Who's got a HSGI Suregrip? Sizing & other questions.
 

Hey so I just picked up a HSGI Suregrip/cobra setup direct from HSGI but I have a feeling it might be a tad too small...

I ordered the 30.5" Suregrip and the medium belt and I've got about 6-7 inches of space between the belt. Now I did gain some weight (planning to hit the gym again ASAP) and I think I've got a 32-33" waist at the moment (AKA, I got lazy and fat... lol) but I'm aiming to get back to a slim 28-30". If I get back into shape I'm thinking the belt will fit pretty well as its just a tad tight at the moment over a t-shirt.

I'm thinking about sending the belt back to them to exchange one size up as they sent ALL of my TACO's in the wrong colour after I clearly specified what colour I wanted everything to be in so I'll be trying to get someone at HSGI to fix that... but either way I'll be sending something back to them.

Anyone else run a Suregrip with a waist size around 30-32"? What size belt did you get and how does it fit? The next size up is the Large Cobra belt and the 35.5" Suregrip but I'm not sure how much space there would be between the belt on a 30" waist so I'm a little wary about going up a size. Would like to get around a 2" space between the belt.

Also, how high/low do you guys wear your belts? I've tried slightly above the hips and the holster position I have for my secondary feels too high, on/slightly below hips feels ok but I think I'd need a larger belt for that...

One last thing, is it just me or is the 30.5" Suregrip sorta lacking in real estate? I can fit two pistol taco's, one rifle taco, a dump pouch and a holster on a molle adapter but if I wanted to put on a bleeder/misc pouch I'm kinda short on space...

Thanks for the help guys!

Beta678

I just spent a ton on my HSGI setup, courtesy of DSTactical :) <3

I was 32-34 before, slimmed down to 28, now I'm about 28-29, depends on the styling of the pants, can go up to 30.

I got the smallest one, 30.5 - Right off the bat I 'll tell you, if you want more molle space, go ahead and return it for a medium. My buddy runs a Medium, but I haven't compared how much more space he has. If Iwas to run the medium I think the molle part would be to much, and cover my belt buckle, lol.

My first order I had just got the inner belt, but then I opted out on my second order for the cobra 1.75.

Mine sits above my hip bone, it feels weird at first, and you don't know if it's supposed to be super tight or what not. I had this issue at first, but after a game, I got it all comfortable and it worked very well.

I would suggest wearing what you'd wear (BDU) place on your vest and what not, and then putting the belt on, and adjusting it based on your walking/running/couching/proning exercises to see how you like it.

Now you mention it.. I should really install my mag-net and fourth taco @_@ #lazy#hatemaliceclips

Pistol tacos are waste of space imo. You should of got the 1+1 or 2+1 (Rifle+pistol), I think you can attach the pistol to your rifle taco easily though. I run all X2R's. Bleeder/Holster could be mounted on your 6094, or vest if you use one. You just need to play around with your setup.


Edit:

Dat beer gut

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/zqDf0Ze1dmg/maxresdefault.jpg

Well... facepalm... I'm a 13 minute drive from DSTactical... Guess I'll drop by and check out some gear (need more GEARZ!) and maybe try on the Medium Suregrip for sizing.

I surprisingly, still haven't picked up any BDU's yet... I'll see how the belt fits over a hardshell and maybe adjust the inner belt sizing for that, although I'm sorta on the end of the velcro adjustment... SO MUCH FATS...

Hows the Mag Net pouch? I was sorta reluctant to get one since I thought the netting would catch on stuff (and it's kinda big) so I picked up a TT FL roll up dump pouch and cheapie condor roll up. Loving the Tactical tailor dump pouch but sadly they don't make it in highlander... though am tempted to just change it all back to Multicam and call it a day... Kryptek gear is starting to get annoying to find...

