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OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 20:39

Dream Gun (end result for my gun when i get the cash together)!!Big Thread!!
 
CA G36C
http://membres.lycos.fr/falloutboy33/g36c_03.jpg
Guarder Version 3 Reinforced Gearbox
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/imag...%20gearbox.jpg
Systema torque up gear set
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/imag...ma%20gears.jpg
Airsoft Elite 6MM Oiless Double Deck Steel Bushings
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/imag...mmbushings.jpg
Deep Fire Full titanium coated teeth standard piston
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/imag...eepfiretie.jpg
Systema Aluminum piston head with bearings
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/imag...pistonhead.jpg
Systema Magnum Motor (Short)
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/imag...ysmagshort.jpg
Systema Enhance Hop Bucking
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/syshopbucking.jpg
Systema Ver. 3 Metal Spring Guide
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/ver3guide.jpg
Systema M120 spring
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/imag...radespring.jpg
Madbull Ver. 2 Precision Barrel for G36C
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/TNB1.jpg

Thats the end of the Internal if you know of any better parts that are around the same prices please post it (kinda why i made this thread)

Have a day:cool:

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 20:44

G2 Nitrolon
http://www.surefire.com/surefire/content/g2_tn_full.jpg
TacStar Pressure Switch End Cap
http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dl...eitemid=752153
King Arms QD Flashlight Mount
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/kingarmsflashlight.jpg
Panorama Electro Red Dot Sight
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/redotsight12.jpg
Mad Bull RAS FIX Scope Raiser Mount
http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/im...ope-raiser.jpg
G&P PEQ II Battery Pack - w/ built-in 10.8V 3300mAh Battery
http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload...g/gp250c-l.jpg
G&G G36K R.A.S. Complete
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/gg36k.gif
Guarder Ergonomic Vertical Tactical Foregrip
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/guardergrip2.jpg

Thats the rest!

Syn October 2nd, 2007 20:49

Nice, but I thought the Prometheus inner barrel was better in a 6.04.???

(6.03 if you are using very high quality bbs).

Trivium01 October 2nd, 2007 20:55

Don't get the piston with the metal teeth, the stress comes down to being on the teeth or the gears. Just use the stock CA reinforced plastic cylinder. I shredded one of those cylinders with metal teeth in about 2 months :D Costs 25$ to replace the cheap piston instead of 100$ for the gears. Also if you're using just a 120 spring, I don't think you need the reinforced gearbox if you're short on $$.

DarkAngel October 2nd, 2007 20:59

lose the flat gears and get the systema helical torque up set. youll need the systema half tooth helical piston as well. and i recommend the guarder cylinder kit minus the piston. and with all the crap ur putting on it, ur gonna top it off with a crappy rds? invest in an eotech. Also as much as i love the G2 surefire, its a c123 killer, i recommend the G&P RAS mount M6 with charger set. The scorpion is too big for the G36c so the M6 should be a better fit. Furthermore, the rechargable kit comes with a rechargable batt and it puts out a considerable amount of light. My scorpion puts out 500 lumens, which is pretty damn bright. Youll save alot of money in the long run instead of buying c123s and it comes with the pressure switch.

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 21:28

wow this thread is working just how i wanted it to thanks for all the post and I'm looking into all of them!
thought eotech was way to good for an airsoft gun. like i know they make it for real fire arms and its cost so damn much 346 bucks i think. if i were to get an eotech i would just be waisting money maybe in a few years i'll get one but i just don't deserve one at this stage in the game.

The Saint October 2nd, 2007 21:33

You don't really need a reinforced mechbox. Stock CA v3 can safely withstand a M120-equivilant, especially if you use a polycarb piston head instead of the aluminum. My recommendation is to go with a Prometheus non-linear spring, rather than a Systema. Same with inner barrel, go with Prometheus (or KM) stainless steel instead of Systema brass. You also don't need new bushings, stock CA 7mm bushing is fine.

Actually, backtracking a bit, I'd recommend against a M120-equiv spring. Replacing the stock CA ported cylinder with a portless cylinder and running a M110-equiv will achieve similar or better FPS compared to a M120-equiv and a ported cylinder. Easier on the internals, too. If you use a M110-equiv, you don't even really need to replace the gears. Just reshim it to improve upon the factor job.

