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Eddie December 9th, 2005 18:51

Guarder TAIWAN 5.56mm T65K2 AEG
 
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Guarder is set to release a Taiwenese 5.56 T65K2 AEG. It will be a limited production item and the interesting part is the fact that it will feature the split type gearbox making it easier to change springs, which will need to be done if used for skirmish in the UK as it will be clocking in 400fps out of the box. Guarders RRP is USD 450, it will weigh in at 3.5 kg feature a metal hop and 300 rnd magazine will be included. There is plenty more photos and information available on the product page which can be found, here.
-UKASC
http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-01.jpg

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-02.jpg
New Gearbox design, Change AEG spring more easy.

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-03.jpg

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-04.jpg
Flip-up night sight, aiming object more clear in the night.

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-05.jpg
All steel enhancement parts.

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-06.jpg
Adjustable rear sight.

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-07.jpg

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-08.jpg
Metal adjustable HOP-UP.

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-09.jpg

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-10.jpg

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-11.jpg

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-12.jpg

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-13.jpg

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-14.jpg
High quality AEG Motor (Made in Japan)

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-15.jpg
You can release the AEG Spring on SAFE position.

http://www.intrudershop.com/mmc/imag.../AEG-K2-16.jpg
Please sure the gear position before assemble.

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Limited Item!
The T65K2 AEG Rifle Shooting with Heavy-Kick!

Aluminum Receiver,All steel outer barrel, Metal adjustable HOP-UP,
300 Rd Magazine include.

DO NOT USE THE BATTERY BEYOND 8.4 V!

Length:115 cm
Inner Barrel Length:55 cm
Initial Bullet Speed: 120 m/s, 393 FPS ( 0.2g BB)
Weight: 3350 g
Material: Steel / Aluminum / Plastic

Item No.: AEG-K2
Suggested Retail Price: USD 450.00

Mantelope December 9th, 2005 19:00

Looks like switching to safe decocks the gun... damn good idea. Also, short motor, interesting. What looks even more interesting is the recoil thing in the stock... says "Heavy-kick!" in the ad.

Kid December 9th, 2005 19:06

Hey, that looks interesting... just like my M4 internally... I wonder if the uppers will be interchangable... *dreaming*

Edit - Damnit, doesn't look like it.

ColtFarmer December 9th, 2005 19:39

wow, that's so mine...

attack-beaver December 9th, 2005 19:46

well then. looks cool but seems almost to good.

Xepharo December 9th, 2005 22:06

-_-
 
Oh sweeeeeeeet.... I emailed them last year about it LOL...

I told them about the T62K2 (M16) T86(Carbine) and the T91 (To be adopted carbine version of T86 with flap top receiver). I really wanted to see my country's rifle to be seen in Airsoft... DREAM COME TRUE!!!!!!!!

Hopefully they come out with the T91 :D

Here's a pic of T86.... the T91 is the same, but flat top.
http://www.finalelites.com/pictures/twt86.jpg
Saudi Arabia purchased the T86 from Taiwan not long ago.
T86 beat the AK-74 and the Colt M16A2 in the torture test. It was able to work in dusty environment of the Middle East without any problems.
It is 5.56mm just like any other armalite.

ColtFarmer December 9th, 2005 22:25

I am happy as a clam with the T86... T91 would be too good to dream of...

will have to ask tru to bring one in for me =)

P.S. whats up with the scope mount looking thing on the carry handle, is that like a QD mount or something?

Mysteryfish December 9th, 2005 22:39

Something beat out the AK-47!?

me <--- not a doubter, just surprised. I thought it ALWAYS took the torture tests best (the AK...)

Sounds neat... I hope these new AEG improvements (split mechboxes, recoil thingies...) start spilling over into other companies/guns.

AEG's have been around long enough for the new concepts to start leaking in.. (IMO)..


$450 USD is pricy.. :(

Gryphon December 9th, 2005 22:39

Finally someone's making a T65! The first piston-driven AR-15 copy that was issued to an armed forces.

That looks AWESOME, and par for the course with Guarder stuff should be of tremendous quality. I'm in! :D

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Originally Posted by Mysteryfish
$450 USD is pricy.. :(

LOL, not if it's Guarder! :p

Mysteryfish December 9th, 2005 22:45

I didn't say "relatively" pricy...

G_unit December 10th, 2005 19:17

Wow what an ugly piece of shit, that is the stupidest looking gun ever.

Goldman December 10th, 2005 19:24

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Originally Posted by G_unit
Wow what an ugly piece of shit, that is the stupidest looking gun ever.


