So I did it, Joined the Multicam Generation
 

I'm not one to jump on a trend... really I resist it at all costs... cuts into my Iconoclastic persona...

Anyway... I have seen quite a few of the GHOSTS leaping around TTAC3 sporting crisp new Multicam BDUs... and I have to admit... I liked the look of it.

I resisted a long time... holding out... I'm old school through and through you see... stuck pretty much in the "analog" age... and thats just how I like my camo...

DPM... now thats a camoflage... all swirly dirt brown and jungle canopy green... it just makes you feel all "armyie" inside, Zip up that DPM smock.. and you can hear Argentinians skuttling under the table...Now thats a warrior's camo.
But no, its all digital now... Cadpat, Marpat, Universal Camo, pixelated...even the Russians are in on it with their OD and Goldenrod Birch... There is no escape.... If you wanna get with the times you gotta go digital.....except for Multicam.

So this weekend I drove to Richmond hill and turned in West Beaver Creek drive... walked in to Creative ... and ( after dithering for an hour ) plopped down $200 + for a full set of Tru-Spec tactical BDU, complete with Boonie hat and velcro festuned ( its the style you see ) ball cap.
And you now what... I really like it... the Gen 3 cut is comfortable full motion, and resplendant with more pockets than a herd of wallabies.

I don't buy the "its too brown" jive.... overall its "greenish" and as for its universality of effectiveness... My wife walked past me twice while I lurked behind the couch before she looked down her nose and said... "I can see you you know....That is'nt more camo clothing is it? I leaped out... saying, Yeah its my new "multicam" , she muttered "multimoron" under her breath... walking away saying something about "living with a 12 year old"

Anyway.. what does she know.... this stuff is cool, I can't wait till my SEALS Action Gear, multicam anorak comes....

Oh god somebody stop me.

MC
 

There is no end to the money we spend for Airsoft Brian. That's the first painful lesson I have learned after being in the sport for a year now. Congratulations on the MC purchase, I think it is a great pattern and very useful in many scenarios. Then again my Airsoft mentors are bias toward this camo style so that influences my thinking :D

I have to agree, the TRU's are pure sex. I'd kill for some Cadpat in that cut.

PS - Camelbak's MC lineup is supposed to be out this month.... and ICE tac's stuff seems legit now too.

V_V; I'm going down that MC route too.. :(

Fucking GRAW.

You know I thought I had Kicked it
 

I admit... I'm a junkie... I had kicked it... years ago I had so much kit.. it was crazy... My first wife hated it... and demanded I get rid of it ( part of the reason why she is my first wife ) I was serving then... so I had an excuse..
I dumped all kinds of stuff... gave it away... Mostly to my Nephews... but they never got hooked like me.

Now the old itch is back... and all the gold bond in the world ain't gonna scratch it....

I gots a fever.... and the only prescription is more gear!!

lol..those damn ghosts...I've got a MC wallpaper now. Brian we must never let our wives meet for then it will be our downfall.

Mike, we all know your downfall will come the day one of us pulls your walker out from under ya ;).

Seriously though, there is areason all the cool kids have MC....

Hot Damn I'm a cool kid now?.... Whew I was getting tired of being a GEEK

Hehe bought my multicam gen 3 BDU yesterday :P
Since the parents are visiting i just had to try it out hehe :P
Similar reaction from your wife from my parents :P

...he sprung for MC and on our thread he's going on about CADPAT and DPM?
boo Brian!
then again we joined your club, so welcome aboard the MC train
knew you'd conform eventually ;p
(then again I'm a woodies girl, took too many kicks in the head from the Ghosts to get me into MC's.. bastards.. dirty bastards.. all of em)

multimoron hahhaa! I'll remember that one.

the MC menace claims another victim.

When will it's reign of terror end?

woohooo

When ACU adopts colours that work?

Chairsofters everywhere rejoice!

Yeah..try buying Crye Combat sets...that'll get some bite marks in your ass...lol

Nobody stops him until he gets the Recce Smock from Drop Zone. ;)

Hey Brian, welcome to the club. Just remember, I was 12 years old once too, so there's something else we have in common! Lol

Ya, took me a while to get into multicam, and trust me, actually learning to use it well is difficult!! CADPAT is easy, stick largely to shadows and when in the light, cedar trees, but MC is really hard to effectively place yourself without standing out.

You know, now that I have my MC and loving it, I am thinking of getting a set of DPM. Go figure. Anyhoo, glad you are enjoying it.

whats really sad, is i didnt see the guy lying on that couch at first glance...

wow I didn't either...

millions of research dollars well spent

Oh man..... don't tempt me....,Gone through 2 keyboards... due to excessive drooling...

