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Frank Lopez July 26th, 2007 00:52

Check Out My Eye!!!!
 
check it out i got shot in the eye and my gas mask broke and the it hit my eye hah check this out
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Newtothis July 26th, 2007 00:57

... Holy crap. I would of cried like a baby!

Skladfin July 26th, 2007 00:58

did ur eyesight get worse?

Beazer July 26th, 2007 00:59

Those gas masks are not ballistic rated.
Your lucky worse didn't happen.
Next time BUY BALLISTIC rated glasses.

Moz July 26th, 2007 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beazer (Post 508136)
Those gas masks are not ballistic rated.
Your lucky worse didn't happen.
Next time BUY BALLISTIC rated glasses.

At the very least wear some shooting glasses underneath the gas mask for chrissakes. Whoever let you play with just a gas mask as just of a moron that you are.

Frank Lopez July 26th, 2007 01:03

yeah that was the first day it got worse haha it loked horrible but i mean it didnt hurt took like a month to go away and yeah its a real gas mask in fact its the canadian one it should have been able to take the damage i shot i point blank didnt break but i guess the guy who shot me was shooting fast and maybe falty glass but w.e i was only mad cuz i got shot in the eye cuz some guy didnt call his shot but yeah it didnt even hurt

Beazer July 26th, 2007 01:31

should and can are a damaged eyeball apart from each other.

Think before you jump off a bridge if you ever do that too!

Lerch July 26th, 2007 01:39

...I shot it, therefore it must be ballistic...

:D yay! I'd slap you, but you already got your eyes poked.

Manaconda July 26th, 2007 01:41

first off How the fuck do you see anything with that on yer damn mellon? And B who's the newb who let you on the field with that thing? And another thing... That thing is meant to stop wait it's coming.... GAS. Not shrapnel.

Go to the end of the line I think some one is handing out clues.

Frank Lopez July 26th, 2007 01:45

w.e it does the job ive used it for over a yr and it never happen i dont care fuck it but yeah

MadMax July 26th, 2007 01:52

Plastics tend to degrade with age. It's quite possible that the lenses on your gas mask are not polycarbonate (PC) as PC is very prone to embrittlement when exposed to oils and many chemicals. A gas mask wouldn't be much good if the lenses went to shit due to chemical exposure, so it's possible that the lenses are a chemical resistant plastic that is not particularly impact resistant.

When you shot your mask lenses, was the mask strapped to a manniquin head? If it was loosely hanging, the mask may have been allowed to recoil from the impact of the pellet which absorbs some impact energy. Also, your testing procedure is probably not very rigorous in assuring that many angles of impact are tested against. Did you shoot with a calibrated rifle?

Leave ballistic testing to ASTM laboratories when it comes to eyewear.

Lakonian July 26th, 2007 02:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax (Post 508166)

Leave ballistic testing to ASTM laboratories when it comes to eyewear.

+1.

Goggles should be everyone's first purchase. No cheap shit either.

surebet July 26th, 2007 04:48

Irony! I'm watching the Darwin Awards movie at the moment...

Seriously though, your eyes can't be replaced, take care of them!

Did you go to a hospital?

seekah August 7th, 2007 19:40

My God talk about natural selection at its best!

C.G August 7th, 2007 19:49

Ze Goggles.. Zey do Naaathing...

Nik12 August 7th, 2007 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by C.G (Post 514917)
Ze Goggles.. Zey do Naaathing...

haha. You took the words out of my mouth.

I was considering a gasmask myself, but I was planning on replacing the standard eye coverings with something stronger that won't shatter when hit. Lexan perhaps?

Ibby August 7th, 2007 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Lopez (Post 508142)
yeah its a real gas mask in fact its the canadian one it should have been able to take the damage

Ah, no. It used to be the Canadian one but we got rid of them years ago. Compared to the new one, they are POS's. The lenses are glass, and not even tempered. Had you been wearing the new one, you'd have been ok as they have polycarbonate ANSI rated lenses. Better yet, get a decent pair of actual goggles. Take a bit of advice from a guy who's already lost one eye. Trust me, it sucks.
I'd sure like to know what field allowed you to play with that mask on.

wiinter August 7th, 2007 22:42

wow man, this shit scaring me now :P who makes a GOOD set of goggles that can resist up to 500 fps?

and another thing, some one told me they use a 700 fps airsoft gun on the field... is that legal? i thought you could only use the 495fps and lower in airsoft

surebet August 7th, 2007 22:48

I'm tempted to say that this shouldn't be an issue for you yet, but whatever.

