Hi everybody.
 

I'm new here. I'm a total airsoft noob, and totally pumped on it.
Anyways, I'm likely be kicking around here quite a bit, trying to learn what I can and research differnent AEGs and whatever, because I'm a bit of a forum junkie in general.
Cheers to all.

first things first... get age verified
2nd your already doing it...asking questions
3rd dont cheep out.... u get what u pay for
get out and play^^

classic army makes good guns but so does other companies (tokyo marui.ect)

the gun u get is your choice
u have to like the way it feels and its looks

every gun has its pratical application, like you wouldnt use a m60 to be a medic so get a gun that fits the roll u want to do..if u want to mainly do a single roll

good luck

haha.... I've already changed the gun in my sig. I don't know anything about guns in general, so I'm just sort of basing my selection on battery capacity, magazine capacity, and size... (Not too short, not too long)
Really, that's why I'm here... to learn before I got drop 700 bucks on an AEG.

I heard about a paintball spot not too far from me that supports Airsoft, so I may go and see if I can watch or join in with a rental.

Awsome! Glad to see someone willing to dedicate some time to learning about the hobby first. Before deciding what equipment you want, I highly advise you go to a game and check out some stuff that people play with. Many players are more than happy to show off their gear. You can usually get age verified at events too, which will give you access to the classifieds section on the forum, that way you may be able to drop $450 on a gun instead of $700.

Magazine capacity should never be considered on AEGs. There are almost always many different mags that can be bought, usually in these classes: Realistic (20-30 rounds usually) capacity, low capacity (50-90 usually), mid capacity (120-200 or so), high capacity (250-800), drum/box high capacity (upto several thousand).

Batteries should be considered, but not that much either. Large type batteries are generally available in more power. Don't worry about the listed voltage. Pretty much all AEGs are usually ran at 8.4, or 9.6 for a higher firerate, or upgraded internals. One can go higher then that though, if needed.

Cool man. I've already emailed the verification rep in my city, so hopefully that won't take too long.
I'm really, really pumped on this sport. I can't believe I never heard of it until now!
*Punching myself in the head*
j/k, but I am stoked on it.

lol well im going to be slightly blasfinous and say try some war games like BF2 or GRAW it lets you chose diferent guns for diferent "kits" (rolls)

eg. medics get a choice of L85A1 or G36C
and special forces get MP5 or P90...(BF2)

or just chosing what guns you want for your team.. G3 XM8 MP5 ECT...(graw)

I used to own the Offzer. Great gun, but shitty metal... Seriously. It made me trade it off, cause I was so worried about it..

**** naturaly gaming isnt as good as going to an actual game

*Has no idea what you're talking about*

I'm not familiar with GRAW or BF2.

Kos, are you talking about the Gun my my sig when you mention the Offzer?

Have patience guys, I'm a total noob.

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Kos, are you talking about the Gun my my sig when you mention the Offzer?

Have patience guys, I'm a total noob.[/QUOTE]

that's the offzer. I really want that gun...

It looks nice. I like the shape of it, and I assume it would feel pretty comfortable in hands.
Mind you, there are sooo many different guns out there that I could easily change my mind a thousand times over the next couple months.
lol

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=253

Enjoy the read.

Once you're done that, go up one level to the forum that thread is in (Frequently Asked Questions) and read the pile of useful threads in there.

It's terrible if you're left handed, it has shitty metal, it's stock is kinda weird, it also has a V2 mechbox. This is definitely not the most fieldable gun.

OH, and a really annoying feature is.. The god damn fire-selector rubs against your knuckles (if left handed), and is way too hard to reach (if right handed).

I've already read all that. I get the feeling you want to quash discussion here?


*EDIT - I'm seeing a lot about the MP5. It must be popular for a reason...

Nah, it's not to stop a discussion. It's just to help you decide what gun you want so you don't end up changing your mind a million times. lol.

Or just do what a lot of us do: buy them all! :D

Theres a lot of different ones made. Armalites are even worse (M16/M4 series and such). That is probably one of the main reasons for the popularity. Plus I think they are considered the "good guys" guns ;)

Kalashnikovs forever.

You'll be seeing lots if you join the QSTF ;)

It's pretty crazy for a guy that has no background in military arms to distinguish one from another.
Like, on the 007 site I'm admiring the Classic Army MP5 SD2 Full Metal, and above it is the Classic Army MP5 A2 Full Metal.... From what I can see, they are essentially the same gun, but the SD2 doesn't have that extra piece under the barrel....
Does that piece serve a purpose on the A2?
Actually, is there a gun page for total noobs that you guys might have a link for, that would explain the basics to me?

Stop using so many abbreviations here and in PMs! I have no idea what you're talking about half the time :D


That piece under the barrel on the A2 should be the flashlight. And the SD2 should have a silencer built in if I'm not mistaken.

Don't join the forces ;) hahahaha

A functional flashlight??

*EDIT - QSTF is in his sig.

Should be.

Damn. Makes sence.

Try Googling "guns".

A good model/definition encyclopedia can be found here: http://world.guns.ru/main-e.htm

Thanks. I'll definately be checkin that site out when I get home.

