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ILLusion August 21st, 2007 05:24

SEI M14SE "Crazy Horse" SASS - aka mk14 mod0 EBR
 
SEI M-14SE "Crazy Horse" SASS

The Crazy Horse Semi-Automatic Sniper System is a project that I've been working towards since Tokyo Marui announced production of the M14 rifle. The amount of time its taken me to get this far has been limited to availability of parts, cost, as well as issues of getting the EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle) kit in to the country.

Anyways, I'm not going to go on too much about the details on the real steel, the weapon was designed and created by Sage International, Ltd. in cooperation with Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane Division, to fulfill a five-year Crane contract for a modernized, product improved M14 rifle system to be integrated as an SDM (Squad Designated Marksman) weapon. You can read all about it here:

http://www.smithenterprise.com/products02.html

And now, on to the pictures of newborn baby:





Parts list:

Gun: Tokyo Marui M14
Chassis / Stock / Outer Barrel / Glow Front Sight / Flash Hider / Grip: G&P EBR MK14 Mod 0 Conversion Kit - replica of the Sage International, Ltd. ChopMod EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle) rifle chassis
Suppressor: VFC M14DC Silencer - Fisher Enterprise / Smith Enterprise replica
Scope Mount: G&P Knights Type Sniper Version Mount - Knight's Armament Co. Replica
Optics1: G&P M3 3.5x-10x - Leupold M3 Replica
Red Dot Mount: Doctersight Weaver Rail Mount
Optics2: Doctersight II Plus - 7MOA
Scope Caps: Butler Creek
Bipod: Harris Swivel Bipod, Medium
Bipod Mount: I cheated... I don't have a mount for it yet. The gun's just resting on the bipod. ;)

Selector Switch: TGS Steel CNC M14 Selector Set
Selector Arm: Pro-Arms Steel Reinforced Selector Arm

Electrical: Prometheus EG Silicone Low Resistance Wiring throughout, fuse removed
Gearbox: G&P Reinforced v7 Gearbox with 7mm Ball Bearing Bushings
Gears: Prometheus EG Hard Gear Triple Torque for v7
Gear Sector Clip: King Arms Gear Sector Clip ver. 2
Anti-Reversal Latch: Prometheus Hard Reversal Stop Latch for v7
Cut-Off Lever: Guarder Steel Cut-Off Lever GE-07-32
Spring Guide: Prometheus EG Spring Guide / Smoother for v6 & 7
Spring: Systema M120S
Piston: Prometheus Hard Piston
Piston Head: Prometheus Metal Piston Head
Cylinder: KM / Head1950 AEGSM14 TN Coated Taper Cylinder for M14
Cylinder Head: Guarder Stainless Cylinder Head for Marui ver.7 Gearbox GE-04-17
Air-Nozzle: Prometheus Sealing Nozzle for M14
Hop-Up Bucking: Big-Out H-Hop Black Bucking
Hop-Up Screw: KM Steel Hop Up Screw for Marui M14
Inner Barrel: Prometheus EG 6.03mm Tightbore Inner Barrel 500mm


Performance:
With hop-up adjusted to shoot KSC Perfect 0.25g BBs straight, a KSC Perfect 0.20g BB will chrony at around 387fps, +/-2fps

stokes August 21st, 2007 11:37

Hey Illusion pics dont work...

ILLusion August 21st, 2007 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokes (Post 523343)
Hey Illusion pics dont work...

Looks like you tried accessing it at the wrong time, pbase just so happens to be down right this moment. Check back in a bit

stokes August 21st, 2007 11:40

Darn it... thanks for the heads up...

Cheese August 21st, 2007 11:49

On my pc, pictures work only with firefox and not with internet explorer

btw, very nice riffle ! :)

ancorp August 21st, 2007 11:54

Holy crap, thats insane! I love it. Very massive, yet compact.

Now if only it was a full stroke gas blowback ;)

Care to share the cost?

Kimbo August 21st, 2007 12:43

That's the nicest EBR setup I've ever seen! Nice job man.

LyquidFyre August 21st, 2007 12:50

Wow...simply amazing setup there. How's the weight on it with all the extra parts?

MadMax August 21st, 2007 12:54

Silencer looks funny. Can't close down the QD on your flashider?

Cassius August 21st, 2007 13:44

Would that flash hider and silencer work on an armalite?

Renegade) August 21st, 2007 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 523361)
Care to share the cost?

haha, his wallet took a nice straight hit, thats all hed say im sure :P and alot of fighting with customs lol. So worth it tho, what a gun!

