Eye protection
 

I was looking at mesh goggles casue 1) im not willing to dish out over $100 for the goggles let alone the prescription lenses that for my glasses are like $400. i just wanted to know peoples opinions on them. That and the low profile masks Ive seen aswell.



I play indoors all CQB. Under 375 FPS guns they're chrono'd ever game to make sure.

I wouldn't touch mesh goggles with someone else's 10 foot pole. They don't protect against chips from BB's (and yes, they do chip when they hit something hard).
You may want to rethink your eyes not being worth $500 to you.

So if it just chips can I not just wear my normal glasses with the mesh goggles? wouldnt that stop the chips?

I wear Bolle - Parole, and the ballistic insert. (you can get the prescription insert instead of the ballistic) They are shooters glasses and a dam fine pair i might add. The price was about $300.00 canadian. My insurance covered all of it. Thats right, i did not pay a dime. All you need to do is talk to your eye doctor and he will probaby order them for ya.

I've worn the mesh goggles and taken many direct hits to them. No chips at all. Unless you're playing with upgraded guns, it'll probably be fine. They are heavier than regular goggles though, and the mesh screen might take a little while to get used to. At least they don't fog!

Right now, though, I'm using Uvex Tac-1 goggles. They resist fogging pretty well, they're light, they're comfortable, and they fit really well with my PASGT. Should be able to fit glasses under them as well, as they are pretty wide. Paid about $75, including shipping, for 'em.

I use my ESS googles for biking if it's shitty outside, they go over my glasses.

Push comes to shove, get a ANSI certified pair of goggles and use contacts.

Protect your eyes, you only have two!

http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/pr...romSearch=true

Theese will provide more than adiquate protection and will fit over your glasses (they fit over my girlfriends) also some fields will only allow paintball rated goggles.
note the goggle can be removed from the mask if you dont want full coverage I use just the goggles outdoors and the full mask I have cut down for indoors and now it is a helmet ear and mouth guard the stuff is easy to cut and easy to paint so you can get that custome look for under $100.00 and thats if you buy 3 colours of paint and a ghille kit.

Bolle T 800 Tactical Goggles is a Ballistic Goggle designed for long term use and helmet compatibility.

Here what I just order for my self!!

I would recommend going against mesh googles. There's too many factors involved with whether the BB will shatter or not on the googles. The bb brand, how old the bb's are, have they been exposed to a lot of UV (will weaken the plastic), the fps of the gun etc etc.

If you do a search on here for mesh goggles or wire goggles you'll find some reviews past users have done. I once even found a thread...possibly on another forum where the reviewer used a bolt action lvl2 or lvl3 sniper rifle at 20 feet against his mesh goggles and it tore clean through, he wasn't wearing them at the time of course.

One of many links you can find on google when you search for paintball/airsoft goggle mesh/ansi rating.
http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/in...howtopic=69231

And why mesh masks are bad:
http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/in...howtopic=59480

Honestly, I have worn lots of eye protection and it has only stopped a BB once.

It has however stopped:

- branches
- rocks
- bugs
- dirt
- beer
- ash
- fingers
- feet

etc

from hitting my eyes.

There are more than BB's to protect your eyes from in airsoft brother. Indoors is no different.

Mesh don't cut it, in my opinion.

x2 I've had a pair of ESS Land Ops for about a year now that I'd bought for about $50 (yeah...good n' cheap) and they came with all the trimmings.
The foam on the back has relief so that they'll fit overtop your glasses with no pressure or discomfort (I've worn them during a couple 12-hour games with no problems).

My brother got a pair of Z87.1 approved goggles for like 10$ they have an insert piece that holds your prescription lenses, and that's inexpensive as well.
You can NEVER spend enough money protecting your eyes, I've got a 67$ pair of ESS ICE goggles for outdoor use, 3/32" thick lexan shields on my gas mask for indoors (rated to withstand impacts in excess of 20 joules), and a 120$ pair of ESS advancer V-12s for when I'm wearing my helmet.

plus with a mesh mask you can't see ANYTHING in dark conditions lol

does anyone know if the V-force grill paintball mask can be worn with a melmet? i think it should because the V-force profiiler can.

