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Donster August 5th, 2007 00:55

Propane vs. Green Gas
 
Well,

I have been searching the forums a lot, and i have no real definative answer. If i were to buy a GBB airsoft pistol, can i run it on regular over-the-counter propane, or is Green Gas the preferred choice. again, i have read many different things on the forums, so i put this thread up to have it answered indefinately.

Thanks to all who post,

Donster 125

Dicey August 5th, 2007 00:58

Well, it all depends if you want to save on Bottles of propane ($3 /btl)... but deal with the Horible stentch it provides. If you're fielding your gun, use propane I hear that most people that field their GBB's all use Standard Propane for Cost reasons.However If you use your GBB for the occasional shoot(Indoor), then i Strongly suggest the use of non-sented Green Gas.

surebet August 5th, 2007 01:03

Propane is chemically identical to green gas. The only thing green gas has to offer (for 10 times the price) is oil pre-mixed in it, and usually without the safety features (burst disk on bottle, Ethanethiol in the gas).

Just add a drop of oil every few refils in the adaptor.

wiinter August 5th, 2007 01:03

if you run a tight budget, use propane.
however, ive heard certain gasses can damage the seals and cause damage to your gun.. so is propane one of those?

Dicey August 5th, 2007 01:10

Duster Gas is also very economical and effective aswell, at a good $7/Btl. But like propane it needs a drop of silicone oil to keep the O-ring healthly. I actually prefer Duster to Green Gas because of avialbillity, but when theres the money for it, Green Gas is the way to go. Also on a side-note, the Duster Adapter from AI is alot cheeper than the Propane adapter V4/5. (Eventhough its very well constructed.), and can be used from both? i believe?

surebet August 5th, 2007 01:16

Propane is green gas. Period.

One is cheaper and safer. Period.

This ain't rocket science people...

Donster August 5th, 2007 01:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by surebet (Post 513429)
Propane is green gas. Period.

One is cheaper and safer. Period.

This ain't rocket science people...

which one is safer? cause i take it that propane is cheaper.

surebet August 5th, 2007 01:21

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Originally Posted by DONSTER 125 (Post 513431)
which one is safer? cause i take it that propane is cheaper.

Propane is safer. There is a reason why flammable gases shouldn't smell fruity. Green gas usually smells very pleasant, so you won't catch a leak as fast, if at all.

Also certain makes of green gas canisters have no visible burst disks, so in case of catastrophic failure it will go boom instead of just scarring the cats.

wiinter August 5th, 2007 01:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by surebet (Post 513433)
Propane is safer. There is a reason why flammable gases shouldn't smell fruity. Green gas usually smells very pleasant, so you won't catch a leak as fast, if at all.

Also certain makes of green gas canisters have no visible burst disks, so in case of catastrophic failure it will go boom instead of just scarring the cats.

that was actually very insightful, something tells me you know alot about these guns, i must remember to use propane with my first GBB

surebet August 5th, 2007 01:59

I don't know that much, but I do know how to use google and wikipedia! :)

wiinter August 5th, 2007 02:09

lol, im just trying to find stuff out by reading the forums, so far i have concluded that although many people say AEG are most fun (especially for new players) gas pistols usually have less problems and are built pretty sturdy, although if not taken care of can be more dangerous, as they do use compressed gas.

although it helps that my step dad use to work in a gun store so he knows how to fix GBBs and he can teach me alot about them.

Donster August 5th, 2007 02:18

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Originally Posted by wiinter (Post 513446)
lol, im just trying to find stuff out by reading the forums, so far i have concluded that although many people say AEG are most fun (especially for new players) gas pistols usually have less problems and are built pretty sturdy, although if not taken care of can be more dangerous, as they do use compressed gas.

although it helps that my step dad use to work in a gun store so he knows how to fix GBBs and he can teach me alot about them.

i think when people say that AEGs are a better choice for newbs like us, i think that they are referring to the rifles, not the pistols.

surebet August 5th, 2007 02:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiinter (Post 513446)
lol, im just trying to find stuff out by reading the forums, so far i have concluded that although many people say AEG are most fun (especially for new players) gas pistols usually have less problems and are built pretty sturdy, although if not taken care of can be more dangerous, as they do use compressed gas.

although it helps that my step dad use to work in a gun store so he knows how to fix GBBs and he can teach me alot about them.

GBBs are relatively more problem prone, actually.