ILLusion August 21st, 2007 14:13

Thanks for the compliments, guys.



Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 523361)
Care to share the cost?

Lots of tears.

And a bit of blood.

I'll see if I can get a cost up later, I just did one for my PTW and I wasn't happy. I don't feel like going double-sadness by looking at the EBR cost too...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edmode (Post 523400)
Wow...simply amazing setup there. How's the weight on it with all the extra parts?

5.5 kg, not including battery, ammo, bipod & suppressor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax (Post 523402)
Silencer looks funny. Can't close down the QD on your flashider?

Yeah, it's what I talked to you about on MSN last night.

It's a VFC DC suppressor, but the flash hider on there is the G&P one that came with the kit. G&P is stupid in that they love to use positive threading, whereas the rest of the industry uses negative threading... as a result, I can't attach my VFC flash hider on to the EBR kit (without an ugly adapter).

And the G&P flash hider's DC (direct-connect) channel is a bit too narrow to allow the arms of the suppressor to clamp down on it. I have to widen the channel and make it about 50 thou. deeper. So in a sense, the gun's not fully complete, yet. Have to refab the flash hider, paint it, and get a bipod mount... :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius (Post 523434)
Would that flash hider and silencer work on an armalite?

Yes, it would, although it'd look a bit funny due to its length (it's made to clear an extended gas bolt on the M14 series.) There's M4-specific versions available. The suppressor is the same. Just look up "Vortex" Flash Hiders.

Dr_Tinshnipz August 21st, 2007 14:55

When you plan on selling let me know! Another beautiful gun man.

Cassius August 21st, 2007 18:32

Thanks alot man! Been looking for a cool suppressor that would attach easily without the need to remove the flash hider. :D

Metro August 21st, 2007 18:58

funny thing with a toy version that shots plastic...

the real thing
is
much
cheaper
lol
1300$ for the real thing

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com


http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5...05sage1bh9.jpg


NICE WORK!

ILLusion August 21st, 2007 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metro (Post 523583)
funny thing with a toy version that shots plastic...

the real thing
is
much
cheaper
lol
1300$ for the real thing

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com


NICE WORK!

Unfortunately, that pretty much goes for almost any custom airsoft gun... lol

Point_Man August 21st, 2007 19:23

That is truely awesome. At first I really didn't like the EBR too much, but this has definetly changed my opinion. Great work.

Cassius August 21st, 2007 20:39

The real steel EBR's plastic handguard is not installed the same way ILlusion's is.

ILLusion August 21st, 2007 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius (Post 523655)
The real steel EBR's plastic handguard is not installed the same way ILlusion's is.

How is it attached?

On mine, it's attached by 3 bolts at the bottom, attaching to a rail that runs along the bottom of the handguard.

Metro August 21st, 2007 20:50

one the them is backwards.....
http://www.gun-world.net/usa/r/m14/sage_ebr.jpg
the first real steal is the wrong way
http://bastardsinc.blogs.com/photos/...scout_ebrb.JPG

bri aka ILLusion has it the right way

Hades August 21st, 2007 20:50

Very nice Brian. My turn to say it...

DAMN YOU!!!!

Oh well, my ebr kit is on the way so I'm not too jealous :D

ILLusion August 21st, 2007 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metro (Post 523662)
one the them is backwards.....
http://www.gun-world.net/usa/r/m14/sage_ebr.jpg
the first real steal is the wrong way
http://bastardsinc.blogs.com/photos/...scout_ebrb.JPG

bri aka ILLusion has it the right way

I believe the chassis shown in that image is of Sage's original EBR design that has been discontinued.

The G&P mk14 mod0 conversion kit which I used, is a replica of the current Sage rifle chassis design, which is shorter and easier handling than the original full sized Sage EBR.

The current SEI Crazy Horse design uses the shorter "ChopMod" style rifle chassis.

ILLusion August 21st, 2007 21:34

Here's some pictures of the real deal Smith Enterprise, Inc. M14SE "Crazy Horse" SDM, just so you have an idea of how close I got my replica (the first image is what I based the build off of):

http://www.smithenterprise.com/images/m14se.008.jpg

http://www.smithenterprise.com/images/MK14-SEI-1.jpg

Pictures linked from the Smith Enterprise site: http://www.smithenterprise.com

Here's some trivia:

Above the rear pistol grip, behind the receiver, you'll notice a set of rails located there. Any idea what those rails are for or what could be mounted there? My only guess is to attach RIS-mounted sling mounts... agree? disagree?

Cassius August 21st, 2007 23:00

man your front sight is ten times much better than the RS one.