You don't really need to put a riser under your RDS, unless you really want that really high RDS look.

IMO, 10.8v battery is criminal, both on the gun and other people. If you stick with that large a battery, you might want to consider rewiring to Deans connectors.

ThunderCactus October 2nd, 2007 21:37

prometheus MAKES a 6.04 barrel? lol
systema is 6.04 but i've heard of jamming problems. Honestly I've heard of problems in every tightbore, I've got a 6.03 and it's never jammed.
why not buy a cylinder head? air nozzle? and most importantly: shims!
without shims your guns only going to last a few mags before you start getting problems. And if your pushing for 400fps, might as well try to find a prometheus hard hopup rubber

Jughead October 2nd, 2007 21:39

I did the same internals in my M4 and they work great.. Accurate and powerful.

I also added a metal nozzle.

Personally would go with the 6.04 inner barrel.

Syn October 2nd, 2007 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 546416)
prometheus MAKES a 6.04 barrel? lol

hmm had to double check but yes they do
http://www.21stcenturyairsoft.com/pr..._Inner_Barrels

"High grade precision barrel from Prometheus at 6.04mm diameter for extra power and precision shooting. High grade precision barrel from Prometheus at 6.04mm"

you use 6.03 with no jamming? Thats good to know, I was afraid of going to 6.03, although I really want too. Thaks for that bit of confidence. (offtopic- Anyone out there using 6.02 or 6.01 without jams? lollers)

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 21:55

i picked these shims out just forgot to add them to the list srry guys for the confusion no shims = no AEG

Systema Precision Shim Set
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/mc67.jpg

Trivium01 October 2nd, 2007 21:56

I agree with the 110 spring bit, using a 120 would put you around 410-430 FPS (depending on the brand); my gun (modded CA36C) shoots 390-400 FPS with:

Systema Helical Torque Up's
Type 0 Cylinder
Aluminum cylinder head
Aluminum piston head
Guarder 110% spring
Magnum Torque up Motor
Sector Gear clip
Upgraded metal bushings (can't remember which)
Dean connectors
9.6v battery
500mm 6.03 Prometheus barrel (converted the gun to a g36 atm)

Gotta agree with Frank I haven't had any probs with my Promethus'. I've also had the G36C madbull tightbore and it jammed ALOT; unless you plan on using KSC perfects, i'd recommend a different tightbore (e.g. prometheus)

I've also found this set up has a great ROF and the gearbox is quiet and runs smooth

Omi-san October 2nd, 2007 21:57

Don't buy a new G36C inner barrel if you're planning to get the G36K R.A.S kit.

Styrak October 2nd, 2007 22:07

Just for reference wise, I have a V3 TM AUG mechbox with an 8.4V battery and stock internals except for a Systema M120 spring, Systema bearing spring guide, and metal bushings, and I'm pushing 400.

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 22:08

sounds cool, sounds cool i like the idea of downgrading the spring for 2 reasons
1) the spring could wreck my gear box and
2) i was worried the gun might end up over chroned to past 415 witch is illegal in tournaments I'm pretty sure in my area for an automatic airsoft gun.
also never heard of deans connector please give me a link on it so i can see what it is.

P.S.
whats a ported cylinder looked it up on google and nothing popped up airsoft related.

@omi-san: cant u use both R.A.S. kit barrel and an inner barrel. and if so i don't care dishing out an extra 50 for something that improves the gun accuracy's as much as it does.

Trivium01 October 2nd, 2007 22:16

http://www.fxaeromodels.com/images/DUP.jpg

They offer much lower resistance than your standard mini connectors (i've heard up to 15%).

The drawbacks are that you have to:
1) Convert your batteries to dean connectors (make sure the female ends are on the battery *cough Spa*)
2) Make a dean connector charger wire
3) Convert the rest of the wiring harness to dean connectors (on a g36 I think this comes out too needing 3 male+female connectors; 1 at the gearbox, and 2 at both ends of the fuse-wire piece)

For all of this you're looking at 4 male/female dean connectors. I'd definately say its worth the soldering

The biggest thing of all to keep in mind is that you MUST have your batteries charged at ops, or you'll have a real hard time finding someone to borrow a battery off of

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 22:21

wow I'm so lost with the dean connector but really all i have to say is thank god my pa's an electrician.