A stock Tokyo Marui can perform problem free for years, whereas a single dive in sand can wreak havoc on a GBB.

Slick August 5th, 2007 02:34

aegs are recommended if you plan on playing airsoft. If you bring a gbb to a airsoft game your going to be seriously out gunned. If you plan on just target shooting then you can go either way.

Id say for reliability they are about equal depending of course on the brand. But comparably a TM AEG would be just as reliable as a TM GBB. But if they were to break down it would be easier to get parts for a aeg.

Propane all the way. Dont waste your time and money on cans of green gas. Its just propane disguised as green gas with a bit of oil pre mixed in it.

wiinter August 5th, 2007 02:36

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Originally Posted by DONSTER 125 (Post 513448)
i think when people say that AEGs are a better choice for newbs like us, i think that they are referring to the rifles, not the pistols.

oh, im sorry, i didnt distinguish between the two, i meant AEGs as a whole actually, ive heard nothing good about AEG pistols, exept for from people who use them for backyard plinking. however, i do say that a TM G18c would make a nice side arm, if you took proper care of it

BTW sorry for getting off topic :P

wiinter August 5th, 2007 02:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick (Post 513450)
aegs are recommended if you plan on playing airsoft. If you bring a gbb to a airsoft game your going to be seriously out gunned. If you plan on just target shooting then you can go either way.

Id say for reliability they are about equal depending of course on the brand. But comparably a TM AEG would be just as reliable as a TM GBB. But if they were to break down it would be easier to get parts for a aeg.

Propane all the way. Dont waste your time and money on cans of green gas. Its just propane disguised as green gas with a bit of oil pre mixed in it.

lol taking all of these things into consideration, its a very hard choice to make, maybe i shouldnt play until ive got the money to get a main and side-arm, and know more about the proper maintenance of the guns and the rules of the game

surebet August 5th, 2007 02:47

Pistols are very fun to shoot, but are not even near the top of the list of things to buy first.

wiinter August 5th, 2007 03:06

yea, true, i just went looking on 007 airsoft for AEGs by tokyo marui, and i found what i want as my main weapon.

but i also saw a TM G18c for 150 bucks... im hesitant to get that, because alot of people say "you get what you pay for" the capacity was also only 15 shots, anybody know if this is a good deal? or is there a better model?

http://www.007airsoft.com/products/htm/aeg-tm.htm

its the one at the bottem

surebet August 5th, 2007 03:12

There are two types of electric pistols. The AEPs are reliable pistols that shoot at CBQ speeds (250ish fps with 0.20) and the EBBs which are horrible pieces of shit (a straw and a pair of lungs out perform these).

The gun you found is the latter type. Avoid like the plague!

Rule of thumb, if it costs under 300$, in most cases run away!

wiinter August 5th, 2007 03:16

lol thanks, another helpful tip :) ill remember to look for AEP and not EBB

Zeonprime August 5th, 2007 04:43

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Originally Posted by wiinter (Post 513452)
lol taking all of these things into consideration, its a very hard choice to make, maybe i shouldnt play until ive got the money to get a main and side-arm, and know more about the proper maintenance of the guns and the rules of the game


and turn 18 :)

wiinter August 5th, 2007 06:29

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Originally Posted by Zeonprime (Post 513483)
and turn 18 :)

haha i knew that was coming :P
yea, true though, cuz i cant play at most evens until im 18... ive read some event notices and it seems that only sometimes they let 16 yr olds play... seeing as im turning 17 in sept.. i think it wont be so hard to wait, in the mean time, i can get my drivers license and practice with the guns in my back yard until im old enough, and maybe buy a couple of those clearsoft ones to practice with my friends

Donster August 5th, 2007 13:53

ya. i am 18, im just waiting to get age verified. my biggest fear is disassembly of the mech-box. im araid im gonna screw up on doing it.

