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Bryce132 June 20th, 2006 21:02

MP5-J
 
Hows this for a starting off AEG?
If not, I want a 300+ FPS Rifle with Semi-auto selectable, metal gear box, but not extremly expensive. Hows this do?
Only thing i would need to upgrade would be a new Toko Marui MP5 Tightbore barrel eh?

Greylocks June 20th, 2006 21:11

Do some reading about Cyma guns, then decide if you want to waste your money.

Amgoosen June 20th, 2006 21:13

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Originally Posted by Bryce132
Hows this for a starting off AEG?
If not, I want a 300+ FPS Rifle with Semi-auto selectable, metal gear box, but not extremly expensive. Hows this do?
Only thing i would need to upgrade would be a new Toko Marui MP5 Tightbore barrel eh?

No, get a TM at the bear minimum, Cyma just doesnt cut it.

Bryce132 June 20th, 2006 21:21

Alright, I was thinking that.

The Saint June 20th, 2006 21:36

Well, to be honest:

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Originally Posted by Bryce132
300+ FPS Rifle

Only TM rifle that'll shoot over 300 stock is the M14. The more common brands whose guns will shoot over 300 stock are Classic Army and Star (plus a few other less common), who don't offer guns anywhere near Cyma.

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with Semi-auto selectable
That's a give on any real AEG.

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metal gear box
See above (with the exception of Star and their polycarb boxes).

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but not extremly expensive
You get what you've paid for is as true with airsoft as anything else if not more so. For a solid AEG, the cheapest you're looking at around $350 (TM's MP5K) or UTG if you really want to push it. Other than the AIM M4A1 and that Cyma you linked, you're not going to get a 300fps+ AEG for under $499.

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Only thing i would need to upgrade would be a new Toko Marui MP5 Tightbore barrel eh?
I'd play with the gun first before thinking about changing anything inside.

Bob the Angry Potato June 20th, 2006 21:53

First-

I was talking to Sam about these, and several other folks. These are fairly new, and are attracting quite a bit of attention overseas (much less lemon-rate then UTG, higher velocity, et cetera). I can also say Sam isn't lying about the velocity.

Guys,
Please, give this the benefit of the doubt. None of you have seen this one yet, it was only released a few months ago in America, and about a year ago overseas.

Bryce,

I advise you go to www.arniesairsoft.co.uk to look up info on it. Many folks there have it and love it, a few of them even have the Marui counterpart to compare it to (one of them, Gunlady, has the CYMA AK and MP5 and the Marui counterparts to both of them. For the AK one, she's been getting better range with the CYMA, not sure about the MP5).

Marui will always be better, but at least give it the benefit of the doubt.

Kid June 20th, 2006 21:54

Before you make your final decision,

I suggest you email Sam, the owner of BC Airsoft. He's quite good and has got great service. He'll give you his thoughts on the guns.

I can't see them being worse than UTG and it worked well.

Bob the Angry Potato June 20th, 2006 21:58

BTW,
He's 16.

sam0182 June 20th, 2006 22:03

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Originally Posted by Greylocks
Do some reading about Cyma guns, then decide if you want to waste your money.

Come on, Grey...

CYMA has released a few, metal gearbox AEG's that have received quite the nod for entry level packages.

And yes, they all do shoot 300+ FPS w/.20 bb's out of the box.

Do you get what you pay for? Yes, absolutely. Except, in the past year or so, it seems one is getting just a little more for what their paying;)

Here's some links for YOUR reading on the past CYMA releases. No, it's not up to par with TM, CA, and/or ICS - but...it's a very decent starting platform and at the $250 CAD range for the GUN, Battery, Charger, Hi-Cap mag, etc...it can't be beat.

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums...p?topic=6400.0

http://myhobbyhq.com/airsoftblog/?p=67

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/review...php?product=90

And like the other posters already said, there is plenty more info available at Arnies. A couple retailers (gunneraisoft in HK for one) took the CYMA inside out and brought the camera with them - lots of internal pics, etc. etc.