Don't cheap out on eye protection unless you want eye damage.

if ther soooo bad to wear why are they allowed to sell them? ive used them tonnes of time and there great as far as the fogging is concerned. That and Ive seen more goggles (all balistics rated I know that for a fact casue they were all mine) shattered from BB's then Ive herd of the mesh goggles hurting some one.



That and Im curious about if just mesh goggles and my glasses would be fine till I can get the cash for the ESS stuff. I mean if a BB chips there is no way the fragment would go threw my glasses would it? (there the shatter resistant plastic lenses for high impact sports btw and they didnt shatter from me taking a puck in the face last year).

If your opinion was already made, why ask the question? Not to be rude, but military, ANSI rated googles will beat the crap out of mesh masks, hands down.

Out of curiosity, what were the lenses that failed you?

Wear contacts, thats what I do, makes you're life wayyyy easier.

Wear what you want, but if you go blind don't come running to us.
If you're worried about fog, get a set of ESS Profile Turbofans with a thermal lense. They will not fog on you. They're expensive, but a better set of eye protection you will not find.
I've seen lots of folks use shooting glasses style eye protection and while it's much less obtrusive and has a high look cool factor I can't figure out why anyone would want to wear it with the lack of side protection it gives. Doesn't stop me from opening up on a guy if I only see the side of their head. I'm already down to one eye, so I protect it at all costs. Yours, I could care less about. If you're dumb enough to not wear something that seals around your eyes, well, I fail to see where that becomes my problem.

ummm all I asked was if it would be ok for the short term? like 3 games maybe if that. Ive already made an appointment for the optomitrist for contacts that way I can just wear not normal ESS Land Ops stuff I was looking as already.

You know there are many paintball rated masks (allowed everywhere) that easily fit over glasses, right?

4 years of paintball and Ive never found one that dosnt shove my glasses into my brain.

Plus I figure a pair of the ESS goggles plus a couple pairs of daily disposable contacts are cheaper then the 400 dollars for prescription inserts

http://www.essgoggles.com/Profile---...12_detail.html + any pair of ESS.

It seems better and cheeper just to buy a pair of the ESS ICE-2X and wear contacts with them. The contacts only cost like 30-40 and the goggles are only 67.

Unless Ive understood the ESS site wrong and the lenses (with corrections to them) and insert together are only the $30.00. Cause if thats the case Im just REALLY tired and didnt understand lol and now feel like an idiot :D.

I was looking on ebay last night and ordered these. If you search these up on the forum i think there is a review from other people who got these. Cost about $30 with shipping included: http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-Arena-Vyken-F...QQcmdZViewItem

I honesly think I like the ESS Ice series better. All I wear when Im in game is goggles, my spec ops head wrap, my black pants and t shirt and mouth guard (so I dont get another tooth shot out lol.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that if you have a broader face or a flatter nose (as many asians do) then many ballistic goggles may leave a gap at the bridge of the nose.

Thus far, I've found that Bolle T-800s leave the smallest gap. Revision Bullet Ants leave a moderate gap, while Wiley-X Spears leave a fairly large one. ESS has recently released their Asian-Fit line that includes the Profile and the Stalker (no Turbofan models yet, and replacement lenses won't be available to be ordered online until at least next month).

For those who find this gap a concern, paintball goggles may be the only other alternative.

I gotta go get some contacts...then I just wear regular ballistic glasses :D

Lol thats what I think ill do. That way I can get rid of the stupid line my glasses have around the rims that wonderful bluddy bit lol. Some cheap daily contacts and a pair of the ESS ICE should work perfectly.

