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diamond_SEA September 12th, 2006 20:00

Cheap, crude landmines... but they work real good
 
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One day my friend came to our little 5 man skirmish with some home-made landmines... they were so simple and crude, but we were surprised on how well they worked as either following the rules of a landmine or just as warning devises on giving away your oh-so stealthy advance.

They are easy to make and cost under $5 a piece, maybe less
all you need is
-mousetrap
-small nails
-cap gun caps
-fishing line
-scotch tape
(additionally i carry around scissors)

sorry for the bluriness on the pictures, its a weird camera

They may be effective but they are a pain to set up sometimes, as they are very sensitive, and take some time to set up in the field

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/attachm...tid=3570&stc=1
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http://www.airsoftcanada.com/attachm...tid=3571&stc=1
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drill a hole through the trap that lines up with the "trigger" and thread a string through that, tie onto the trigger.

then nail four or so nails into the top edge, and then bend them to line up with the swinging bar.

I wrapped the top end with electrical tape to keep the wood from splintering, and nailed two more nails into the bottom edge so it can be stuck into the ground.

Then when out in the field just place 4 caps overtop of the nails, and tape them in place, set up your trip line, then set the trap. its quite sensitve and actually quite loud and was shocked at the small cloud of smoke that came from the caps.

so whenever your driving to your next event and realize you forgot your mines, just drop by a hardware store or dollar store and build one of these in 10 minutes

Arthraxis September 12th, 2006 20:43

What if somone is crawling and they stick their hand in the mousetrap by accident.

yanhchan September 12th, 2006 20:46

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Originally Posted by Arthraxis
What if somone is crawling and they stick their hand in the mousetrap by accident.

Simple....more injuries to brag about.....

kennyp September 12th, 2006 20:47

Or if you lay down on it and injure something else. :oops:

Glock 18 September 12th, 2006 20:53

Mannnnn NWA should of used that for the cover image of the Straight out of Compton album, cause thats ghetto.

Amos September 12th, 2006 21:06

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Originally Posted by Glock 18
Mannnnn NWA should of used that for the cover image of the Straight out of Compton album, cause thats ghetto.

Ghetto... But a good non-milsim thing.

:D It's cheap, and re-usable :D

Dracheous September 12th, 2006 23:09

Mouse trap + finger = not feild legal!


Sorry but all these mouse trap ideas ussually get shot down for the same reason. God forbid any guy mishaps across one in the wrong way.

Swatt Six-Four September 12th, 2006 23:49

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Originally Posted by Dracheous
Mouse trap + finger = not feild legal!


Sorry but all these mouse trap ideas ussually get shot down for the same reason. God forbid any guy mishaps across one in the wrong way.


I can understand the reasoning behind what you say. I wonder could there not be some kind of compermise?. Take the simplistic rig and use another simple idea. Put it in a faux case( I kinda picture a simulated claymore body, due to the curvature of the face which would allow his mouse trap hammer to swing. I would think that this idea would eliminate the pinch hazard and also the possability of flying debris. I am pretty sure that it would eliminate the " smoke" effect he describes but with the right design could possiably ampilfy the sound slighty. I would also reccomend using thread as a trip wire insted of fishing line. I would hate for someone to trip over it at a run and hurt themselves. The thread is biodegradable and costs a lot less, I would think it would be more than strong enough to trip the mouse trap. also maybe a arming pin so you can have it preloaded and once it's set pull pin to make it hot after it's set not during lol

sry if I am way off base but I think that my idea would satify everyone. But plz tell me if there are any faults in the concept. I would be really interested in what eveyone thinks

Vladthecossack September 13th, 2006 00:12

Same idea but cheaper and less complicated.
http://www.milsimlabs.com/airsoft%20...rap%20mine.htm
I have doubts as to whether you could import the stuff, but it shouldn't matter if it's just some aluminum devices.

testtube September 13th, 2006 07:29

can someone get those brought in,

sdkfz234 September 13th, 2006 08:24

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Originally Posted by SwattMedic
Put it in a faux case( I kinda picture a simulated claymore body, due to the curvature of the face which would allow his mouse trap hammer to swing. I would think that this idea would eliminate the pinch hazard and also the possability of flying debris. I am pretty sure that it would eliminate the " smoke" effect he describes but with the right design could possiably ampilfy the sound slighty.

