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Ronan July 6th, 2007 12:22

Scope for SR-25
 
Hey i'm having a bit of a problem choosing a scope for my CA25/G&P SR25.

I'm thinking 3-9x40mm illuminated. Pretty much found a TASCO like that http://www.opticsplanet.net/tasco-3-...iflescope.html but i'm not sure if it's good.

Buska makes some nice one's but i have been told it's to big http://www.opticsplanet.net/barska-h...-12x50-ir.html

Any idea what to get? I was told multiple times to stick with a real scope b/c the airsoft one's aren't as good.

My budget for the scope is $50-$80.

WI-FI July 6th, 2007 12:30

For my sr-15 project i would probably go for this one http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.asp...ID=1&CatID=131

Ronan July 6th, 2007 12:32

My friend has that scope. Paid a bit more if i recall correctly. I wasn't impress by the finish, it felt like very cheap rubber and like the pop up scope cover would break off easily :(

WI-FI July 6th, 2007 12:46

ah good to know i will save my buck and look for something else then :p

HaZarD SFD July 6th, 2007 13:37

Hey Ronan.. Go to http://www.futong.com/index.html when checking out put in Promo Code 5001 for 50% off.. I am doing an order on monday.

Ronan July 6th, 2007 13:42

Thx Hazard but those are chinese scopes... O_o

Lakonian July 6th, 2007 13:55

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 497619)
Thx Hazard but those are chinese scopes... O_o

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Originally Posted by Ronan
My budget for the scope is $50-$80.

Dude, seriously.. do you honestly expect to land a good scope on that budget?

That's not even enough for a decent RDS.

damage July 6th, 2007 14:12

M3 replica. King Arms, G&P and Star.

Ace of Spades© July 6th, 2007 14:12

A good set of iron sights cost in the same area of price lol, decent replica optics go for lowest 80$, usually around 100$.

frankiet July 6th, 2007 14:14

Generally speaking, almost every scope (even the cheapies) outperform even the best airsoft gun. No need to spend a fortune. Save that money for the gun!

stokes July 6th, 2007 14:14

Whatever replica you purchase will most likely be made in China so suck it up princess...

HaZarD SFD July 6th, 2007 14:15

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 497619)
Thx Hazard but those are chinese scopes... O_o

OK so you order a 3-12x40mm scope and rings and Sunshade for $50 I consider
that a damn deal for the price. considering its more.. check out reviews on these things.. they work great on .22 rimfire but anything bigger they arent as good.. Your shooting a damn Airsoft rifle not a 30-06. Plus IMHO spending $200 for a replica when you can get a full package for $50 is sick. ill do a review on mine when I get it in..

Skruface July 6th, 2007 14:17

Besides, a big honking scope with tons of magnification is next to useless on an airsoft gun, even a highly upgraded one. I run a 4-12 X 50mm on my Tanaka M700 AICS and I almost never take it off the lowest setting - since you're shooting at such a close range (100m and under), when you use a huge zoom and your target moves even a foot or two, he's completely out of the reticle.

Whoever told you airsoft scopes aren't good is a moron. There are quite a few that are just as good as low-end "real" scopes. I use chinese knockoffs on 2 of my real-steel rifles, and there's an excellent review on 1337tactical.com on chinese scopes on Tikka tactical rifles shooting .223 and .338WM:

http://www.1337tactical.com/shop/newsview.php?infoId=4

HellRanger July 6th, 2007 14:22

I have 2 of their scopes, one I just replaced with a Leupold.
But they are designed for real steel and are amazing bang for the buck.


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Originally Posted by HaZarD SFD (Post 497617)
Hey Ronan.. Go to http://www.futong.com/index.html when checking out put in Promo Code 5001 for 50% off.. I am doing an order on monday.


Scarecrow July 6th, 2007 14:48

http://www.jaypatterson.com/images/SR25/SR25_1.pnghttp://www.jaypatterson.com/images/SR25/SR25_2.pnghttp://www.jaypatterson.com/images/SR25/SR25_3.png

Classic Army Elcan reproduction with rubberized outter shell, around $200 and is good looking with 2.5X red and green lit reticle is perfect for airsoft and is theme appropriate for a rifleman's SR25.

P.S. These scopes have a wide enough field of view that it works fine for airsoft even at close in distances...

