getting better. I wanted to know if it is worth it to get one up to date. I am aware that they have been in the airsoft market for about 3-4 years, but the new Hybrid gearbox is quite new and by the looks of it, its solid. Am not looking for a review in 2010-2011, i know they were crap. Am looking for a up to date review.

Okay, let me rephrase.

You either follow what people here are answering you.

Or you don't ask the question, and do whatever the f*** you want.

Get a cyma if you want a cheap AK.
If you want to run a shitty AK, why should I care?

Good God, they're awful. Please listen to these nice men and avoid at all costs.

The rolled steel AK bodies are almost totally sweet except that all of the buttons, switches, clasps, screws, rivets and thingamajigs are absolute garbage.
This is before we even get into the awful (though pretty) internals and the cursed wiring which likes to develop ghosts for no goddamn reason. QC from the factory is terrible. The wood kits are sometimes beautiful.

I even tried to un-fuck one once. I thought "Naaah, they can't possibly be that bad plus I know what I'm doing!". Well, I did but I didn't. I built a great gearbox from the ground-up that ran like stink, but the rest of the gun literally fell apart in my hands over the course of a few re-assemblies and a handful of games.

TL/DR:
Really expensive wall hangers, can't be trusted like cheating spouse, impossible to get rid of like herpes
Seriously dude buy a CYMA.

Edit:
I've seen more recent lines and run inspection for an employer. They're still awful. The demo guns sent out by APS as promotional material to say "Sorry for all of that money you lost on our last product lineup" were lemons and failed out-of-box or shortly after. The problem isn't with their engineering or lineup, it's that their tooling, and materials composition in particular. There are better companies to share your money with.

APS
A
PIECE of
SHIT

cheap yes but honestly for the same price Lancer Tactical and CYMA are hell of alot better.

but it seems like you've made up your mind and want to buy it so go ahead, just dont come back with a thread saying HELP ME FIX MY BROKEN GUN

Here's your answer, since you can't seem to figure it out:

NO. You should not get one.

Ok thanks Styrak for the insulting post, but i was only seeing for a recent review and playing the devils avocate to really see if they did improved or not really. Even so i already told you that i know that they are crap. Either then that in the end i got what i was looking and Thanks.

Don't know how my post was insulting, but OK.

Well I saw it as if you were calling me an idiot by saying ( since you didn't get it the first time).

My fav would be "Absolute Pieces of Shit"

I have worked on a few of the APS AK rifles and found them to be very poorly built both externally and internally. Best save your money and purchase another brand of AK. There was also a comment from PocoMilitary's store here in Langley that had sold them a few years ago when they first came out and ALL of them came back with in one week for repairs or refunds.

It seems like MrAirsoft194 is sold on APS's "new" guns, so buy it and let us know how it is.

Having seen both old and new.

No.

Please, no. Don't tell yourself "there is always an exception"

No.

You know as soon as someone puts up a thread like this and invests this much emotion into something they say they haven't bought yet I wonder how many times it's turned out there was a purchase made prior to the fact checking.

Devil's Advocate; ha ha.

Ok I am not sold or buying it at all. I am really buying a LCT now. I was only looking for a body to build on and then i saw the APS. It seemed to be a cheapskate almost all the features i wanted it to have, but for the price it had to be to good to be true. So i did a bit of reaserch on it and found out that they are are shit, but some said there newer design is better. So i wanted to ask you guys to clear things out, if its true or not. Not only did i get the answer to what i was looking, but got hated for asking so. Sorry if i didn't know.

You didn't get hated for just asking.

When you start making excuses as to justify the purchase (After having many people telling you to do otherwise) You'll end up pissing off a few people.

Its a common thing for people to ask about (Insert cheap POS gun here), ask whether they should buy it or not. And despite being told not to, they buy it anyway and come back to bitch about it not working.

Its annoying as hell.

i could understand what you mean, but i have to say its not the warmest welcome.

Wow that sounds exciting... Who doesn't want busting some ghosts developed from airsoft guns. Would you mind to tell the full story about the wires? Thanks.

Every time staff pulled the dust covers off we'd get slimed.

Seriously though, the type of wire being used was of a poor quality and/ or a poor choice for the application as it was too rigid and brittle generally, plus the shielding was terrible (consistency closer to that of wax than rubber or plastic shielding).
Combine these factors with generally poor soldering and high-resistance contacts (again, poorly selected materials for the application), what you get is an electrical system full of existing and potential flaws that only worsen the more that the system is handled.

You end up with shorts, spikes, and breaks in the line which aren't immediately apparent and aren't even findable through visual inspection. Thus you end up chasing the whole line with a multimeter and having things work fine on the bench and then poop out in the body and vice-versa, ergo chasing 'ghosts' or 'ghosting'.

Many of the guns we worked on (mostly warranty, eugh) did this, and eventually after wasting so many man hours trying to save and repair these systems, the employer decided that the best course of action was to gut APS electrical systems and replace entirely whenever the wiring was in question, scrap it, and go through the leftovers during downtime to see if any of it could be reclaimed for rentals.

Thanks for the story... I will stop complaining about my PVC wires not being silicone wires from now on...