Paintball googles are all certified appropriately, otherwise go with any ballistic googles that give you a full seal. ESS is my personnal favorite, Oakley SI are also nice if you find them (not to be confused with snowboard googles and the like).

In case of doubt, hunt down the ANSI standard for paintball googles, look up the specs and compare the ANSI rating of whatever you're considering buying. If it's not rated by ANSI or another underwriter, avoid like the plague.

Andres August 7th, 2007 22:55

Yeah, I tested my gasmask for BB-proof-ness. It asploded like yours.

swatt13 August 7th, 2007 23:33

dude you were playing AS in a gmask!? thats nuckin futz. you were asking for trouble, thank god thats all that happened... let that be a warning. anzi rates lens' only from now on.

Brian McIlmoyle August 7th, 2007 23:37

Why would anyone even consider
 
Using a gas mask?

Rather than proper Goggles.... where does such a thought come from?

You know.... I'm real tired of people complaining about the cost of equipment, the cost of guns, .... but cheaping out on EYE protection!!!!????

If you gotta cheap out on basic protection.... just to get in the game... forget it... this ain't the thing for you.

Participation in this activity is not your right... no one is "entitled" to participate.... if you can't afford it... don't make yourself a liability by not being prepared.

Scooby Steve August 7th, 2007 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Lopez (Post 508142)
yeah that was the first day it got worse haha it loked horrible but i mean it didnt hurt took like a month to go away and yeah its a real gas mask in fact its the canadian one it should have been able to take the damage i shot i point blank didnt break but i guess the guy who shot me was shooting fast and maybe falty glass but w.e i was only mad cuz i got shot in the eye cuz some guy didnt call his shot but yeah it didnt even hurt

What broke your "shift" and "period" keys?

dontask August 7th, 2007 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby Steve (Post 515108)
What broke your "shift" and "period" keys?

his grammar. :D

Eddie August 7th, 2007 23:56

A few years ago some guy came out in Oakley ski goggles and we told him 'no' paintball goggles only went to change goggles... came back with a gasmask on. He got sent home on the count of stupidity.

Scarecrow August 8th, 2007 00:05

I can't say anything that hasn't been said except to marvel at the sheer Darwinism at work...

Deftonius August 8th, 2007 00:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Lopez (Post 508157)
w.e it does the job ive used it for over a yr and it never happen i dont care fuck it but yeah

Clearly...it DOESN'T do the job. Seeing as how you almost lost your eye, that's as far away from "doing the job" your eye protection can get.

mcguyver August 8th, 2007 00:11

Maybe it's the kids and the video-game/movie generation. They see SWAT teams on TV entering a building wearing gas masks after they roll in the tear gas. It may look cool, but if SWAT members get shot at, the last thing they worry about is losing an eye. They have more vital areas to worry about.

Looking cool ain't everything. Safety first!!!

ancorp August 8th, 2007 00:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by C.G (Post 514917)
Ze Goggles.. Zey do Naaathing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biE_xQRQUQM

Ronan August 8th, 2007 00:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 515138)
Looking cool ain't everything. Safety first!!!

Quoted for TRUTH.

wiinter August 8th, 2007 00:24

i really dont even see the point of a gas mask in airsoft... has anybody ever lobbed a tear gas grenade at you?

szetor August 8th, 2007 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiinter (Post 515158)
i really dont even see the point of a gas mask in airsoft... has anybody ever lobbed a tear gas grenade at you?

it does offer some face protection right? kinda like a paintball mask

wiinter August 8th, 2007 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by szetor (Post 515179)
it does offer some face protection right? kinda like a paintball mask

well, think in terms of real life, the real ones arent made for being shot at, they are meant to protect against the incapacitating effects of gases..
however, since we do not play with tear gas in this game, they are merely for the looks factor (which i cant understand who finds them attractive) and grant no real protection, its kinda like wearing a rubber balaclava with (in this case) cheap lenses... so i cant really see how this mask helps at all, unless you are acting out a scene for a movie

surebet August 8th, 2007 01:50

Trying to run with a gas mask on is like... trying to run while breathing with a straw as your only source of air.

