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Jugglez March 19th, 2007 19:53

Speedjunkies HK416
 
Here are some pics of Speedjunkiesracing's new baby...

His is on the top..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...6/Img_3041.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...6/Img_3037.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...6/Img_3040.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...6/Img_3056.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...6/Img_3046.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...6/Img_3052.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...6/Img_3072.jpg



I'm sure he'll be along shortly to add some comments.

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Nortus March 19th, 2007 20:00

Looks nice, but the thing that bugs me most about the Hurricane kit is that they don't include the RIS front sight and you'd have to purchase that separately. Really doesn't make sense to me if you plan on doing the 10.5" version.

Thing is, if you decide to purchase the HK416 sight set, you'd have to buy the rear sight as well, but you already have that from the Hurricane kit. And who's going to buy a rear H&K style rear sight off you?

Blah.

stokes March 19th, 2007 22:37

That looks freakin sick! good build duy! I might purchase another one of those risers!

Mr Jon March 19th, 2007 23:01

Mmmmm... I approve. What kind of aimpoint mount is that in the picture?

Jugglez March 19th, 2007 23:21

It's the standard "L" mount sitting on top of a Mad Bull RAS FIX Scope Raiser mount. http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...roducts_id=205

Eddie March 20th, 2007 00:55

Did he get the V2 kit with the notch for the RIS and body? I'm kinda pissed that mine doesn't have the notch but some locktite on the delta ring seems to fix the RIS from shifting.

stokes March 20th, 2007 01:07

Yep that is the version 2. That damn bamboo rail covers are really growing on me.

Jugglez March 20th, 2007 01:16

Yeah that's the V2... V1's were discontinued several months, i believe there were only 150 or so units ever made. If you look at the unique serial number on the selector switch side it will tell you the kit's manufacturing no. My V1 is no 66... the V2 up there is No. 435

stokes March 20th, 2007 02:45

Holy crap! 435! The one I needed to complete my HK collection!

MestHead March 20th, 2007 15:40

The top one is so hot.

speedjunkiesracing March 20th, 2007 16:43

Hey just to let everyone know Jugglez and his airsoft parts canada are the bomb. He knows what customer service is about. Every PM and email replied too and thats rare for airsoft stores.
For all you airsoft parts make sure you check out his site.
http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/

So why a hurricane kit from Jugglez.
I purchased a VFC HK416DX on ebay and sent it to my brother in Florida.
I used for a week while on vaction down there a few weeks ago. Nice gun but to get one in Canada about $1300 to my door. Then I would need to get a tight bore, spring, wired to rear with hurricane stock, and pay to have it installed. So lets say $1600 +.
Or you could order a Hurricane HK416 from Jugglez for less than the stock VFC HK416 depending on your options. Mine was a little more with a battery and some upgraded parts. You do the math.

I will do a review in a few weeks after I get some games in with it.

gamz March 20th, 2007 16:47

I love the matte black finish on those rifles.

Just beautiful.

Nortus March 20th, 2007 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedjunkiesracing (Post 441299)
Hey just to let everyone know Jugglez and his airsoft parts canada are the bomb. He knows what customer service is about. Every PM and email replied too and thats rare for airsoft stores.
For all you airsoft parts make sure you check out his site.
http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/

So why a hurricane kit from Jugglez.
I purchased a VFC HK416DX on ebay and sent it to my brother in Florida.
I used for a week while on vaction down there a few weeks ago. Nice gun but to get one in Canada about $1300 to my door. Then I would need to get a tight bore, spring, wired to rear with hurricane stock, and pay to have it installed. So lets say $1600 +.
Or you could order a Hurricane HK416 from Jugglez for less than the stock VFC HK416 depending on your options. Mine was a little more with a battery and some upgraded parts. You do the math.

I will do a review in a few weeks after I get some games in with it.

I couldn't agree more with Jugglez's customer service. It is indeed top-notch.