Yeah.... I just can't do it... you know ACU is everywhere, you can get so much stuff in ACU... its tempting.... its just so damn ugly... and not very good for woodland....

Russian Bekas Flectar-D. You know you want it.

http://img05.shop-pro.jp/PA01015/252...ct/2609999.jpg

You need the smock, it's a great peice of gear!!

I have it on good authority that Multicam makes your ***** shrink...

So then Multicam IS the new CadPat?


Moz that couch pic is great!

What else did they have in the TRU Brian?

If you get this, not only are you a multimoron, you'll also be a flectard.

now i have to clean coffee out of my laptop.
lol.

Don't forget those that love WALMARPAT.

Sadly... just the MC... everything else is Propper... but gen 3 cut, nice subdued urban digital, almost got that as well ... but I just got a greengrey bdu in the Crye cut.. the week before... so I am good for urban... for now.

DAMN YOU!! how did you know I was "jonesin" for more Russian!!!

when a new video game comes out :)

More Abuse to be heaped on by my wife
 

When she finds out I have ordered

Gen 3 BDU set

DZT clone Recce smock

CP clone blast belt

and am seriously looking at a total new MC loadout chest rig...

all to go with my soon to be delivered Custom Built FMU M4

Reviews to be posted once all gear received and fielded.

i wouldnt have wasted my time on the smock, but for a vest, i would definatly reccommend the phantom ciras, very accurrate color match, and material.

Oh I'm a total smock whore, I have 4 now... and I am really not much for the "armoured" look

Well for the price I got all this stuff... even if it is lacking... I wanted to get a good idea of the quality of the Clone gear.. I have seen some stuff that is actually quite good... other stuff that is trash..

I have a lot of players come through TTAC3 that are looking for advice on gear and such... if I don't have it I can't have an opinion...

It seems more like the Chess Club.

CDN_Stalker wrote:
Thats what I've been telling every one camo is only effective in the right areas. Dress like a clown at the Circus.

Cheers

Don't feel too bad Brian, atleast you were able to wait till huang came out with that repro of the recce smock ;)

Well we will see if the quality of the clone stands up.... if not I'm in for a DZT soon.

Agreed... any camo won't help you if you don't have any fieldcraft skills.. and if you do ... you can hide quite well in jeans and a Kenora dinner jacket

i would have to disagree, now it might be my geographical location, but i find that multicam is idiot proof. if you stop moveing and go prone or crounch your gone. many times have i been engaging target and when i look away to check other angles and look back at my origional target ill be like "fuck, where are they? did they fall back, or flank?" nope, heyre right where i left em, but multicam works extreemly well. in urban environments, foliage, carniferous, dead. i havent found multicam to be at a disadvantage yet. also ya, camo is an AID to help you disappear, but its your skill and tactics that matter.

humor me tho, but i dont see what is the point of a smock? its just a jacket for colder weather, no?

Yup, cold and shite weather. If it's raining, it's light enough that you can wear a Goretex shell underneath without overheating ;)

I have to agree with you Swatt, in alberta I think multicam is idiot proof, just like you our team wears it and you go to a knee and the team is gone.

Brian this is the first time I have read your thread.....but not the first time I have heard the term multimoron...... my wife punctured my "i got mc ballon" with;
Erica "you have a bundle of camo why do you need this stuff"
me "well it's super awesome, all the video game characters are wearing it and it's multicam"
Erica "how much"
me " a few hundred" (i have learnt to never give my wife the exact amount rounding up or down depending on her mood is a better option"
Erica " a few hundred? you are a multimoron"

wives must be communicating this via their special secret forum, WASC
wives of ASC

are the smocks water proof? I was hoping to buy a DZ MC one and double it as my new snowboarding jacket

Nope, when you get them new (the DZ one anyway) they are somewhat water repellent, but that's about it. After time and use it fades anyway. The best thing is something like a Stealth Suit jacket underneath.

I do something similar with my S95 Goretex jacket underneath my ripstop jacket. Works wonders, keeps you dry and warm, AND leaves you access to all the pockets.

This is exactly why I started carrying the Multicam. I don't use it myself ( no explaination, except I'm dutch.....wooden shoes, wooden head ) but at Zombie 2 I lit up a patch of ground I'd heard noise at. Nothing except a solitary weed vigorously wagging back and forth. "!!!?" There was a dude just beside the weed face down hands tucked... if not for the movingh weed I would not habve seen a thing. I centered the 4D Mag lite on him and four of my protecting FEDS could not see him..... centered in a Flashlight beam 20 feet from them. I moved the beam for a second and when the beam returned the fkr was gone "poof". Kudo's dude.
Multicam for sale.

so does anyone know of waterproof MC coat?
why wouldn't there be a waterproof coat, I would think if I was a soldier I would like to keep dry right?