If you want full face protection like a paintball mask...

*cue dramatic pause*

... buy a paintball mask!

Ironicaly, that gas mask must have been more expensive than entry level paintball googles.

wiinter August 8th, 2007 02:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by surebet (Post 515205)
Trying to run with a gas mask on is like... trying to run while breathing with a straw as your only source of air.

If you want full face protection like a paintball mask...

*cue dramatic pause*

... buy a paintball mask!

Ironicaly, that gas mask must have been more expensive than entry level paintball googles.

lmao, couldnt have put it any better than that. clearly money is of no consequence to you, if you buy these useless over priced pretty much novelty head peices, so why not invest in something that has proven worthy of the money you are dishing out? pants, shirts, jackets, gloves ect. these are things that you can afford to be less cautious on, but you just cant replace an eye, so at least if you must wear a gasmask, then wear a pair of small reinforced goggles underneath

arman August 8th, 2007 02:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by surebet (Post 508204)
Irony! I'm watching the Darwin Awards movie at the moment...

Seriously though, your eyes can't be replaced, take care of them!

Did you go to a hospital?

yea thats what im thinking... i love my eyes!!

Styrak August 8th, 2007 03:49

It's kinda like wearing a condom make out of Kleenex.

MadMorbius August 8th, 2007 08:16

Darwin called. He's sorry he missed you.

LyquidFyre August 8th, 2007 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by szetor (Post 515179)
it does offer some face protection right? kinda like a paintball mask

Obviously no it didn't offer some face protection cuz the dude's eye was messed up. Seriously....why am I replying to this post?

Blackthorne August 8th, 2007 09:22

QUICK, people are too stupid to play airsoft, we must BAN IT!

Skruface August 8th, 2007 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackthorne (Post 515316)
QUICK, people are too stupid to play airsoft, we must BAN IT!

Taliban Jack, is that you? ;)

Blackthorne August 8th, 2007 09:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skruface (Post 515318)
Taliban Jack, is that you? ;)

BAW HAW HAW HAW! :D

szetor August 8th, 2007 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edmode (Post 515313)
Obviously no it didn't offer some face protection cuz the dude's eye was messed up. Seriously....why am I replying to this post?

yea man like his face just consists of his eyes... seriously

TokyoSeven August 8th, 2007 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiinter (Post 515182)
well, think in terms of real life, the real ones arent made for being shot at, they are meant to protect against the incapacitating effects of gases..

Folks might need one on the field if there teamed up with me and my MRE for that day happens to have alot of beans of pasta.

LyquidFyre August 8th, 2007 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by szetor (Post 515396)
yea man like his face just consists of his eyes... seriously

So getting shot in the eye isn't reason enough to NOT wear a gas mask? Sure it mighta bounced a few shots towards fleshy bits like his cheeks and chin but when it came to a critical spot like his FREAKING EYEBALL it failed miserably.

Ok so you win, big man. It did offer some protection to his face but it failed when it really needed to protect him. So go ahead if you want "some protection" for your face and then get shot in the eye. This isn't a situation where "some" is better than none. That "some" will give you a false sense of security, so much so that you may not take your face out of the line of fire cuz, "Oh I have a full gas mask on. It covers all of my face! I have nothing to fear! Deeerrrrr!"

When it comes to protecting something that you only get 2 of in life, I'd go all out and get the best I can. I'd even recommend replacing goggles regularly as they'll take hits and each successive hit will weaken the visor that little bit more.

ThunderCactus August 8th, 2007 16:56

I use a gas mask indoors because its more of a milsim face cover than a mesh facemask, definetly doesnt hurt when i got shot in the face anymore but atleast i TESTED my gas mask before i used it in a game!
it had 1/8" thick plastic lenses and they cracked from a 350fps hit, i then replaced them with 3/32" lexan thats rated above 30 joules. Same goes for the 3 other people in winnipeg with S10 respirators

Nik12 August 8th, 2007 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiinter (Post 515182)
(which i cant understand who finds them attractive)

It's got nothing to do with attractive. If there is one thing a gasmask can do (aside from help you breathe in less than quality gases), it can make y ou look intimidating. If a group of men bursted through your door right now brandishing weapons of sorts, would you be more fearful if you could see their face or if it was hidden? Most people will say it's more unnerving if their face (and especially eyes) are hidden. Yes, many other face covers can acheive this, but nothing really is as notorious as a gasmask.