However, your pricing is a little off.

The VFC HK416DX is $1095 from A&A (only retailer I've found that lists the price). Last time I checked they shot 350fps with 0.2g BBs out of the box. So why do need to upgrade? True you'd still "need" to get a rear battery buttstock, but that cost is offset with the fact that you'd still need a drop-in mechbox for the Hurricane kit.

Now let's look at the Hurricane kit. In addition to the aforementioned mechbox, you would need an inner barrel to go along with the Hurricane kit and other small tid-bits.

The VFC features a bolt-lock feature that lets you lock the hop-up door open and release via the bolt release lever. MUCH more realistic. Also the VFC has a COMPLETE set of sights like I mentioned in my post above.

Advantage of the Hurricane kit is that you know exactly what you're putting into the gun, whereas with VFC you don't know the quality of the internals. Disadvantage is that installation is for somewhat experienced gunsmiths (vs. people who just want a working HK416 out of the box). Build quality is apparently "quite good" with Hurricane, but according to VFC owners, theirs is "quite good" as well.

No, I don't own the VFC HK416, and yes I've done my research.

speedjunkiesracing March 20th, 2007 18:42

From A&A to my door VFC HK416DX is $1249 with tax, shipping and no battery. My VFC HK416D10RS with a battery and a bag of BBs was $500 Canadian to my brothers door in Florida. Just because people charge double or more for a gun in Canada does not mean its worth it. So if you need your gun to have a more real front sight you can pay $1250 for a stock gun that has electricial problems and shoots 315-320 FPS.

I will on the other hand will take my $1300 and buy a hurricane kit from Jugglez and have a gun that shoots 380FPS on .2s. That has a systema gear box, tight bore, wired to rear hurricane stock with a battery and delivery included. IMO


As for me

oOMuDOo March 21st, 2007 07:32

All I have to say is .. sexy! Armalite...done right.

Nortus March 21st, 2007 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedjunkiesracing (Post 441375)
From A&A to my door VFC HK416DX is $1249 with tax, shipping and no battery. My VFC HK416D10RS with a battery and a bag of BBs was $500 Canadian to my brothers door in Florida. Just because people charge double or more for a gun in Canada does not mean its worth it. So if you need your gun to have a more real front sight you can pay $1250 for a stock gun that has electricial problems and shoots 315-320 FPS.

I will on the other hand will take my $1300 and buy a hurricane kit from Jugglez and have a gun that shoots 380FPS on .2s. That has a systema gear box, tight bore, wired to rear hurricane stock with a battery and delivery included. IMO


As for me

Quick to defend your $1300 decision eh? Haha.

If you read carefully I was merely pointing out that there is an ALTERNATIVE to getting an HK416 setup that other users can explore.

The VFC HK416 "Super DX' could be more appealing to other aspiring HK416 owners, because aesthetically, it simply offers more than the Hurricane kit:
* Realistic H&K-LE stock (please correct me if I am wrong, but I couldn't find a single H&K-produced HK416 that has the same stock as the Hurricane one)
* Aforementioned front sight
* Realistic H&K pistol grip
* H&K magazine
* Bolt-lock feature (mentioned above and described by WGC: Cosmetic bolt plate able to lock when pulling cocking handle, returns by pressing Bolt Release Button, easy for hop-up adjustment.)
* AN-PEQ2 unit (for battery storage)

For roughly the same price, somebody could forego all the above luxuries and instead choose the Hurricane kit which does perform well. It really depends on what you're willing to sacrifice. Alternatively, you could purchase the VFC replica and replace the internals, because when you've spent upwards of $1250, what's another $250? :rolleyes:

Jugglez March 21st, 2007 14:57

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Originally Posted by Nortus (Post 441856)
Alternatively, you could purchase the VFC replica and replace the internals, because when you've spent upwards of $1250, what's another $250? :rolleyes:

Then what would be the point of buying a pre-built gun, only to take it apart right away? About half of the VFC 's out there have been proven to have internals problems... If I'm paying $1250 for a gun it better last far longer than 500 rounds. The major pro of the VFC when it was released is it's pre-built ready to go, this is no longer a pro if you're likely to get one that doesn't work.