I suppose you prefer your" Nine " Mr Pimp? Serisouly , if you dont like it thats one thing, but you dont need to shit in a post like that.

damage December 10th, 2005 19:48

:rrr: Stop IT! I'm gonna be really tired working overtime on this one :sad:

The Saint December 10th, 2005 20:46

Anyone know why the warning against batteries over 8.4v?

Aaidin December 10th, 2005 20:50

Am I the only one who thinks that thing is ugly as hell?

R.A.T.M._JLD December 10th, 2005 20:52

you know what your not the only one but I do love the M16 but something thoughs me off about this gun.

Bob the Angry Potato December 10th, 2005 20:52

Nah, you're Number 2.
I'd be Number 3, but I'm impressed in the amount of work that went into that rifle. I just hate all Armalites.

DanQuayle December 10th, 2005 20:56

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Originally Posted by Goldman
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Originally Posted by G_unit
Wow what an ugly piece of shit, that is the stupidest looking gun ever.


I suppose you prefer your" Nine " Mr Pimp? Serisouly , if you dont like it thats one thing, but you dont need to shit in a post like that.

Someone should make this little exchange their signature. The AEG is pretty cool IMHO.

Dozer_01 December 10th, 2005 21:07

Yes, please don't mind G_Unit. Its "that time of the month" for her. Anyway, I think the gun looks quite nice. The little hump on the stock adds a bit of charactor!

damage December 10th, 2005 23:32

I dont really see why this AEG is ugly. True depends on someones preference. Some find it ugly some dont. I find it cool and nice looking AEG. The design is like a new character of M16. Note on their gearbox split design looks strong enough to handle stiff spring and new features.

The Saint December 10th, 2005 23:48

I usually hate Armalites, but I'd make an exception for this rifle.

sharingan December 11th, 2005 08:28

YEAH....my dream come true!!!! when can i buy this airsoft?

Mike the great December 11th, 2005 21:36

I find it quite ugly my self, looks like a bad norinco AR clone........

Since the real one uses a AR18 gas system why not make a airsoft ar-18? :D
http://world.guns.ru/assault/ar18.jpg

Kid December 11th, 2005 21:40

Maybe I'm crazy, but I would like one of the old AR-10 rifles.
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as16-e.htm

http://world.guns.ru/assault/ar10b.jpg

http://world.guns.ru/assault/ar10.jpg

http://world.guns.ru/assault/ar10s.jpg

Anyone agree, or would you all say I'm crazy?

My favorite guns are the M16 VN and CAR 15 for the M16/AR line though...

attack-beaver December 11th, 2005 23:48

well the AR-10 is a 7.62mm round not a 5.56 like the rest of the Armalite seris.

Eddie December 12th, 2005 00:22

HK 416

Mike the great December 12th, 2005 00:28

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Originally Posted by Eddie
HK 416

don't they already make a body for that ?

Eddie December 12th, 2005 01:38

the only parts to make a AEG HK416 is the hurricane body and hurricane front gas block. It would be cool if they built a full HK416.

manchovie December 12th, 2005 02:27

is nobody but me noticing that there's something funny about those gears?

Mantelope December 12th, 2005 12:01

It's probably higher torque gears requiring a half-tooth piston; just like some Systema FTKs.

Kid February 10th, 2006 22:37

Anyway, time to drag this thread from the dust.

Has anyone picked one up?

If you haven't noticed, it's good news. $360 from RedWolf and WGC.

Though the barrel is long... and I hate that, if I can get rid of my ICS in time for this to still be in stock... I think this will be in my cards.

Still, would like a review, or more info. Anything really.

MadMax February 13th, 2006 18:45

I just got 3 in stock on Friday!

The finish is a little gross. Looks like a kind of cheap Asian product, but I have a feeling that the real steel is actually nastier looking. I'm at ShotShow right now and saw some Chinese AKs and some Russian wares at a collectors booth. They're downright ogly and have the value engineered feel you come to expect from ChiCom kind of weaponry. Castings often have tool flashing (busted off bits at the parting line of the casting tool). Big fat slopppy tolerances which are great for not jamming with sand or grime (a lot of clearance) but they make for crummy aesthetics.

I have to admit that the TM AKs are not very realistic to me now. They're just too clean. Wide issue Chinese stocks are made from materials that are kind of close to pallet grade wood. At least they're cross laminated so they don't develop a huge warp.

Mmmmm... Select grade M14 with thermal imaging scope... The HK MP7 is an incredible bit of sub gun.

