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assaultriflepunk November 23rd, 2006 03:14

How would i go about doing this?
 
I am new to this hobby and am looking into building up an airsoft gun replica of the M4A1 carbine i would like to build it up from seperate manufacturers(not just some kit that all the pieces come together), i would like it 2 look as real as possible, price is not a huge deal but would prefer it to be rather afforable, So what companys make the most realistic M4 rifle? the accessories i would like to install on it would be an infrared scope,good sized suppressor,laser sight,M203 grenade launcher,tactical flashlight,and also if it could have ejecting shells even better:D ,in hindsight something like this except with laser sight and suppressor, thnx a bunch-A.R.P(also i would like it so it feels and weighs the same as the actual gun itself)

http://www.modelguns.co.uk/images/M4T1.jpg

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 03:24

you want a systema ptw
but since those are like 2200

hurricane metal body
g&p crane stock
real ras of some sort.
real front sight
real rear sight
systema steel body furniture kit.
some sort of a steel barrel.
systema drop in mechbox
some reinforced pistol grip
systema motor
g&p socom silencer aka"donkey cock"
surefire or pentagon taclight
just anything that is steel because it weighs more

most real parts are way way cheaper, like the front sight and ras and its obviouslt way better quality.

Goldman November 23rd, 2006 03:25

First you make a choice;

Price, or quality.

I'm not sure what you mean by "Infrared scope", as far as my knowledge goes there is no such thing. Do you mean a Night Vision Optic? Or perhaps a Thermal optic?

As for weight, chances are will weigh more than the real thing after you slap everthing on there... I know its been done before with other AEGs.

Other than that, as 10 other people are about to say read the FAQs and take a look at the "canadian retailers" tab. Between Mark at A&A and the guys at ASCA you should find every item your looking for.

By the same token, get age verified so you can shop the used section as well.

Skruface November 23rd, 2006 08:10

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Originally Posted by Goldman (Post 385254)
I'm not sure what you mean by "Infrared scope", as far as my knowledge goes there is no such thing. Do you mean a Night Vision Optic? Or perhaps a Thermal optic?

Thermal and IR are the same thing. Hell, Elcan makes a scope called the Spectre IR. 'Course.....it costs as much as a 2 year old small car, but hell, he wants the best.

http://www.nationalinfrared.com/x20/...vies/SWAT2.wmv
http://www.imaging1.com/thermal/monocular14.html

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Originally Posted by assaultriflepunk (Post 385251)
i would like it 2 look as real as possible, price is not a huge deal but would prefer it to be rather afforable, So what companys make the most realistic M4 rifle?

I'm sorry. "Realistic" and "affordable" aren't often allowed to be used together when talking about airsoft. That's the way it is - if you want realisitic, go buy a REAL M4....it's cheaper than trying to build a realisitic fake one.

ToRN November 23rd, 2006 09:18

I am going to impart to you the advice that I should have followed when I built my C8 (canadian version of the M4).

Just buy a Systema PTW. it will end up costing you less, and being more realistic than anything that even comes close, that you would build from parts.

Nic

Ibby November 23rd, 2006 11:03

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Originally Posted by assaultriflepunk (Post 385251)
also i would like it so it feels and weighs the same as the actual gun itself

If you're going to play with it set up like that you'd better start some upper body strength training now...

thephenom November 23rd, 2006 11:16

Just waiting for him to reply back saying his price range is $200-300. lol

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 14:02

yup hes getting a tm.

thephenom November 23rd, 2006 14:07

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Originally Posted by wey ferro (Post 385345)
yup hes getting a tm.

That's pretty far from what he's looking for unless he straps a brick to the gun.

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 14:22

yeah he really just wants a gun that is the same size and has a feel to it, like not a toy loking gun. so tm is fine for him.

Dracheous November 23rd, 2006 14:25

That gun he depicted does have a lazer pointer on it. Its on the other side of that boom mount. This side has the tac light, and the other has a lazer.


Speaking of which, where do I get one of THOSE mounts?

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 14:27

wgc i think i seen them, check unc and order from johnnydo

assaultriflepunk November 23rd, 2006 15:20

Groovy,thnx wey ferro for all your help i spent half the night deciding on what to get from those links u sent me and i am going 2 order them through johnnyDo , he says i can get everything through him except the grenade launcher as it would be seized through customs, anyone know where i could get an M203 GL for the TM M4A1ris? in Canada?

thephenom November 23rd, 2006 15:23

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Originally Posted by assaultriflepunk (Post 385411)
Groovy,thnx wey ferro for all your help i spent half the night deciding on what to get from those links u sent me and i am going 2 order them through johnnyDo , he says i can get everything through him except the grenade launcher as it would be seized through customs, anyone know where i could get an M203 GL for the TM M4A1ris? in Canada?