The RIS front sight is sweet, but if you're not looking for the CQB look this is a non-issue - notice what length both guns in this thread happen to be?

The stock included with the Hurricane kit is an HK417 style stock, and it holds a large cell 9.6v battery, far more practical than PEQ box which adds weight and ruins the balance of the gun. Changing the battery is a piece of cake too, pop off the cheekpad and it slides right in.


I've chronied the VFC version a month or so back it clocked in at 320-325-ish..... even if you get a good one you'll need to change out at least the spring if you want to match what a G&P or Systema M120 gearbox would shoot at.


And doesn't the VFC come with a plastic hop-up similar to the ones you'd find in $200 China Airsoft guns?

I realize your argument is primarily in the cosmetic aspects, but if you want a well rounded gun that will PERFORM, the Hurricane kit is the way to go.

Lakonian March 21st, 2007 15:28

Damn... Speed junky, your 416 made me start planning for my next project! I will soon join this bandwagon! SOON! mwahahhaha!

stokes March 21st, 2007 17:02

NO KOS DONT! ITS NOT THAT GOOD.... hehehehe

the end March 21st, 2007 18:49

someone should add his site to the canadian retailers drop down menu

Ditti March 21st, 2007 19:46

all I want to know is when do I get to try it?

Eddie March 21st, 2007 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jugglez (Post 441041)
Yeah that's the V2... V1's were discontinued several months, i believe there were only 150 or so units ever made. If you look at the unique serial number on the selector switch side it will tell you the kit's manufacturing no. My V1 is no 66... the V2 up there is No. 435

Probably a little more then 150 because mine is T040152

speedjunkiesracing March 22nd, 2007 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ditti (Post 442039)
all I want to know is when do I get to try it?

March 31 Flag Raiders walk on game
Be There Bitch

Lakonian March 25th, 2007 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokes (Post 441933)
NO KOS DONT! ITS NOT THAT GOOD.... hehehehe

lol. No? Weelll... I'll be buying yers off ya then!

stokes March 25th, 2007 23:03

Never!....

Lakonian March 25th, 2007 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokes (Post 443935)
Never!....

I have to wait soooo long for mine!! ARGH.

Blackspeed416 July 3rd, 2007 05:16

I've been looking up threads related to the HK416 ever since it caught my I and some the pics I found here helped me with my decision to get one.

I now own a VFC HK416 D Ser. 88-100318 and I absolutely love this gun. But it does have the fire cut off issue that has been discussed so heavily. That being said I was well aware of the issue before I bought the gun and knew that it could be fixed very easily.

As for the most realistic representation of the RS HK416 the VFC does it better. Color wise is not close but perfect and the trades are spot on as well.

My gun shot a high of around 343fps and a low about 337fps with an average of 339.2fps and where I play the max is 350 so its right at the limit, so no need to upgrade. Also the ROF is very fast and most people are impressed with it as the HK416 shoots faster than there modded guns.


So I basically got what I was looking for a high muzzle velocity and fast rate of fire with out having to mod a thing.

The cut switch is easily fix by any professional tech so no problem there ether.

VFC HK416 D is a great way to go if have an understanding of a. it might have minor problem and when delivered b. its awesome gun high quality representation of the HK416 that needs no modification to fire fast and hard.

OBTW it has a metal hop-up


Blackspeed416

HarDcoreChronie July 4th, 2007 12:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokes (Post 441039)
Yep that is the version 2. That damn bamboo rail covers are really growing on me.

i love those bamboo rail covers. looks so comfy. Do they make smaller ones for M4a1 or mp5 ras? prrrrrrr :D


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