Sorta agree about the pistol pouches but I don't really want to run the 1+1 rifle & pistol (not sure why), might swap the single rifle for a double taco and run 3 taco's on a Banshee for a 5+2 & loaded rifle & pistol setup for a total of 6&3 mag capacity.

PS. LOL You hit it on the mark for the beer gut... 6 months in Manhatten living a block away from a super market with a Beer World that had $11.99 choose your own 6 pack beer deal with beer from around the world makes any skinny asian fat in no time...

haha, yeah man, U.S > Canada for pricing on ale, shizzz.

-_- If you live that close you shoulda just got it from them, they coulda hooked you up really nicely.

If you go just talk to Ali, he's the best ^^ b. Hmm, I picked up a Condor dump pouch (selling it in the classified) and then before I opened it, I was like, well since i'm ordering stuff again, i'll just toss it in.

I'll maybe do a youtube review on it or something. So far looks good, haven't really touched it, or anything. Just been sitting in my gear bag. From the looks of it - yes it looks like it could get caught, but i think you PC/Vest would get caught first before that. The thing I like from it, is the hole you can dump your mags in + you can fit a ton of pmags in there. That, and well, dirt and bbs can just drop out of the holes easily. It folds also, quite nicely, mesh is made out of very nice materialssss. I'll get around to it this week, cleaning my basement /rant.

Check it out when you go to DSTactical, they should have those in stock still. I bought out their OD X2R's though, sorry!

ps. hsgi has kryptek stuff, if that's what you want. Ontario here is mainly woodland/forestry, so i opted out of tan gear now, and into greenish stuffs.

:3

ps You should be able to mount the pistol onto the existing rifle taco if you want.

Oh lol, yeah I definitely should've but HSGI had a 15% off sale on FB and they were the only ones with the belt in highlander so I went and ordered it from them at the time. Would've preferred mandrake as its pretty green over here as well but the cool factor drew me in lol.

Definitely will take a look at the Mag-Net at DSTactical, also might just get HSGI to switch my belt from highlander and keep the MC taco's if I see and like the Suregrip in Multicam at DSTactical though.

Just received my Suregrip/Cobra belts from DS last week too
I'm wearing 29-30 pants normally so I got the Small Suregrip, Medium Cobra

I too am thinking it might be a tad bit small, with at least 4-5 inches gap, as I was expecting the end to almost touch

I guess it all depends on how you decide to wear it. I was initially thinking of wearing it on the hips, but might put it a bit higher just over the hips to better support weight.

I think I'm just going to keep those to save on the shipping/waiting hassle anyways

Still trying to figuring out how to setup my pouches and all.

On a side note, I wanted to put my G-Code holster (G18) on the belt but find it to be a bit high and interfering with my carrier that is already high (FirstSpear Strandhogg). Do any of you guys put your pistol directly on the belt? I'm going to have the same issue with long mags I guess ... :/

I have my serpa on the condor belt... I have a feeling I might move it back to my leg, sometimes it's a bit hard to find on the belt line or my chest rig keeps bumping it/doesn't have enough clearance. I'll have to run it more as it's a fairly new setup for me.

It might also be because I have a rather lumpy side pocket on the chest rig rig above the pistol, ymmv.

I was strongly considering changing out the condor belt with a suregrip or something better, the g2 battle belt from condor leaves something to be desired.

Yeah, I was hoping for a 1-2" gap with the buckle centered in the gap like in all the photos you see when you google "HSGI battlebelt"...

For me, I've been planning to setup my belt with 2 pistol tacos (10-11 clock position) followed by a rifle taco on the left (9 O'clock) , dump pouch center back/slightly to left (6 O'clock) , and my serpa holster on the right (2:30-3 O'clock). With the belt being a lil'smaller than expected I might have to shift things around bit but that's the general layout planned at the moment, less a misc/bleeder pouch that I'd like to put between the holster and dump pouch if I had space.

