Airsoft and college
 

Hey guys,
Im writing from the states and I am going to be going to college at Queen's University in Kingston. I have one question, would they let me bring my airsoft gun to school? I would still like to play rather than sell all my stuff when I go to school. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

rofl, oh yea they'll let you have your replica gun in school, not to mention turn their backs while you take it accross the border... How about NO lol, you cant even bring them to canada, so sell them and re buy over here. I really would suggest storing them somewhere off campus as well.

Read the FAQ as to Airsoft in this country, in short, you can't bring your guns over the border.

If you decide to buy kit/guns for while you are up here, I believe that Queens does NOT allow guns in residence. You are more then welcome to have em once you get a house/apt, obviously.

HarleyB here on ASC may be able to answer this better, or help you out on a solution.

Cheers

even if you could, youd just end up selling them for alcohol money.

Queen's residence policy says you can't have replica firearms in your room. What are you going to Queen's for?

WOW that sucks. You can't even keep it at the campus PD? That's what you can normally do down here, but again different laws. Academically, I'm to Queen's to be a history major. As for my reasoning, apperently its a good school.

Heh, yes, I meant "what are you taking?" I'd say it's a good school, I'm currently going into second year there.

Yeah, laws and regulations regarding guns and gun look-a-likes are generally more restrictive in Canada...

Just get a hold of an airsofter in Kingston and keep them there. After selling, and rebuying on this side of the border of course.

Nobody can bust you if no one knows you have them. Keep them in a locked guitar case or something other than a gun case, and never take them out while on campus. There are many tricks for storing alcohol in your dorm, I'm sure you could find one for an AEG. Or 6.

Only the chances of someone calling the police if they see you with alcohol is infinitesimally smaller than if they spotted you with an airsoft gun...

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its an uncommon situation but if you were reasponsible enough to keep them locked and hidden- now that is KEY!! you dont want to show these off and then have some dorm mates open them up and run around campus shooting each other!! they might overlook it. i myself wouldn worry about it because id have the will power to not show them off, but would you? no matter how grey our sport is, it is still a sport and they would honor that, but your still walking the line.

your best bet would be to make friends w/ someone on here (preferablly w/ a good trader rating) close to where youll be living... kinda like a game mate, so you can store your guns at his place, and then go to games together....

I stashed my guns at a friends place when in residence, kept them in my room from time to time but tried not to. Picked em up from a friends place day before the game and brought em back day after. Nearing the end of the year I had a game just before exams and just kept all my guns in my room, M733, M3 shorty, and an M92f. Some friends found out and came over, shot the crap out of my walls (drywall, not cinder blocks :smack: ) but I was never reported.

I did panic at one point as a girls laptop was stolen while the guns where in my room and there was talk of a room search on my floor for the laptop. Search never happened thankfully.

Oh yeah, and if your caught with the guns in residence in Canada, more often than not, your just expelled, no questions asked, at least according to my interpretation of the rules, dont know anyone that its happened to.

Orange tips don't mean anything in Canada. Airsoft is specifically named in customs regulations (down the model names and brand names) as being prohibited to import without the appropriate license. Legally, an orange tip does not change that at all.

Don't repeat that on this site again, please...

This is close to the most stupid advice I've read here this month.

agreed
with all the crazy shit that happens on campus, there is no safe way to store AEGs.

Yes, so in other words, dont attempt to store your guns in residence at all. Dont try to hide it, dont try to sneak them in or out, because if your caught, you'll no doubt be expelled, arrested, guns siezed for having replicas on school grounds and in a public facility, you could end up in jail, and oh look, now your life is over pal, it also could add another point to the complete ban of airsoft as well. So keep them off campus, rent a small storage place somewhere. Or do some of the other methods mentioned, as slong as they are off campus.

You guys know the laws better than I do, so I will take your advice to heart. I guess I just have to research some kind of storage place to keep my guns.

There are people here who live near campus willing to hold onto guns, such as yours truly. Don't fret too much over what's going to happen in Canada, the most damaging thing you could do would be to try to bring what you have over the border. Once you've bought in Canada, you're pretty much in the clear as long as you don't do anything stupid.

Hey Man,

Your facing a number of challenges coming from the states, hopefully this will help.

Sell your AEGs/GBBs/NBBs/Whathave you now, you won't be able to bring them across the border, and attempting to do so will give you the oppertunity to get VERY personal with a border gaurd by the name of Bubba ;).