surebet August 5th, 2007 14:43

http://www.mechbox.com/site/

dodger_me August 5th, 2007 14:43

propane is NOT green gas, Yes the main components are the same but that is it. The additives are made for different uses ex. propane has things in it that help it burn better, this can eat away at plastic. the pressure is WAY different ex. propane stoves need a high pressure source to run so when you put that in your gun it will make your gun shoot faster but if your parts are not strong enough they will eventually break. So most guns with a metal slide can take propane, however apparently some of the newer tm gbbs can take propane stock such as the p226. Im about to get a NIB tm p226 and im going to run prop. on it from the start and see how it goes. RUN IT TILL YA BREAK IT BOYS

surebet August 5th, 2007 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodger_me (Post 513621)
propane is NOT green gas, Yes the main components are the same but that is it. The additives are made for different uses ex. propane has things in it that help it burn better, this can eat away at plastic. the pressure is WAY different ex. propane stoves need a high pressure source to run so when you put that in your gun it will make your gun shoot faster but if your parts are not strong enough they will eventually break. So most guns with a metal slide can take propane, however apparently some of the newer tm gbbs can take propane stock such as the p226. Im about to get a NIB tm p226 and im going to run prop. on it from the start and see how it goes. RUN IT TILL YA BREAK IT BOYS

http://www.airsoft-innovations.com/lab1.html

Styrak August 5th, 2007 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodger_me (Post 513621)
propane is NOT green gas, Yes the main components are the same but that is it. The additives are made for different uses ex. propane has things in it that help it burn better, this can eat away at plastic. the pressure is WAY different ex. propane stoves need a high pressure source to run so when you put that in your gun it will make your gun shoot faster but if your parts are not strong enough they will eventually break. So most guns with a metal slide can take propane, however apparently some of the newer tm gbbs can take propane stock such as the p226. Im about to get a NIB tm p226 and im going to run prop. on it from the start and see how it goes. RUN IT TILL YA BREAK IT BOYS

Go read up on some shit before you express your invalid opinion.

Pyro August 5th, 2007 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodger_me (Post 513621)
propane is NOT green gas, Yes the main components are the same but that is it. The additives are made for different uses ex. propane has things in it that help it burn better, this can eat away at plastic. the pressure is WAY different ex. propane stoves need a high pressure source to run so when you put that in your gun it will make your gun shoot faster but if your parts are not strong enough they will eventually break. So most guns with a metal slide can take propane, however apparently some of the newer tm gbbs can take propane stock such as the p226. Im about to get a NIB tm p226 and im going to run prop. on it from the start and see how it goes. RUN IT TILL YA BREAK IT BOYS

Don't try to explain things that you don't understand.

Naerah August 6th, 2007 08:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodger_me (Post 513621)
propane is NOT green gas, Yes the main components are the same but that is it. The additives are made for different uses ex. propane has things in it that help it burn better, this can eat away at plastic. the pressure is WAY different ex. propane stoves need a high pressure source to run so when you put that in your gun it will make your gun shoot faster but if your parts are not strong enough they will eventually break. So most guns with a metal slide can take propane, however apparently some of the newer tm gbbs can take propane stock such as the p226. Im about to get a NIB tm p226 and im going to run prop. on it from the start and see how it goes. RUN IT TILL YA BREAK IT BOYS

Laughed thinking at the upcoming rape your about to get. Sorry, could not resist.

krap101 August 6th, 2007 11:43

HRM.. Green gas is smelly propane :D

Bowers August 7th, 2007 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodger_me (Post 513621)
propane is NOT green gas, Yes the main components are the same but that is it. The additives are made for different uses ex. propane has things in it that help it burn better, this can eat away at plastic. the pressure is WAY different ex. propane stoves need a high pressure source to run so when you put that in your gun it will make your gun shoot faster but if your parts are not strong enough they will eventually break. So most guns with a metal slide can take propane, however apparently some of the newer tm gbbs can take propane stock such as the p226. Im about to get a NIB tm p226 and im going to run prop. on it from the start and see how it goes. RUN IT TILL YA BREAK IT BOYS

Im just quoteing this guy to carry on this chain we have made make it last forever boys!!!! and to the OP good luck on whatever kit you get wheter its a Green gas or you get a AEG good luck to ya by'

surebet August 7th, 2007 17:11

0.o

ekfc63 September 4th, 2007 17:11

Correct Gas for TM GBB
 
Nowhere I have seen actually tells anewbie what the correct gas for a typical GBB is. I have a TM P226 and really know what gas the gun is designed to use.

Also is green gas/propane too powerful for a plastic GBB?

Greylocks September 4th, 2007 17:43

You can read about GBB care and feeding in the Information section. Same for the upgrades (if any) needed to run on propane (Upgrades section).

In general, it is better to have a metal gun to use propane. You can also use computer duster gas (check which kind) and a drop of silicone oil.


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