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Syn October 15th, 2005 23:14

Airsoft Tactics for Noobs
 
Pretty good selection of tactics for newbies such as myself. Hope it helps other too.

http://www.21stcenturyairsoft.com/forum/forum-28.html



this was my fav
edit: fixed link http://www.21stcenturyairsoft.com/forum/about383.html

yanhchan October 15th, 2005 23:48

Thanks I needed that...i mean i'm no noob...erase erase....***claws madly at computer***

ouyin2000 October 16th, 2005 00:10

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Originally Posted by yanhchan
Thanks I needed that...i mean i'm no noob...erase erase....***claws madly at computer***

Just put some white out on it

Dozer_01 October 16th, 2005 01:22

I have a good pointer. Dont play is a speedo and run around blowing a whistle.

Dozer_01 October 16th, 2005 01:22

I have a good pointer. Dont play in a speedo and run around blowing a whistle.

Brakoo October 16th, 2005 01:41

Is it just an impression I'm getting or most of those posts are either pretty useless or taken direcly from other sources ? I love those people who don't use any punctuation at all, those 100 words sentences are the best.

demco11 October 16th, 2005 02:00

wow, I dident know there was like 5 different crouching positions, and there is a special tactict in breathing now too? For noobs just stick to what works best for them, spray and pray.

Fulcrum77 October 16th, 2005 02:29

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Originally Posted by demco11
wow, I dident know there was like 5 different crouching positions, and there is a special tactict in breathing now too? For noobs just stick to what works best for them, spray and pray.


Actually, yes. Breathing Control

Bandit October 16th, 2005 02:44

I have a powerpoint file on US Army MOUT procedures for clearing rooms etc, as well as a few small videos on the same subject if anyone is willing to host. The Powerpoint is particularly informative. It is also 101 slides long. :D

demco11 October 16th, 2005 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fulcrum77
Quote:

Originally Posted by demco11
wow, I dident know there was like 5 different crouching positions, and there is a special tactict in breathing now too? For noobs just stick to what works best for them, spray and pray.


Actually, yes. Breathing Control

Yeah, I knew that... :-|

firemachine69 October 16th, 2005 03:11

Don't get shot.

OTTAWAlonewolf October 16th, 2005 03:22

oh ! Sniper !! ( reading the sniper chapter )

those Snipers ! got a shot on my ass once !!

Syn October 16th, 2005 10:28

On a related note, this was good info for noob (me) pistol training.

http://www.targetshooting.ca/docs/pistol_sighting.pdf
http://www.targetshooting.ca/docs/Pi...t_Analysis.pdf
http://www.targetshooting.ca/docs/grp-analysis.pdf
http://www.targetshooting.ca/docs/shooting_faults.pdf


and the army pistol training book (save as)
http://www.giwera.pl/pliki/pmtg.pdf

Also i found tons of articles by expert target shooter, and a few nice printable targets all using google.

tip: some articles (about real gun practice) say to dry fire the gun.
DO NOT dry fire airsoft it will ruin your gun over time.

Syn October 16th, 2005 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit
I have a powerpoint file on US Army MOUT procedures for clearing rooms etc, as well as a few small videos on the same subject if anyone is willing to host. The Powerpoint is particularly informative. It is also 101 slides long. :D


cool, how big are the files? .ppt file sounds interesting.

there are free online sites for hosting
http://www.putfile.com/
http://rapidshare.de/
http://www.megaupload.com

etc

CDN_Stalker October 16th, 2005 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fulcrum77
Quote:

Originally Posted by demco11
wow, I dident know there was like 5 different crouching positions, and there is a special tactict in breathing now too? For noobs just stick to what works best for them, spray and pray.


Actually, yes. Breathing Control

Best is to shoot in between breath cycles, in between the exhale and the next inhale. My dad tried to teach me the let half out, hold it and shoot, and that I always found to be hard, so I learned the inbetween and it worked better. Then recently I found out that most shooting clinics in the US for real steel, inlcuding long range shooting, teach this method as well, as there is less to focus on when making your shot, and squeezing the trigger while you are most relaxed is best. Same as trying to keep the non-dominant eye closed while looking through the scope, it gets tiring and after a bit (or, if like me, anytime it's done) is another thing to focus on doing, keeping that eye from opening. Luckily I can keep both eyes wide open when looking through a scope of any power and mentally shut the images from my left eye off to about 10%, so I can still have full peripheral vision and movement spotting with both eyes while shooting.

DanQuayle October 16th, 2005 13:01

There are three things noobs need to know for airsoft.
1. Know who is on your team, and shoot everyone else without hesitation.
2. If you think someone sees you or someone's out there, they are, and hit the deck.
3. Sitting in your backyard and taking 30 seconds to line up your shots does nothing for in-game accuracy. Put cans at various angles from a tree, and then pop in and out hitting the cans as effeiciently as possible.