Seriously though, your best plan at this point is sto sell your Airsoft down there, bring the cash here and buy from a Canadian retailer. As for keeping it in Rez, you have a few options.

This year, I was able to clear keeping these bad boys in my room by my Don, so long as they have proper trigger locks and the case(s) are kept locked at all times. While the printed rules state that you cannot have them on the premises, sometimes talking to your Don will free up some lee-way, allowing you to keep your gear. The biggest factor in deciding this, is what kind of residence is it?

Bring an upperyear student, I'm now in the uber-secure leet tower complex at UTSC, however if your in an older style dorm (The old towers with2 guys to a room, no dividing wall etc), or a townhouse style rez, you may not be able to keep them.

In short once you move in you can bring your kit with you, but talk to your don, then perhaps the Campus PD about what to do with them. Generally speaking Don's and CPDs aren't all gestapo when it comes to this stuff, however should the be a paintball attack, or a number of BBs are spotted on campus, expect a visit from either your Don, or the CPD.

- Mike

All in all I would consider it not worth trying to conceal, or even get permission by a Don. Can a Don even endorse such a thing? Even so you'll be labeled by that Don and maybe others as weird gun crazy guy.

Give your gun to a respectable airsofter near you such as haryleyb (basing this purely on his amount of posts and trader rating :D ). Then after first year try and get an offcampus residence with a bunch of mates. Don't know how it goes over at your Uni, but here at mac most people have to move offcampus after 1st year. Then it'll likely be less trouble storing your stuff. Even better get you parents to buy a house for you and rent it to your mates, like in my case :tup: , if money and spoiling parents permit.

Not when you suckerd the Don into playing. Owned ;). In all seriousness though, if you want to approach your Don, or Rez Advisor (not sure what they are called at Queens), don't be an idiot, carefully explain what airsoft is, and chances are you'll be fine. The worst thing that can happen is they say no, then you can either store kit at a friends place off-campus, or look into other storage options.

My intent is to store things I have posted for sale at my Rez location, but leave the rest at home (assuming i'll have a chance to stop there on the way out to a game). Seriously though, don't try to just sneak them in, its not worth it.

The absolute best thing you can do, imho, is full disclosure; make sure all the higher ups know exactly what you're talking about. Once they've been informed and they've made a decision, follow their instructions to the letter.

There is nothing worse than having a misunderstanding about something as volatile as airsoft guns, especially at such a sensitive time.

Speaking From Experiance.
 

Hey there...

I went to mohawk college, stayed in res.

College residences are a scaled down prison. NO they will not allow anything of the sort into thier doors, and dont even fucking THINK of trying to sneak it in.

Too much money to risk.

Your first problem; the Canada/US Border. Dont forget about that one because it's unforgiving. It would really suck if you got barred at the border. Forget your studies up here for starters.

Your second problem; residence. Since you are not (I guess here) a Canadian citizen, anything like this found in your dorm is a ticket back home at the very least.

Dont try your luck, you cant afford the consequences.

Sorry I havent been on in awhile because I am in college in kingston, St. Lawrence,

Now since I have friends living in Res there, I know that in the rule book you CANT have any kind of weapons. Fantasy swords, blowguns,BB guns or anything and if caught you can (have seen it) be kicked out of Res and you will be brought to the head of the college and possibly kick out of school for violating the rules.
This is a college, I can only imagine the rules on queens.

I just want to warn you bud, I dont want a bad name for airsoft in kingston even though there is a small number of us. Hopefully after im done school I will be back into this sport.

Anyways If need be I can probably store here in my apt. Proper trigger locks, case would be needed though.

Otherwise http://www.martingroup.ca/mps.html Martins Storage, Just down the road from me, Family has used them and are pretty good, price wasnt bad last time I remember
http://www.access-storage.com/access_storage.htm Havent used these guys

But these are a couple places in kingston. Not to be like a broken record, but like everyone is saying, sell your guns buy in canada. The classified section is helpful here gives you and idea for used weapons and then to the top we have our retailers which are usually pretty good but if your nervous just post a message and ask about them.

Anyways, hopefully we meet someday and goto a game, till then catch you later.

Completely agree, they tell you you can't have beer bottles, knives, gun replicas, drugs, and anything else illegal or semi illegal or just bad by their standards, but if you aren't stupid with it and hide it and not play with it on campus you'll be fine.i had a sword in first year, just kept it in my closet, t'was fine.

That made it to the MOST STUPID ADVICE OF THE WEEK list. Bravo for suggesting breaking rules and laws.