When I get back, I'll power up a Guarder TW Armalite and see how it does. First impressions are not bad though. It's certainly got heft. The barrel is also in pretty stiff. Stock metal body and a stiff outer barrel. I don't think this thing will develop barrel wobble.

DuffMan February 13th, 2006 20:11

What about this 'recoil stock' thing that we've been specualting on?

Jar|-|ead February 13th, 2006 20:14

WOW a AEG Hard-Kick...first time for me...lol

Mysteryfish February 13th, 2006 22:37

Yeh, Madmax, kindof agree about the whole "too clean" thing.

It contributes to the toy-like feel of some guns.

How are the innards on those guns?

Gryphon February 14th, 2006 00:26

It's about as fair to call this gun a Guarder product as it would be to say the Vibe is manufactured by Pontiac. This gun is actually built by a company called Lihyang or something to that effect; looks like Guarder only stuck their name on it to get it to market. Which is too bad because it seems to be very mediocre and is sullying Guarder's reputation.

[Lithium] February 19th, 2006 06:20

Stock reminds me of the one off the ar-18
http://world.guns.ru/assault/ar180b.jpg

and the foregrip looks almost like the one on the ar-10a2
http://world.guns.ru/assault/ar10a2.jpg

The Saint February 19th, 2006 17:04

Still waiting on that review you promise, MadMax. :D

In any case, I've always thought the real T65K2 looked a little bit cheap, at least from the pictures I've seen. If my parents didn't skadoo to Canada, I'd have had to hump one around by now. :lol:

OTTAWAlonewolf February 19th, 2006 22:03

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Originally Posted by Aaidin
Am I the only one who thinks that thing is ugly as hell?


NONONONO :sad:

OTTAWAlonewolf February 19th, 2006 22:03

u guys would need some Taiwanese camo for that !!!

let me know if u need some :salute:

enoh February 21st, 2006 22:05

any word on what that "hard kick" is like?

MadMax February 21st, 2006 22:44

The gun certainly bucks more than most AEGs. I can't say it's anything like recoil though.

At first the semi auto seems a little buggy, but I think it's because of the decocking feature. If you switch to safe from semi, the gun decocks. I note that semi works as expected on the second shot but the first pull seems a little wierd.

Out of the box, the gun chronos 381 +/- 3fps which is pretty consistent. I haven't tried the hop up yet.

The overall build is very stiff. No sign of barrel wobble. I don't know if this gun could develop it as I'm not willing to field NIB guns I plan to sell. It's definitely heavy. Almost every exterior part is metal. The only plastic parts on the outside are the stock and grip.

The stock finish is pretty nice and grippy.

I haven't had a chance to look into the mechbox yet.

MadMax February 23rd, 2006 03:06

Sigh. In the end these AEGs are not field worthy.

Guarder pushed them as preupgraded AEGs, but they said nothing about the mechbox. The stock gears are plastic. The demo model I powered up has already shredded it's bevel gear despite only firing a few rounds. I'm not sure if it's possible to refit them for TM mechboxes, but they're certainly garbage if they don't release metal gears.

Such a shame because the bodies are pretty well made. I don't know how they thought they could get away with 380fps and plastic gears. Guarder mentioned to me that they were planning to release upgrade components for these AEGs. I'll have to see if I can get them to do some metal gears. These AEGs are not saleable with the stock plastic gears.

Gaah. I have three of the damn things and they're not saleable as game guns until Guarder releases metal gears...

nic_s July 13th, 2006 01:54

BUMP, for great justice and more info from those that own this gun. Is it true then that it's not made by Guarder?

I'm seriously considering buying this gun, so any input would be greatly appreciated.

MadMax July 13th, 2006 02:17

I would have to warn against the Guarder marketed TK65. Great feeling model with good aesthetics, but the gears are utter garbage.

They're brittle plastic for an AEG which shoots around 380fps stock. The ridicululous bummer is that the gears are proprietary. Sagami motor (same maker as TM motors), really rugged build, and garbage gears and piston not substitutable with TM stuff. I have a small hope that the mechbox parts could be replaced with the two piece ICS box, but in the stock build without a complete gear change the TK65 is just a great model.

In about 30 shots, I stripped the bevel gear and cracked the piston. So I'm stuck with 3x TK65's that I took a gamble with and can't sell because of the crap gears.

bean July 13th, 2006 06:58

If you put a spring in it to get it closer to 300 fps do you think it will last a lot longer? Maybe you should make an upgrade gear tp sell ;-)


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