ICS AK-74M Canadian Review *UPDATE*
 

Firstly, I would like to thank Randy at Double Edge Airsoft located in Calgary, AB. for sending me a review sample of the ICS AK-74M from his very first shipment. We have all been waiting a very long time, nearly 2 years, since ICS first announced their plans to produce an AK variant. Here is my overall impression of the gun in it's entirety.

I received the gun on the 3rd. of March and opened up the brown paper wrapping to reveal the box in detail.

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I also noticed that the gun is as complete in packaging and accessories as is being sold elsewhere in the world.

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The gun comes with a cleaning rod, front sight tool, 1000 round bottle of ICS brand .20g bbs, manual and best of all (2) 550 round high capacity magazines.

A little word here about magazines. I own a Marui AK-47 and a Classic Army SLR105A1 and I did some magazine fit-tests with all 3 AK's. The Marui mags were a perfect fit in the ICS AK, yet would wobble and rattle in both others. The STAR mags were also a very good fit, much better than the others as well.

The Classic Army AK-47 lowcaps would rattle a bit in all three AK's and the Classic Army AK-74 mags were a very tight fit in the ICS AK. The fit was not too tight for use, however, just required a bit of effort.

The ICS mags were a very good to perfect fit in all 3 AK's and there was no feeding problems encountered with any mags in any guns.

One neat feature I noticed right away, while playing with the gun, was the fully retractable bolt assembly. You don't really get this on other AK's, with the other exception being the G&G RK-104, and it's a nice treat.

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The bolt is a heavy lump of steel and, when retracted and released, hits the "chamber" with a satisfying "clang".

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The mount base on the left hand side of the gun is pre-attached by ICS so that installation of the optional scope or RDS rail will be quick and easy. You can also see the rivets (that's right real rivets, but more on that later) that hold the body and internals on the real AK together are present here.

Now on to the disassembly. The front grips were the first to come off and they tear-down just like the real gun (more or less). The lever on the front end just underneath the rear sight pulls up to the level posisiton and a gentle push forward and up on the upper grip pops it right out. Very easy.

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Once the upper grip is removed, a small lever is visible under the front portion of the upper grip.

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Lifting up on this lever and sliding the grip and cup assembly forward removes the lower grip and this completes the removal of the front grip assembly.

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It should be noted, however, that grip removal is not necessary to access the mechbox assembly. The removal of the mechbox in this gun is very simple.

First, you remove the top cover in the usual AK fashion with the pushbutton at the rear. Then you slide out the "recoil" spring, guide and "bolt".

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Next, remove the pistol grip from the rear with the lone screw on the bottom and just pull it off. The trigger guard locks into this, so you must remember to pay attention to that upon reassembly.

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You can clearly see here that the gun I received definately has the Turbo 2000 motor, but that's not an issue for me unless I plan on seriously upgrading this gun.

Next, you remove the stock via the 2 screws located in the top and bottom of the stock as with most other AK's. Then just pull the stock off and disconnect the wiring at the connector right off of the mechbox.

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Next, you remove the 2 screws located on the front end of the gun just below the rear sight. This allows for the removal of the entire front end of the gun, which includes the inner and outer barrel and hop-up chamber. It slides out as you drop the front of the barrel downwards.

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Now the mechbox is ready to be removed. It just slides right out as one complete unit, just like many other AK's out there.

I immediately noticed the unique construction of the body of the AK. They use 3 distinct layers to make the body. The outer shell is a thin layer (about 1/16 of an inch thick) of stamped steel. The middle layer is your standard ABS plastic and the inner layer is steel with thickness varying from between 1/16 of an inch to 1/4 of an inch. The inner layer is basically not complete over the whole body, but rather in sections over about 1/2 of the body. Those rivets I mentioned before, well they hold (along with a bunch of screws) the body layers together. It's an extremely rigid design and I can't say to much bad about it.

Here's a pic of the layering on the front of the body.

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And here's one of the inside of the body. You can see the different layers and how thick the body is.

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Now onto the mechbox. This mechbox looks like any other Marui AK I've worked on, except for the color. ICS has painted the exterior and cylinder black so as not to show a HUGE silver glint when you pull back that bolt. Really nice touch, in my opinion.