There probably will be if and when it gets adopted by an army...till then use layers and a shell ;)

I agree with Lerch. When someone more formal adopts it as a standard uniform, you'll see plenty of MC items that aren't currently available flood the market.
I like multicam, and one day I'm sure I'll wind up buying a rig's worth, but the one thing about it that bothers me is how it lights up like a Christmas tree through NV or IR gear. Even fresh off the rack NIR coated stuff shines like John Travolta's leisure suit from Saturday Night Fever. The stuff works great in tall grass, dead vegetation, autumn forest etc.

Yes, I agree that it is most likely a location thing, but there have been times multicam has either stood out a lot or blended in to the point of "holy shit!".

I recall one game moving towards an objective slowly through the brush with a couple of those fucking Warmongers and a handful of the Dogs of War dudes (ok, Bruce of Bad Karma was there too), Quantis was ahead of me by about 30ft, we're looking for guys defending (basically being little pain in the ass snipers), and I scanned ahead of me about 150ft away from 11 O'clock to 2 O'clock, then went back the other way and saw movement 30ft ahead of me. My previous pass Quantis was standing still and my eyes didn't notice him, but when I saw him he had started to move to the right a bit. Freaked. Me. Out!

Here are some intersting pics of multicam in use, where it seems to work well. These are from a couple games last year at the Foxden (first some fall pics, then some summer pics).

Here's that poof ( :D ) Haggis:
http://www.ottawavalleyairsoft.ca/mo...n/PICT5767.jpg

I think this is Sgt. Garcia:
http://www.ottawavalleyairsoft.ca/mo...n/PICT5769.jpg

Hazard in cadpat and myself in MC:
http://www.ottawavalleyairsoft.ca/mo...4/PICT0054.jpg

I love annoying people with this one, me in MC:
http://www.ottawavalleyairsoft.ca/mo...4/PICT0059.jpg

And with this one:
http://www.ottawavalleyairsoft.ca/mo...4/PICT0061.jpg

And the answer to the riddle:
http://www.ottawavalleyairsoft.ca/mo...4/PICT0060.jpg

So ya, for the area here, MC can either make a guy disappear (until he moves at times), or stand out as much as tan clothing from the GAP. But the really good players learn their fieldcraft and look for the best place to move to when 'stalking' through the woods.

Oh ya, purpose of a smock is for colder weather, wear a raincoat under it when playing in the rain, and it gives you a shitload more places to carry stuff if your normal loadout is lacking. At one point for a game (actually a couple of the pics above) I just ran with my MP5 and used my smock to carry my extra mags, and used the pockets as dump pouches. Worked ok, but damn was I quiet.

And for Jayhad, check out the $95 MC smock huang is selling, it is said to be waterproof. And is a VERY close copy of the DZ Recce Smock.

Lol, how many pairs of shoes does your wife have?

Shit, DZ just came out with their stubby multicam boonie hat, and I just about shat myself!! $49.99 too!!!! I only have an HSGI ballcap in MC, have been wanting a good MC boonie for almost two years now, and since my Bday is coming up end of the month, I suggested to the wifey via Messenger "Hmm, here's a Bday suggestion for you to get me." and she replied "YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE!!!! WHY WOULD YOU WANT ME TO SPEND MONEY I DON"T HAVE TO BUY YOU SOMETHING YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE OF!?!?! YOU DIDN'T EVEN SPEND $50 ON ME FOR MY LAST BIRTHDAY!!!"

So, for clarification:

1/ My only other boonie is a cadpat one;

2/ She has piles of credit on her credit cards (one that we use for car repairs, which I make the damned payments every month!??!)

3/ I had to remind her that I bought her a $180 Kodak digital camera for her birthday this past June. Guess what, even though I owned her ass with that last one, she didn't even bother to call her hit!!!!!

And here all this time I thought you hated the stuff like I hate ACU (lol, seems Hazard and Lutnit do as well, since at the last game they were tugging at your BDUs and gear looking for the classified section, the sports section, the comics, etc.). Reason it lights up in the IR range is because of the treatment the CRYE cloth gets for IFF usage.

or just store it and take it out one day and say, this old thing, I had it for the longest time....

http://www.dropzonetactical.com/clot...ockfeature.jpg

oh weak, nothing worse than a wasc member not calling their hits, the worst part is you cant get em in the sore spot either lol.

ya most mc is really bad with nv, if any of you remember ks2.5 sog had mc and it was irr treated, they looked like ghosts in the night lol. it was pretty bad. but acu isnt any better lol. but my crye combats dont light up, so i dunno what to say there.

as for a nice mc boonie, my mate NachoPudding got me one from janes surplus in lethbridge, its the best boonie ive found, its identical to my woodland mil-spec, i definatly reccommend it!

