I need help
 

Hey everyone,
I need help. I currently have a 350 fps pump shotgun, pretty good quality and a terrible uzi haha. Anyway, I get my paycheck in Feb. and I'm wondering if anyone thinks I should get a new Secondary OR a new Primary. The primary i'm thinking of is a TM AUG or a TM AK47. If getting a secondary, I'm thinking of a HFC Desert Eagle, or maybe a HFC Dark Halk. Input is highly appreciated :cool: .

asking that when your 14 is only gonna get you one response.

K...
 

K...first off how did you know I'm 14, and second, my parents are on board with me airsofting so with them buying the guns for me it shouldn't matter. Also, I have my gun liscence, and my hunter safety liscence prooving I can be trusted with guns.

Droc has magic powers.

proving you can pass a test...

Dude, we have self imposed laws, don't try to skirt around them. If you are a mature guy who is really interested in shelling out over a grand for your airsoft gear, then you will be able to wait.

Otherwise you'll buy something on a whim and then 6 months later you'll be trying to sell it to some guy you know because you've moved on to weed and beer....

We don't really care if your parents are on board, they aren't OUR parents and as such can't really make us sell anything to you. Out of curiousity, what is the official name of your 'gun license'?

Check the laws about Replica Guns. Have your parents read those laws too so they understand what they are getting into. I bet they dont know what they have to do, and it's worse than for real guns.

So, as asked, show your maturity by following the rules.

Alright then, not the responses I was hoping for. Now to address some of that. Okay, first off, Following the rules is exactly what I'm doing. I'm 15 in less than a month, and there are many games that include teenagers 15-16. I do realize there is no reason to trust a 15 year old, but I am surprised there isn't more trust in the airsoft community in general. I guess I just got the worst replies I could have hoped for, and there are many, many people my age who airsoft. And yes, they have read those laws. My dad is more responsible and mature about guns than many people in the military. He would not let me do airsoft unless he had the upmost trust and belief in my responsibility. I AM mature, which none of you can truly judge me on, seeing as how you haven't even met me. Oh btw Duff Man, I'm not buying from you genius, I buy from A&A. And pip, I know many people who's lives have been ruined by drugs and alchahol, and I'm not about to ruin mine. Also, I can wait, and I plan too before getting onto a descent team.
So before all of you go using your "insults" on me, how bout actually knowing one more thing about me than my age.

well no offense, but almost being 15 still won't get you a gun from a retailer unless your dad buys it, which is probably your fallback plan anyways. The only reason most people are flaming you is because NOT most games include 15-16, at least in Ontario, I assure you. Trust is a hard thing to gain here, since all it takes is a teenager waving his new GLock around at school to get arrested and the sport canned on by soccer moms yet AGAIN.

And also, it doesn't matter if your father is all gung-ho about guns, what he says and does does not concern you, YOU concern you and it's your decisions on whether to act like a fool when it comes to airsoft or not. The very fact that you're getting defensive over tha matter drops your maturity points by 1 and it'll take a lot more than that to get some trust in the community. Hell I'm 20 years old and I'm still pretty uninformed when it comes to some airsoft things.

And I don't insult Duff Man, good way to put yourself in the airsoft circles, insulting a senior member, thumbs up.

And Pip is right, maybe not about the drugs, but about the interest. You're almost 15 years old, and teenagers' interests change fast. You may like airsoft now and decide when you're 18 and much more mature that you'd rather have money for your college tuition. It's just a fact he pointed out, airsoft is NOT cheap, my starter kit cost over $1000 and I've spent about $6000 so far, though it doesn't really show it lol. Just keep an open mind about it.

It's a good thing to see that you're willing to wait 3 years to get into a team, I hope airsoft is with that too. And unless you write out a 10,000 word biography on yourself, no, we won't know a thing about you. Hell, I've been in airsoft for like 5 months now and I'm still known as "that guy with the hard-to-pronounce asian name"

I definitely understand that, Takatorriku, and all those points are very valid. But just a couple replies (if it seemed like it, I wasn't insulting anyone, and I wasn't trying to be defensive I was just trying to earn the respect I deserve). I am very responsible when it comes to guns, and I don't act like a fool. I know I can't exactly proove this to any of you, because I don't live in Ontario, I live in Saskatchewan. Also, I do realize that interests change fast, but I have been doing airsoft for around two years now, and I"ve always had a high interest for simulations. I've had a job for around two years, and have around three grand saved for college, and about 2.5 saved for my first car. I know it's not a lot, but I'm just trying to make a point. I am willing to spend a lot of money on airsoft. I believe life should be spent experiencing instead of sitting at an office all day long hoping for that one day before you're 80 years old for that awesome raise.
And again, If it sounded like I was insulting anyone or getting defensive, I'm sorry I didn't mean to come off like that. I was just trying to gain respect. If I offended anyone or accidentally insulted anyone I appologize, if it was this message or another.

