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Chubby July 2nd, 2007 22:36

Uncommon accoutrements to aid in game play (question about)
 
Hey folks

The main question I have is related to whether or not it's kosher to use prop items in airsoft to aid/enhance your airsofting experience. Like for example what's the average take on fake knives/bayonets?

I bought mine just for show reasons but I was thinking if in that rare/non rare case where you get the drop on someone and you want to be fancy about it or you ran out of battery/bb's/gas for your gun, what would be the general concensus on running your fake plastic blade accross the back of someone's arm as a means to win?

Or how about shields? I see them from time to time in game pictures while I'm chairsofting away and have always wondered what the popularity of them is like and how many times event organizers have said no or yes when people bring them out to games.

I'm sure it's been asked before but I can't find the posts about them if these questions have been asked already.

If things were such that I was at an event and someone were to "knife" me, I'd probably be cool with it myself, unless of course they wanted to pull a real dick move and jab the point into my neck whether they realized they were being an ass or not, but over all, I'd probably be cool with allowing knife props in game play.

TokyoSeven July 2nd, 2007 22:43

I carry a 26 inch expandable baton with me, but only cause its part of the drop leg holster set up I have. I never pull it out during a game and its purley only for looks.

As for knife kills, usually running two fingers across someones back side or politley tapping them on the shoulder is good enough for me. I know some guys that for the look of it carry the rubber knives cause it adds to the look of things.

DarkAngel July 2nd, 2007 22:45

Knives in MOST cases are ONLY allowed if they are rubber (maybe even plastic).
I myself have a Real steel M9 Bayonette for show + Survival tool but for A/S ONLY my Rubber M9 is drawn.

Shields are rarely used in Outdoors games. Realisitcally soldiers dont carry a shield on their back when they are on a field. CQB or indoor games they may be accepted, but you should ask the organizer first, because its their say wether its a go or nogo.

As for props, anything usually is a go, however you should be aware, props weigh too, and from my experience (cause im a gearwhore) All that useless gear weighs you down.

Metternich July 2nd, 2007 22:56

Questions about rules/props should be brought up with the host of the game you intend on attending. They are the only ones that can ok the use of a particular prop for a game. As a general rule of thumb so long as the prop is SAFE and all players are aware of the use/rules of the prop, then it should be ok. Again I just want to point out, if you want to use a prop at a particular event discuss it with the host of said event to make sure it is ok with everyone.

Brian McIlmoyle July 2nd, 2007 23:50

Knife Oh yeah
 
I have no issue with people using rubber knives... I think everyone should have one...

For me, For CQB... heck for anything... Primary... SMG or Rifle.. Secondary Pistol, holdback... knife...

I have run many scenarios at TTAC3 where knives have figured large in the outcome...

Shields are a different beast... if someone wants to use a shield ... it has to replicate the handeling and properties of a real one... meaning heavy and bullet resistant... not bullet proof... so far no one has come up with a shield that meets the criteria.

-Skeletor- July 3rd, 2007 00:00

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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 495774)
I have no issue with peole using rubber knives... I think everyone should have one...


Whys that? If your going for realism, a lot of Soldiers don't even carry bayonets all the time.

Brian McIlmoyle July 3rd, 2007 00:37

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Originally Posted by -MikeL- (Post 495779)
Whys that? If your going for realism, a lot of Soldiers don't even carry bayonets all the time.

I could see not carrying a bayonet.... but no knife.... I don't know of anyone who spends any amount of time outdoors that would not carry a knife....

And going into a combat environment without at least a ulility blade... you're kidding right?

MadMax July 3rd, 2007 01:07

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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 495774)
I have no issue with people using rubber knives... I think everyone should have one...

For me, For CQB... heck for anything... Primary... SMG or Rifle.. Secondary Pistol, holdback... knife...

I have run many scenarios at TTAC3 where knives have figured large in the outcome...

Shields are a different beast... if someone wants to use a shield ... it has to replicate the handeling and properties of a real one... meaning heavy and bullet resistant... not bullet proof... so far no one has come up with a shield that meets the criteria.

Hmmm... How about a heavy welded steel bar outer frame that supports a few layers of heavy corrugated cardboard? Unwieldy if the frame weighs as much as the real deal, and most of the covered area would be penetrated by sustained fire or particularly powerful hits. The rim would be strong enough to be rested on surfaced and dinged about, but if it's narrow enough it would offer negligible solid cover.

Armyissue July 3rd, 2007 01:14

knives are excellent. nothing says 7331 like knifing a sniper team! And after scarfing down some Flag raider snausages a good knife fight in the dust of the safe zone! Eye protection recommended, and a small wager or two adds realism lol.

Savage Haggis July 3rd, 2007 02:04

http://www.crocblades.com/img/products/KB1245.jpg

My very airsoft game a hot shot pulled a rubber knife on me in the safe zone.
Only I didn't know it was a rubber knife - caught it in my peripheral vision.
I wound up with rubber knife wedged between my upper arm & my rib cage...
...and he wound up on his ass trying to remember how to breathe.
Hey, all I caught a glimpse of was a black Tanto blade coming at me...
Then they told me they allowed rubber knives.

Been thinking of picking one up.

Any local (Canadian) dealer in rubber combat knives?

deep in the bush July 3rd, 2007 02:26

I just had to add it...so sorry
 
I have a squirrel.

I wont say where it's kept.

Deep In The Bush.


(ok really...rubber knives are fine)

Aquamarine July 3rd, 2007 02:51

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Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 495733)
I carry a 26 inch expandable baton with me, but only cause its part of the drop leg holster set up I have. I never pull it out during a game and its purley only for looks.