Ronan July 6th, 2007 15:02

For the flammers. True, some scope cost $200+ but that doesn't mean the same one made by Tasco, Barska and Leopold aren't good. If you think dishing out $300-$500 for a scope for airsoft is cool or something else, well thats good for you. I personaly think it's a waste of money that can be spent on the gun (which i'm doing btw). It's not like i'm gonna go sniping people 1km away so why should i buy a scope that can do that??

I found a couple real scope from very good companies for the amazing price of $50-$80 (including shipping). They have a nice 3-9 zoom with a 40mm lens diameter which i think is just enough. On top of them i can mount a close/midrange dot scope.

I'll be able to snipe when needed, and also assault when needed.

Scarecrow, love the paint job :D Very nice scope also, but i prefer to have a sniper scope with a close-mid range red dot scope on top, something like this: http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload...700SO-DT2L.jpg

Ah lastly, not sure why i'm being call a princess O_o I didn't know that dishing out almost 2 grand of the money i earned over summer working my ass off at a desk job qualified me as a princess (if at least it was prince)

stokes July 6th, 2007 15:04

And those that you found is probably made from China.

Ronan July 6th, 2007 15:06

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Originally Posted by stokes (Post 497657)
And this that you found is probably made from China.

http://www.barska.com/

Hope they aren't chinese replicate O_O

Don't get me wrong, i could dish out $300 for a scope... but i just don't get why? Like i said, i wont be going around uber sniping everyone...

stokes July 6th, 2007 15:07

lmao... trust me things like this always have its root somewhere in China... lol...

Ronan July 6th, 2007 15:09

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Originally Posted by stokes (Post 497660)
lmao... trust me things like this always have its root somewhere in China... lol...

Just like killer toothpaste O_o

Lakonian July 6th, 2007 15:16

http://www.barska.com/07_large/AC10984.jpg

Are you going to tell me that's not made in china? It has ONE ironsight. ONE. WTF?

Ronan July 6th, 2007 15:17

No clue, but Barska is a world recognize optic maker. At least so iv been told by hunting friends.

And that looks more like a design feature... not sure why you would need ironsight on a scope like that.

Scarecrow July 6th, 2007 15:25

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 497656)
Scarecrow, love the paint job :D Very nice scope also, but i prefer to have a sniper scope with a close-mid range red dot scope on top, something like this: http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload...700SO-DT2L.jpg

I have that scope and ring set mounted on my .22 because for airsoft, it was too much magnification and not a wide enough field of view... YMMV but I prefer a functional rifleman's scope in airsoft in order to acquire targets quickly.

That being said, in real steel my tactical .308 BA has a 6x24x40 Bushnell Tropy on it and its the cats ass but I am dinging targets at 300m with that thing. Could never use that in airsoft.

Ronan July 6th, 2007 15:28

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow (Post 497666)
I have that scope and ring set mounted on my .22 because for airsoft, it was too much magnification and not a wide enough field of view... YMMV but I prefer a functional rifleman's scope in airsoft in order to acquire targets quickly.

That being said, in real steel my tactical .308 BA has a 6x24x40 Bushnell Tropy on it and its the cats ass but I am dinging targets at 300m with that thing. Could never use that in airsoft.

So what would you reccomend for a upgraded (durability and precision) CA25 that shoots 350fps? I would like to be able to snipe short, medium and long range targets so i'm not restricted like normal snipers are (long range, no closer than x feet etc etc).

Lakonian July 6th, 2007 15:33

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 497664)
No clue, but Barska is a world recognize optic maker. At least so iv been told by hunting friends.

And that looks more like a design feature... not sure why you would need ironsight on a scope like that.

If targets are too close, you can just use the iron sights mounted on the scope instead of removing the optic (losing your zero) , and using your BUIS . The Elcan, and triji ACOG both have them. They're also pretty useful as "view finders".

As for the shitty barska replica.. It's not a design feature.. it's a design FLAW.

Lakonian July 6th, 2007 15:36

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Originally Posted by stokes (Post 497660)
lmao... trust me things like this always have its root somewhere in China... lol...

Trust him. It's true. Even "all american" brands are outsourcing work.


Hate that shit.

Ronan July 6th, 2007 15:42

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Originally Posted by kos (Post 497673)
Trust him. It's true. Even "all american" brands are outsourcing work.


Hate that shit.