Edit for SP

Bryce132 June 20th, 2006 23:00

Alright, thanks for the info guys. I am currently making an account on that website, and doing more reserach upon which AEG I truley want.
I have it Narrowed down to:
UTG
TM MP5
Or the CYMA

aZn_triXta07 June 20th, 2006 23:19

Hold up on the CYMA until next week, mine should be arriving and I'll write up my own review about it.

EDIT- I've owned a TM MP5-SD5 before so I am quite interested as the majority of reviews have said this is the best 1:1 TM Clone currently. This one looks real promising with full metal gearbox, full metal front, and 300+fps.

Russianboy June 20th, 2006 23:34

Get the TM man. Thats all I have to say.

Kid June 20th, 2006 23:40

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Originally Posted by Russianboy
Get the TM man. Thats all I have to say.

I have to ask, exacly how many AEGs have you owned and which brands?

Please... Don't tell me none. :lol:

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Don't take me wrong, I'm not meaning to insult you because of your LD though....

Dustball June 20th, 2006 23:57

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Originally Posted by Kid
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russianboy
Get the TM man. Thats all I have to say.

I have to ask, exacly how many AEGs have you owned and which brands?

Please... Don't tell me none. :lol:

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Don't take me wrong, I'm not meaning to insult you because of your LD though....

Well, at the age of 13, he certainly has a lot of access to a lot of AEG's to compare with. :rolleyes:

Greylocks June 21st, 2006 06:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryce132
Alright, thanks for the info guys. I am currently making an account on that website, and doing more reserach upon which AEG I truley want.
I have it Narrowed down to:
UTG
TM MP5
Or the CYMA

TM, and do some research about the age requirements. It will save you money and grief.

Bryce132 June 21st, 2006 11:12

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Originally Posted by aZn_triXta07
Hold up on the CYMA until next week, mine should be arriving and I'll write up my own review about it.

EDIT- I've owned a TM MP5-SD5 before so I am quite interested as the majority of reviews have said this is the best 1:1 TM Clone currently. This one looks real promising with full metal gearbox, full metal front, and 300+fps.

Alright, looking forward to it.

Greylocks June 21st, 2006 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryce132
Alright, thanks for the info guys. I am currently making an account on that website, and doing more reserach upon which AEG I truley want.
I have it Narrowed down to:
UTG
TM MP5
Or the CYMA

Your primary problem; you are 15. Please, again, read up on the age-requirements.

active1x0 June 21st, 2006 13:01

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Originally Posted by Russianboy
Get the TM man. Thats all I have to say.

Really, really informative. Great job.

Bryce - if you're looking for a cheap entry-level gun, UTG is a reliable bet. I've handled and fired one. The finish is plastic and very *very* budget, but the internals are comparable to a TM mechbox, and it's a fairly sturdy build. It's even got a working (but non-functional) cocking lever, which is quite fun.

And also, you're only 15, so you should probably wait to buy any sort of airsoft gun until you hit that 18 mark.

Moderate June 21st, 2006 15:41

A&A seems to have a fair assortment of Cyma guns as well.
Just started working, and not sure if I should go with TM or Cyma.

Wood Comparison:

Stock Cyma AK Folding Stock

TM AK-47S

It'll be about another week before I can afford either, so hopefully someone can put out some recent info on the new Cyma Generation (At risk of being disowned from ASC :-D )

P.S.
Here's a translated review on the cyma AK47S
Clickety

EDIT: Yeah, I know this isn't about the MP5-J, but it's the same brand of recent guns to hit the market.

Greylocks June 21st, 2006 17:07

Got to love advice from other under-aged folks or people who have not even checked the laws of this country...

Rumpel Felt June 21st, 2006 17:24

He is no worse than those who say "but TM" right away and haven't even tried other brands that are better.

Well, mabey just a little worse 'cause he's already brainwashed and doesn't even have one.


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