And secondly, I'm not about to sit here and listen to you (well, not just you, I mean in general) tell me that there isn't an 'image' factor in Airsoft. I'm sure there are good reasons Airsofters don't look like speedballers, or just people in jeans/t-shirts. If a gas mask gives you the image you want (and you are fine with having limited vision and breating through a straw), then who's to rag on you for wanting to use it, but only if you've taken the proper safety proceedures (like replacing the lenses with a tougher material).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 515506)
I use a gas mask indoors because its more of a milsim face cover than a mesh facemask, definetly doesnt hurt when i got shot in the face anymore but atleast i TESTED my gas mask before i used it in a game!
it had 1/8" thick plastic lenses and they cracked from a 350fps hit, i then replaced them with 3/32" lexan thats rated above 30 joules. Same goes for the 3 other people in winnipeg with S10 respirators

Any hints on where I can find said 3/32" Lexan?

MadMorbius August 8th, 2007 19:46

Home Depot?

surebet August 8th, 2007 19:48

Yeah, I bought some at Rona. Quite cheap actually.

Nik12 August 8th, 2007 19:51

Well then. Looks like I'll be taking a trip to my local hardware shoppe.

surebet August 8th, 2007 19:52

IIRC, it's around 3$-5$ a square foot, or was it square inch...?

CFA August 8th, 2007 20:46

I can't help but laugh at how fast this went form showing off a gimped eye, to a bashing on people to cheap for eye protection, to a discussion on why people wear gas masks...

Dirty Deeds August 8th, 2007 20:47

All I can say is WOW, and look over at Scarecrow and nod my head in agreement.

disgusted August 8th, 2007 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 515506)
I use a gas mask indoors because its more of a milsim face cover than a mesh facemask, definetly doesnt hurt when i got shot in the face anymore but atleast i TESTED my gas mask before i used it in a game!
it had 1/8" thick plastic lenses and they cracked from a 350fps hit, i then replaced them with 3/32" lexan thats rated above 30 joules. Same goes for the 3 other people in winnipeg with S10 respirators

Gas masks are NOT in any way shape or form, acceptable face protection. Thundercactus thats not milsim, thats stupid.

Ronan August 8th, 2007 21:14

Why not... wear eye protection + a gas mask (for those of us that want 2).

surebet August 8th, 2007 21:37

You'll be hard pressed to mate a good pair of goggles to a gas mask. Best option still is to replace the lenses of the gas mask, but you'll be treading in non ANSI certified territory...

Nik12 August 8th, 2007 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFA (Post 515681)
I can't help but laugh at how fast this went form showing off a gimped eye, to a bashing on people to cheap for eye protection, to a discussion on why people wear gas masks...

Welcome to ASC :)

On a side note, I don't really plan to game a gas mask (although I do hear hollowing out the innards of the filter canister makes it much less like breathing through a straw), but I do have a certain unexplainable fascination with a well play upon gas mask, so it's nice to have one handy and accessible (this means I'll have to get a gasmask pouch...oh my poor wallet).

WannaBeNoob August 8th, 2007 22:53

Ouch!

happytit August 9th, 2007 11:35

like my airsoft mentor told me at my first game when i complained about the goggles i had on..

you can't put a price on eyesight.!

MAKE SHURE THE GOGGLES ARE RAITED FOR WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO

a caniden gass mask has glass in the eye sockets.. " as far as my understaning goes" anything made of glass can shatter .. even if you hit it a million times there are always weekness in it. all it takes is one hit in the right place and it will shatter.. thats why only bulletproof glass is ballistic raited. all ballistic goggles are made of a type of abs plastic that makes them more resistant to impacts.

a gass mask is used for gas.... not airsoft ...

sunglasses are for sun.... not airsoft ...

shop glasses are for the shop.... not airsoft ...

pick up some real BALLISTIC goggles and use those ..

WHAT DID WE ALL LEARN TODAY?


..... YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON EYESIGHT .......
...... don't take the chance .......
...... use only ballistic rated goggles ....

wiinter August 9th, 2007 11:57

then again, theres nothing wrong with having style and being practical.. i dont plan on buying a full mask or a helmet or anything like that, my desired look is really minimal protection(ballistic resistant one piece goggles and a black balaclava)... but if its hitting you in the cheek or w.e its not that big of a deal, bruises and welts disapear over time, all that really matters is you take care of the more vulnerable areas.

but im done talking about this :P some one should just let this thread die, weve all made our points and really theres nothing left to be said other than some random dick coming in here and starting a fight for no reason because he disagrees with our oppinions

Frank Lopez August 11th, 2007 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby Steve (Post 515108)
What broke your "shift" and "period" keys?

haha yup exactly

Frank Lopez August 11th, 2007 02:22

yeah i only used it for indoor use(the gasmask) the limit is 350. i have the proper eye protection but thanks for caring. i want to replace the lens i took it all apart so i can replace it with better matterial.

Frank Lopez August 11th, 2007 02:54

Dont worry about my eye, if it wasn't for my extremely bushy eyebrows I probably would have lost the eye that day. Doc said that they deflected 97% of the glass.

Lakonian August 11th, 2007 03:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Lopez (Post 517232)
Dont worry about my eye, if it wasn't for my extremely bushy eyebrows I probably would have lost the eye that day. Doc said that they deflected 97% of the glass.

I still think you're a door knob for not using proper protection.

surebet August 11th, 2007 03:49

Wait, what? You're giving this a second try?

Styrak August 11th, 2007 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by surebet (Post 517262)
Wait, what? You're giving this a second try?

Darwin at work.

wiinter August 11th, 2007 17:30

some fools never learn :P oh well, at least, if anything maybe one day we can call him "patchy" and listen to his old pirate stories of how he lost his eye..
actually, today i was kinda thinking of getting a gasmask to scare the shit out of civilians... but im not gonna step into an airsoft battle with it

surebet August 11th, 2007 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiinter (Post 517619)
some fools never learn :P oh well, at least, if anything maybe one day we can call him "patchy" and listen to his old pirate stories of how he lost his eye..
actually, today i was kinda thinking of getting a gasmask to scare the shit out of civilians... but im not gonna step into an airsoft battle with it

Enjoy your buttsecks!

Lakonian August 11th, 2007 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiinter (Post 517619)
actually, today i was kinda thinking of getting a gasmask to scare the shit out of civilians...

Are you implying you're not a civilian?

Beazer August 11th, 2007 18:44

we learned today someone can't spell.
Just don't wear Gas mask's with wire in them, then you'll end up catching a fragment inyour socket.

Ronan August 11th, 2007 18:51

Oh for the humanity!! Let it die!!!! :p

AV8RJOE August 11th, 2007 21:44

Forget it Kid.... you'll shoot your eye out!


[IMG]www.paulmcelligott.com/images/christmas_story.jpg[/IMG]

Frank Lopez August 13th, 2007 03:18

yeah i know i have my other mask which actually does what its suppose to do dont worrie thanks

MadMorbius August 13th, 2007 11:05

Stop gas?

Go for it. Retard.

[Lithium] August 13th, 2007 12:14

You know, the media would have a field day if you DID end up losing your eye....

Brian McIlmoyle August 13th, 2007 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Lithium] (Post 518627)
You know, the media would have a field day if you DID end up losing your eye....

And how exactly would "the media" find out?

What are they lurking around... just waiting to write a story that will "get airsoft banned" ease up on the meth... its making you paranoid.

Lakonian August 13th, 2007 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 518628)
And how exactly would "the media" find out?

What are they lurking around... just waiting to write a story that will "get airsoft banned" ease up on the meth... its making you paranoid.

LMAO

Oh, and this thread should be stickied.

....For epic stupidity.

[Lithium] August 13th, 2007 13:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 518628)
And how exactly would "the media" find out?

What are they lurking around... just waiting to write a story that will "get airsoft banned" ease up on the meth... its making you paranoid.

You never know... The media has its ways lol... But say they DID find out.. a public disturbance with people shooting at others.. bad. Guy losing an eye? worse.


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