Syn October 2nd, 2007 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trivium01 (Post 546443)

The biggest thing of all to keep in mind is that you MUST have your batteries charged at ops, or you'll have a real hard time finding someone to borrow a battery off of

I made a deans on one end and the regular mini connector on the other on a lenth of dual wire to solve that problem. Small and portable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimePoster (Post 546446)
wow I'm so lost with the dean connector but really all i have to say is thank god my pa's an electrician.

very easy , try it. All guys should have fundamental soldering skills.
YouTube - How to solder a Deans Connector

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 22:31

oh cool i've done that before my dad showed me like last year(on a personal note my cat thrasher my leg and i got that solder on my finger. first time i cried from pain in almost a year!).

Trivium01 October 2nd, 2007 22:32

Ya, that would work well for ops if you think your battery won't make it.

What you want is a non-ported cylinder (Also known as a type 0), with this one being the one you want (from the cheapest place too); it fits in the gearbox

http://cgi.ebay.com/Systema-Airsoft-...QQcmdZViewItem

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 22:36

wow like you guys probably can tell I've only been keeping up with this stuff for about 2 weeks but aren't cylinders suppose to have teeth on them how does it work? and what would you say is the top piston head or at least the best one for my gun.

Trivium01 October 2nd, 2007 22:39

:P Pistons are what have teeth on them, piston heads (are attached to the piston) make a seal with the cylinder, pushing the air out the cylinder head.

As for the top piston head, I believe I have a guarder in mine, but you'd have to look around to see what the overall census is. I'm also pretty sure there's a post on the better ones somewhere..

http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=6677

This is the bible of upgrading airsoft parts IMO

And I just realized that you want a type 0 for a longer barrel length. You want a type II for your particular barrel length, though I haven't had any experience with using a type 0 with a shorter barrel

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 22:46

totally miss-read the name it said non ported cylinder not piston wow i feel dumb so what the heck is a cylinder suppose to do i'm in grade 11 mechanics but this is just over my head lol! piston is suppose to go into the cylinder and push the pelt into the hopup witch then does out the barrel and hit's your target. so now I'm wondering what possibly could be wrong with a cylinder that would require you to even think of upgrading it?

answered my question took 2 minutes just looking it up srry for that!

zurg October 2nd, 2007 22:55

Deans connector :
https://www.rctoys.com/rc-toys-and-p...RS-WIRING.html

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 22:58

Wow a lot has changed with this gun. lets keep this going.
do you like my piston selection? the Deep Fire Full titanium coated teeth standard piston?

Trivium01 October 2nd, 2007 23:00

I've never heard of a cylinder itself breaking. Most people change cylinder's because:

a) they've changed the barrel length of their gun,

b) get a bore-up kit rather than a tighter spring, as they reduce wear on the gears (which IMO are overpriced - $90 more for a kit than a spring - and aren't worth it)

c) want to get greater FPS without using a tighter spring, though I would recommend looking at http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=18038 before doing that

I would stay with the stock CA polycarbonate piston (cheap if they break), as those deepfire ones are shite (had one for less than 2000 rounds before it cracked). Another option is a systema piston, but for the price you could probably replace with a CA one twice over

Nova316 October 2nd, 2007 23:06

I'd stay away from Full titanium Teeth piston Go with Systema PolyCarb (black piston) or if u have the money get a Promethus Hard piston <- Work amazing

Unless u go with Helical gearset then U need the matching 1/2 teeth pistons.. I still recommend Polycarbonate over Full steel teeth.. Much cheaper to replace the entire piston then it is to replace an entire set of gears

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 23:07

ok i'll keep with the CA any ways look at this little timbit. yea this whole piston category has been giving me trouble still don't know how good my piston head is i think i might change to the Systema Duracon piston head with bearings.
http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/zs0432.jpg

attack-beaver October 2nd, 2007 23:11

guys not to be an ass buts hes 15.

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 23:12

I'm 22 this is my brothers account.

surebet October 2nd, 2007 23:13

Ugh, I feel like a jerk to mention this, but that shopping list is only fantasy at this point, you're 15. Besides, before doing work in the box or swapping every possible piece, play the gun stock.