I dont suggest breaking laws. Not storing replica firearms on campus is only school policy, not the law. I only offered that as an option. Personally it's one that I wouldn't try, but I was just throwing it out there as a possibility. Knives, drugs and other things though, you're pushing it.

oh right. So a knife is pushing it, but a 1:1 replica assault rifle isnt?

Hiding an assault rifle on campus is possibly one of the stupidest ideas i have heard.
I know common sense isnt very common, but use your flippin brain people.

Why do I get the feeling that a certain guy's age-verification process around Ottawa may be difficult?

First off like everyone else is that was dumb idea!!!

Second, if he has a large gun... Sniper rifle can you explain how he will "sneak" past the front desk? PLus the security cameras in Res? Oh yeah take it apart right, not a problem, can you take apart a gun case and make it look like a suit case?

You can have alcohol, but they cant be in glass bottles and there is a limit, we were using water bottles. Plus on that day we got a noise complaint and they came into the room to see what was up as well as searched the place. Nothing was found because all we had was some booze. And we dont do drugs so.

YES dont do anything stupid, like breaking the rules for the school. So what your also saying is he should risk the chance of being kicked out of school, loosing tuition money probably more than what all his guns are worth, just to store them in his dorm ?

I dont know who the rep for ottawa is but please do not give that guy a chance to by a weapon, I smell trouble already.(Lyphe, and who ever Rep for Ghostsnake should be reconsidered)


ANYWAYS bud Just be smart, Sell you weapons, Rent or store them in a kingston players place, IF you need to buy weapons then just have them sent to one of the kingston players house, Im sure no one will mind, I wont as long as you let me peak lol.

OHHH look what I found...
https://housing.queensu.ca/residence/lir/33003e.asp General ruling,

http://www.queensu.ca/security/news/weappol.html Ruling for WEAPONS

For the people that dont want to read-

1. Weapons Policy
Queen’s University promotes the highest level of safety and security in all of its activities.

Accordingly, no person, while on property controlled or owned by Queen's University, shall store or carry a weapon. A weapon is defined as a manufactured device designed to injure or kill another being, or a device designed to look like a weapon. Examples of weapons include, but are not limited to, firearms, explosives (including fireworks), air guns, pellet guns, BB guns, crossbows, long bows, swords, martial arts weapons, prohibited blades, hunting or fishing knifes, brass knuckles, replica or imitation firearms or any prohibited device as defined by the Criminal Code of Canada, such as pipe bombs.

3. Unauthorized weapons on campus

Campus Security will seize any unauthorized weapons found on campus for which there is not written authorization (see 2b). The weapons will be returned to the owner/user once either authorization has been received or the owner has arranged to have them stored permanently off campus. Firearms will be immediately turned over to the Kingston Police, as Campus Security has no secure firearms storage facility.

Individuals in possession of unauthorized weapons on campus may also be subject to disciplinary action up to and including expulsion from the University or termination of employment, depending on the circumstances. In the case of prohibited or non-registered firearms and other illegal weapons, the individual may also be subject to criminal prosecution.

EDIT: Unless Marrius needs any more information he can email one of us Kingston players, I think this thread can be locked before someone else gives stupid Ideas Please

Basically don't do it. If you do, be prepared to suffer the consequences.

Dude, fuck you. Yes, it was a stupid idea, and I know that now. I knew that very shortly after posting it. I dont go to Queens. I didn't know Queen's policy on the matter. I figured it would just be frowned upon. If I knew expulsion was a possibility I never would have said it. I've seen many pics/videos of people with airsoft guns in their dorms. And not just storing them, but actually using them. How the fuck was I supposed to know Queen's was any different? So kiss my ass, and oh, did I mention, FUCK YOU.

so im totally sure I wont keep my gun in residence, but do you guys think i can keep my gear (i.e. CIRAS and multicam, ect...)in my dorm?

Gear is considered clothing, so there shouldnt be a problem with it, but that doesnt mean go parading around in military style clothing.

As for the gun storage; No.

And guys, lighten up. Not everyone follows the rules, so you hear about people with the guns on campus and playing with them in their dorms, so he wasnt exactly sure.

A wiseman once said that when in doubt dont post at all, when you realize you posted and then realize what you said was dumb delete said post (cant delete ask a mod).

No need to start cussing and cursing others who honestly have not cussed and cursed you out is poor form.

Question has been answered, locking post now before anyone else decides to have a bad day.