YOU LIEING JERK!

http://www.pozland.johnnydo.com/airs...e/P1060181.JPG

TokyoSeven July 3rd, 2007 03:26

Now that wasnt during the game was it lover sniper pamts?
That was the after game foreplay. You love me.
Next time I'll put a chain of anal beads in the baton holster instead.

TokyoSeven July 3rd, 2007 03:27

Wow I have no butt in that picture.
Doh...

-Skeletor- July 3rd, 2007 17:19

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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 495799)
I could see not carrying a bayonet.... but no knife.... I don't know of anyone who spends any amount of time outdoors that would not carry a knife....

And going into a combat environment without at least a ulility blade... you're kidding right?


Sorry if it seemed like I was saying no one carry's a knife. Everyone I know either carries a knife they picked up somewhere or just use the issued Gerber Multitool since they have their uses. Bayonet's though arent something carried all the time. I know I don't carry a bayonet on my chest rig. No good place to attach it(least from what I've tried), I carry enough stuff on me, don't need any extra stuff daggaling off my rig an poking me, an I don't think I'll ever need to fix bayonets or whatever overseas.

Brian McIlmoyle July 3rd, 2007 17:43

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Originally Posted by -MikeL- (Post 496043)
an I don't think I'll ever need to fix bayonets or whatever overseas.

I sure as hell hope not....


for me... I used to carry on my web... the following

14 inch bladed short sword ( cause it pissed off the company commander, and actually worked very well as a clearing tool..machette )
A multi tool, and a Fairbairn-Sykes fighting knife.

I still prefer the Fairbairn-Sykes and have a few of them, including a vintage one although the providence is uncertain.

Although the updated Applegate style fighting knife is quite nice.. I picked up a folder version.. and typically carry it when I am in the field now.. it's just as handy and more compact.

Though for sure... if I was still humping... I'd be carrying a 1902 vintage Artillerymans Falchion I picked up at a flea market in unissued original packing grease... what a nice little ( 20 inches long) limb loper...

But then... I'm a little enamoured of things edged... I've been teaching Western Swordsmanship for over a decade.. and practicing it over 20 years

Brian McIlmoyle July 3rd, 2007 18:16

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Originally Posted by Droc (Post 496059)
Your a regular Steven Segal.

Im all for props so long as they dont impair your play.

ah... he's a buddist... way too passive

CDN_Stalker July 3rd, 2007 19:02

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Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 495832)

Bloodsport using an M60 to riflebutt you? Sheesh, I've almost seen everything now!

Nik12 July 3rd, 2007 19:17

I need to get me a rubber knife. I've got enough steel/composition ones to sink me if I fell in a pool.

I'm all for the use of props, so long as they are used responsibly.

TokyoSeven July 3rd, 2007 19:35

I keep a leatherman in one of the pouches in my best for those "incase of this" purposes but thats about it.

Ive been thinking of getting a rubber knife to attach to my vest, but well I carry enough crap on me as it is. I dont think I need anymore stuff poking me.

Ibby July 3rd, 2007 23:45

Rubber knives = fine. I have a rubber training knife I sometimes carry, but to tap a guy on the shoulder and tell him he's dead is way more fun. As for utility knives, I find a decent Swiss Army knife is more than adequate in the field. What I don't get are the idiots I see at airsoft games with anti-tank knives or bayonets strapped on themselves. What's the point in that?

philstructo July 4th, 2007 00:27

I think dummy knives are cool I got killed with one at my first game and now I want one. I carry a real one tomohawk black tantoblade all that jazz for if I ever need one at a game.

Lakonian July 4th, 2007 01:53

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 496084)
Bloodsport using an M60 to riflebutt you? Sheesh, I've almost seen everything now!

He makes the M60 look like an MP5 :p !!

Aquamarine July 4th, 2007 03:24

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Originally Posted by kos (Post 496289)
He makes the M60 look like an MP5 :p !!

That was mean.

Moz July 4th, 2007 03:29

what about rubber axes and viking helmets?

Naerah July 4th, 2007 03:44

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Ibby July 4th, 2007 09:10

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Originally Posted by philstructo (Post 496230)
I think dummy knives are cool I got killed with one at my first game and now I want one. I carry a real one tomohawk black tantoblade all that jazz for if I ever need one at a game.

My point exactly. What could you conceivably need a big ass knife like that for at an airsoft game?

Nik12 July 4th, 2007 20:38

The same reason some people have side arms they never use? But better, it can help you cut your way out of a perdicament, like getting tangled in the vines, or needing to unscrew various screws.

Aquamarine July 5th, 2007 01:04

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Originally Posted by Moz (Post 496319)
what about rubber axes and viking helmets?


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Originally Posted by Naerah (Post 496322)
:salute:


That isn't a viking helmet. Vikings never wore those with horns and shit on it, that's only hollywood.

Savage Haggis July 7th, 2007 03:52

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Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 496840)
That isn't a viking helmet. Vikings never wore those with horns and shit on it, that's only hollywood.

Like so...

http://www.hickerphoto.com/data/medi...hotos_5492.jpg

Gryphon July 7th, 2007 13:04

Some folks here carry real knives but ONLY for utility such as felling small trees to provide cover and concealment, etc. They are never pulled out during gameplay. A few of us have rubber knives and use them for mercy kills occasionally.

I've used my baton indoors as a mercy weapon but made sure to deploy it BEFORE coming across anyone, and used it just as an extension of my arm to tap people as I came up to them. A lot of them thought it was a pretty cool idea.


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