For info on H&K guns check out hkpro.com

It just takes some time. Before Airsoft I didn't know much either. I can give you a quick run down of the MP5 naming scheme in Airsoft:
A2 - Full stock, SEF trigger group
A3 - Collapsable Stock, SEF trigger group
A4 - Full stock, Navy trigger group
A5 - Collapsable Stock, Navy trigger group
K - Short, stockless, Navy trigger group
PDW - Similar to K, but has flashhider, and a folding stock (note, it's a folding stock, not a collapsable stock)
SD2 - Suppressed, Full Stock, SEF trigger group
SD3 - Suppressed, Collapsable stock, SEF trigger group
SD5 - Suppressed, Full Stock, Navy trigger group
SD6 - Suppressed, Collapsable stock, Navy trigger group
The real confusion ensues when you come to realise real steel MP5s work on a different naming scheme. The difference is that there is no significance given to whether the trigger group is Navy or SEF. So then what is the difference between an A2 and an A4 or an SD2 and an SD5? The three round burst function. On the real steel the naming follows this pattern:
A1, A2, A3 - Safe, Semi, Full Auto
A4, A5 - Safe, Semi, 3 Round Burst, Full Auto
SD1, SD2, SD3 - Safe, Semi, Full Auto
SD4, SD5, SD6 - Safe, Semi, 3 Round Burst, Full Auto
K, PDW - Safe, Semi, Full Auto

Now, I'm not sure how you can see an SD being the same as an A except for a tac-light, since the SD is a totally different front end, butthe real difference between and A with a taclight and an SD is being able to see in the dark and being a silent assassin...You choose (actually, the suppressor doesn't cut down the pissed off sewing machine sound, only the already quiet muzzle blast).

But in all seriousness, an MP5 won't let you down and a full metal body is nice too. :)

Now that made me smile a wicked and evil smile.
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...il?reviewID=25
That review basically covers all maks of MP5s (even though it says it's for TM).

The only gun you'll see more often on the field than an MP5 is an Armalite (M16, M4, etc).

Wow, thanks for that post, Nik12.
That explains a lot, and saves me days/weeks or researching! lolz
Unfortunately, I'm not at home and I can't read that review you linked on this computer (Restricted), so I'll get to that tomorrow.
One question though - in your opinion, what brand would you recommend? There are a few that offer the MP5 SD(5, if I can find one) models in full metal bodies, so I'm curious to know what brand you would lean towards.

Note - I've got a buddy in Vancouver that is right into this sport, adn he told me to talk to him before purchasing because he has a good line through a guy out there, so I'm just still in "research mode".

Well, I've currently got an ICS MP5SD2 enroute to me from 007. Ken personally recommended it and all the reviews I could find on ICS MP5s made it a favourable choice. So that's clearly what I'm leaning towards.

Ofcourse, there is still CA and TM which make good solid MP5s. TM may have a plastic body, but it's internals are golden and from the more recent reviews of CA that I've read their quality control seems to have become alot better. In the end it's up to you, read reviews and form your own opinion and go from there. Google is your friend (and so is Arnies). Ultimately, the best way to get a good idea of what to spend all your money on is to get out to a game if you can and see what everyone is running, maybe pull a few triggers, find out what floats your boat.

Oh and unless you're left handed there is really no advantage to the ambidexterous Navy Trigger group over the right-handed SEF trigger group (and the SEF trigger group is supposed to have better 'clicks' than the Navy trigger group). That's the only difference between an SD2 and an SD5 (airsoft wise).

Wouldn't you lose the 3 round burst option?
*EDIT - Unless the three round burst is not available for airsoft...

i'm pretty sure there are only like 3 or 4 guns in airsoft that have 3 round burst, all of which are fairly rare.

Nope. There is no three round burst option for airsoft MP5s (unless ofcourse you are very very very technically inclined). Only on the real steel MP5s you will find it, and that's why it's naming system is different than the airsoft one.

I'm not sure rare is the right word. The Gas/Electric MP5K is rare, but that's because it is out of production.....pity.
There are a few guns with three round burst but only a couple with mechanical three round burst (TM Type 89s for example, and they can be aquired quite easily, as easy as any other AEG). The electrically controlled three round burst feature on some models (I don't know if they are still in production, if not then yes, they'd be rare too) is not really all to good and isnt worth paying extra for. It's known to be unreliable and inconsistant.

If you have full auto you could just fire bursts anyways, no?

Exactly.

The TM type89 3 round burst works perfectly, i would hardly call it unreliably.

The electronic burst ones are unreliable, such as some of the SIG series by TM. The TM 89 on the other hand, has a mechanical one that should supposedly be quite reliable.

You know the score :)

Oh i read your post all wrong and didnt depict the mechanical from electronic burst system. (nik)

Just wait till Systema releases their MP5 PTW... ;)

That's what I have been fearing....I'd be compelled to drop more than two grand just to own one.....If it's not available in SD I might stand a chance of resistance....just barely though.....

Holy shit!....

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thu...llar_bills.jpg

Where did you hear about this MP5 PTW?

Nvm.