The internals are what I expected to see from other photos I'd seen on the ICS website. The mechbox has steel bushings (not the "upgrade" copper bushings ICS usually sells), reinforced ICS steel gears, a full capacity cylinder and stock ICS cylinder components and spring guide. Everything else looks just like a Marui AK as far as switch, trigger and tappet are concerned.

The mechbox was well shimmed and lubricated and there were no signs of potential faults that I could see. The bevel gear appears to be different from other ICS gears I've seen as the small gear which turns the spur gear is a dark colour. Perhaps it has some heat treatment?

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After reassembling the gun in the reverse order to disassembly from above, I did some testing of the gun. The battery compartment cover (butt plate) removes the same way as a Marui, and not like the awful screws on the Classic Army. The battery compartment will only hold an 8.4 volt large battery, with modifications needed to hold a 9.6 volt.

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With a charged 8.4 volt 3000 mAH battery, I proceeded to test out the gun. On an initial dry fire, I noticed the gun to have a very fast rate-of-fire. My chrono showed it to be around 15 rounds per second or 900 rounds per minute. This is quite good for an 8.4 volt battery.

I loaded a mag full of Airsoft Elite .20g bbs and proceeded to fire the gun. With no hop-up engaged, the gun chrono'd a mean of 269.9 FPS of 20 shots with the three highest and lowest numbers discounted. I thought this was a little low, so I engaged the hop-up, which is a little different from a Marui with alot wider range.

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With the hop-up set to a mid-point area, the FPS jumped up to a mean of 317.8 FPS out of 20 shots with the three highest and lowest numbers discounted.

This variation in velocities leads me to think that the hop-up has a very wide range of adjustment to accomodate varying bb sizes. Using a good quality bb will offset this, but in cases where that isn't possible, the gun can accomodate you somehwat.

I didn't do any accuracy testing as this would require some outdoor time with the gun and that's not easy with a Canadian winter. Other reviews from Arnie's have shown this to be a reasonably accurate gun ,as far as airsoft guns can be anyway.

The gun has a good solid feel to it with no barrel wobble, creaks or rattles, save the rear sling loop as there is no sling on this gun yet. Mags don't rattle around, only the loose bbs in the mag.

Before I agreed to do this review, I told Randy at Double Edge that I wasn't going to do a free promotional review for his store or ICS products and I also told him I would tell the good along with the bad, whatever they may be. But you know, he was prompt with gun delivery kept me apprised via weekly pm's on the guns arrival and the gun was just a real treat to work on. I just can't really seem to find anything bad to say about either the gun or Double Edge.

Overall I rate the gun a 9.5 out of 10 for construction, fit and finish and esthetics. I'll update you all as I field the gun in another week or so.

And Randy at Double Edge was a great guy for getting me a review gun.

*UPDATE*
I got the chance to use the ICS AK this past weekend at the Ferry in Mission, B.C. I only used it for one game and I didn't fire alot of rounds out of the gun, but all shots were in semi-auto only and I got the chance to set the hop-up and check for subjective things like accuracy.

I can tell you for certain that this AK is NOT a CQB weapon. It's length being nearly the same as my M16, it's really no surprise. I did get to use it in a CQB setting with some longer distance shots. I double tapped some poor fellow in the head (sorry 'bout that) with virtually no time to react to his presence as he came around a corner and the gun fired very quickly. I plinked at some fellow on the dark upper car deck at about 150 feet and was forcing him to move around alot, so I was getting damn close.

I was not forced to cycle between full and semi to keep semi working, which is a common problem for ver. III guns. Both my stock Marui MP5K and G36c suffered from this problem.

My other teammates were impressed enough by my use of it this weekend to decide to add it to their arsenals as well.

mine is in the mail as we speak
till then, its perma-wood

Hey, good job with the review.

This, in conjuction with the review by Solomon over at Arnie's, provides a solid background on this gun (obviously aside from field testing).

I'm sure I speak for most people that we are looking forward to your further tests and updates.

I plan to field the gun on the 19th of March, so I'll keep you posted. But at any rate, if you do get a failure, repair and maintenance is comparatively easy on this gun.

Apart from the good fit of the mag into the body, I assume there were no issues with how the mag performed itself. No feed or jamming problems?

Nice review by the way.

How long will you be keeping the gun? Will there be a follow-up after putting a few more bags of BB's through it?

1) no feeding or jamming issues encountered.

2) FOREVER!!!