WASC?

Dunno about the boonie you have, but check this sucker out!

http://www.dropzonetactical.com/hats/stubby.html

I am SO buying myself one!!!! I prefer to wear my Bolle strap on my head, under the hat. Ball caps don't do it for me when playing (but are great for everyday use to cover my thinning hair spots), and when moving through thick brush it can get dangerous (as in, ball cap visor has no give on branches, flips upwards, dropping the goggle strap down). Add in the fact that the ballcap ends up fitting funny and gets uncomfortable with a goggle strap on it............ I'd prefer to play with either a boonie or just an MC bandana on my head.

My cadpat boonie is size 7 3/4 (blame E-bay for issued stuff), but my head is size 7 1/2, and I actually very much prefer the larger size for the goggle strap as well as ventilation. I just use the neck cord to snug the boonie to the back of my head.

i doubt she says she's living with a 12 year old when the lights go off. hihih

WASC......
Wives of Airsoft Canada

Ah, gotcha! She's also a WW (Warmonger Wife).

RCMP has adopted MC as their tactical Field uniform... so I have heard.... maybe a RCMP member on this forum could confirm that?

stupid weed... multicam worked great for me that night, was able to get real close before most anyone noticed.

Could be, but earlier this year when the RCMP were hunting down the guy who had shot one of their officers, the local paper showed a pic of the officers wearing all kinds of mix & matched camo, some with woodland BDU pants or jacket, one with CADPAT pants and a black jacket, etc.

!! this is true! we had the calgary(?) swat team come to brooks and they were standing in the background in a pic in the newspaper and they were wearing mc, i just about fell outta my chair when i seen that. esspecially as it wasnt long after amazing kg3 and i blasted some kid for saying that lol.

!!!!!! Stop it!!!!!!!!! I'm | | this cloes to joining the multi cam generation this spring. You guys aren't helping!!!!!!!!

lol same here. I was not convinced until I saw the forest pics above. Still going to get urban digital camo for indoor winter games though.

Does anyone else find the TRU multicam (or any Nyco TRU) to be rather cool? The fabric seems quite thin to me. Other than that, I love the Multicam pattern and the uniform.

well it is light weight Rip stop.... otherwise its great.

Have the TRUSPEC pants (thanks Phalanix!!) fit great and a nice cut. Considering my ACU by Propper is almost an Identical cut I still prefer the feel of the TRUSPEC. Truely a step up in quality.

Yep,

Received Confirmation from a RCMP member of this forum that some units of the force have adopted MC.

I love the Crye cut and if I do get it eventually, I'd like to get that cut. But I just can't justify yet *another* BDU and LB system in my closet. And when I look at MC I can't help but see "contract painter" - not that I am digital fan much anymore - digital suffers from the same obsolence problem that software does - you look at it and you say to yourself, "I remember that era!". I feel like I should be playing Donkey Kong in my CADPAT.

I've well and truely fallen back in love with my first pattern - US Woodland. Its cheap, plentiful and you can get it in goretex cheap and almost any LB system can be found in it... cheap (I am beginning to see a pattern here).

My only other problem is all my airsoft money is tied up in stock these days and I got dinged on taxes last year so I am currently renting a pot to piss in.

Perhaps once my self imposed austarity plan passes I'd pick up a set, but if any new kit is on my list next its saber radios.

AMEN Brother. I'm SO done with gucciflage.

It also has a lot to do with geography. Here in Newfoundland, our forest is mainly coniferous trees, so it's very green and dark all year around. CADPAT is definitely idiot proof here; just throw yourself into the nearest pine tree and you're gone.

About 3 weeks ago I joined the Multicam club and I'm really pleased with how it works during the fall. In the height of summer, it won't be as good as CADPAT, but where it's fall there is a lot more subdued green and brown making it much more useful.

Last game, I went prone behind some grass and the guy who was engaging me lost sight of me completely. I've got an MC helmet cover from SEALS and a repro MC BDU, and they both blend in very well with the yellow and light green grass.

It wasn't that expensive a switch, since I didn't get the real stuff, but it was definitely worth my money.

morb, that makes baby jesus cry whe you say stuff like that.

He's referring to the boxers he wears to games and let's everone see when he changes for the game.

I'm not impressed by MC at all. Every time I see it on the field, the player is standing out as if he was wearing his winter white. If that was not bad enough, they often get confused for other camos in milsims from far away.

What you see in pictures is not really what you get in real life, as far as I can tell.