I personally would get agre verified first and see what ASCA has to offer. For the price of TM M4A1, I'd rather pay a small fraction more for a full metal Classic Army from ASCA.

Handicapper November 23rd, 2006 15:51

An M203 combined with a silencer. WTF? Pick one or the other, not both. You wouldnt see that in real steel, and yet you say you want it as realistic as possible.

sherlockbonez November 23rd, 2006 15:57

I've seen pics at MP.net where some one has a 203, silencer and an acog on their m4.

Ditto on the CA instead of TM.

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 15:59

why wouldnt you see it in real steel

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 16:02

http://media.militaryphotos.net/phot...arbine/c_car01

thephenom November 23rd, 2006 16:08

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Originally Posted by wey ferro (Post 385431)

That has to be the ugliest and most messed up setup ever.....

techobo November 23rd, 2006 16:12

Looking at the picture of the M4 that assaultriflepunk wants to make all I can think of is the old days of playing with lego and putting as much stuff on as I could. I see 3 empty rails, more flashlights!

I agree with thephenom, just get the CA m4ris from ASCA. If you are looking for a tm m4ris, you might be waiting for a while, I heard from hojo that there aren't any in stock from their distributer.

assaultriflepunk November 23rd, 2006 16:44

ive decided to go with all that gear as that is what i want, i want all the accesories on the gun, ive decided to go with real look and feel and not so much for it 2 be in metal and weigh real heavy(have held real canadian version of M4) just a bit 2 heavy, whatever TM has 2 offer to go with the M4A1ris im fine with that-Jay

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 16:54

yeah peeps need to remember that its what the person likes/wants. not what everyone else is doing and when he is all done with it there probably wont be many people with his exact setup so there he has a custom gun that hes stoked on.

Handicapper November 23rd, 2006 16:54

The M203 has a catapult-like trajectory, would there not be a chance of an M203 round hitting the silencer?

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 17:05

obviously not since you see it often in real steel within force recon and other units.

yes it lobs it out but what do you think the barrel is for? it keeps it in a straight line to pass that distance for sure haha. like what is the straight range on them? atleast 60 feet id say

DuffMan November 23rd, 2006 17:10

I would get age-verified to avoid scarring Johnny-Do's reputation.

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 17:13

hes only buying accessories what effect would that have?

thephenom November 23rd, 2006 17:18

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Originally Posted by wey ferro (Post 385466)
hes only buying accessories what effect would that have?

From his original post, he was also asking about who makes the most realistic M4 rifles. Doesn't that imply he doesn't have one yet?

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 17:22

yeah but johnny doesnt sell guns so he cant buy one underage from him so it doesnt matter

Combine November 23rd, 2006 17:29

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Originally Posted by Handicapper (Post 385459)
The M203 has a catapult-like trajectory, would there not be a chance of an M203 round hitting the silencer?

As someone said, it has a barrel to make sure that doesn't happen, these arent Half-life 1 grenade launchers lol (if you played hl1, youl know what I mean)

krazie Sj November 23rd, 2006 17:48

It only has that trajectory cause we give it that. The Second it leaves the barrel it starts to fall, not rise. It is impossible provided it was functioning properly, for it to hit the barrel.

Holy fuck...Grade 10 Physics people.

assaultriflepunk November 23rd, 2006 17:55

thanx every1 (especially wey ferro there lots of help for info) im going to go with this list(see below), also anyone know where i could get a G&P QD M203 Grenade Launcher ( Short ) in Canada?


TM M4A1ris
http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=990#

Suppressor
http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=8528

Scope
http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=7767

M203 Grenade launcher
http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=3323

Tactical flashlight
http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=3594

Classic Army M15 Special Force Crane Stock
http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=7049

Sanyo-3600mAh-9.6V-STAR Crane Stock
http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=4731



getting cost from johnnydo soon,(also teedering on idea thst i might not go with M203 due to being to hard to get and i dont know what it would look like)

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 17:59

your linkers do not work brahh.

assaultriflepunk November 23rd, 2006 18:04

there we go

Greylocks November 23rd, 2006 18:09

Since it seems you know what you want, your next step is to simply follow the rules of this site. Get age-verified, and order away from one of the Retailers.

