Ka-Bar, or Khukuri?
 

I am wondering which i shoud get? a real Ka-Bar runs the gambit of $40-120...while a Khukuri is a bit more expensive ($60-$500 from what i have seen)it is also a bit more efficent (a Ghurka Knife for the Un-informed). I do alot of camping/hunting, and need advise on which style to get. My attire for Airsoft is pretty much a collection of things i have been given/purchased, and i dont really care how dumb carrying a Khukuri actually is, what i care about is how it functions, and being informed induviduals (mostly) i would like personal opinions on these two types of combat knife.

(Pics Avalible on request if needed for an idea what either knife is)

*note: this is in no way related to being a tard on the feild and getting "Knife Kills", but is related to airsoft as both are known by players and even sometimes worn in some matches in airsoft for realism.

I'm going to come at this from the perspective of hunting/camping/fishing. Ka-bar.

Why- It is good for gutting (As for slicing open and shape is more convenient for cutting around inside the cuts) as well as being adaptable to a filleting knife. The Khukuri is much worse at filleting. Any knife of that shape is. There's a very specific skill required to fillet with that thing. (yes I called it a thing). The Kabar is a good... multi-tool. It's functional for lots of different things whereas the Khukuri just... looks cool.

The Khukuri is most effective as a weapon- used in an attack or as slicing a throat..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khukuri <- I found this to go with what I'm saying.

Looks cool vs functional.

The Ka-bar= The knife's success can be attributed to its balance of weight, length, and price. <- taken from Wiki again. It is definetly a more practical blade.

They both are cool so it's LCF+Practical V.S LCF+Slice a man open....

Your call...

Megan

Kbar hands down. The more common decision is Hatchet or Machete, whick is when most in the know folks get a kukri. But for camping In temparate North america, KBar by design function and quality.
Cheers

IMHO carrying knives in airsoft should be for a reason. I carry a swiss army knife for utility purposes, and a fold out, black-bladed hunting knife for quick gear modifications(straps tangled, or spur of the moment goggle modification) and other situations where the basic swiss army blade doesnt do the trick.
Generally large blades like the Khukuri arnt a great idea in airsoft because they dont server much purpose and aside from being in its sheth, serves no purpose other then looks.
I have played in games and have been doing ambush scenarios and have allowed the enemy to get within arms reach before eliminating them. Last thing I want is someone to pull out a large blade and start clearing that bush....especially that bush that looks somewhat like cadpat.
"oh shit"
"what?"
"I was clearing some of that long grass with my machete"
"yah?"
"and it turns out there was a ghillied sniper in there"
"oh....I dont know you"

also, I have seen tempers REALLY flare in some games...having really large blades isnt always a great thing.

K-bar

lol I can see it now and it's almost humorous;

'Hey Mike.... I just killed someone'

'Where do we hide the body?'

*True friends will bail you out of jail, truer still they'll be right beside you in the jail cell*

Megan

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rkha_IOC_3.jpg
It really dosent seem that big on this Ghurka, and hes what? 5'6? im sure that the model im looking at isnt really going to be so huge that it is unweildy, and illegal. plus, wouldnt it be better for clearing debris? not only that but most (if not all) come with 2 shorter knifes, one for sharpening and another for say cutting a can open. For the size problem, im a big guy, im sure i can weild, or sheith the larger 20 inch models with no trouble, but really im looking at a 12-15 inch model, mainly for clearing thorns and brush on a path any way.

i think that happened in a movie i seen once :O. but never the less, who would really stab someone over airsoft? plus i stated that this isnt about being a "knife killing" weapon, so lets just drop this b4 it goes to far eh? thnx

As was said before- there are some very serious snipers in airsoft. I would not want to be hailing and slashign a big piss-off knife and accidentally hit someone.

Really. Dangerous.

Just don't play where there's thick brush is all.

M

I have had my K-Bar for about a year now, best knife i have ever had i think i have used it for almost everything, fishing, hunting, taking down saplings, finishing off a coyote that killed my buddies German Shepard :( um... and many other things to I just love it.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...picture001.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...picture002.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...picture003.jpg

:O KBAR :O *sexy thang*

:):) thanks


Or wait... were you talking to me ?

Lawlz. Yes yes- your hand is tres sexy!

No your KBAR is sexy. Duh:D

Megs (oh and that towel! I have sheets to match!!!!)

oh, you so gotta get a hat and wear it just like him.
Think of whats gonna happen if that guy falls? the thing is gonna go up his ass or hurt the hell out of his back.

