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Cassius! February 1st, 2016 13:48

WE Glock Slide Stuck
 
Hi,
I'm new to airsoft, and literally just got my first GBB pistol.
It's a WE Glock 18C G-force T1 (salient arms type g18c).

I took off the slide, then spring guide/recoil spring and barrel to check over it. when I assembled it, the slide is now stuck and will not allow me to rack the slide forwards or backwards.

How do I fix this?,

Thanks in advance

ccyg8774 February 1st, 2016 13:50

Which location is your slide locking?
At the slide catch location or further back?

Cassius! February 1st, 2016 13:58

https://www.flickr.com/photos/139868...posted-public/

It looks like this.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/139868...blic/lightbox/

Kungpow February 1st, 2016 14:18

Try to disassemble the pistol again. If it does not budge keep holding down the disassembly lever, and give it a light tap with the palm of your hand to the back of the slide.

Cassius! February 1st, 2016 14:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kungpow (Post 1970279)
Try to disassemble the pistol again. If it does not budge keep holding down the disassembly lever, and give it a light tap with the palm of your hand to the back of the slide.

I've tried this, the slide won't move at all, the dissassembly lever is half pressed down. The slide can move 2-3 mm and the trigger can reset with this slight wobble of the slide.

RainyEyes February 1st, 2016 15:03

It looks like the barrel grouping isn't going into place; the recoil spring guide should not be protruding out like that.

Hold down both sides of the slide disassembly and try to rack it back. Do this GENTLY.

If this does not work, hold down both sides of the slide disassembly and try to shimmy the recoil spring guide into place.

Not familiar with glock series, but is there a safety mechanism?

Handsonic February 1st, 2016 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainyEyes (Post 1970282)
It looks like the barrel grouping isn't going into place; the recoil spring guide should not be protruding out like that.

Hold down both sides of the slide disassembly and try to rack it back. Do this GENTLY.

If this does not work, hold down both sides of the slide disassembly and try to shimmy the recoil spring guide into place.

Not familiar with glock series, but is there a safety mechanism?

The safety mechanism is a little latch where the bottom rail space is. It slides back and forth.
http://s7.postimg.org/hekofr5gr/this_thing.jpg

Cassius! February 1st, 2016 15:11

the slide assembly is pushed down without me needing to do so. The slide won't budge forwards or backwards

Thenooblord February 1st, 2016 15:19

try pulling the spring guide forward, see if it moves or is jammed, to me it looks like the slide was installed with the barrel not properly in battery

also where are you located?

Cassius! February 1st, 2016 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thenooblord (Post 1970287)
try pulling the spring guide forward, see if it moves or is jammed, to me it looks like the slide was installed with the barrel not properly in battery

also where are you located?

The spring guide can be pulled forwards.
I'm in the UK (I apologise, I'm not Canadian, you guys just have the best airsoft forums).

RainyEyes February 1st, 2016 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius! (Post 1970290)
The spring guide can be pulled forwards.
I'm in the UK (I apologise, I'm not Canadian, you guys just have the best airsoft forums).

It sounds like the spring guide isn't catching onto the barrel grouping... Not sure where to go from there. All I can say is do NOT force it, try to wiggle it around. If you get frustrated, take 10 minutes to take a breather and try again. Worst you can do is lose your cool and end up brute forcing it and breaking it.

Last resort: take it back to the store you bought it from and ask for assistance. Do not tell them you disassembled it unless they ask you.

Cassius! February 1st, 2016 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainyEyes (Post 1970292)
It sounds like the spring guide isn't catching onto the barrel grouping... Not sure where to go from there. All I can say is do NOT force it, try to wiggle it around. If you get frustrated, take 10 minutes to take a breather and try again. Worst you can do is lose your cool and end up brute forcing it and breaking it.

Last resort: take it back to the store you bought it from and ask for assistance. Do not tell them you disassembled it unless they ask you.

Wiggling the spring guide?