3) I've put about 1000 rounds through it so far and at about 1000 on a new battery, the R.O.F. dropped from 15 to 14 rounds per second. Boo-Hoo.

hahah finally the review came. Ive been waiting for this moment MC :P. Thanks alot.

Is that a Marpat sleeping bag or comforter?

Well now I do want an AK again..... heh heh told you Brad......

Mines comming this friday, i can't wait. I still don't understand how the FPS went up when the hop was engaged? Shouldn't it decrease with the extra pressure on the BB? But Anyways great review Mcguyver!

That body design sounds awesome.
The way it looks is like they designed it to eliminate flex entirely.

Is it super rigid?
And... Silly question, but does it look like you could safely let the bolt fly forward from it's rearmost position without eventually hammering the whole front-end of the gun off?

Do the mechbox guts look compatible with made-for-Marui stuff? Piston, Cylinder, etc?

The velocity change is due to, I believe, the physical diameter of the hop system. With the hop turned off, enough air blows past the bb and down the barrel ahead if it to drop the FPS. When you engage the hop, you are decreasing the diameter of the rubber enough to provide a better seal and voila. This would mean that slightly larger diameter bbs than the 5.98mm Airsoft Elite bbs may not suffer from this. But who doesn't engage the hop-up on an airsoft gun anyway?

The body of this gun is super rigid with zero flex at all. And yes you can let the bolt go and it clangs into the front of the body (chamber in the real gun), which is heavily reinforced.

As far as compatability with Marui-spec parts, this has never been a strong point for ICS and I haven't really tried with this gun to see if that is still the case. The only issue I see is possibly with gears and bushings. Everything else looks compatable with other brands. But this has always been the issue with other ICS guns as well.

And finally, thanks alot Kip for hosting my pics. You're a god-send!!

thanks alot for the review..
after all the research.. this look alot like my 1st gun...
just a quick general question: do prises for these guns go down?how quickly? or will it go up since its on special now?

no, not really

It'll go up a bit eventually, but like, twenty-fourty bucks more, at best?

Nice review Mac!!! The ICS Ak looks darn solid gun... LOL even looks more solider then the real steel.. I'm impressed! :cheers:

Might have too save up and get one... :-D

another quick question..
is that whats called "metal body".. or?
thanks
edit:
2 more questions
- how big/long is the gun?
- arent the batteries included?

Yes it's a metal body, dunno the actual length, but I'd assume it's very close to the real steel equivilent, and batteries are rarely (never to my knowledge) included. Especially if it's not specified.

The gun takes 2 AA (Double A) Batteries. They are put in the pistol grip. These can be picked up..uhm..anywhere really.

are u sure?.. because mcguyver said:
also, the batteries are usually in the shoulder 'thing' .. and the motor is in the grip..
thanks anyway
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.....Uhh Psycho.... he was being a smart ass.

And lots of guns put them in the forestock too ;), but no, most guns don't come with a battery, you have to purchase that seperately. Are you sure you've read the site?

mcguyver, have you tried installing any optics yet? I'm hearing that side rail is there just for looks. Scopes don't fit it properly.

oh ok... yes i have been active here for over a month .. read all the FAQ topics and all that.. but i must've missed the battery part..
anyway.. thanks

i sure hope that scope mount isn't just for looks, i got a kobra comming in a couple weeks...

I have r/s PSO1 scope, so if anybody in Toronto already got their hands on this AK we can do a test, see if my scope will fit.
I'm trying to find out where that info came from. It was posted on Russian airsoft board but no source was given.
Edit: here's the link. http://www.red-alliance.net/phpBB2/v...?p=32639#32639

I don't have their scope mount yet, or any other AK mount to check it with. As soon as I come across one, I'll post it up. Maybe if I see one in Vancouver this weekend, I can give it a try.

I should be able to try it out on Saturday.

mine died after 15 rounds. dissassmbled he grip, removed the motor, checked the connections and reassembled. works now...tommorow, the 400fps upgrade.

hmm interesting. SO are you guys having that problem with the receiver cover popping out because the selector switch is hitting it?

Hasn't happened to me yet. But I have heard it's happened to others. All I can say is make sure the top cover is properly attached and secured with the pushbutton.