How about building the case out of a rigid mesh, or design the case more like a cage?

It may not look "milsim", however it would protect against injuries from the mousetrap without restricting the smoke or sound effect.

LUTNIT September 13th, 2006 08:29

I dont see the problem with mousetrap + finger, I've accidentally snapped those things on my fingers a couple times when setting them at my cottage and it hurt less than a 400fps BB at 20' in my opinion.

Dracheous September 13th, 2006 09:57

LUTNIT the thing is some people can take it, others not know its going to happen its going to hurt like a B***

Its the same as that BB, you get shot in the game you barely feel it because you are all hopped up on adrenaline. But in the safe zone where your just loading your guns and filling up, it hurts a like a B*** when someone shoots you there. Cuase A. You weren't expecting it, and B. You don't think anyone is stupid enough to shoot in the safe zones.

Manaconda September 13th, 2006 09:59

You know this guy has a good idea. I was wondering where there caps would go until I got to the end and I don't think that with the nails in the way you'd have too many people catching thier fingers in the trap. The box around it is also a good way to keep any one grom hurting them selves. I'm gonna try this out. Thanx man. I'll get back to youy and tell ya what I come up with.

Cheers

Dracheous September 13th, 2006 10:17

Why not build something quiet simple.


http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...simplemine.jpg

Build a small wood box around one of those cheap small CO2 bottles that has a pin that when the top is depressed it punctures the top of the bottle venting the gas. Similar to the CO2 ones that you can buy. You can get 25 packs of those bottles for like $10 at a ANY crappy tire too.

Personally if you yourself are not willing to set the mouse trap off IN your own hand before setting this out in the feild I really wouldn't recommend the mouse traps. Specially when there are so many other ways out there. Like fire alarms for example. Stick a batter in one, wire it so that when the top is pressed it goes off! Only need to modify the test button really. Unless you're smoking out in the feild real close to the ground. Yeah I'm looking at you Stalker! :P just kidding. That way its easily reuseable. Not to mention that there are ways to rewire them up to have trip lins and all sorts of different applications to them.

Anything that can hurt someone is probably not the best way to go. And yes I know LUTNIT we are shooting at each other here. But you wanna go crawling along and roll to cover to take this thing on your ear; nose, neck, face, etc etc.?

diamond_SEA September 13th, 2006 12:29

Well when i built these, and was setting them up in the field, ive snapped my fingers in the trap a few times, its not that painfull at all so long as the caps dont go off, but you fingers dont put enough pressure on the caps to detonate so its pretty safe

PS the friend i mentioned that invented it is dan (flashpoint)... he demands acknowledgement in his all powerfull ability in being cheap

Flabeo September 13th, 2006 12:38

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Originally Posted by Dracheous
Why not build something quiet simple.


http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...simplemine.jpg

Build a small wood box around one of those cheap small CO2 bottles that has a pin that when the top is depressed it punctures the top of the bottle venting the gas. Similar to the CO2 ones that you can buy. You can get 25 packs of those bottles for like $10 at a ANY crappy tire too.

Personally if you yourself are not willing to set the mouse trap off IN your own hand before setting this out in the feild I really wouldn't recommend the mouse traps. Specially when there are so many other ways out there. Like fire alarms for example. Stick a batter in one, wire it so that when the top is pressed it goes off! Only need to modify the test button really. Unless you're smoking out in the feild real close to the ground. Yeah I'm looking at you Stalker! :P just kidding. That way its easily reuseable. Not to mention that there are ways to rewire them up to have trip lins and all sorts of different applications to them.

Anything that can hurt someone is probably not the best way to go. And yes I know LUTNIT we are shooting at each other here. But you wanna go crawling along and roll to cover to take this thing on your ear; nose, neck, face, etc etc.?



I have built something simmiler to this but see it takes alot of work to keep the nail, and the CO2 in place. Mine worked but it took to much time to make and broke after a few uses.

Freedom Fighter September 13th, 2006 18:08

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Originally Posted by Dracheous
LUTNIT the thing is some people can take it, others not know its going to happen its going to hurt like a B***

Its the same as that BB, you get shot in the game you barely feel it because you are all hopped up on adrenaline. But in the safe zone where your just loading your guns and filling up, it hurts a like a B*** when someone shoots you there. Cuase A. You weren't expecting it, and B. You don't think anyone is stupid enough to shoot in the safe zones.