I strongly suggest you go to games and rent a few models before launching yourself into expensive purchases.

Look at it as if you were buying a car; would you not want to test-drive one first or buy from a picture and description?

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 18:15

you dont NEED the sight and steel accessories if your not building a gun anymore since they come on it, but they are shitty alluminum on the tm, those are just for realism/weight.

thephenom November 23rd, 2006 18:16

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Originally Posted by assaultriflepunk (Post 385489)
thanx every1 (especially wey ferro there lots of help for info) im going to go with this list(see below), also anyone know where i could get a G&P QD M203 Grenade Launcher ( Short ) in Canada?

......

cost me roughly $959.00 canadian plus whatever shipping might be

You are fully aware the UN Company prices aren't the same as you pay here right?? UN Company is located in HK, so by the time you get a retailer to import the parts here, it'll be quite a bit more. (Just checking)

Just a rough guess at looking at the parts, you can easily be looking at a close to $1500 bill including taxes. (Rough estimate: $500 + $90 + $70 + $250 + $50 + $120 + $60 + $100 + $40)

assaultriflepunk November 23rd, 2006 18:18

shit guess ill drop those steel items,also how do u get age verified?

thephenom November 23rd, 2006 18:20

http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=11474

assaultriflepunk November 23rd, 2006 18:27

here it is, this is the gun i would like to build, except with the handle on top of the gun instead of the scope being in its place, also anyone know where 2 get a carry strap 4 it?

http://www.modelguns.co.uk/images/m4options.jpg

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 18:28

you could settle for a tm gernade launcher also which works like a shotgun, takes shotty shells and has three barrels, shoots 3 bb's in one shot. and its abs so it isnt as costly

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 18:29

a sling? you can get those anywhere, go to daves army surplus in new west

takatorikku November 23rd, 2006 18:35

M203 + suppressor? classic example of America's Army... use the suppressor and kill until you're caught. then blow em away since you're spotted anyways. nothing like making a loud exit.

sherlockbonez November 23rd, 2006 18:52

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Originally Posted by Greylocks (Post 385497)
I strongly suggest you go to games and rent a few models before launching yourself into expensive purchases.

Shhhhhh...I waiting for one of those "I'm quitting airsoft after 6 months thrread so I can scorce some cheap gear.

shadow1911 November 23rd, 2006 18:55

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Originally Posted by takatorikku (Post 385517)
M203 + suppressor? classic example of America's Army... use the suppressor and kill until you're caught. then blow em away since you're spotted anyways. nothing like making a loud exit.


no no no its take them out silently then when they find you you run up to them and fire the grenade. **BOOM both dead**


then again i earned the call sign LThappynades on that game cause i would run into a crowd with a cooked grenade.

Ibby November 23rd, 2006 19:37

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Originally Posted by assaultriflepunk (Post 385512)
also anyone know where 2 get a carry strap 4 it?

http://www.slingsonly.com/
http://www.davesarmysurplus.com/

I've used lots of slings on lots of guns both real and airsoft, and my fave is the patrol sling on this page:

http://www.cpgear.com/default.asp?mn...p&pcat=19&p=-1

The extendable assault sling also on that page is excellent as well.

I'm just curious, are you putting this together to actually play and if so will you actually be using all these gadgets?

Greylocks November 23rd, 2006 19:50

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Originally Posted by assaultriflepunk (Post 385512)
here it is, this is the gun i would like to build, except with the handle on top of the gun instead of the scope being in its place, also anyone know where 2 get a carry strap 4 it?

http://www.modelguns.co.uk/images/m4options.jpg

If you get age-verified (how to do that was pointed out to you, just read it), you will have access to ALL the buy/sell sections. Anything you want you can get for the Retailers, including slings.

Try to read a bit?

My suggestions still stand. Try them.

<Ez-Target> November 23rd, 2006 19:56

y'know, if your using as silencer, you might want to cut out the launcher....
not real stealthy..... unless you manage a silencer on a launcher, but you would have to custom build that... are you good with a hacksaw?

wey ferro November 23rd, 2006 19:58

its looks dude. he can get what he wants

sherlockbonez November 24th, 2006 11:58

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...t=94249&page=8

3/4 ways down, you'll see someone using a real 203 with silencer.

<Ez-Target> November 24th, 2006 19:40

i see... i guess that could be effective... those things have a massive range right?

thanks

(PS) i was not by any means insulting your gun, it will look really cool if it turns out that way


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