I had to superglue small piece of metal at the bottom of receiver release pushbutton, works so far. From a look of it the hole in top receiver is a bit too big on mine...

ok, well, my motor is acting up.
I stated above that it failed after 15 rounds, but after exposing the motor, it started working again.
Well, was gonna break in the hopup today, but after a dozen rounds, it died again. removed the mechbox and tested the wiring. Motor seems to be the problem. Its the turbo 2000, might explain why the offical batches of AKs are released witht he turbo 3000.

holy crap thats not good. But how hard is changing the motor?

Had the same problem with the motor of my m4a1... Magnets inside the motor where not properly glued... They detached themselve from the casing, blocking the rotor.
I Replaced it with a TM EG1000

a motor swamp is very easy.
I emailed DEA explaining the problem.
the 1st batch of ICS AKs obiously shipped with less then perfect motors, thats why the AK officially ships with the turbo 3000. Some on Arnies have had problems already with their AKs also.

Oh, cuss i thought they can take ICS motors only.

Are all of you planning to swap your 2000 motors?

well, i shouldnt say the turbo 2000s in the AKs are bad, but I have heard of problems...and voila, mine is fubar.
now for the waiting game

I guess this is a bit off topic, but have anyone here tried the CA version? If so, anyone care to do a comparison?

I have both. The SLR105A1 by C.A. is a nice gun, but the ICS is still the winner IMHO. The ICS has a very balanced, solid "feel" to it and has some nice touches like the fully retractable bolt and disassembly is much easier on the ICS.

My C.A. is a little quirky.You can't rapid fire in semi as the trigger is really slow to return, but works fine in full auto. I haven't had time to look at the problem yet and it could be something really quick and easy to fix, or maybe not. The best I can hope for now is 1 shot every 5 to 6 seconds. ICS works fine.

Parts like the bolt cover are not interchangeable though between Marui, C.A. and ICS (tried that already).

Curious, dunno if anyone's tried it... but would the whole mechbox/motor assembly be swappable (as a whole) with a TM box/motor?

I do believe so. Sure looks like ICS made a copy of the Marui. But then you'd have a shiny silver look if you pull back the bolt (unless Krylon is your friend).

hey'd i'd gladly paint it black and even airbrush in a 7.62x39 for effect if it saves me grief.

I guess I'll wait to see more opinions of the "final version" with the 3000 motor and all when ppl start using it/upgrading it.

quick video of the bolt
sorry about the background noise
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new to airsoft and wundering if its difficult to set the hop up

On this gun, NO. It's very easy and has a wide range. If your wondering about other guns, that's another matter.

ist possible to replace the shoulder thing and the grip.. and the other thing [sorry idont know what they r called] with wood.. to make it look like TM's ak style?
and do u have more pics for us.. i cant get enough of it.. thats 1 sexy weapon..

no reason why not.

Not without some extensive modifications. The mounting system for the 47 stock and grip is totally different. Besides, why would you want to do that anyway? Black has been the AK fashion for only about 30 years now.

There's still plenty of AK's in the Russian Federation with wooden furniture. I've even seen pics of old AKM's in use in Chechnya. Plus with the orange bakelite mags the 74's look friggin' ace.

i donno i kinda like the wood over the black in some case's
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like right there is a good reason to have wood.

you mean the newer batch of ICS ak-74m will come with the turbo3000 motor instead of turbo200,right?

When can we get them(the "final version" with turbo3000)?

I am going to get this gun when they are come with turbo3000 motor as standard.

Any information would be appreciated.

Is the motor a long or short type? What is a good replacement for the turbo 2000?

according to ICS, the Ak shipped with the turbo 3000 fromt he start. But word has it, the 1st couple hundred models were testers. Fine, other then the motor. Any AKs shipped to canada since should have the new motor, but ask your retailer 1st.

its a short AK type motor
and the turbo 3000 should be a fine replacment.

Droc, I want to make my AK74, my outdoor gun. What would you do to upgrade? Not to jack this thread, sry.

Thanks!

spring
tightbore if you want

I recommend a Prometheus Non-Liner Spring MS120SP

thats really all you need. the gears are good quality, and it already has metal bushings.

if you wanted to spend a few more bucks, a bearing spring guide and a new piston head maby.

