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rich_drummer May 29th, 2006 17:11

Shooting Blanks
 
Out of general curiosity, can it be harmful to shoot too many blank shots with an aeg :?

MadMax May 29th, 2006 17:17

beats the sh*t out of your gearbox shell. Perhaps not an issue with V3+, but definitely not good for V2. I can measure a significant increase in impact delivered to the mechbox when dryfiring without pellets.

Other than that, you probably incur the same kind of wear to everything else in your AEG mechbox.

rich_drummer May 29th, 2006 17:25

Im assuming that it would take quite a bit of blank shots to have a noticeable effect on the gearbox/mech, right? I just got a new aeg and have been having a bit too much fun perhaps... :smack:

Mr Jon May 29th, 2006 17:35

Well if you can afford an AEG, im sure you could afford a bag of BB's. 20$ get's you 2500 rounds. Get yourself a cardboard box, and some padding to build a BB trap and have fun, it's less stress on your internals and provides hours of shooting goodness.

LUTNIT May 29th, 2006 17:48

I cant count the number of times I've put a stack of boxes out on the curb on recylcing day that where filled with holes and had BB's all through out them. I just flatten a few boxes and stick them all in a larger box, the BB's stop somewhere inbetween the boxes and just fall into the larger box they are all sitting in.

rich_drummer May 29th, 2006 17:49

ya, ive been shooting bbs too, but also been running round the basement shooting blanks for fun with the initial excitement of a new aeg, haha. oops!

MinusII May 29th, 2006 18:02

You can fire blankly as long as something is providing resistance at the end of the barrel. Like if you have the red cover on it (that comes with the gun). or a BFA (blank firing attatchment, like those that come withe G&G rifles). it should be fine. Or at least thats to my knowledge.

Minus.

MadMax May 29th, 2006 18:10

I'm fairly certain that the end cap does not provide adequate restriction to reduce mechbox impact. What model AEG are you firing? The V2 builds (MP5, Crapalite, G3) are prone to mechbox fatigue. I don't know if it's a serious issue with the stock spring though as I don't know of any stock AEGs breaking a gearbox, but I hear about only a small fraction of failures in the world.

Your first AEG can be a lot of fun. I blasted off a lot of dryfire shots when I got my first gun.

Whozat May 29th, 2006 18:15

This threads about dryfiring? I thought from your title that you were looking for advise on puberty. :-D

DuffMan May 29th, 2006 18:26

Wait for the ball bearings to drop

rich_drummer May 29th, 2006 18:44

hahaha . Firing blanks... :lol:

Greylocks May 29th, 2006 19:46

If you 'dry-fire', something will eventually break. So it's up to you. It can happen in months, or in hours.
The repairs can be extremely expensive. It's your money.

Silent-A May 29th, 2006 19:52

:confused: So, if I use lowcaps, I multiply by like 50 time the chance of breaking my AEG?... That's really bad, but on another side, it would force me to count my fired BBs..

Greylocks May 29th, 2006 20:55

No... dry-firing means shooting the gun with no ammo at all. Try Google.

Amgoosen May 29th, 2006 20:57

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Originally Posted by Greylocks
No... dry-firing means shooting the gun with no ammo at all. Try Google.

I think hes referring to the times when the lowcap runs out and you fire a few dry shots before you realize your out and reload. As where this would happen far less often with a hicap.

MinusII May 29th, 2006 21:24

Well that's bound to happen. Just don't make dry-firing a habit, and you should be fine. (until the mechbox slowly wears down..but we're all in the same boat then)

Silent-A May 29th, 2006 21:49

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Originally Posted by Amgoosen
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Originally Posted by Greylocks
No... dry-firing means shooting the gun with no ammo at all. Try Google.

I think hes referring to the times when the lowcap runs out and you fire a few dry shots before you realize your out and reload. As where this would happen far less often with a hicap.

Exactly

Your a little too much involved in your anti-nubs slayer thing grey :( No offense

Thanks for the answer @Minus

14K May 29th, 2006 22:53

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Originally Posted by Whozat
This threads about dryfiring? I thought from your title that you were looking for advise on puberty. :-D


i LOL'ed for that one ahahaha :-D

Greylocks May 30th, 2006 06:24

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Originally Posted by Silent-A
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Originally Posted by Amgoosen
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Originally Posted by Greylocks
No... dry-firing means shooting the gun with no ammo at all. Try Google.