Ok out here (Calgary) I have played with mesh goggles and yeah after you get one hit with them you preaty much throw them aside... also out here if our Admins think that the glasses/googles you are wearing won't with stand a BB they will test it. I know I have had rounds to the face at about 10 feet and I thank god that I was wearing my bilistic rated goggles intsted of my mesh.... I know my eyes are worth more than any AEG out there....... \

Our indoor limits are 320fps and I have seen a round go through a mesh before........ so... yeah don't wear mesh and that's coming from experence....

Ya Ive made the choice. ESS ICE for me Ill just get the inserts or more likly just grab some contacts and do it that way. Thx guys for the help.

Ive had BBs fly through mesh before. wasnt pleasent.

Im a fan of the ESS ICE glasses. Used em since the start of this season and they havnt fogged up once.

on the contrary, my ESS ICE glasses came in the same shipment as yours... And mine fog like CRAZY... It's all Dependant on the person.

I usually just wear a paintball mask I still have from when I played paintball, reduces visibility and for some people they fog but mine never do for some reason.

As far as I am concerned, if your willing to spend a thousand dollars on a gun what is another $50-350 for a ballistic rated goggle? I know at the end of the day, what is more important? your eyes or that $50 for goggle.
And like someone else mentioned, there are more things in a game to worry about then just BB's. Countless times I have been wacked in the face by branches, etc. I don't know how well a mesh goggle would hold up to things like that but I am not into the game of trying to find out.

And another thing I don't know about all fields, I know with us our goggles must be ballistic rated so you might want to check with your field what they allow. And also I know the ESS striker series goggles fit over most glasses and they aren't too expensive ($80ish)

I love my ESS NVG Goggles! I wear a Mich 2002 when I play and they fit perfectly with the Mich and help ventaltion and they have never fogged. I also use them when I am skating to school in the morning when it is cold because when I go fast my eyes water up and I cant see a thing. I also use them for snowboarding. Trust me. I think your eyes are worth over 100$

Im indoor only atm so that does not apply to me.

And another thing I don't know about all fields, I know with us our goggles must be ballistic rated so you might want to check with your field what they allow. And also I know the ESS striker series goggles fit over most glasses and they aren't too expensive ($80ish)[/QUOTE]


Those are under the Key Features section:

Night-Vision Compatible
2.4mm Lenses
Extra-Wide Field of View
Interchangeable Lenses
ANSI-Compliant
Mil Spec
ToughZone Lenses
Rx Available



And as you can see there are ANSI compliant so ya there just fine and yes our arena says they have to be aswell. If the ESS Ice fog on me alot Ill spring more for the turbofan series but the ESS Ice offer side protection from what the reviews say and Ill just wear contacts so I dont have to worry about inserts.

Indoor airsoft, and non sealing-around-the-eyes glasses? Well, they're your eyes... :(

The site says there a tight fit on your head with good side protection.

For those interested, http://www.badlandspaintball.com/gogglesafety.html is selling it for $10 less ($49.99) than CanT.

Ive taken a full auto burst to the face from selousscouts totally custom PPSH in a WW2 game, all BB's hit the left eye side of my mask. Im glad I wasnt wearing mesh cause I dont know how well they would have held up.

Does anyone use the ESS Advancer V12's? I don't mind buying a more expensive goggle, but I want to make sure it'll work properly for me.

any therma google or safety glasses that is wrap around snug against cheeck, temporal bone region, and eye brow....and is ANSI Z87.1 approuved
will be sufficient....trust me I work in a Dental Laboratory and my uvex safety glasses saved me quite a few times from ballistic shoots more than any airsoft gun force would trajectile again my savety glasses, by the way they only cost around 20$ to 30$ or so....again, cannot stress more than this, MAKE SURE that it is ANSI Z87.1 approuved...

wont shop glasses do the trick for those who cant really afford a 500$ pair of goggles?

are you talking about

http://www.essgoggles.com/uploads/Ad...stic_Specs.pdf

After trying them today, I am also interested, is anyone using these type of googles?....how is the fogging?