Syn October 16th, 2005 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanQuayle
There are three things noobs need to know for airsoft.
1. Know who is on your team, and shoot everyone else without hesitation.
2. If you think someone sees you or someone's out there, they are, and hit the deck.
3. Sitting in your backyard and taking 30 seconds to line up your shots does nothing for in-game accuracy. Put cans at various angles from a tree, and then pop in and out hitting the cans as effeiciently as possible.


point #3 is spot on

another tip:

If you don't have strong legs (gotta build my leg muscles for CQC). Spend a few minutes sprinting less than 5 meters from tree to tree and crouch, when you are out jogging or better yet when you are out doing interval runs. Of course i run through forested areas on my jogs so it does not look suspicious. :)

kymoz October 16th, 2005 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanQuayle
3. Sitting in your backyard and taking 30 seconds to line up your shots does nothing for in-game accuracy. Put cans at various angles from a tree, and then pop in and out hitting the cans as effeiciently as possible.

I strongly discourage this practice (not the "spot on" exercise). Shooting in your backyard is no good idea, unless if you live in country with your closest neighbour at 10km. Only one complaint to the police from a neighbour and your dead meat. And if you were unfortunate enough to blow up a kid's eye by accident with a BB, you would spent the rest of your life paying for this accident, added with eternal remorse of what you did to that kid.

Those are the risks you are taking. Now, think.

Kymoz

Syn October 16th, 2005 14:27

Of cousre you would never do this in your backyard downtown, that would ruin the sports reputation and land your butt in jail.

But the target acquisition practice I think is great for CQC at the allowable sites (range with permission, private land well away from people ).

The message i understood was: quick target attainment-shoot-hide is a great way to practice versus noob relaxed plinking.



I want to try aim-2shots-hide, next time i practice spot on
versus my noob method: shot and aim continuously.

Drake October 16th, 2005 14:55

Only three tactics n00bs need to know, and that's:

1- don't blue on blue noone
2- keep quiet and keep your head down
3- don't get dead


pretty much in that order.

you master those three, you're on your way to becoming a good player

Syn October 16th, 2005 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake
1- don't blue on blue noone

huh? you mean TK?


Yeah I started the thread to discuss the details of how not to "get dead".

JohnnyDo October 16th, 2005 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit
I have a powerpoint file on US Army MOUT procedures for clearing rooms etc, as well as a few small videos on the same subject if anyone is willing to host. The Powerpoint is particularly informative. It is also 101 slides long. :D


could you e-mail it to me ?? j-cronk@writeme.com

yanhchan October 16th, 2005 15:26

i practiced getting the Pistol out of the hip hoster and as I drew it up I pulled back the slide...I ended up slipping and throwing my pistol halfway across the room...but a few attempts later I am successful at doing it and immidately hit a target (a sheet of paper) from 10 Ft away.

Man Solo October 16th, 2005 23:46

when ever you get to cover always pick your next bunker. Never get into a spot that you don't have an imediate escape from. If someone is shooting at you and you are afraid of being pinned down, pop out and squeeze off a 5-10 round full auto burst. pop back in and count to 2. Then run to your next spot. by the time you get there they should be thinking about taking another shot at you. Only, wait, where did you go? Oh shit they are out.

Brian McIlmoyle October 18th, 2005 10:13

# 1 tactic
 
work with a buddy.

Lone wolf is dead wolf

There will of course be loads of "yeah but I took out 5 guys all by myself" statements that are certainly true..and possible.

But for a new person .. nothing is better to learn than a experienced partner showing you how to move.. where to move, where to shoot.. and keeping you calm.

Bandit October 20th, 2005 18:05

Some pointers
 
Take your time and pie every corner,
Work with a teammate (or teammates) to cover all the angles.
Use bounding overwatch with teammates to cover advances.
Think about your next move, and communicate it to your squaddies.
When you see an opportunity, seize it!

US Army MOUT doctrine powerpoint here:
Rapidshare

Now, please discuss!

Syn October 20th, 2005 18:22

Thanks Bandit and they rest of you for your experienced input.


Bandt: I scanned through it quickly for now and need to learn from it before discussing it. The overhead view sequence slides of where each member is scanning is really helpful. :)

DanQuayle October 20th, 2005 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by kymoz
Quote:

Originally Posted by DanQuayle
3. Sitting in your backyard and taking 30 seconds to line up your shots does nothing for in-game accuracy. Put cans at various angles from a tree, and then pop in and out hitting the cans as effeiciently as possible.

I strongly discourage this practice (not the "spot on" exercise). Shooting in your backyard is no good idea, unless if you live in country with your closest neighbour at 10km. Only one complaint to the police from a neighbour and your dead meat. And if you were unfortunate enough to blow up a kid's eye by accident with a BB, you would spent the rest of your life paying for this accident, added with eternal remorse of what you did to that kid.

Those are the risks you are taking. Now, think.

Kymoz

I suppose I made the mistake of assuming others lived in the middle of nowhere as I did. Okay, do it SOMEWHERE SAFE, kids. But seriously, 10 km... can you even hear the bb's from 2 km?


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