Layout would be something similar to the OUB belt in this pic:

http://37.media.tumblr.com/dbf906b2c...3r9o1_1280.jpg

Maybe run a drop plate/mount for your holster similar to the one in the pic if the belt position is too high?

my only recommendation with pistol tacos is that you avoid putting them on the front, bending over seems to push the mag out of the taco, even if you have it tightly adjusted. This seems to get worse with the more gut you have. Though this might be avoided if your belt platform is rigid enough, the condor one is not. I think the hsgi is a lot more rigid but since it's a belt and it's wide, it will probably eventually end up bending and working in a bend line in the material.

I have a 31-32" waist with a 35" hip. I ordered the 35.5" Suregrip belt and have about 3-4" of space between the ends when buckled up. I also purchased the large cobra belt for it. It fits excellently on me.

You might want to get the larger size if you're about my dimensions.

ive got a suregrip as well, ordered the belt they recommended for my waist. it SEEMS like its a size small but realistically you dont want pouches on your waist, you want them more to the side. so it does its job well, it only looks small.

yes the rifle tacos are much more robust. If you look at the way the shock cord is run through a pistol taco vs a rifle, you can see that if you push the bottom of the taco and bent it in half the top half of the front flap will come open a bit when you lever against it from the back(such as bending over). The push from the bottom will just nudge it up far enough that a mag can be pushed/fall out.

The best way to avoid it is to not mount the pistol taco anywhere that will bend or have pressure from below/behind applied. If the mag sat deeper it probably wouldn't happen.

Or I just need to lose weight.

Minor update, just came back from DSTactical and its like a candy store full of gear!

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1ee3b8d2.jpg

So many pouches, rigs, and possibilities... if only I weren't running 5.45 AK mags...

Anyways, they had a bunch of Suregrips there and I tried out the 35.5" belt with a inner duty belt and I had a 1-2" space between the ends (Suregrip went over a shirt, belt, and jeans, so take that into account) so that pretty much means its too big as the ends would overlap once I start exercising and drop the inches. So that pretty much means the 30.5" Suregrip and Medium belt fits fine for ~30" waists. Science.

BELTS!
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...psd2067bc0.jpg

I was also told that most manufacturers seem to be dropping and discontinuing Kryptek by of the employees I spoke to. Am seriously considering exchanging my highlander belt to MC now... despite its coolness factor.

So tempted to just pick up another Suregrip in MC and some HL pouches instead... Oh and disregard my foot, my Iphone seems to have weird cropping issues...
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...psa1c9bfe9.jpg

Solution for sizing issue... start running. lol.

Got pre-occupied with taking photos of my gun and cleaning today.

Will try to get some later on when I set everything up.

DSTACTICAL looks packed! Sweet :3 So better lose weight son.

So I called up HSGI and they're sending me a return label for the TACO's and sending me the correct ones once they get the MC ones back. Not fond of waiting but not much I can do about it, at least customer service was nice, sorta. Think I'll grab my next belt from DSTactical since they're so close and hassle free. PS they have a sale coming up on May 10th apparently.

HSGI's just released extended mag TACO's, might help with your long mag problem.

http://www.highspeedgear.com/hsgi/ex-ptaco-11EX00.html

VECTOR TACOS!!! FINALLY
been waiting for those for a while

still don't fit p90 :/

Holy shit that's great

Thanks for your feedback and comments guys

Could give the extended rifle magazine TACO's a try when they release them, which should be soon since they released the pistol variant already.

Dimensions: 3”H x 1.2”W x 5”L
http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-c...I-HCM-TACO.jpg
I believe that's a saiga 12 magazine stuffed in there, not sure.

http://soldiersystems.net/2014/05/01...-capacity-mag/

well the p90 mags fit in the standard rifle tacos, they just look funny. The problem with getting new tacos is that my other mags won't fit in the long tacos.. kinda defeats the purpose of universal pouches that aren't so universal. lol.

Working on a solution to make them look not so narsty in the standard tacos.