Thanks :cheers:

Got my ak-74m (newer batch)

ics 3000 super torque motor

1) New Turbo 3000 Super Torque Motor

2) Precision Cut Reinforced Motor Pinion Gear

3. Precision Cut Reinforced No.1 (Bevel) Gear.

4. Steel Bushing, Made of harden silicon alloy.

5. Low resistance 16-AWG Electric wire.

copied and pasted from www.evike.com they're selling the newer ak-74m batch for 300 dollars for battery,charger,2mags,aeg,1000 0.2 bbs,loader and cleaning rod

chronoed 330 with .2 when i used hopup (stock non upgraded)

no wind and very sunny.

tested it in a war in a field close to my house. 4 on 4 battle and my team won =D

we had

Me ICS AK-74M

Skye Tokyo Marui m733

Nick 2 ICS mp5a5

Kengo UTG sniper
(i am the oldest in the group)

other team used only 1 gun over 200 dollars and all others were 50-100
=D

the money spent on our guns we're gathered together from my group and took us 2 years to get the entire gun set (including some gas pistols and m11 fauto guns)

i got 400 dollars each year from new years so it wasn't so hard

EDIT: also if i may add i upgraded the stock piston and piston head with guarder poly carb and a systema m120 spring and upgraded the cylinder with guarder lucid head and and matrix gi yand cylinder head.

over all the fps is great and pops full soda cans easily

made a dent in my friends old well r-6
and 2 of his fingers were bleeding (1 from the finger nail) and his left hand's pinky nuckle was bleeding also
(Extreme bloody knuckles)

ok im planning on buying this gun at evike. I want the ak-74m as my first high quality gun but im still unsure...would you recommend this gun or something else?

http://www.evike.com/Merchant2/merch...y_Code=AEG_ICS

ya its a good gun. If you look at the first page you would find a review.

the turbo 3000 motor and the reinforced gearbox make it highly upgradeable and also very quick firing

the gun in evike is the newer one and they give you battery and charger for free =D

I have the turbo 3000

http://www.evike.com/Merchant2/merc...ry_Code=AEG_ICS

That canadian or US site tho?

Its a US site. They might not know our laws, so they wanted to share it with use.

Damn, k thx

the canadian retailers are listed at the top of this website.

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Hey, I ordered the Ak74 this week from M1 airsoft. Now im not 100% which motor it comes with since It might be an old version motor (2000), instead of the (3000) motor.

Im actually getting kinda scared with receiving thois product now, because if the 2000 motor is in the gun then I have no clue what to do. And so I hope everything is alright.

Anyone order the Ak74 off M1 Airsoft recently and know what motor is in it???

Please let me know ASAP THANKS!!!

I just placed an order for a new version from DEA and all he has is the new version apparently. You can always contact them and find out. M1 is aprt of this "Airsoft Alliance" thing, so perhaps you'll get the new version as well.

Alright thx...I guess I will call tomorrow, or just wait till it comes...cause i cant do anything about it right now. But I hope its a new one, so we will see.

I got my ICS AK74 yesterday.

Very solid. Shoots very well too.

Give you guys some feedback when I field it next.

Thanks for the initial review and comments guys.

I got mine a few days ago,and the gun is very solid.
However,the stock is not as strong as i thought,it could be better.
Other than that,it is a very nice weapon .

Hey yeah...just waititng for mine to come...

I heard it will come tomorrow or thursday.

Got a 1700mah battery nicad to test it out with. Hopefully it will go alright.

I heard many ICS products have problems, and I hope this ICS Ak74M is the exception.

Has anyone else had any problems lately??? (Clips, battery death, etc)

Let me know. THX

First of all,you can ask them which motor you are getting?
If you receive a ak74m with turbo2000,you can buy a turbo3000 motor and replace it.
PS:turbo2000 should be a fine motor as well,you can use the gun for a while and decide if you really need to upgrade or not.

According to them, they say the 3000 motor is in the AK, just wondering if there are any other problems, or anything else.

Also which bb's u recommend (if youve tried multiple companies) that work the best.

Mine got in yesterday. No creak or wobble on most parts, yet the upper receiver and front handle may rattle a little when the gun is hardly swung around. Very heavy, wouldn't use it one-handed!

Got STAR Ak-47 mags and the two ICS hicap. The star mags works flawlessly with a tight fit. The ICS hicaps are a little tricky: they seem to not always seal on the nozzle in the magwell so the bb don't always feed properly. I don't know if I just got a finicky mag as the other one fed well when pushed tight and held in the magwell (the fitting is not as tight as with the star mags and it seems to me that the hicap is kind of "falling down" little as if the mag release system didn't held it right).

