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JKT 1 December 26th, 2005 17:45

HyperStealth SpecAm camo
 
What do you guys think of this stuff?
http://www.hyperstealth.com/specam/home/index.html

To me, it looks much better and more sensible than MULTICAM, CADPAT or MARPAT (even as good as those all are!).

I've ordered a set of the Standard Woodland and the High Contrast Definition Woodland. The Urban looks pretty wicked too! I'm also looking forward to the Mountain pattern coming out - looks like it would work well in Autumn/Winter woodland.

My only gripe is the ACU style uniform - I prefer Canadian style trousers and British style smocks.

Digital_Assasin December 26th, 2005 17:56

Very interesting. Good find.

JKT 1 December 26th, 2005 18:16

Here's a close-up of the HCD Woodland pattern shirt:

http://www.mcaroy.com/camo/Hyperstea.../specamhd6.jpg

Snake Eyes December 26th, 2005 18:45

ya there cool, but i stil like my cadpat n marpat.

cdnsoldier December 26th, 2005 19:30

still, looks like it has potential, owning a set of each with matched equipment would sure be a sight to see

FOX_111 December 26th, 2005 19:30

Look nice. But the picture with background are a little too manipulated to show how good the stuff is.

I'd like to see it in action in person.

That bein said, I'd hit it!

Freedom Fighter December 26th, 2005 19:59

Certainly many options available, looks like really nice stuff!

kymoz December 26th, 2005 23:38

What about the fabric? Is it as good/better than the CADPAT Cordura (in terms of durabiliy, fading, softness, etc)?

Kymoz

Telnets December 27th, 2005 02:22

as far as ive heard from the collectors market, hyperstealth are nothing more then fabric printers which print thier own patterns and get uniforms made. They do a lot of off patterns, such as thier digital tigers and stuff..

this is not some sort of new prototype off the line thing..

nic_s December 27th, 2005 04:51

I'd hit it too. The woodland looks kinda like cadtarn. or fleckpat.

thePiRaTE!! December 27th, 2005 07:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by JKT 1
Here's a close-up of the HCD Woodland pattern shirt:

http://www.mcaroy.com/camo/Hyperstea.../specamhd6.jpg


hmm.. just from an aesthetic stand-point I preferred their standard woodland version... the pattern in the HCD kinda looks like when I try to do 'art' in MS paint. Also, it mentions the build material as being '100% lightweight cotton'. My reading on the subject points out cotton loses its color quickly and is more vulnerable to wear when compared to a 50/50 twill of polyester/cotton or nylon/cotton, such as is present in Propper or other mil supply builds. Their dye job may be top notch, hard to say without seeing the back of the fabric, but my instinct says avoid. Any experienced users of BDUs wish to relate to this research?

Rico December 27th, 2005 12:14

Good find. Their urban dark and mountain range patterns look tempting. Lets hope they offer shipping discounts/group rates. Their %15 flat shipping charge could end up to be rather expensive.

JKT 1 December 28th, 2005 05:27

Well I've not yet subjected a set to a full wash-wear-and-durability test, but I did get an evaluation set of the HCD Woodland - and it feels great. Its made in lightweight 100% cotton becuase it was originally designed for jungle use - but it feels like very high quality material, and the quality of the dyes also appears to be very high quality. So that should overcome the doubts about colour retention. In the final analysis, all fabrics fade somewhat over time - its the quality of the dyes that determines how much or how little.

By the way, HyperStealth is not to be confused with Tiger Stripe Productions. They did help TSP with the design of their digital tiger stripe pattern, but HyperStealth is much more than just a design studio - they actually do design through to full production. As they did for example with the Jordanian armed forces.

In my opinion, they've really got the right idea with the region-specific camo. CADPAT and MARPAT are both really good for some environments, but they're not so great in others (same for MULTICAM). The cool thing about SpecAm is that it should give you the ability to match your camo to your area - and have a different look from the other digital patterns out there.

I just hope that it takes off and that it becomes as readily available, and with a wide range of gear and clothing choices, as the other patterns.

JKT 1 December 29th, 2005 13:21

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I haven't yet had a chance (or good light) to get out into the woods for a proper photo shoot, but here's a couple of quick test shots outdoors this afternoon at least.

One photo shows a range of SpecAm patterns laid out side-by-side for comparison, the other shows an "HCD Woodland" shirt placed between some shrubbery in such a way as to simulate a prone or crouching person, the other one shows both an "HCD Woodland" and a "Tropical" shirt side-by-side between the shrubs. And then finally, one of the "Tropical" shirt up close.

JKT 1 December 30th, 2005 07:13

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Close-up photos of the High Contrast Definition (HCD) Woodland, Urbanized Terrain and Desert Viper shirts.

JKT 1 January 1st, 2006 10:30

Hot News:

SpecAm will soon be available as weapons covers too!