If people are really that precious then they shouldn't be playing airsoft, or at least have their own fancy league.

Tankdude September 13th, 2006 18:14

dollar store rape alarm. pull the pin and you get loud loud noise. Get fishing line and tada.

Flashpoint September 13th, 2006 20:50

Thanks for the credit, eventuailly.
Oh ya i picked up 5 of those cheap mouse traps at a dollar store for $1, plus the caps (200) or so for $1, and the fishing line (weaker fishing line so when you trip it it breaks but still goes off) for $3. i have used the same method on another trap except it's one of those big rat traps. Same design it just packs a bigger wallop. but some people are not comfortable with these so i don't get to use them much, Still fun though. I hope to be adding a new trap soon, but it is still in the devolipment stages. Thanks for the feedback.

diamond_SEA September 13th, 2006 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracheous
Why not build something quiet simple.


http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...simplemine.jpg

Build a small wood box around one of those cheap small CO2 bottles that has a pin that when the top is depressed it punctures the top of the bottle venting the gas. Similar to the CO2 ones that you can buy. You can get 25 packs of those bottles for like $10 at a ANY crappy tire too.

Personally if you yourself are not willing to set the mouse trap off IN your own hand before setting this out in the feild I really wouldn't recommend the mouse traps. Specially when there are so many other ways out there. Like fire alarms for example. Stick a batter in one, wire it so that when the top is pressed it goes off! Only need to modify the test button really. Unless you're smoking out in the feild real close to the ground. Yeah I'm looking at you Stalker! :P just kidding. That way its easily reuseable. Not to mention that there are ways to rewire them up to have trip lins and all sorts of different applications to them.

Anything that can hurt someone is probably not the best way to go. And yes I know LUTNIT we are shooting at each other here. But you wanna go crawling along and roll to cover to take this thing on your ear; nose, neck, face, etc etc.?

As for rolling into this thing and hurting those sensitive places, its actually touchy enought to go off with heavy enough vibrations, say like a 150+ lbs airsofter plus gear hitting the ground right next to it... as for landing on it, well then your body would just stop the bar from swinging, not a big problem

plus usually when we use these in our games, the trap is visible, so we will hide it under or beside trees and old cars and the like. plus if your paying attention you can see the tripline in the light. If your in the night or running from a hail of bbs, thats a different story. or there is always the excitement of capturing the flag, only to realize too late that the tripline is attached to the flag... isnt that right dan?

Vivisector September 13th, 2006 21:17

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Originally Posted by Tankdude
dollar store rape alarm. pull the pin and you get loud loud noise. Get fishing line and tada.


One of our guys used that idea to make a perimeter alarm. Works very well :)

Dracheous September 14th, 2006 09:29

If you want an easy way to mount the nail and the bottle its as simple as a screw and a peice of PVC pipe. Go to the hardware store get some electrical PVC piping, cut a peice that fits about 2 inches up the bottle, secure this a couple small blocks, I find that three in a triangle works best around it, screw it in pleace. And a screw through the top. Paint the box up brown and if you really want to hide it the way you would a real mine, dig down and get the lid to ground level. About 20 lbs would set this off if dropped a foot off of it. Someone stepping on it would set it off easily. Crawling, may have a chance to see it... disarm it easily and place it where they want it ;).

CDN_Stalker September 14th, 2006 12:31

I'd rather put one of these in a mouse trap. Much more fun!

http://www.thegag.com/fart-bomb-bags.html

Blackgryph September 23rd, 2006 12:34

The mouse trap, I've been using these things in games for a few months now they were brought to our group be one of our other players and now a few of us have made them. You can make them for less than a dollar, all you need is at the dollar store. Oh and the only one who is at any real resk of getting their fingers stuck in it is the people who are setting it. :smack:

Amos September 26th, 2006 08:57

Me and my buddy made one of these things last night...

To test the dangers of it snapping on you.. I actually set it off on my hand... It's not that bad.

I would say a BB shot to the neck is alot worse than one of these dinky little mouse traps going off on you..

Seriosuly.. Look what you're all complaining about... You're worried your fingers are going to be caught in a mouse trap.. While you've got people shooting hunks of plastic at you going 400 FPS...

(And most of you wear gloves anyways!)


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