The hop-up is idiot-proof easy to adjust as well as very sensitive. I think I'll be able to figure some 2 or 3 point sling as you got a ring on the stock and a smaller one on the front handle just before the outer barrel.

I also bought the ICS scope mount. Easy to install as one-two-three as the mount base is already riveted to the frame. The sights were easily adjustable without using excessive strenght ( the tool worked well ). A negative point is that the plastic parts have a fragile finish: it is very easy to scratch the stock or handle. The mat finish seems less durable than my TM famas one. At first the gun looks wery hermetic, without major way in for rubble and dust, but remember that scrap can come in under the upper receiver when you take the fire selector down to semi or auto.

I used Excel and ICS bb's without any problem. I didn't chronoed it, but had at least 60 feet (I don't judge that well) of effective range on a rainy slightly windy day.

I'll be working on a wood kit fot it this summer... giving it a AK-47 look...

1.May i ask you that where you got your ICS scope mount?

2.My two hicaps got the same feeding problem you mentioned.Both of them only feed 1 or 2 bbs,and they stop feeding unless i hold the magazine to the magwell by my hand.The mag release system didn't held the magazine right(not tight enough).Since i can't always use one hand to hold the magazine when i am shooting.The gun is practically unusable out of the box due to the feeding problem.
I sent the gun back for a new one(hopefull the new one doesn't have the same problem.)

3.Everything is very solid in this gun except the stock.
The stock is made of thin plastic, it is kinda of fragile.
I don't have a TM AK,so i can't compare them.
My TM M14 full stock is much much more stronger compared to this one.
I plan to replace the stock sometimes.any recommendation?

4.I use KSC 0.20g and 0.25g BBs,they are all high quality products.
I also heared that Systema 0.20g 6mm Premium BBs are pretty good,and I will give them a try later.

I have yet to encounter this problem, and I have smashed this gun around quite a bit while playing, so it may have been just the first batch that were made.

Not really,I received my gun last Friday,and the gun is the newer version with turbo 3000 motor and imporved wiring. The gun looks very good,too bad it doesn't shoot bbs properly. :rrr: .
Anyways,I will probably get a new one this week or early next week. I asked the retailer to test it and make sure the new one won't have any sort of problems.

I bought the scope mount from Double Edge airsoft at the same time than the AK itself.

You can find the same mount on WGC.

I believe that I will be able to get the mags to stay tight... nothing hockey tape can't fix I think. If you shoot your AEG upside down (the trigger to the sky) you won't have the feeding problem, so try pushing the mag further when you insert it.

You may find the stock fragile or shaky, but I believe it is strong enough for normal wear and use: no one uses airsoft AEG to club his opponent behind the head. I also don't think that the stock is that likely to break as it is (I believe) the body that takes most of the stress and twisting; being metal, the ICS body will not break or crack.

My short review still states that this is a good rifle, given that the mag feeding problem is temporary.

Thanks. :salute:
I found the ICS Ak scope mount on WGC and UNcompy.
Double Edge no loner have it in stock.

This gun is definitely worth buying. I think the one i received is defective.
I would still recommend this gun to anyone. :cheers:

Yes,the feeding problem can be fixed by tape temporarily .I tried to use some hockey tape to fix the problem,and it become loose and stop feeding again after a while.

I also tried to shoot my gun upside down,but it still have the feeding problem.
I think it is because the magwell doesn't line up properly.BBs got stucked in the middle of somewhere.I also lubed the magwell, and it didn't help either.
PS:You can't shoot your AEG upside down (the trigger to the sky) all the time.can you?That would be too funny to watch. :D

The gun is brand new.It should work well out of the box.The feeding problem is not a big deal,but it really bothers me a lot. I just give up trying to fix it. :smack:

I will let you guys know how the new one performs once i receive it.

Update:I just receive another one from retailer(by the way:I bought this guy from Double Edge Airsoft,and their customer service is excellent).This one is perfect.Absluately nothing wrong with it. :-)

well I just put my ms120s spring in and the motor won't compress the spring? I charged the battery (9.6 1700 mah). New systema torqe up motor, advice?

Bigger battery. 3000mah should do nicely.

Hey Guys,

Have any of you got a manual or catalog with the gun... I did not have any documentation in the box. only the gun and its accessories.

