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pizzainthemorning August 15th, 2006 22:50

Throat Mics and Whispers
 
I'm interested in getting a cheap throat mic. I know some are well over the $100 range but I just can't afford to spend that on a radio mic. Now I'm sure the quality on a high end one would obviously be better, but on an average/cheap throat mic, what I really want to know is, how well do they pick up whispers?

I know sometimes when I have to be REALLY quiet I have to whisper directly into the microphone for my radio and before/if I get a throat mic I'd like to make sure that I can whisper really quietly and it still get picked up reasonably well. Any info is appreciated.

Thanks,
Alex

LUTNIT August 15th, 2006 23:32

I had zero problem being heard when I used a throat mic, only laster a few games as the thing kept turning on my neck so the mics where in the wrong spots and me turning it back all the time cause it to literally fall apart. I'm never going back again unless I can find the ones I see in some movies where its a strap of webbing with the mics stuck in it instead of a stupid little plastic and metal ring that goes around my neck.

Bought a $20 motorola earbud/boom mic combo and it works wonders, I've whispered as quietly as I can into it (the point where if I go softer my vocal cords wont actually produce sound) and my message was still heard perfectly on the other end.

ILLusion August 16th, 2006 03:06

I bought what was sold to me as an original LASH unit. It was manufactured by a company named "Communications Applied Technology"

If it is an original LASH, it looks like an early generation.

Although the microphone doesn't have as nice supports as the newer ones, they still work fine for me. Whispers come out loud and clear on the other side.

Griffon August 16th, 2006 10:43

I was thinking about picking up a NT sniper pro from Iasus. The run around $150 with mic, brace and ppt.

Review: http://www.planetairsoft.net/reviews...-sniperpro.htm
Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.ca/IASUS-NT-SNIPER-P...QQcmdZViewItem

Anyone have any experience with it?

Ghillie973 August 16th, 2006 11:07

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Originally Posted by Griffon
I was thinking about picking up a NT sniper pro from Iasus... Anyone have any experience with it?


I have the older version and it works great. But from what I heard, it all depends on the shape of your neck. It works great on some people and not at all on others.

skewed August 16th, 2006 11:10

So would it be more suited to large necks or small necks? I was thinking of picking up the NT Sniper Pro, but if my small neck will make it hell to work with, I'll just pass.

Griffon August 16th, 2006 11:38

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Originally Posted by Ghillie973
I have the older version and it works great. But from what I heard, it all depends on the shape of your neck.


Interesting. Did you have the brace on it? If not, Do you think a brace would of helped?

Oz August 16th, 2006 14:02

Four guys on our team got the new Iasus $150 throat mikes.. they lasted three games or so. If theyre in the proper position theyre ok, but if they moved just slightly all we could hear was a monotone mumble. They moved quite a bit, the guys who had them got pissed off when after every third message they sent we would just mumble fuzzzy wuzzy waz a bear back to them.

Keep in mind these guys baught the 'good' ones with the collar and all. They also reported having serious problems with the ear piece not fitting and eventually fallnig apart.

Griffon August 16th, 2006 14:37

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Originally Posted by Oz
They moved quite a bit, the guys who had them got pissed off when after every third message they sent we would just mumble fuzzzy wuzzy waz a bear back to them.


That was my biggest fear. I think I'll stick with the ear hook/boom mic.

Ghillie973 August 16th, 2006 14:41

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Originally Posted by skewed
So would it be more suited to large necks or small necks? I was thinking of picking up the NT Sniper Pro, but if my small neck will make it hell to work with, I'll just pass.

I have a small neck also. I think it's more of a shape, not a size thing. The contacts have to sit in the right place.


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Originally Posted by Griffon
Interesting. Did you have the brace on it? If not, Do you think a brace would of helped?

Yea I have a strap for it. It still does move around a little .


