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Sniper Rifle
I am looking for a good sniper rifle, and i have a choice of Double Eagle or Crossman. But i am not sure which one to get someone plz help
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In airsoft, sniping is a thing that is regarded as very difficult, and depending on your views of the game, also very boring at times. The thing about airsoft sniping is that sniper rifles are often more powerful then AEGs, although in a shoot out an AEG will win hands down over a bolt action rifle. As it stands many people feel sniping is something to be taken very seriously and should only be done by those who have had proper training or alot of experiance, due to the fact that serious injury may arise.
Essentially what Im trying to say in a polite manor is, dont get a crap soft sniper rifle. Save your money, go for quality. You will appreciate it later on. Read all the info you can find on this site about sniping and reviews of diffrent kinds of guns. In the end patients is rewarded. |
Just in case you think this can be done cheaply, think again: a decent sniper type rifle for airsoft will easily cost well above $400. Maybe less if you get your age verified (prove you are over 18) and then look in the Classifieds section of this site.
As said, do NOT buy a piece of crap, you will regret it if you do. For the rest, I strongly suggest you start by reading the Newbie Guide in the Information section. If you dont live in Canada, some of those rules will not apply to you. Please complete your user profile so local people can give you better information. |
Tokyoseven is right about the boring part, my brother in law is our team sniper, at one of our big op games we had, he fired a total of 9 shots the whole day where as I got off about 3-4000 shots. He also paid close to $900 for his sniper rifle.
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zomgwtfbbq! I want to pwnzorx noobs with ma snipaer. I'll be all.. stealthy lyk.. camp, n' shit. Get some headshots.
Pwn you noobs l8r. lol.. |
Bieng a member of the Edmonton Based Scout/Sniper team there is a lot of sitting there waiting and waiting. We send intel back and most times in a game you get maybe 3-5 shots in. That is best case scenario. This is something not everyone can do.
www.edmontonscoutsnipers.com |
Just my opinion, but though I know sniping sounds attractive, yknow all lone stealthy killer, I'd go with an assault rifle. No sniping. Because the fact of the matter is that, not only for the price of a quality sniper rifle can you purchase multiple other rifles, but airsoft sniping is, as far as my experience goes... bullshit. No matter how fast you can get a 6 or 8 mm pelet going it is never going to have the power or mass to stay on target at long range. Over short distances, my L96 is as accurate as any of the .308 real steel I've fired, but at those short distances, you might as well just go with an assault rifle. So my advice - get a nice full metal AEG, with some upgrades and add-ons and what not.
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I've only had one chance to use my Type 96 in a game yet, I hadn't had the chance to tweak/properly sight it in yet, and I was already outranging many of the AEG's at the game. And got it used and upgraded, but it still cost me $1000.
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I know my KJW M700 has more range than some of the upgraded AEG's out there. With the proper wieghted bb's and such and the time and money to get it where you need too, sniping can be fun. However it is expensive when you get the gun at about 500+, a good scope, bipod, ghillies suit, etc.... you could be looking at a good 1200+
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BBs even cost like hell because of their quality.
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I thought lubricated ones were good? |
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I think lol |
The other drawback for sniping for a beginning player and that you do not understand the game well enough to be really effective at the role. The shots a sniper fires should be carefully timed and placed, and one simply does not have enough knowlege to know how to achieve these results without playing for some time.
I'd reccommend gettting a good AEG and playing as a rifleman for some time so you can come to understand the ebb and flow of the game, and the key moments and places so you can influence them as a sniper. LD |
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Hey, they do in Counter-Strike, so why not airsoft?
*rolls eyes* |
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Bingo. Works great too, just it's not the best idea to use those BBs in AEGs. Bolt actions are fine though and greatly benefit from dry BBs in both accuracy and consistancy. |
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buy an M249, it's the heaviest and most expensive, therefore the best. Nobody insults your sexual orientation when you buy an L96 so it's not as good in airsoft as it is in counterstrike |
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just water? I don't think water can wash off lubricant. use kitchen detergent? |
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Graphite is more labour intensive, I soak in cola for 20-30mins stirring every 10 or so, then load into a wool work sock and wash a few times with normal laundry, rubbing the sock in your hands between each wash. When you can rub a couple BBs on your jeans or a white cloth without leaving a skidmark, they are ready to go after they dry fully. Graphite has the same effect on hop up rubber as oil does, and the less friction you get on the hop up (because of oil or graphite build up), the more hop up you have to apply to have the desired effect, which means a bigger lump in the barrel that the BB has to pass by, more fps drop and a more unstable BB flight at longer ranges. |
depends if they used an emulsifiable lubricant or not, i agree with the dishsoap though, that stuff works for everything: anti-fog, prevents poison ivy from spreading, and even cleans dishes!