Clearing brush in airsoft doesnt happen that often. Its loud and very dangerous. Since its a game we pride ourselves in being safe...
When the bush gets in the way, find another way or power through it.
Nothing beats quickpass 2 with those rasberry bushes that were 6 feet tall and packed so tight you could hardly move...saying screw it and going through resulted in numerous shreding of skin...but consider you could step on someone without even knowing it, having a blade out would have been a bad idea.

I have a real Khukuri thats about 45years old...2 machetes, I also have a 26" katana and a 34" broadsword...but just because I can weid them, doesnt mean they have anything to do with airsoft and none of them will ever end up at an airsoft game.

yeah, stupid place for it, but none the less, what really separates the Ka-Bar from the Kuhkuri? besides shape and cutting style

Sweet we should get together and find drapes that match to!!!!!!!!! :grin:

Anywho, I was thinking about putting my K-Bar on my set up, but after I thought about it, I always put my knife upside down so I can just unbuckle and pull it out, so its right side up, but after thinking, even if I unbuckle it without knowing and start running and it falls out you have a 7 inch blade on the field that no one knows about 8-O.

There are literally millions of different styles of knives available. Neither of the knives you picked could be seen as "all purpose". Do some more research before you buy and you will be less apt to be disappointed. Ny personal favourite knife is a Cold Steel Peacekeeper. It is the best all around knife I own.

I have to argue with that, name one job (practical) that the k bar cant do, and another knife (around the same size) can.
I have used the K-bar for almost every knife job even cooking (clean before use) while camping.

I already went over differences.

I've been playing airsoft for years and have not required a knife yet. I do have a small folding K-Bar which is nice but I leave it at home when I play airsoft. Are there dense jungles in BC that actually require you to clear brush with a knife during play ... ?

K-Bar. Handled my friend's, it just feels so right.

The KaBar is a good knife.....not a GREAT knife. Most users of KaBar simply think it is leet because of the make, and have NO idea what is out there. There are hundreds of better made, better value and ergonomically superior knives on the market. Just because the marines used it does not make it the "cat's ass". Check out the "Smokey Mountain Knifeworks", they have incredible selection and prices. The store is the size of a Canadian Tire store and they have everything....all knives.

http://www.eknifeworks.com/webapp/eC...main_front.jsp

One word. Merc-worX. Check it out. http://www.mercworx.com/

I'm no expert since I'm quite new to the knife world, but I can suggest these websites.

www.knifezone.ca
www.armynavydeals.ca <-- Less selection but low prices.

My Ka-Bar hasn't really seen the light of day since I picked this up.
http://www.lapolicegear.com/lmfiiasek.html

Are you selling your K-Bar?

:D

Meg

I got mine from knifezone they even shipped it on the x-mas holiday. I think i got the K-bar for 100 flat or something less maybe it was 90?

could i sugest this knife. a friend from work has this as well as a kbar and many other knifes. i absolutly love this knife. so practicial and feels verry nice in your hands. I personally would take this over anyother knife for the price. http://www.amobhitman.com/catalog/pr...TED_Knife.html

My khukri was a "souvenir" of my grandfather's while he was serving the RAF over in Burma. It's 60+ years old and still in really good condition especially considering he was using it to clear brush in the jungle. I say this to attest to the durability of the knife. That being said I would under no circumstances consider bringing it to an airsoft event simply because it's too unwieldy to use safely for anything other than as a machete.

I love gerbers heres mine http://www.gerbergear.com/product.php?model=8446

Id consider getting one, if I didn't have to take a 2nd mortgage out on my house to do so. :lol:

Kos, do you own a Merc-worX blade? They look like some pretty serious fighting knives right there.

A little bit of geek trivia for you guys; the knife Leon uses in Resident Evil 4 was inspired by the MercworX Sniper.

Spas-tick22, between the two knives the KABAR does seem like the much more practical choice for an outdoors/general purpose knife. For airsoft specifically, it will be much easier and more practical to carry since there are a variety of different sheaths and scabbards you can use to mount it on vests, LBV straps, ruck sack, belt, what have you. And for the price you wont cry if you lose it in the woods, the link I gave in my last reply sells the full size KABAR w/leather sheath for about $62.

SOG or nothing, im a corprate whore.

ok everyone, thanks for the input, ive gone off and purchased myself a V-42 replica, its real, but not original. its all in all a nice knife, and has all the basics that i required, thanks for the input everyone. Heres The Link To What I Bought

thats great, that knife is only good for sticking in ribs and crainiums. My bad, when I read the first post I thought you were looking for a bush craft knife. Good luck skinning a rabbit or doing anything with that knife but stroking it. :smack:



really I don't give a shit what you want, but with a ton of good advise you bought an imitation of a useless knife :smack: welcome to ASC.