Oh, and P.S.- Many airsoft games in Saskatchewan do include member my age :)

No they don't, as I told via PM there has been the odd exception made but that was mainly for family or very close friends. Most of the known community actually does not have 14/15 year olds playing. And by known I mean establish teams and members known locally and on ASC, not kids playing in backyards or farms.

Do not give the lad any ideas...

LD

Well, if I'm gonna get flamed for asking a simple advice question, I'm wondering why I'm even trying with Airsoft Canada. Why is it no one can answer one advice question without raising all these issues about me being "immature", or "a fool" when they haven't met me, more than that actually seen my with a gun or a replica. And BloodSport, I appologize because I misunderstood what you wrote. I thought it was for the teams, not for the games. I was under the impression people of my age with parental supervision were permitted to play, and it was only the team that required exceptions. I guess I'll wait one-three more years to airsoft, to avoid getting flamed for a simple question.

the only young'n i know who plays airsoft around here is Atreyu's kid, and only because his father brings him to every game HE goes to. Good player by the way. So cheers if you CAN play over there. Cuz if you're underage and you want to play then your dad should be prepared to attend EVERY game you go to and stay for the WHOLE day. Now THAT'S father-son commitment!

And also, not to be mean or not, but you've been on this forum for a total of 3 weeks, you've not earned respect yet.

Keep saving up, college is a lot more expensive nowadays, my sister pays like $12,000 a semester, so $24 grand a year! If you've really been into airsoft for 2 years (meaning you were playing when you were 12 O_o) then I suppose you're pretty serious about it and I hope you can have the means to drop $4000-odd on guns, gear, accessories and necessities.

A tip: Don't gun whore. 1 rifle, 1 pistol, and all mags are all you need. I learned that the hard way :P

Thanks for the response Tak, and you are right about the college tuition, and definitely right about the money. Heh you're the only one on here that hasn't been hostile to me....yet. lol. but anyway your point is very valid about my dad having to come out to a lot of games, and he does work ALOT, but we have a good relationship. I might not be able to get to all the games I'd like to, but prolly a few. I'm now considering waiting till I'm a bit older, cuz if I got flamed like this at a game it would definitely be more embarrasing, and I'd lose a lot of respect I'm assuming. It also wouldn't be good if the person flaming was drunk. wow. anyway, thanks for not being hostile tak. lol.

WTF???

Age issues aside I would personally go for the AK unless you like the look of the AUG.

Secondary is not as important for outdoor, but for reliable and good quality for price TM 4.3 or 5.1.

comments like this are why you get replies criticizing your maturity (or apparent lack thereof)

Its treated with about as much respect as saying "I AM cool. My mom said so. So stick THAT in your pipe and smoke it asswipe"

It still makes you sound like an immature kid, who really doesn't grasp the big picture AND you still come off as somewhat insulting.

Get the idea?


As per my email to you,

Note that one of the qualifying statement is "IF game admins feel that you are mature enough"

NOT whether or not you deem yourself mature enough.


Now, since you like to shoot your mouth off in a public forum, and prefer not to respond to emails instructing you on how to get involved with the local community, I suggest you "STFU N00B" for the time being.

Incidentally, if the drunk comment was in any way related to what I emailed you, obviously you weren't quite mature enough to understand why it might be an issue for you to join a team who's members average age is 28, and gets together for a beer after games. And also why you parents might have issues with you being exposed to that. You young whippersnapper types are so easily corrupted you know :rolleyes:

And for what its worth, my son is 13, also shoots actual firearms with me, and will not share the airsoft field with me either until he's 15-16. And he's mature enough to understand why.

I do undertand why I cannot play right now. In all truth I wish I would have presented myself in a better manner, and most of all in person. I am a lot better in person than I am online, in my opinion anyway. The drunk comment was not related to the e-mail in any way, it was just an example of something that could go horribly wrong. My cousin was knifed in a drunk bar fight, and I'm not saying that anyone is that irresponsible on the field, I just wouldn't want to take that chance.
I did state in one comment that I did not mean any offence to anyone in the post. It has been made clear to me people of my age attempting to airsoft is frowned upon, so I will reside until I am a higher age. With that being said, it would be appreciated if people would halt when it comes to all the insults and flames.

good stuff. until you've of age, i suggest you research, research and research! check out as many reviews as you can on the guns you're thinking of buying and that will help you decide when you buy a gun 3 years from now.

cheers.