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thanks, gotta do that :D
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Give this a read, it's a new thread posted regarding the info I put up a few months back regarding washing BBs. I basically asked if others could try it with their rifles and provide feedback to see if it's a common benefit or only for my sniper rifle set up (upgraded CA M24 and modded KJW M700). Seems right across the board improved results from washing.
http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums...?topic=41711.0 |
This thread needs a highjacking...
I would like to hear about the CA M24 Socom Sniper rifle ( w/Fluted barrel )and would like to hear from others with this gun or have seen or heard about it. I just puchased it, ( Something different in my collection :roll: ) and am having problems finding reviews. I think CA makes some great guns and am taking a chance on it. All my previous guns have been CA, and other than the odd, ( bad ), hop up system they have.. The guns have been great. So I hope this isnt any different. |
Nice to have you in the sniper role Jughead...I was actually looking at a few of the M24. You should do good with that, me with the M700 and Hux with the assorted rifles he has...
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I cant say for sure but i suspect that the ca m24 civ and mil version (ie fluted and non fluted) are internally the same. Ive had mine since they came out (first one in canada) and it has served me well. I recently did an overhaul on it due to some design flaws. Basically if you get a nice stainless cylinder kit. Like http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper..._cat_PDI Parts or this http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper..._cat_PDI Parts And a nice spring your pretty much set. It should be noted as the spring tension increases so does the trigger pull weight. Mine was up too well over 10 lbs with a 300% spring so i decided to replace the whole trigger assembly with a first factory aps zero trigger. With some slight mods to the m24 trigger guard its worked out great.
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Yupp my friend (a CA dealer in california) told me they are exactly the same except the fluted one is a bit lighter (duh).
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Thanks for the replies gents,
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The CA M24 trigger assembly is a bit finicky too. If you over-tighten the screws then it won't release/fire properly and if you don't tighten it enough you get too much play and weird wearing out of screws.
I bought an M24 fluted second hand (I was the third owner) and the original owner in an attempt to lighten the trigger pull and response put some plasticard between the trigger assembly and the outer barrel. This lightened the pull but also introduced a lot of play which then stripped the front screw hole holding the entire trigger assembly to the outer barrel. Right now I have a zip tie holding the assembly to the outer :( ..... |
I saw on UNcompant, that they have a barrel spacer... I didnt know wtf that was, but youre saying it reeduces the pounds on the trigger?!
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PICS??
Pics would be helpful with this one...i'm a pro on stuffs like this!
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So this is what I am looking to do with my gun as soon as it arrives and would like to hear feedback. Positive or Negative
Classic Army M24 SOCOM Rifle - Gaurder stainless steel cylinder - Guarder APS-2 Piston Head - First Factory Laylax pss2 spring guide - Guarder APS-2 Piston - First Factory Laylax pss2 150 spring. I havnt priced it out, but will update soon. Does anyone know if the FF Laylax 150 spring will push a .20g bb 500fps? Im not familiar with their stuff. |
crossman2250xt
does anybody know were i can get a crossman 2250xt in canada or do i have to bring it over the border if i can?>
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Talk to Vinny.
Most of the time you can find him outside behind Walmart and Canadian Tires. |
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And Pellet Guns are legal to import. |
[QUOTE=Kingsix;829268]If I remember Correctly the Crosman 2250xt is a .22 C02 Pellet Gun. You are asking about pellet guns on a airsoft site. You need to go to http://www.airgunforum.ca
And Pellet Guns are legal to impits a pellet gun so i can import it from some American company? |
Keep in mind you're not asking about an airsoft gun.
So you will not be allowed to play airsoft with this gun.. |
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