BioRage February 1st, 2016 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius! (Post 1970290)
(I'm not Canadian, you guys just have the best airsoft forums).

http://pre14.deviantart.net/b900/th/...ik-d4cwd9f.png

RainyEyes February 1st, 2016 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius! (Post 1970295)
Wiggling the spring guide?

The recoil spring guide is the black protruding piece of plastic under the barrel (under the golden barrel in your gun).

The recoil spring guide should be seated in the barrel grouping where the "metal block" (the name escapes me) seats into the disassembly lever. The recoil spring guide could be preventing the block from being properly seated since it's out of place. It doesn't appear to be at an angle so it could just be caught on something. Good luck!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsonic (Post 1970283)
The safety mechanism is a little latch where the bottom rail space is. It slides back and forth.
http://s7.postimg.org/hekofr5gr/this_thing.jpg

Yes, thank you.

Remember to disengage the safety because that can also prevent the slide from going into battery in some guns.

Cassius! February 1st, 2016 18:27

Thanks for all the help.
Been working on it every now and then. Status hasn't changed, exactly in the same position as I started. I'm gonna keep trying for a day or two, if all fails, i'll take it to an airsoft specialist shop. I'll try keep y'all updated.
Thanks again, for all the quick replies and you've made me a fan and now user of this forum.

Styrak February 1st, 2016 20:17

Yup, grabbing a hold of the recoil spring guide and yanking it all the way forward, then trying to manipulate the slide back and forth.

Danke February 1st, 2016 21:30

The hammer is probably fouled in the BBU.

If you can slide a stiff metal shim under the nozzle to knock the hammer back down while you press the slide to the rear you may have some luck. You have to do this via the magwell.

You need to be very slow while doing this. No pounding on it or you'll be dealing with a lot of broken parts.

ccyg8774 February 2nd, 2016 11:56

Are you able to wiggle the outer barrel slightly (with little force), or is the outer barrel stuck there solid?

shelcoof February 6th, 2016 07:42

Just throwing this out there if you haven't already fixed it.

First thing you want to try and do is rack the gun back. If you pulled the trigger and can't rack the gun back you won't be able to take down the gun due to the hammer not being reset

Step 1: Try and align the inner and outer barrel in place if you are able to. I do this by tapping the outer barrel back. If the nozzle is stuck pull it back manually

Step 2: Wiggle the recoil spring guide and set it in place. You'll know when it seated right when it slides right in

Step 3: Try racking the Gun back. If you pulled the trigger you'll have to reset the hammer. You rack the gun back your half way there to getting the slide off

It would also help if you took more pictures and possibly a video describing the issues.

Cassius! February 6th, 2016 13:39

There's a resolution and here's what happened:

I was going home (London) for the week to visit my parents (as I live at Uni) so I brought my gun with me as there's an airsoft shop nearby. I took it in and the shopkeeper took a look saying he gets many gbb pistols coming in with stuck slides however never a gun with literally no movement of the slide 1-2mm wobble of the slide. He tried wobbling every part of the gun for the next 10 mins. Last option was the vice and hammer, I had no other options so I let him try with the warning that around 50% of guns will be ruined and need few to many major replacement parts. The wobble could actually reset the trigger so I wasn't to worried about the lower.

The frame was clamped to the table wrapped in a cloth and the slide was slowly and lightly knocked with a dead blow hammer under another cloth. After some knocking and fiddling with the recoil spring guide, the slide remained fixed as if frozen in time. We're half an hour in and nothing has changed, things were not looking good. But as he persevered on his supporting grip lost grip and accidentally caught his thumb into the ejection port, hitting the outer barrel.

HAZAR! There was movement, the outer barrel moved forwards a few millimeters with the consequence of the shop keeper bruising his thumb. He endured so he knocked the outer barrel through the ejection port and the outer barrel moved forwards freely. A second hit to the back of the slide knocked the slide clean off onto the floor.