I think hes referring to the times when the lowcap runs out and you fire a few dry shots before you realize your out and reload. As where this would happen far less often with a hicap.

Exactly

Your a little too much involved in your anti-nubs slayer thing grey :( No offense

Thanks for the answer @Minus

Your question does not fit the thread-starter's. He's shooting the gun INTENTIONALLY for shits and giggles. That is really bad for the gun.

What you wrote: "So, if I use lowcaps, I multiply by like 50 time the chance of breaking my AEG?... That's really bad, but on another side, it would force me to count my fired BBs.."

Nobody reads minds. Formulate your point clearly instead of making folks guess what you mean, then you'll get a correct answer.
Dry-firing by mistake (and stopping immediately) is not the issue.
If you would have said; "Will the same thing happen if I use low-caps and miss a few shots when they go empty?", the answer would have come faster.

This is a written forum. Be clear or cope with what folks think they read.

DelTASteve May 30th, 2006 07:54

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Originally Posted by Greylocks

Nobody reads minds.

Miss Cleo does. Oh wait, she's in jail.

But seriously, it won't hurt as long as you don't run around your back yard dry firing for no reason. It won't hurt to dry fire a few times at the end of a mag.

Silent-A May 30th, 2006 07:55

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Originally Posted by Greylocks
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Originally Posted by Silent-A
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Originally Posted by Amgoosen
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Originally Posted by Greylocks
No... dry-firing means shooting the gun with no ammo at all. Try Google.

I think hes referring to the times when the lowcap runs out and you fire a few dry shots before you realize your out and reload. As where this would happen far less often with a hicap.

Exactly

Your a little too much involved in your anti-nubs slayer thing grey :( No offense

Thanks for the answer @Minus

Your question does not fit the thread-starter's. He's shooting the gun INTENTIONALLY for shits and giggles. That is really bad for the gun.

I was not going to start a new thread just beceause it was intentionnally or not. Both things dammage the AEG, but 1-2 times don't seem to be enough to do anything.


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Originally Posted by Greylocks
What you wrote: "So, if I use lowcaps, I multiply by like 50 time the chance of breaking my AEG?... That's really bad, but on another side, it would force me to count my fired BBs.."

Nobody reads minds. Formulate your point clearly instead of making folks guess what you mean, then you'll get a correct answer.
Dry-firing by mistake (and stopping immediately) is not the issue.
If you would have said; "Will the same thing happen if I use low-caps and miss a few shots when they go empty?", the answer would have come faster.

This is a written forum. Be clear or cope with what folks think they read.

Bah, that was the a Link, between Damage due to dry-shooting, and dry-shooting that you get each time you realize that your mag is empty.

And it would be a nice start to reads minds. There's less mistake about things.. And when you talk, you thinks? That's the same things here.

Edit : Oh and by the way, if Minus does, I don't thinks "Nobody reads minds".

longshot May 31st, 2006 08:36

Try dry firing at full auto as often as you like...and you will learn your hard lesson in a hurry. More fun shooting BBs,and practice on your shooting accuracy if you have enough space between you and the intended targets.

Sgt_Falcon_aro May 31st, 2006 10:08

someone did make a bb counter that in theory is awsome and would probably help you if your using low caps 1-99 rounds each mag
i think its a pretty cool idea but if you intend on playing against players i would think youd need to significantly reinforce the led plate
would be interesting to try but i dont have the money for that kind of thing since im saving for my first :)

<Ez-Target> August 11th, 2006 16:10

first of all a couple dry shots at the end of the mag will not hurt your gearbox
but if you are shooting targets with your gun and you dont see any new holes, then its probly a good idea to stop shooting

Mapcinq August 11th, 2006 16:16

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Originally Posted by Greylocks
If you 'dry-fire', something will eventually break. So it's up to you. It can happen in months, or in hours.
The repairs can be extremely expensive. It's your money.

Does this mean my dick can break?!If so, how much do you think the repairs will run me?

ancorp August 11th, 2006 16:55

Well since this is brought back up...

Dryfiring causes piston slam, since there is no resistance in the barrel, the piston slams forward much faster. A plug on the barrel should provide enough resistance, perhaps even too much, so a tiny pinhole in the plug might be in order. Not to be confused with the blank firing attachments on real steel guns (required for the gas pressure to operate the piston, on gas operated automatics).

Cheers,
Alex


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