The reason I like it is because if the contacts are in the right spot, it works amazing. I've used it when an opposing player was less than 15 feet away, without him hearing me. And Oz is right, the ear pieces do suck. The molded ear piece (not the plug) works a little better, but not much.

pizzainthemorning August 16th, 2006 20:12

Hmm... kind of seems hit and miss, as in when it does work it works great... or, it can be poo. The earpiece/mic boom thing has worked for me in the past, sometimes (depending on the model) it can get snagged or fall off easily. Alright then, thanks for the info, good to know.

Alex

Kane August 18th, 2006 02:14

Throat mics follow the old saying "get what you pay for" very closely! Cheap is 100% useless. If you want to actually own a usful throat mic, you're going to spend at least $400 - try TCI as a starting place; everything they make is great.

Slick August 18th, 2006 03:24

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Originally Posted by Kane
Throat mics follow the old saying "get what you pay for" very closely! Cheap is 100% useless. If you want to actually own a usful throat mic, you're going to spend at least $400 - try TCI as a starting place; everything they make is great.

Your seriously suggesting that someone has to spend 400 bucks to get a good throat mic. I paid 50 dollars for mine and Ive never had to repeat myself over the radio.

Here try this. Works great and wont cost you a pay check.
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tech...ox/index.shtml

Griffon August 18th, 2006 14:26

That's cheap enough for me not to care if it doesn't work. The commando edition even has the clear ear piece.

FOX_111 August 18th, 2006 14:27

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Originally Posted by Slick
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Originally Posted by Kane
Throat mics follow the old saying "get what you pay for" very closely! Cheap is 100% useless. If you want to actually own a usful throat mic, you're going to spend at least $400 - try TCI as a starting place; everything they make is great.

Your seriously suggesting that someone has to spend 400 bucks to get a good throat mic. I paid 50 dollars for mine and Ive never had to repeat myself over the radio.

Here try this. Works great and wont cost you a pay check.
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tech...ox/index.shtml

Your lucky, because I how one of these and one of the IASUS better one at 150$ and both SUCKS ASS IMO.

The IASUS work better, since it have to "sensors" but keep moving around when I turn my neck.

If you don't wear a gas mask, forget about throat mic.

shadow1911 August 18th, 2006 18:04

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Originally Posted by Slick
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Originally Posted by Kane
Throat mics follow the old saying "get what you pay for" very closely! Cheap is 100% useless. If you want to actually own a usful throat mic, you're going to spend at least $400 - try TCI as a starting place; everything they make is great.

Your seriously suggesting that someone has to spend 400 bucks to get a good throat mic. I paid 50 dollars for mine and Ive never had to repeat myself over the radio.

Here try this. Works great and wont cost you a pay check.
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tech...ox/index.shtml


where can in get a few of those badboys and will they work with a cobra frs radio

Kane August 19th, 2006 01:57

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Originally Posted by Slick
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Originally Posted by Kane
Throat mics follow the old saying "get what you pay for" very closely! Cheap is 100% useless. If you want to actually own a usful throat mic, you're going to spend at least $400 - try TCI as a starting place; everything they make is great.

Your seriously suggesting that someone has to spend 400 bucks to get a good throat mic. I paid 50 dollars for mine and Ive never had to repeat myself over the radio.

Here try this. Works great and wont cost you a pay check.
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tech...ox/index.shtml


You figure I was kidding, huh? I paid well into $1500 for my UHF setup; headgear costing $700+ and I'm not the only one! A lot of people spend that and more on good comms. Once you do, you'll never go back to the cheap garbage stuff everyone tries to sell you at Radio Shack and Future Shop. But it comes down to whether you can afford the cost...

shadow1911 August 19th, 2006 15:06

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Originally Posted by Kane
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Originally Posted by Slick
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Originally Posted by Kane
Throat mics follow the old saying "get what you pay for" very closely! Cheap is 100% useless. If you want to actually own a usful throat mic, you're going to spend at least $400 - try TCI as a starting place; everything they make is great.