Regards,

AK74M TESTED!!!
 

Well everyone.....

I just got my ICS Ak74M this morning and wanted to try it out..

Realised I had to charge the battery first though.

So after 1 hr of desperate waititng, I went outside set everything up and starting aiming for that middle dot in the target. At first , bb's wern't hitting, but after 1 min of hop up changes, they were flying perfectly straight.

So far there hasnt been any problems with the fring or loading of any of the bb's (that were included with the gun). Havnt tried my bb's yet that were obught on the side.

So all of you looking to get this gun, I have to say its pretty spectacular, and on the bright side ou get 2 high mag clips(even though u have to wind it up maybe once between unloading a full clip).

So as everything stands right now, It's all good. Gotta do some more testing, and try the NIMH battery to see if it makes any difference from the NICAD...but as for now, thats all I can write about this product.

One more thing...I would think about loading a new spring in it 150%, to most likely shoot a little faster in terms of FPS. But thats another day, and another challenge. As for now, everything is good to go, and looking forward to the game on the 13th at Flag Raiders. First time for everything I guess!!!

If you have any questions, feel free to reply or PM me. Hopefully all your answers will be answered.

Thanks!!!

I still don't get why they don't accept STAR Ak74 magazines. Also my bb's seems to lean on the left side..why is that.. and how do i fix it?

Check front sights - they might be off, kinda rotating on the barrel... I had to glue mine on to avoid that "leaning"...

I just got my Ak-74 last week from Rangers(new version). I shot off both mags of BB's allready with no problems. I have not adjusted sites or hop up yet. just wanted to use the new toy. The gun looks great!! no problems feeding bb's. I was able to fit a 8.4v 7 cell 3300 Ma battery in the stock witch fired the gun very fast. cant wait to take it outside to play.

What i did notice though was that the upper reciever and the dummy cleaning rod are a little loose and if your a little anal this will bother you. But it can be fixed easy with a little shim work.

Hey I just got this gun yesterday ics ak74m; mine has the turbo 3000 in it. I shot about 50 rounds through it with a friends battery and it stopped firing. I then fully charged my battery, nicad 8.4 volt 1800 mah and tried it. I still was unable to fire it. When I put my clip in the gun, I hear like rumbling, like its working, but I cannot fire the gun. Help would be much appreciated.

could be the hop up, try adjusting it. It may be causing the gun to misfeed etc

the gun doesnt even dry fire though

remove the grip and detach the motor from the mechbox, reseat it and try again.

How would I go and reset the motor?

Remove the motor housing from the mechbox entirely (2 screws) with the motor still contained within said housing. See if the motor turns freely and then re-install the housing complete with motor. Put the 2 screws back in, re-install the grip (1 screw) and test the gun.

so am i not taking the motor out? Am i just checking to see if the motor rotates?

Does anyone have a photo of the inner gear box? I have one spring that I cannot find a place for and a proper photo would help.Thanks

Hicap issue
 

I played all day today with one of my ICS hicap and had no feeding problems. I think the issue is that I didn't inserted it deep enough first hand so the seal wasn't tight between mag and gun. So don't desesperate and keep driving the mag further so that it sits tight in the magwell, it should feed. I'm still going to tape the sides of the loosy mag tough.

Yet, I noticed that the little lever to release the mag is not that tight and seems to go down a few millimeters when a mag is inserted. I'd like to know if there's a peculiar way to adjust the mag release... Does anyone has some input here?

Gun works
 

I got my gun working. It turns out that I had a blown fuse. This was only a $1.09 fix at a local hardware store. I inserted it myself too. After that I had no problems. The gun is awesome, I made a target in my basement and am having a fun time. I just cant wait to see it in action at that aco monthly the 21st. Also, does anyone know if I can buy a bipod for the gun?

i am planning to buy this gun at evike's, i am wondering what type of battery does it come with? Just curious thats all.
* planning to buy a 9.6v 3300 large battery. I hear that it is compatible with this gun with modifications?
if true do you have to purchase anything else for the modification?

You can't fit a 9.6v large battery without mods. Stick to an 8.4v 3000mah as it's a perfect fit. The gun runs fine with 8.4v.

well at the airsplat site they said it can fit a 9.6 v with modification
i'm just wondering what is that modification and do i have to purchase anything for it to hold a 9.6v