Need an RHOP?
 

I have a few guns that I am ready to upgrade, and I'm just wondering. I've heard both sides of the rhop argument, and is it worth it? When do I rhop a gun, and when don't I?

You rhop a gun when you want it to shoot 300ft.
You flat hop a gun if you can't afford the $45-$60 to Rhop it

There's no reason not to do it

I was going to say, not really a multi sided thing. No reason not to. I know I’ll never go back.

I got Zim to do mine, I believe ThunderCactus you offer the service as well?

Started offering it again, seems a bunch of people were doing it and suddenly are not anymore. Coupled with some people charging outrageous prices for mediocre work...

My local tech says that unless you're using .36g or higher an rhop is a waste.

No point unless you are running .35's and above

Works great on 0.30g
Would not recommend anything lower

There’s a few different hop methods out there that work well depending on the gun type. The R-hop works well on 95% of guns and the ones it doesn’t is because their design requires a different approach. You likely have a gun that’ll effectively use it. A proper R-hop is certainly the way to go, though only some techs do it totally right. There is no reason not to do one and the hop and B.B. quality weight are your immediate go-to’s with any gun you wish to increase performance with. It’s not expensive and will help with performance if done correctly, period. Get it done. If you have the cash, buy a quality barrel as well, 6.04 or 6.03.

i have an rhop in my otherwise stock ak (a used rhop at that, done by zim) and i have a flathop in my p* m4. my ak gets tighter groupings more consistently, and i know where the bb will be in correlation to my crosshair at various ranges due to the consistency. the p* on the other hand outranges it (based on muzzle energy alone) however its not nearly as consistent. the difference in groupings at range is night and day. not bashing on the flathop, as it is signifficantly better than the stock setup in the vast majority of cases, but if money is no option, then rhop is the way to go.

This might simply be due to the inherent superiority of AKs in the airsoft world. M4/armalites are harder to make accurate because there's so many parts that interface together, causing more wobble everywhere. AKs are built in a different way and are more "stable." It's not that you can't make an armalite more accurate than an AK, its just more work to do so. So for the same amount of work put on an AK and an armalite, you should normally see exactly what you report here.

Techs that say R Hop is not worth it are just techs that suck at R Hopping. If you are paying someone to do it, wait until you have a quality barrel because it is non transferable.

Fixed hop up peasant reporting in.

Anyone have recommendations on improving the distance and spread of a shotgun?

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actually, I have one bad thing to say about rhopping. My local tech doesn't rhop the standard way and his rhopps aren't adjustable for bb wieght. So it locks you down into one weight.
Other than that it's a great addition to any gun. Before I moved here I had my 416 rhopped and it performs great. Idk if it's any better than a flat hop (I'm using .3's) but it will not ever break and flat hopps might wear down.

I would have someone do it for you before you learn to yourself. Run heavy ammo and you won't regret it. Lowest I ran was .32s and it was just fine. Just don't run .25s. Not a whole lot to it.

Well, as you've probably started to suspect yourself now, your local tech is incapable of doing Rhops.
A properly done Rhop should be able to lift .43s, and still not overhop on .20s.
The problem usually lies in the tech failing to mod the nub and adjuster arm.

Find someone who R-hops properly. There is no viable hop method that leaves the gun unadjustable. Techs either don’t do it, do it badly, or do it right. I don’t need to tell you which one you need.

Yep, in my avalon I run .32s and it's great!

Oh, cool! You have an avalon? Is the rhop all the upgrades you've done to it?

No, I've put a new barrel, bucking, and chamber into it. But that's it. Performs great!

For sure man, for sure. How do you like it?

I love it! It performs great! One of the best guns on the market.

Cool! Where did you get it? I haven't been able to find one.

I got mine from Butthole Airsoft, they are a great retailer.

So like do u guys work there because it looks like the same person whose just replying to themself in order to promote a store?

Same IP address, illuminati confirmed.

Your joking right lol


I guess from this post here I R-Hopped mine up just fine. :)

I used 0.20g BBS to begin with and it shot alright... really had to tune it in so that it shot straight without any over hopping. Made no performance difference until I used much heavier ammo.

Once I used 0.30g BBS there was no going back. The range on the thing was incredible.

I didn't find out that you had to use heavy ammo until a buddy on the field asked me how my R-Hopped performed.

My initial answer was meh it made no difference. So he asked me to compare with his gun. He was using a Polar Star shooting at 400fps and I had my gun shooting at 350fps.

I decided to use his 0.30g BBS to make the test more fair and wow... my gun was out ranging him by quit a lot.

We were both blown away by the results.

My Primary for the time being is a very compact VFC KAC PDW with the short barrel that out ranges snipers :)

Oh yeah? A new account is replying about their awesome best brand new airsoft gun within 2 minutes of each post and the person asking the "where did you get it" question has a name that's almost the same as the shop lmao.

I mean, advertising is fine just create an official merchant/retailer account and advertise like you would normally but if you're going to shill it makes you look like an idiot company that is trying to make fake reviews because you have a shit product/service.

Theatricality and deception are powerful agents.

nope, same IP address on both users lol

Man that is sad but you guys sure know how lighten things up lol

I used 0.20g BBS to begin with and it shot alright... really had to tune it in so that it shot straight without any over hopping. Made no performance difference until I used much heavier ammo.
Once I used 0.30g BBS there was no going back. The range on the thing was incredible.
I didn't find out that you had to use heavy ammo until a buddy on the field asked me how my R-Hopped performed.

Dude are you trolling? Two of your posts you jacked from other users.

This is what I hear when reading some of those posts...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-ipAiS4rbK8/maxresdefault.jpg

anyone tried Tru-Hop as an r-hop replacement? https://www.evike.com/products/65565/

i've seen some pretty awesome reviews when paired with a maple leaf bucking