Your seriously suggesting that someone has to spend 400 bucks to get a good throat mic. I paid 50 dollars for mine and Ive never had to repeat myself over the radio.

Here try this. Works great and wont cost you a pay check.
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tech...ox/index.shtml


You figure I was kidding, huh? I paid well into $1500 for my UHF setup; headgear costing $700+ and I'm not the only one! A lot of people spend that and more on good comms. Once you do, you'll never go back to the cheap garbage stuff everyone tries to sell you at Radio Shack and Future Shop. But it comes down to whether you can afford the cost...

yes you get what you pay for but if your going to nput a radio mic threw hell to the point where it would brake those 1500 doller ones like one a game lets say are you realy going to spend 1500 a game or would you rather get some shitty thing that works well but is going to die after a few games any way

Slick August 21st, 2006 18:13

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Originally Posted by Griffon
That's cheap enough for me not to care if it doesn't work. The commando edition even has the clear ear piece.

Ive been told by people who have used the clear ear piece that it acts as an ear plug. I guess because you have to stuff it onto your ear. I think it would be better to get a ear piece that lets other sounds get through as well.

Well I hope it works out good for you. Maybe get back here and let other people know what you think of it after you get a chance to try it out at a game.

ILLusion August 21st, 2006 18:18

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Originally Posted by shadow1911
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Originally Posted by Kane
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Originally Posted by Slick
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Originally Posted by Kane
Throat mics follow the old saying "get what you pay for" very closely! Cheap is 100% useless. If you want to actually own a usful throat mic, you're going to spend at least $400 - try TCI as a starting place; everything they make is great.

Your seriously suggesting that someone has to spend 400 bucks to get a good throat mic. I paid 50 dollars for mine and Ive never had to repeat myself over the radio.

Here try this. Works great and wont cost you a pay check.
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tech...ox/index.shtml


You figure I was kidding, huh? I paid well into $1500 for my UHF setup; headgear costing $700+ and I'm not the only one! A lot of people spend that and more on good comms. Once you do, you'll never go back to the cheap garbage stuff everyone tries to sell you at Radio Shack and Future Shop. But it comes down to whether you can afford the cost...

yes you get what you pay for but if your going to nput a radio mic threw hell to the point where it would brake those 1500 doller ones like one a game lets say are you realy going to spend 1500 a game or would you rather get some shitty thing that works well but is going to die after a few games any way

There's a strong difference between good comms and cheap comms.

For example, good equipment can last through the most extreme temperatures and weather conditions. You obviously haven't used, handled or even seen one of these units before. I suggest you don't make any more assumptions and comments on them until you do.


$400 LASH units are used by many firefighters... who go through some of the hottest and wettest environments in any profession, yet their equipment continues to keep working.

Think about it.

Red Ghost August 21st, 2006 18:22

I also have the Motorola Earpiece/Boom setup. It is VERY reliable in terms of clarity. However, it does like to slip off my ear on me. Some guys on my team get an elastic strap dealie to hold it there, but i'm looking for a less retarded-looking solution.

For 30 dollars though, There isn't really a lot to lose.

Griffon August 21st, 2006 18:53

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Originally Posted by Slick
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Originally Posted by Griffon
That's cheap enough for me not to care if it doesn't work. The commando edition even has the clear ear piece.

Ive been told by people who have used the clear ear piece that it acts as an ear plug. I guess because you have to stuff it onto your ear. I think it would be better to get a ear piece that lets other sounds get through as well.

Well I hope it works out good for you. Maybe get back here and let other people know what you think of it after you get a chance to try it out at a game.


There are some addons for the ear set. If I really don't like it for $50 I can always make $30 of that back and buy something like this.