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 23:17

Quote:

Ugh, I feel like a jerk to mention this, but that shopping list is only fantasy at this point, you're 15. Besides, before doing work in the box or swapping every possible piece, play the gun stock.
this is called Dream gun and I'm his brother Alex. Brandon is at are dads (parents are split up) he made this account while i was working to get some info so he could tell me when i got home.

@surebet
np dont feel like a jerk its on my profile i should edit it.

surebet October 2nd, 2007 23:21

FYI, we've had an... 'incident' not too long ago. Since you are local to a player base, get age verified, else it might look something like this fast:
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=41140

dodger_me October 2nd, 2007 23:26

oh fuck not that thread

OneTimePoster October 2nd, 2007 23:28

not to bring this tread to off subject but Jesus that doesn't look very good. that kid looks around 11-14. also don't worry about my bro thats my job lol the gun is going to be under my name not his and i will have it at my house and not his.
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back on subject now please

Regan.S October 2nd, 2007 23:35

Hahah I remember that thread! A terrible day it was.

Regan.S October 2nd, 2007 23:39

Anyways to get back on topic why don't you get a nice 551/552 from Huang. Eotech clone. http://www.dragonredairsoft.com/airs...t_locale=en_US

He's got alot of nice stuff on there including a tactical vertical grip combinded with a surefire m900 ( 500 lumen version ) for only 130.00? Anyways I advise you to look around there for accessories. I'm sure Huang will answer any of your questions just PM him if you have any about that site.

Andres October 2nd, 2007 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by surebet (Post 546506)
FYI, we've had an... 'incident' not too long ago. Since you are local to a player base, get age verified, else it might look something like this fast:
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=41140

Haha, I remember.

OneTimePoster October 3rd, 2007 00:12

well this thread is dead thanks to 2 guys saying i was 15 oh well i dont really care for the people that post4ed thnx for the help I've learned a crap load from his thread.

surebet October 3rd, 2007 00:13

PROTIP: to avoid having something like that happen again, get age verified on your own account. Unfortunatly, we've had many a minor come and go with an older brother or uncle or whatever that 'shared' the account.

attack-beaver October 3rd, 2007 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimePoster (Post 546499)
I'm 22 this is my brothers account.

ok, maybe you should atleast change the age? some other people wont be kind about the age.

surebet October 3rd, 2007 00:23

As long as there isn't an age verified tag under his name, age in profile doesn't mean anything.

damage October 3rd, 2007 03:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syn (Post 546420)
hmm had to double check but yes they do
http://www.21stcenturyairsoft.com/pr..._Inner_Barrels

"High grade precision barrel from Prometheus at 6.04mm diameter for extra power and precision shooting. High grade precision barrel from Prometheus at 6.04mm"

you use 6.03 with no jamming? Thats good to know, I was afraid of going to 6.03, although I really want too. Thaks for that bit of confidence. (offtopic- Anyone out there using 6.02 or 6.01 without jams? lollers)

Looking at laylax webpage. They dont make 6.04 tightbores only 6.03mm.

I had zero jams on my 6.02mm. Actually all of my BA and Aeg has 6.02mm super tightbore. Compared to 6.03 and 6.04, 6.02 tightbore will outrange larger ID tightbores anyday.

Foe October 8th, 2007 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimePoster (Post 546499)
I'm 22 this is my brothers account.

"what the heck is a cylinder suppose to do i'm in grade 11 mechanics but this is just over my head lol!"

Do you plan to finish highschool anytime soon?

shifty51 October 8th, 2007 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 546438)
Just for reference wise, I have a V3 TM AUG mechbox with an 8.4V battery and stock internals except for a Systema M120 spring, Systema bearing spring guide, and metal bushings, and I'm pushing 400.

did you re-shim as well? If not you gears may become loose, which is bad. I have almost the same setup in my Aug as well, and so far very pleased. I have a 6.03mm tighbore in mine though, and it made a HUGE dfference.

Styrak October 8th, 2007 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by shifty51 (Post 550047)
did you re-shim as well? If not you gears may become loose, which is bad. I have almost the same setup in my Aug as well, and so far very pleased. I have a 6.03mm tighbore in mine though, and it made a HUGE dfference.

I didn't reshim but it was already shimmed by the previous owner, so I don't think it's a problem. Haven't had any problems. Also, I have a stock barrel. Planning on putting a 590mm tightbore in though.


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