Heh I was actually more so thinking of prolonging games, I was still planning to buy guns and practice up until that point. But I do believe your advice to research is a good idea haha.

You forgot another big legal problem. If you cant play at an authorized field with a Replica Weapon, you cant play elsewhere either. Where you are does not change the law.

Even your father cant play just anywhere he pleases, neither can I, or anyone here.

So, really, your best solution is to gather your cash and wait until you are 18. Then all your legal problems will be over AND you'll have enough cash to buy a sweet setup.

Your choice.

Funny, I have yet to encounter anyone at an airsoft event who was intoxicated.

Perhaps your comment about being afraid of running into a drunken airsoft player on a public board says something about your maturity.

LD

no i know, i didn't mean play (i'm not playing on an airsoft field until I'm at least 17) but i mean buy a good AEG or something like that and practice up with friends like I have done for a while so I can proove myself worth of a team when of age. And about the drunk I meant on the odd chance if there IS a drunk person, I'm not gonna go and insult him or anything in that manner. I've also never been to an official game, so I can't really say whether people get drunk there or not, its just a scenario

Did you read what I said? EVEN WE CANT GO ANYWHERE WE WANT.

Is that "practice with friends" on an authorized field? Are they over 18? Are their parents present at all times? No? Then...

Awww screw it. Kid, go read some more instead of typing for a while. You BADLY need to inform yourself and your parents about the laws surrounding airsoft. If you dont, we WILL read about you in the news. It's only a matter of time.

if you do have an airsoft gun, for the love of god keep it in your basement for plinking. i don't want to hear about 5 kids getting shot by cops while they were in a field with guns on the news.

play safe, and play it safer by not playing at all until you're 18. think of all the money you'll save by then, and get yourself an M249 chain gun. then get a RIS for it and mount M203s. instant fear.

Thicken up your skin, kid. It's a life skill. If you're trying to get your driver's license, mouthing off to the instructor/evaluator is the last thing you want to do, even if he's being an ass.

Now, I believed that you had gotten the message until you said this:

Now, I could have assumed that you just mean plinking in your basement, but I am more realistic than that. Playing in your friend's backyard (even a giant backyard) is a bad idea. Police surround you, and one of your friends panic and get shot to death. This is something most people would like to avoid.

Stick to some other hobbies, go hit up some chicks. If you've got enough money saved up now, imagine how much you'll have to spend on this crap when you're legal.

k, I will do so. And I seriously do appologize about any insults I did not mean to mouth off to anyone. I can see how people would take offence to some of my statements, and I am truly sorry. And okay, I'll take your advice.

great. hopefully the sask guys will be able to play with you in the future. i guess it's good to say that this thread is over. still, don't forget to read every sticky in the FAQ section 9mm

I would suggest you get an AK47. I have 3 of them and love them all. They look pretty damn good if you put real AK wood on them as well, but stay away from the kits, they are 5 times as expensive as the real ones. If I could only have one gun it would be an AK.

P.S. You did nothing wrong, you were not disrespectful, just the usual gang rape from bandwagon ASCers.

Thanks for your helpful and informative post Debbie. What a fine addition you are to this community, what wonderful guidance you have offered this young man. Perhaps you should open a private clinic dedicated to coddling underage airsofters?

LD

Yes, I am a fine addition....be careful what you wish for,,,

You've obviously never been to a TKF chicken slaughter.

or a QP game at rawdon. Everyone who arrives the night before...well, airsoft + hangover = suckage.

Did you read at all the original posts he made? So you have guns, good for you. How about you try to get age-verified too if you so much want to support the sport and the attached rules?

S far all i see is a bunch of 40 year olds teaming up on a 13 year old screaming bloody hell.
You guys can be so mature some times.

grrrr
your so sexy when your sarcastic.

Maturity aside, it's a question of law and liability. If someone allows you to play at a game, they have to take legal responsibility for you. Most field owners aren't prepared to take that responsibilty, although you might get lucky and find one who will.

Them's the brakes, kid. It's a different world today, and your PAL doesn't do anything in this case (although I respect the fact that you've gotten licensed - we need more youth in the shooting sports). I have a PAL, an RPAL and a Utah CCW but nothing in any of those licenses has any application towards replicas or immitation firearms, depending on your interpretation.

If your parents are onside and are truly ok with purchasing an AEG for you, knowing what that means explicitly, then so be it.

As has been stated above, the AK's are solid guns that take abuse and last forever.

Cheers.

don't forget he can run around and scream "INFIDELS!" with an AK a lot more easily than with an M4