Kane August 22nd, 2006 02:25

Illusion said it. TCI and other companies build comms for elite units, soldiers and the like, and they're built to withstand pretty much anything. I have NO worries about breaking my headset at all!

shadow1911 August 22nd, 2006 10:43

i have utterly destroyed a soldiers headset for a seal team in all about 10 minutes of having it

that includes radio throat mic and in sound headphones(head phones that plug in ear design that if no sound is being emitted you hear the world as if they where not there

and all i did was jump from tree to tree
not one peace worked after i was done

MadMorbius August 22nd, 2006 12:42

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Originally Posted by shadow1911
i have utterly destroyed a soldiers headset for a seal team in all about 10 minutes of having it

that includes radio throat mic and in sound headphones(head phones that plug in ear design that if no sound is being emitted you hear the world as if they where not there

and all i did was jump from tree to tree
not one peace worked after i was done

If your headset was truly made for a "Seal Team", it would be something like a TCI or Peltor Comtac setup. If all you did was "jump from tree to tree" and the unit broke, your unit was either defective, you had it on wrong, or you were testing the solidity of the tree with your headset components.

I own a Peltor Comtac set tied into a Y-cable and chest PTT wired to my Kenwood UHF set. The same set used by special operators around the world, and it's literally fucking bulletproof.

If you buy cheap comms, EXPECT them to behave like cheap comms. I just got tired or buying more cheap shit over and over and being dissapointed with the results, so I put down some serious coin on some serious comms. The result is unparalleled; I have clear communications at all times, with no impediment to my hearing. In fact, with the volume cranked up on my Peltor's pickups I can hear BETTER sa it amplifies the surroundings while cancelling or limiting dangerous decibal levels. I've worn them in the pouring rain, -30 degree weather (they make nice earmuffs too), while driving...you name it. They are, simply put, the BEST piece of equipment I've ever purchased.

I'm running a flexi-boom mic on my peltors. If I were to purchase a throat mic of any kind, it would be the MT90 also from Peltor.

As always, you get what you pay for.

shadow1911 August 22nd, 2006 13:02

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Originally Posted by MadMorbius
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Originally Posted by shadow1911
i have utterly destroyed a soldiers headset for a seal team in all about 10 minutes of having it

that includes radio throat mic and in sound headphones(head phones that plug in ear design that if no sound is being emitted you hear the world as if they where not there

and all i did was jump from tree to tree
not one peace worked after i was done

If your headset was truly made for a "Seal Team", it would be something like a TCI or Peltor Comtac setup. If all you did was "jump from tree to tree" and the unit broke, your unit was either defective, you had it on wrong, or you were testing the solidity of the tree with your headset components.

I own a Peltor Comtac set tied into a Y-cable and chest PTT wired to my Kenwood UHF set. The same set used by special operators around the world, and it's literally fucking bulletproof.

If you buy cheap comms, EXPECT them to behave like cheap comms. I just got tired or buying more cheap shit over and over and being dissapointed with the results, so I put down some serious coin on some serious comms. The result is unparalleled; I have clear communications at all times, with no impediment to my hearing. In fact, with the volume cranked up on my Peltor's pickups I can hear BETTER sa it amplifies the surroundings while cancelling or limiting dangerous decibal levels. I've worn them in the pouring rain, -30 degree weather (they make nice earmuffs too), while driving...you name it. They are, simply put, the BEST piece of equipment I've ever purchased.

I'm running a flexi-boom mic on my peltors. If I were to purchase a throat mic of any kind, it would be the MT90 also from Peltor.

As always, you get what you pay for.


it was non defective it fell hard the wire riped and snaped as the radio was more or less plumited hit the tree and hit pavement

in more news my dads co found it funny that a 10 year old was able to destroy a radio that bad

they were able to fix the radio but the headset wall thats a difrent story how ya fix wires that are ripped and frayed

MadMorbius August 22nd, 2006 18:49

The radio fell out of your grasp, or wasn't secured, and it fell from a height and smashed on pavement? That's not the same as "jumping from tree to tree" and damage ensued.

And frayed wires are hardly impossible to repair. If the headset was as high quality as you're suggesting, it would be worth repairing some damaged wired as opposed to replacing the entire unit.

Anyways.....Iasus sucks ass.


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