Announcement

And by the way - that's my HK33K featured in the Standard Woodland mockup. :o

Zeonprime January 1st, 2006 10:59

I decided to look at the cam being posted in here..so I read the rest of the site as well (ya know something about reading before you buy..go figure)
I'm assuming this company is on the up and up..but something I saw went in my head as being really cheap or just blowing smoke up your kilts
http://www.hyperstealth.com/hyperstealth-chamber-ac.jpg
pardon me if I'm wrong but isnt that the hallway from the ship "Tantive IV" from Star Wars Eps III and Eps IV??? It says in explanation for it:

"HyperStealth® also intends to manufacture and sell multi-person anti-claustrophobic Hyperbaric Chambers which may utilize a special HyperStealth® Oxygen Safe Passive Negative Ion Generator currently under development but as yet untested with Oxygen."

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/ic...C328EC0000.jpg


Now I'm really damn sure Vader strolled down that hall before ordering his troops to "Tear this ship apart until you find me those plans!" :innocent:

makes me very concerned as to the quality of the product.

Phalanix January 1st, 2006 11:04

Mike has no life.

Zeonprime January 1st, 2006 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalanix
Mike has no life.

you just know I'm right :grin:
..Just showed Eddie and he agrees..it is the ship. and if anyone thinks I'm BSing..the picture I posted that shows the hyperbaric chamber Artist rendidtion is straight from hyperstealth.com (right click - properties).

Phalanix January 1st, 2006 11:47

I'm sorry, I stand corrected. Mike AND Eddie have no lives. *lol*

JKT 1 January 1st, 2006 15:00

Yeah, I know what you mean about the hyperbaric chamber stuff seeming a bit odd... But I can assure you that these guys are on the up and up - the hyperbaric chamber stuff all tanked after Sept. 11, and then the camo side really took off.

If you have read the entire site as you say, then you'll have also seen that they've outfitted the entire Jordanian military and police with new camo designs and uniforms as well. So far in my dealings with them, they've been totally straight and squared away.

JKT 1 January 2nd, 2006 06:03

For Mike and Eddy: ;-)

Lawrence, please feel free to share this explanation with the Airsoft Canada forum:

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to recognize the chamber design was a modified hallway from Star Wars, only (6 years)!

We were looking at ordering square chambers - less claustrophobia and give it a futuristic look on the inside - hence we borrowed a hallway from the Star Wars movie and converted it with graphics. The chamber manufacturer Dr. Phil Nuytten, designed all the underwater stuff for the Movie the Abyss, http://www.nuytco.com/ and was going to duplicate this clean rectangular smooth look but we dropped running and operating Hyperbaric Chambers when the market became oversaturated with chambers and we couldn't compete in the market. However we still have the option open to manufacturer and we also have a see through chamber which we don't show on the site as the design is proprietary.

By the way in 2001 I meet with actor Michael York (Logan's run) and his wife Patricia York as they were going to support us as spokes people for our company if we went into Hyperbaric Chambers.

Now here is where is gets interesting; Patricia York is the mother of Rick McCallum (producer of Star Wars episodes 1, 2, and 3 and the re-release of episodes 4,5, and 6) from her previous marriage. Now George Lucas is very close with Patricia and she is usually the only person he will allow to do still photos of him. She requested 10 of our Passive Negative Ion Generator hats to send to Australia for her son Rick and for George Lucas as they getting ready to film Episode II. Patricia also had us send the product to Astronaut Buzz Aldrin.

So yes we did borrow from Star Wars but in the end we gave them something they wanted from us. How's that for a tradeoff!

Sincerely,
Guy

JKT 1 January 15th, 2006 08:19

back on topic.
 
SpecAm Desert Viper camo to be used in Hollywood film:

http://www.hyperstealth.com/specam/sentinel/index.html

JKT 1 January 17th, 2006 09:03

more photos...
 
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"Desert Viper", "High Contrast Definition (HCD) Woodland", "Tropical" trousers. "HCD Woodland" and "Tropical" boonies.

JKT 1 January 17th, 2006 09:05

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"Urbanized Terrain" trousers and boonie.

JKT 1 January 17th, 2006 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by kymoz
What about the fabric? Is it as good/better than the CADPAT Cordura (in terms of durabiliy, fading, softness, etc)?

Its a very comfortable, tight-weave cotton twill.

concept_8 January 17th, 2006 18:27

Hi JKT, just wondering what you've been paying for some of these products delivered to you, if you don't mind?
GBP would be fine as I'l just double it for cnd dollar amounts.
I'm pretty interested in some of those patterns.
Some of them look realy quite effective.
Thanx for the post as I would've never have know these guys even existed.

