My Pants! Tanio-Koba Full Metal gas-in-mag GBB C8
 

http://airsoft-news.eu/


- basic model is C8 with 14.8 inch barrel, quality of die casted body is same as KOBA-10/22
- accessories (ie handle) are interchangeable with AEGs
- charging handle is functioning and opens a bolt cover. Forward assist is also functioning.
- Magazines are based on idea of Mr. Koba magazines enable full reliable full auto fire
- simple and realistic action
- HopUp is adjusted via dial in the top of the upper receiver
- magazines are die cast, but are similar in shape and dimension to real ones
- Koba C8 has more realistic dimensions, when compared to the AEGs.

In case you haven't seen his GBB M4 built on the same design:
http://www.taniokoba.co.jp/before5min/taniokoba_M4.mpg

Mother of god


Its beautiful....should have sent a poet.....

my ***** just hit the underside of my desk... I'm a little bit winded here.

from the pics it looks like there is a slot on the side of the mag where the follower might stop the action when there are no more bbs: working bolt catch!

how would you use the forward assist on an airsoft gun, on rs it's used to seat the bolt if it isn't fully forward right? current aegs that market a "working forward assist" seem to mean that you can push it, but it doesn't do anything to the operation of the gun

Link says forbiden for me..

that is bad ass.
im designing a simular system for my UMP.
there is just so much room in the UMP mag for gas.

yeah airsoft-news.eu does that sometimes just use there main site address c-8 is right there at the top.

Is your UMP a STAR or G&G? If it's a STAR, let me know when you're done ,cause I'd love to make mine a gasser.

Im looking into getting a UMP. Would you recommend a STAR, or G&G, or any UMP at all? I could just get an Mp5 as a backup instead

Sounds promising. Too bad it'll be a hundred bi-jil-ion $$ CAD

thermold mags..... *shutter*

Although, I am glad to see big manufacturers giving Canucks some attention.

get the G&G UMG, the quality is second to none.

systema what...?

This looks pretty damn cool... wonder how much its going to cost... probably an arm and a leg... but still... awesome.

STFU MAN! STFU!!!!!

Y'know.. I've been watching the TK C8 development for a while.. AND STILL, it doesn't impress me nearly as much as the PTW... What other ASG has a functioning bolt-catch? Seriously...

(ptw-ftw)

KOs dont worry man Im still on the systema wagon lol..

the TK when it comes out.:D

and for those of you who may not be able to see the image
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...tails_1308.jpg

Y'know, I'm getting real tired of you :p (jk.. I love beaver.. )

But.. this will definitely be looked at.. I still fucking hate C8s though..

i had to make my move before someone else did.

Actually.. looking over those pics.. The TK looks more realistic than the PTW.

Where does it say the TK has a bolt catch?

The LA studios has a bolt catch. Systema ain't the only one, and the LA studios actually has a bolt. Ha.

Does LA studios still exist? I remember reading something about them a long time ago..

http://www.lastudiojapan.com/systema_LASpecial.htm

Hmm... they mention Systema a number of times. Could this be a gas blowback conversion for the Systema? Ultimate upgraded with more... ultimate.

Yeah, maybe. I was reading something about them (that kinda hinted this) on arnies (I think)..

Now if only you could buy drop in gas systems with working bolts... i've seen them installed on a variety of different guns like the VFC HK416, M4S and an AK74. I would gladly plunk down a huge amount of money for a gas conversion kit... knowing TK and the past history of other various gas pieces this gun is going to cost me 2 of my left nuts, but if its around $1000 after import I would definitely concider one.

Actually it's second to the Star lol. The body on the G&G is very ABS like and creaky, compared to the Star shell wich is rock solid. Also the Star has the dummy rounds showing through the side of the mag. Internally The Star has a V3 mecbox, but I don't know whats in the G&G.For the overall feel & look the Star has the G&G beat(IMO)

Yep, thats exactly what I said in the original TK GBB thread. Good luck on that, I remember hearing $1500 US for these, so think $2200 atleast here. Sucks.

but know one knows the real price yet. people were estimating based on the material used in the prototype and other existing guns(la studio). from the recent pics it doesn't look like milled aluminium so that may bring cost down. plus comparing it to la studios ak74 is a bit unfair; those were one-offs built around a vfc body. jac produced gbb m4's for around $600 US, so there is a sliver of hope!

edit- although that said, the tk name does bring the price up, but lets hope he's genuine about trying to appeal to the international market and keep price reasonable as shipping will drive up the cost on the user end.

I'm pretty sure the LA ones cost even more then that. The JAC is not a gas blowback, its just a BV system with a reciprocating barrel that moves around half an inch or so? Better then nothing, but not really "GBB" IMO. Id still expect the price of this to be $2000+ in Canada. I'm pretty sure Escort guns go for about that here in Canada as well.

Nope - escort guns go for under 1k new from redwolf. I paid $1050 for my mp5a5 with taxes included. Gotta love those taxes.

Knowing how expensive GBB mags are, I'd hate to lose one of those TK mags.

Zi-Xiao

How's that MP5 holding up? I'd love to get an Escort .... ....... ..... anything really :p

haha does your PTW operate with a dead battery?

My hk33 does.

I just had to dude, i just had to :D

the G&G UMG uses v3 mechbox as well. and about it feeling plasticy and creaky?.. not mine, maybe you had an earlier version. its that most solid AEG i own and have used.
it has a full diecast alluminium breach that holds the barral on solid, and it has a real ID number pressed into the breach, unlike the STAR's plastic sticker.
so the STAR version has the nice mags that show dumy rounds, so what, the G&G UMG has a working cocking handle that if fully functional along with the boltplate/dust cover, which lock back via a bolt catch.

I don't mean to be a killjoy here, but there's been PAGES of discussion about these on ClassicAirsoft.net and the general consensus is they will be collector's items, nothing more.

One guy who not only lives in Japan but works there making gas-powered airsoft guns, gave this opinion:

It's a sad fact you cannot get anywhere near the blowback you can with a constant-air fed rifle. It may look cool to have gas in the mag, but you know what? I can deal with the 6mm hose coming out of my pistol grip to have as much recoil as a real C7 in my Sun Project M16. Anyone I've let shoot it says immediately they would live with the external tank and hose to have recoil and noise like that. :D

Yea, that's a totally unbiased opinion from SniperX...

People just need to sit tight and wait until this thing comes out. Don't get your hopes up but don't dismiss the fucking thing either. Sheesh...