Up to now it had been Schrodinger's cat, we didn't know if the gun was operable or not. All the parts were picked up and examined. There was a small chip at the end of the recoil spring and a tiny crack in the rear slide. He wiped down all the part, used his workshop air gun to blow out any residues and quickly oiled the moving parts before putting it all together. With a fresh mag, it fired flawlessly in semi and auto. He took it apart and examined it again then back together, he deemed it fit and worthy for action and didn't even charge me a penny for his hour of struggle and effort.

If you're wondering about the small crack, its in the rear of the slide, on the corner of the where the slide guides the rail of the lower. It's a diagonal crack so if it ever breaks, it'll just be a blunt corner. I've checked over it and fired a few mags through it and everything seems in order. So what was the issue, it was probably me being an idiot when installing the slide to the frame as the outer barrel and inner barrel, hop up did not seat properly, wedging everything together. Lesson learnt: check twice that everything is properly in place before reinstalling.

Thanks again for the help and advice, the quick responses helped me calm down during my first few stressful hours trying to fix it.

http://airsoftcanada.com/picture.php...pictureid=6873

shelcoof February 6th, 2016 16:52

I had two stark arms Glocks freeze up on me a similar way. To this day I have no clue what the heck went on.... all I know is that the slide was locked back and I have to cut the slide in half and even then it was still stuck on!

I managed to get it off but Stark Arms Glock don't mesh well with other parts so..... it ended up being a junk gun... sold it eventually for parts. BOTH of them

ox56 February 9th, 2016 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius! (Post 1970311)
Thanks for all the help.
Been working on it every now and then. Status hasn't changed, exactly in the same position as I started. I'm gonna keep trying for a day or two, if all fails, i'll take it to an airsoft specialist shop. I'll try keep y'all updated.
Thanks again, for all the quick replies and you've made me a fan and now user of this forum.

When it locks in spot is it almost all the way back?

Cassius! February 10th, 2016 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by ox56 (Post 1970983)
When it locks in spot is it almost all the way back?

I posted an update, it is fixed now.

ox56 February 11th, 2016 00:16

Ah ok

DYORD September 26th, 2016 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius! (Post 1970752)

The frame was clamped to the table wrapped in a cloth and the slide was slowly and lightly knocked with a dead blow hammer under another cloth. After some knocking and fiddling with the recoil spring guide, the slide remained fixed as if frozen in time. We're half an hour in and nothing has changed, things were not looking good. But as he persevered on his supporting grip lost grip and accidentally caught his thumb into the ejection port, hitting the outer barrel.

http://airsoftcanada.com/picture.php...pictureid=6873

Hi! Can't really picture how were you able to take off the slide. I think I have the same problem as yours. Stuck. Won't slide backwards nor forward.

DYORD September 26th, 2016 03:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius! (Post 1970752)

The frame was clamped to the table wrapped in a cloth and the slide was slowly and lightly knocked with a dead blow hammer under another cloth. After some knocking and fiddling with the recoil spring guide, the slide remained fixed as if frozen in time. We're half an hour in and nothing has changed, things were not looking good. But as he persevered on his supporting grip lost grip and accidentally caught his thumb into the ejection port, hitting the outer barrel.

http://airsoftcanada.com/picture.php...pictureid=6873

Hi! Can't really picture how were you able to take off the slide. I think I have the same problem as yours. Stuck. Won't slide backwards nor forward.

MadMax September 26th, 2016 03:48

Any wiggle in the outer barrel? A stuck slide is often caused by an outer barrel which has seized up and can't drop down into the frame freely.

Try pushing the outer barrel rearwards and push the top of the chamber cover portion of the barrel downwards through the window cutout in the top of the slide.

DYORD September 28th, 2016 11:50

Was able to take the slide out. Been wiggling every part the whole day yesterday. Got frustrated and hammered the outerbarrel. Next thing i know, i was able to slide it back.

A bb got stuck inside the nozzle which locked in the inner barrel. Probably because my first thought it was just a regular jammed bullet. Tried pounding it until it went inside.

Now, i'm dealing with distorted nozzle. Not sure if I could get a part for this.

Not really sure why was the slide locked in the first place.


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