Xepharo August 21st, 2007 23:30

Illusion, I was trying to calculate all those parts on that gun... but then my calculator screen cracked cause it can't believe how much that gun cost
...


nice job on the gun :D

bruce August 22nd, 2007 00:14

Hot shitz! It's looking mighty good Brian. Might just have to get one for Christmas if I can wait that long.

I do believe that the rail on top of the sliding stock housing is used for NVs with a special high mount . I've seen a pic of this before but can't remember which forums I saw it in.

ILLusion August 22nd, 2007 00:45

After doing some thinking about the timeline, I'm back to being uber-happy about this gun:

The first image that I originally showed of the real steel versions was the first image that SEI released of one of their projects. This used the old Sage EBR at that time, which was a larger EBR - it's the same one shown in Metro's image. It also incorporated that older style ring-type front sight at the time.

Sage, Inc. then released the "ChopMod" version of the rifle chassis and dropped the older, larger, heavier & bulkier design. The revised chassis was shorter and balanced out the gun much better. Smith Enterprises, in conjunction with Sage, integrated the new chassis in to the SEI product. The old SEI Crazy Horse image was removed from the site some time in 2006 or perhaps early 2007.

Smith Enterprise had also picked up tritium bar combat front sights, which they further began to integrate in to their flagship product.

http://www.smithenterprise.com/image...t_Sight.lg.jpg

Once integrated in to a product sample, a new photo was taken, which is the second photo I showed - I've since removed the original first photo and put the modern image as the first image. I noticed this image was posted on the SE site some time earlier this year.

On closer inspection of that tiny resolution image, you can see that the current Crazy Horse configuration uses the newer "ChopMod" length chassis, as well as the tritium glow sight... and so, my replica is being back to being a very close replica. :D

On that note... I think I may have to get me one of these tritium glow sights to put on my replica... pwuahahaha

stokes August 22nd, 2007 00:48

GAWD DAMN it!!!! I want an EBR!!!!

Blackspeed416 August 22nd, 2007 03:15

That gun is simply awesome! Please post some pics of your load out holding this thing.

ILLusion August 22nd, 2007 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackspeed416 (Post 523883)
That gun is simply awesome! Please post some pics of your load out holding this thing.

Unfortunately, my gear isn't as leet as the gun. :P

stokes August 22nd, 2007 15:26

I was wondering whats that red switch for on your scope cover?

Ronan August 22nd, 2007 16:47

To pop open the cover.

Mongoose August 22nd, 2007 19:25

Holy Crap ILLusion...I think I just creamed myself! LOL!!! That is a sweet piece of hardware! Great work, what's the fps?

stokes August 22nd, 2007 19:30

Performance:
With hop-up adjusted to shoot KSC Perfect 0.25g BBs straight, a KSC Perfect 0.20g BB will chrony at around 387fps, +/-2fps

ILLusion August 23rd, 2007 03:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokes (Post 524128)
I was wondering whats that red switch for on your scope cover?

Yup, like Ronan said, a press of the button will release the scope cover. It makes things a bit easier by unifying the direction you press to open up the scope: Push the red button forward, and the rear scope cover pops backwards and up. Push the nub of the front scope cover forward as well, and it pops forwards and up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mongoose (Post 524274)
Holy Crap ILLusion...I think I just creamed myself! LOL!!! That is a sweet piece of hardware! Great work, what's the fps?

With hop up off, it shoots about 400fps, +/-2fps

attack-beaver August 23rd, 2007 14:32

i.....hate......you....but......i......love......y our........gun

Xenos-Fear August 23rd, 2007 17:59

Goddammit ! Your EBR is... argh ! PTW !!! EBR !!! WOW !!! I want both !!!

ArmaliteWhore August 26th, 2007 23:02

Illusion, I must say, you have the nicest guns on this forum. Keep up the good work.

Krookedatmosphere October 10th, 2007 20:38

Nice Girl
must say what a beaut she is

FOX_111 October 10th, 2007 20:52

I'd guess the small rail is to atach a backup sight, like a small Doctor red dot.
Or it could be there because otherwise, it would be lost space.

Nervikaire October 10th, 2007 21:20

Not likely for a back-up sight as 1- Sight would be obstructed by the main rail/chassis and everything on it 2- The sight would be directly in line with your shoulder instead of your face. Most likely to be the second option, had space to put rails, so they did... hehe

JDM350GT October 10th, 2007 22:24

oh man, where can i find a doctor's sight mount like that? i want to run almost the exact same dual-optics tier on my m4!


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