Picked up an HSGI Duty belt in Large thinking I could use it on the Suregrip while I slim down a bit and its too big........ even after messing with the velcro adjustment...

The medium cobra is a little small and the large duty belt gives me waaaaaaaay too much slack... I have no idea what's going on with their belt sizing anymore.

Is there a sizing difference between the two belts or am I just plain screwed for sizing?? Am confused as hell right now.

That's strange. I'm a 30" waist (maybe even 29), I have a small sure grip with a small standard plastic buckle inner belt (duty belt?). They fit me perfectly, I can even make the inner larger. I can't see how a medium would be too small for you..? Must be serious sizing differences between cobra and duty belts...

Yeah, definitely strange. Even with the large belt adjusted to the smallest it can go I still have enough room to wear a parka under it comfortably... I'll take the large duty belt back and swap it for a medium and see if that fits. If it does then the duty belts and cobra belts are definitely not sized similarly...

Well I noticed I have a lot more room to play with on the medium Cobra on my small sure-grip.

My cobra doesn't have the inner velcro which makes the sure grip not super rock solid like the duty did, but I love the cobra :3

Well, a bit of an update. I finally got my Taco's in and spent the last 20 minutes or so installing them and they're a b**** to get on.

Anyways, let me know what you think.

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...psc6ff2aac.jpg

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3a1619a0.jpg

So far, I'm digging this belt & setup. Weight distribution is not bad and it sits slightly above the waist, pretty comfortably. I might add a pouch or something behind the holster just to balance it out though. Didn't manage to get a duty belt in medium as DSTactical didn't have any in CB so I'm stuck with the Cobra for now but I'm thinking the duty belt would be better suited for use with single point slings as the cobra & D-ring can scratch and mar up a receiver quite a bit when its hanging from your sling (saw a thread about it on AR15 forums).

The one thing I'd change is the condor dump pouch, as it's a bit on the small side. Might replace it with a Tactical Tailor Fight Light Roll-up dump pouch in CB, but if anyone knows where I can find a nice Highlander dump pouch, let me know. I'm not a fan of the HSGI net dump pouch and the only HL pouch I found (that I like) is made by Tiger Tailor... in France... :(

yeah.. fuck malice clips. But once they're on.. they're ON.

Just finally ordered my sure grip : stoked for it to show up.

To the guy who was asking about what to do with his pistol riding high : I'm sure you figured it out by now but if now, I've been rocking a Gcode duty mount with my Gcode glock 17 holster and it is nice to get it down that few inches. Higher than a drop mount, lower than belt mount (I have a belt and a drop mount as well as the duty mount to compare all three)

Very happy with the duty mount.


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Sorry for the necro but can anyone identify the molle mount for the serpa holster? I have the Blackhawk STRIKE molle platform but it takes up too much molle space on the small sized belt.

Look like a blade tech molle mount, apparently the patterns are interchangeable

https://overhoppers.files.wordpress....8/dsc_8327.jpg

and here I wasted all that money on a whole new blade tech holster -_-

Thanks! I was disappointed when I realized how little molle space I had left after I mounted the STRIKE platform.

WELL FUCK ME SIDEWAYS
it does fit.
I feel really stupid for buying a whole other bladetech holster now -_-

hmm... might have to get me one.

Son of a bitch! and to think I thought I was the only person with this problem... I guess I'll be getting one too :cool:

I've got a g-code mount on my suregrip. Can swap between my g17 and m9 serpas in seconds. So good.

TC you have that blade tech teklok on the serpa on a battle belt or duty belt? got any pics of the mount? I didn't think the serpa screws were on a standard grid.

Here is a picture of the serpa mounted on the tek lok. The holes match perfectly.

http://rs1119.pbsrc.com/albums/k634/...d3.jpg~320x480

I' got mine hooked up to the duty belt inside the battle belt now

got mine in this week, do you find the mount a bit wobbly at all? mine feels loose vs the strike platform which made it pretty solid.