Big difference between chinese clones and made in china. First is shitty, second is cheap to make :P

Lakonian July 6th, 2007 15:43

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 497675)
Big difference between chinese clones and made in china. First is shitty, second is cheap to make :P

No. It's just QC.

philstructo July 6th, 2007 15:53

Listen to scarecrow get an elcan

http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...x&cPath=73_112

Ronan July 6th, 2007 16:02

Am i not better off with a sniper scope and one of those on top?

FOX_111 July 6th, 2007 16:06

[QUOTE=Scarecrow;497653]http://www.jaypatterson.com/images/SR25/SR25_1.png/QUOTE]

Scarcrow, your paintjob is amasing! I'll do the same on my new M700!

Replica scopes are crap. Even if they look good, the image quality is really deficient. A cheap hunting scope from bushnell will outclass any Tasco crap or china replica. When it come to scopes, it's not just about the look. My M24 has a bushnell banner 3-9x40mm wich is amasingly clear. My M700 curently sport a Tasco 3-9x40mm illuminated, wich is uber crap. Try some before you buy.

SovietHippie July 6th, 2007 16:07

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 497685)
Am i not better off with a sniper scope and one of those on top?

Sorry, but the thought of the look of that makes me laugh, you would look pretty stupid. I think you would be better off putting Iron/Battle sites on top rather than a RDS, probably cheaper too.

Scarecrow July 6th, 2007 16:11

I wouldn't settle for anything less that 50mm field of view and even thats a little tight. Any magnification over 3x and you're going to narrow your field of view. I think the Elcan knock off is the best option (for me personally) as it lets you put a scope on thats being used in the real world, but that won't interfere with your airsoft experience.

Now if you're just trying to recreate the look and you take the scope off, then by all means get a chinese knockoff (you're in for look, not functionality), BUT if you expect to be able to effectively use a scope with real magnification characteristics as RS in airsoft and actually engage targets at the distances we engage at, you're in for a surprise - I know I was. I went back to the safe area, took it off and went with iron sights for the rest of the day.

The only other option is the EOTech Holosight. That puppy is the cats ass in both airsoft and real steel and I use mine on three different platforms, a real shotgun (gotten 5 geese so far with it), my real AR15 (30m engagements put rounds in a circle no bigger than a toonie) and my airsoft C8.

I don't want to dissuade you from going for the look you want, but, you should know what the net result is going to be.

Has anyone here had good experiences with airsoft and magnified optics beyond 6x and 40mm or under? If so, what do you do to cope with the narrow field of view?

Nova316 July 6th, 2007 16:12

http://www.opticsplanet.net/barska-h...5-6x42-ir.html

Thats the scope I use and its amazing, the center crosshair is illuminated red as well so its easy to shoot in the dark. Isnt to bulky, and has a great finish on it... Heres it ontop of my M4
Its 1.5-6x IR
Sorry for the low res pic
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e8...h_DSC00018.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e8...h_DSC00019.jpg

Scarecrow July 6th, 2007 16:14

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Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 497687)
Scarcrow, your paintjob is amasing! I'll do the same on my new M700!

Thanks, wish I could take credit for that talent but Viking did the paint job on it. I saw the way he did one of his and I just had to have the same. The only difference is he put a lot more green into mine as opposed to tan because of my preference for woodland play settings, but I can still do desert or woodland renactments with this and the camo remains effective.

Ronan July 6th, 2007 16:18

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Originally Posted by SovietHippie (Post 497689)
Sorry, but the thought of the look of that makes me laugh, you would look pretty stupid. I think you would be better off putting Iron/Battle sites on top rather than a RDS, probably cheaper too.

http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload...700SO-DT2L.jpg

Looks far from stupid.

On the fake vs real thing, i want a real scope, not a airsoft plastic crap one. Some cost a couple hundred dollars, but other's don't. I was told by a lot of people that i won't need more than 3-9x40mm, and anything more wasn't gonna be use. If that wasn't true, well thats new to me. I played in NY and the fields are small, but i had people that played in the BIG fields told me anything more was overkilled >_>

Whare are the 3 brands i should stick with? I know Leopold but they are a bit to pricey for a airsoft gun i think.

Scarecrow July 6th, 2007 16:23

The Pro-Arms Elcan is $130 CAD, which isn't half bad if you're trying to do it on a budget. Don't forget on the Chinese scopes you're probably going to get dinged for taxes and duties if you import. Local suppliers seem to have traditional sniper type scopes for $70-$90.

I'd just hate to see you hit the field and discover its useless and have wasted hard earned cash. On the other hand I've told you my experience with it, so, do what you feel you want to do - my opinion is just that - an opinion. You may find it works for you. Everyone is different.