JKT 1 January 18th, 2006 05:58

Prices are on the pre-order page of HyperStealth's website: http://www.hyperstealth.com/specam/order/index.html

Because the ones I have at the moment are Evaluation Samples - and not full production specimens (and I had no choice on the sizes) - I got them at a slight discount. Unfortunately, Guy put the full value on the packing slip so I got charged import and VAT at full whack by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise. :smack:

JKT 1 February 26th, 2006 08:42

HCD Woodland in the woods...
 
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Obviously not the best terrain, or season, that HCD Woodland was designed for - but you'll get some idea at least.

Note: this uniform was made from the lightweight cotton that didn't have the "shine" problem of the heavier weight stuff.

Also note: photos were taken at ranges of approx. 10 and 20 yards.

MadMorbius February 26th, 2006 10:03

I think the regular woodland would be more effective than the HCD.

JKT 1 March 3rd, 2006 14:08

Well, I've actually switched my order over to the new pattern, which is even better: SPEC4CE

http://www.hyperstealth.com/spec4ce/index.html

Pre-order here:

http://www.hyperstealth.com/spec4ce/order/index.html

JKT 1 March 9th, 2006 13:07

UPDATE
 
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...1&postcount=67

thePiRaTE!! September 7th, 2006 07:17

I'm looking for feedback from users of the hyperstealth 100% cotton BDU's out there regarding durability/color retention. How are they holding up? I'm liking some of their newer patterns.

MadMorbius September 7th, 2006 10:19

Can't tell you, since they still haven't delivered the product they comitted to on pre-order. I was supposed to have it for the summer, but they've pushed it back continually.

I'm not impressed thus far. The plan was to aquire a test uniform, and then go through full trials with 20 or 30 sets. Since we haven't received the test uniform, no trials, and end of trial period is coming soon.

Oh well.

thePiRaTE!! September 7th, 2006 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMorbius
Can't tell you, since they still haven't delivered the product they comitted to on pre-order. I was supposed to have it for the summer, but they've pushed it back continually.

I'm not impressed thus far. The plan was to aquire a test uniform, and then go through full trials with 20 or 30 sets. Since we haven't received the test uniform, no trials, and end of trial period is coming soon.

Oh well.


Bummer... well, thanks for that info, perhaps its more telling than anything. I was looking for an autumn option. Somthing different, but maybe a tried a true product is better than nothing.

JKT 1 January 16th, 2007 06:19

I had several sets of the prototype 100% cotton SpecAm uniform, and I wore one of them a couple of times last summer.

I found it to the most comfortable uniform I've ever worn - the material was very soft and supple, yet still seemed good and strong. Also, it didn't fade at all after 2 washes through a washing machine on normal dark coloured cotton settings followed by tumble drying.

The production version ECU seems to be a good improvement on the prototype design. But there have have been big problems with the assembly of the uniforms over in China - and hence the long delays (its now supposed to be Feb./March 07 delivery timeframe).

IF there's any good news out of this it seems to be that a few countries are also interested in the uniforms now, and at least one has placed a large order for their national police force. So maybe that will help to unblock the production bottle-neck.

MrEvolution January 16th, 2007 13:00

whats the difference between urban and metro?

ILLusion January 16th, 2007 13:45

Metro:
http://www.intertrade.nl/assets/imag...eau%20Male.jpg


Urban:
http://www.leh.art.pl/tapety/gangsta.jpg


(sorry, I just had to. I couldn't resist.)

SnakeDoctor January 16th, 2007 13:57

The images of the hyper stealth stuff are soo manipulated. Theres a couple where all they did was change the darkness of the picture to match the outfit, and they did it 3 times in a row.

Talk about shaping a reality..

MrEvolution January 16th, 2007 15:46

hahahahahaha. I got owned.
Damn you ILLusion.

MadMorbius January 16th, 2007 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by JKT 1 (Post 408566)
I had several sets of the prototype 100% cotton SpecAm uniform, and I wore one of them a couple of times last summer.

I found it to the most comfortable uniform I've ever worn - the material was very soft and supple, yet still seemed good and strong. Also, it didn't fade at all after 2 washes through a washing machine on normal dark coloured cotton settings followed by tumble drying.

The production version ECU seems to be a good improvement on the prototype design. But there have have been big problems with the assembly of the uniforms over in China - and hence the long delays (its now supposed to be Feb./March 07 delivery timeframe).

IF there's any good news out of this it seems to be that a few countries are also interested in the uniforms now, and at least one has placed a large order for their national police force. So maybe that will help to unblock the production bottle-neck.

I'm still waiting on my bought and paid for evaluation set. If you know this guy well, perhaps you could give him a kick in the ass for keeping me waiting this long. The uniform was to be used for trials last summer, with an eventual order of 50 or more sets, but I'm unlikely to go with them any longer.

It's starting to look like Propscam all over again.


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