Is it full tang?

from what i understand a tang is, yes its full tang, made for stabbing and sclicing, and Issue, are you implying that a Farbane-Sykes Style Knife is useless? well that may be the case in your mind, but to me the one that i have bought will fufill all the requirements that i need it to, yes i realize that a khukuri is inface nothing but a large and inpressive machette, but the sykes style knife seems to work for that i need, and so far it is doing so admirably

I think what he's saying is that of all the knives that people have suggested (the list is VERY LONG)... You went and got a REPLICA of a KNIFE whose primary use is killing HUMANS (which also wasn't on your original list).

And people wonder why people get angry...

BTW: What's the opinion on those Glock Field Knives? I haven't seen much on them...

Serviceable. Price is right, too.

One thing that people seem to forget is that the issue Kukhri comes with two accessory knives which are perfectly serviceable in themselves beyond being used to sharpen the main blade.

I got one a few weeks ago for about $50 USD shipped. For that price it's a really nice knife. The blade seems a little skinny, almost like a bayonet but oh well. Not as nice as some of my knives but like Morb said, the price is right.

Well you just proved that no matter how much advice people offer a player, he will in the end ignore it all and buy something completely useless, just because it looks cool. That sheath sucks as well.

glock field knives are nice, but again SOG seal knife series winds hands down, ive had a few, and the SOG is by far the best.

Yea but that's like saying a Honda Civic is nice but a Toyota Supra is better.

Of course SOG knives are better, it's in a totally different class than the Glock field knife.

The Glock field knife seems decent, especially for the price (around $70). The blade is narrow, similar to that of the M7 bayonet but you get the option of buying the plain blade or the saw-back version with heavy serrations on the back of the blade. The sheath is apparently made of the same polymer as the frames on Glock pistols and it seems sturdy enough. The knife also as a great feature of clicking into a lock on the sheath which makes it pretty secure. You're not going to lose this knife over a strap that came loose.

I haven't put mine through any serious shit yet, these are just initial impressions.

if im paying attention, and im not, if i were to get a combat knife, id stay away from folders, full tangs are deigned with serious torque on the hilt in mind. Doesnt matter how anonized the blade is, if the fulcrum of force is applied to the end of the object rather then the middle in a full tang knife, the pressure on the key components is far greater, you should only need a folder if its for concealment, and even if thats the case, if you wear a belt, you can hide a combat knife easily

GLOCK
http://www.armyissue.com/Gallery/alb...s/205_0554.JPG

GLOCK knives were developed in close cooperation with the special forces (Rangers) of the Austrian Army. To achieve best performance and function, no compromises were made in the design, which is getting more approval with every year of service. The GLOCK Field Knife 78 is furthermore perfectly balanced for throwing.

GLOCK Field Knives are best known for their outstanding ruggedness which offer a large range of applications - starting from a "First Aid" knife inside the car to a bone crushing knife for hunters. The cross bar protects the hand against injuries and can be used as thumb rest and as bottle-opener.

In addition to the above, GLOCK knives are sturdy enough to break windows or ammunition boxes, requirements by Armed Forces among many others.Beside of the Austrian Army these multipurpose knives were adopted and are on duty today at various law enforcement agencies and famous special units all over the world. (www.impactguns.com/store/glockknives.)


KABAR (marine corps issue combat knife)
http://www.armyissue.com/Gallery/alb...nife%20002.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka-bar

Glock / Commando Knife / M7 bayonet /Wenger bayonet (Swiss army Knife )/ D.H. Russel #4 (CF issue survival Knife)
http://www.armyissue.com/Gallery/alb...Knives%201.jpg



you should never believe what one person on the web tells you, so listen to the rest of the world and educate yourself on knives.
When you asked your question the ASC members took what they already knew about knives and condensed it for your question.You admitted that They (we) knew more than you. When you don't listen to what we tell you, it sounds like you think we're a bunch of dumb asses. Well, I'll one up you, spoon feed the info and you will have more info when your done reading and you may not admit to it here, but you will realise you're a dumb ass.
Thats ok as long as you learn from this experience. :-D



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_knife

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife#Function

http://www.chefschoice.com/tips_myth_all.html

Cheers
:salute:

Thanks for the links Armyissue, and for the comparison on the pics. Very useful