Good luck and enjoy whatever purchase you make!

Mantelope July 6th, 2007 16:24

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 497698)

A Docter is a hell of a lot smaller than an Elcan.

Ronan July 6th, 2007 16:35

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Originally Posted by Mantelope (Post 497700)
A Docter is a hell of a lot smaller than an Elcan.

Thats what i ment. Didn't mean to put a Elcan on top of a scope... can't even imagine what that would be like O_o

Ronan July 6th, 2007 17:10

Ok i found the following:
Bushnell:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/bush-rs-bnr-714124.html

http://www.opticsplanet.net/bushnell-3-9x40-banner.html

Barska:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/barska-v...-20x50-ao.html

http://www.opticsplanet.net/barska-h...-12x50-ir.html

Only the last one is illuminated, is that a must have for games? Or is it only usefull when its pitch black?

Nova316 July 6th, 2007 17:58

I dont think u should get anything over 3x zoom since I dont think your bb's can go that far

SovietHippie July 6th, 2007 18:01

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 497706)
Thats what i ment. Didn't mean to put a Elcan on top of a scope... can't even imagine what that would be like O_o

Bah, sorry from reading your posts I was under the assumption that you were going to put an ELCAN or ACOG on, I was even going to suggest putting on an EOTECH, but decided against it.

FOX_111 July 6th, 2007 18:04

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Originally Posted by Nova316 (Post 497749)
I dont think u should get anything over 3x zoom since I dont think your bb's can go that far

Having higher magnification in airsoft is not about shooting farther, it's about seeing farther. Most of the shooting, if not all, is done a 3x. But when it's time to ID a target or survey an erea at long range, 9 or 10x is very very usefull.

40mm optic is the minimum IMO, 50mm is not overkill, it allow more light to come in the scope for better visibility, and whider field of view.

Ronan July 6th, 2007 18:08

Ok thx Fox :)
Man we should meet up with Cassius and grab a beer and some pizza and talk about guns and how much a noob i can be on forums^^ Both you guys live 25 mins from my place lol

So i'll go with a 3-9x50mm or 3-12x50mm from a good brand then :) Probably with a Bushnell since thats what you use and got good review for it :D

Cassius July 6th, 2007 21:08

Barska scopes are built in China yet they are not replicas. Barska has been selling scopes for over 10 years and their optics are nowadays found on US soldiers in warzones.

I myself own a Barska 4x SKS Scope which cost me around 100$ with shipping. I mounted it on high rings on my SR16 and I use it for precision shooting and to scan the field ahead

If you want a good real steel scope yet don't feel like spending 600$ on a scope I strongly recommend Barska. I currently have a Bushnell Sportsman 3-9x 40mm scope on my M24 and it is also a very good and reliable scope.

Getting a scope with tactical knobs is a bit overkill for airsoft as you can't really make proper windage and elevation adjustments with your engagement distance.

I wouldn't get a Leupold but I wouldn't get a replica as well. I'd feel a bit stupid placing a 1000$ Leupold M3 scope on my SR16 but at the same time I wouldn't feel better saying it's an M3 wannabe chinese knock off that I bought for 30$ shipping included. That of course, is my personnal opinion. I think there is a sweet spot in between cheap replicas and pricey real steel scopes.

Amos July 6th, 2007 23:15

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 497685)
Am i not better off with a sniper scope and one of those on top?

If you're gonna be "Sniping" You'll need more than a 350 gun... My old M16VN BBhose shot that hard..

As for the optics on top of the scope.. If some one's THAT close to you that you need to switch up to a RDS... You probobly shouldn't be taking the shot with your sniper rifle (Minimum engagement ranges for snipers).. That's when you'd pull out the pistol.

That whole scope/RDS thing is basically just a "OOH THATS TACTICOOL!!111!!"

I'm a designated marksman, and I use plain 'ol peep sights.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan
So i'll go with a 3-9x50mm or 3-12x50mm from a good brand then :) Probably with a Bushnell since thats what you use and got good review for it :D

I've found that 3X is the maximum for scopes when it comes to airsoft... If you Could, I'd suggest a 1x-X scope, Because you'll be using the 1X feature a hell of alot more... especially if you're only shooting 350 with an AR varient.

You should see if some one'll let you try out one of their guns that's 3X- whatever first... Because There's a huge chance you will not like it.


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