Did you not read any of this thread, or the FAQ yet? Oh, nevermind, I forgot the FAQ (and anything with common sense) was invisible.

A decent paintball mask, acceptable at any game, is far less than $500. Eye damage (usually permanent) is far more than $500.

Under 20$
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=1234858

If you can't afford to spend $50-100 on good eye protection, you can't afford to play this game. Honestly. It's one thing to save money by making a good purchase, but it's another entirely to approach the situation with a "what's the least I can spend on this" mindset.

Your eyes are the one piece of equipment you absolutely cannot replace. Even if you were to splurge and get something like the ESS Profile Turbofan goggles, you're still under $200. That's less than the price of one gas blowback gun, or four mags at full retail price. Are you saying your eyes aren't worth that much?

Since I first got into airsoft (and not including my experiences in paintball) I've put money into five paintball masks and three ballistic goggles/glasses, all in an effort to find the perfect fit. More than any other piece of equipment, eye pro should be something you put time and effort into ensuring fits well.

Im up to 11 pairs of goggles, mix of wileys, diffrent brand of paintball goggles and ballistic goggles. You never know when you have to have a diffrent set up, and eye protection us very important.

I rememeber seeing reviews on airsoft goggles on YouTube. They shot different kind of gloggles with guns with different FPS.


But hey, buy cheap goggles, don't blame it on us that you get blind. You lose an eye, or both, can't replace them, you'll never play airsoft or anything. You can only play pirate games with your kids or sit home and do nothing.

i have a pair of the mesh goggles,,super tough. stood up to a point blank sniper shooting .36 and full auto point blank burst from my ics with .20 some denting of the cage but no catastrophic failure.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...4/IMG_0745.jpg

however,,,,wasnt overly fond of them and the risk factors far out weigh the benefits. yes you can wear protective inner glasses or whatever to protect against shards,,,but all it takes one fluke accident and you will regret it the rest of your life. i switched back to my trusty jt thermals for the ultimate in protection.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ow_profile.jpg

my mesh goggles are reserved for when im filming or admining a game and not in direct firefights.

this is what "ed the sock" says about mesh goggles

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e258/six4/Ed.jpg

can I wear ESS striker turbo fan google in paintball fields?

here is the link
http://www.essgoggles.com/Striker-Tu..._7_detail.html

You would need to have permission from the field owner, but as a heads up most paintball fields will only permit paintball approved goggles. It's an insurance issue.

You should give these a look: http://www.essgoggles.com/Asian-Fit-..._category.html

An I agree with Ibby, I don't think its that smart to be indoor airsofting with non-sealing goggles. I know that it says the ICE series has good side protection, but like it says they are eye-shields not goggles. Then again, its your call.

what are the best for paintball approuved google, that is comparable to the ESS striker turbo fan one's

Funny, I shot clean through one of those this weekend with my sniper rifle shooting 450 with .20's

See these kinds of questions amuse me the most... mesh or not mesh. Everyone says don't wear mesh cause they broke when I shot them full auto point blank etc...

I have only been playing airsoft for a year now and I have had mesh goggles the exact pair that Six 4 has for about 3-4 months? and I have had no problems at all. I have taken a couple hits to the mask but nothing ever happened except it scared me silly. Now this is only from personal experience.. we use good quality bb's no cheap bb's are aloud on the field, these bb's were tested by shooting them at the ground and no chips, the bb's just dented. I have never been shot point blank full auto in the face or anywhere else, not even by new players. I don't see anything wrong with them except when you look up while its raining you get water in your eye's.

.. even the highest quality BB's explode when they hit a solid surface without give...

Mesh goggles are OK... But they're not ideal.. say the one situation where you're running, you pop around a corner and startle a sniper... He pulls the trigger and you get a 450+ FPS bb going straight through your mesh goggles into your eyes.

They're fine for guns with Japanese limitations (1J limit.. I believe that's 350 on .2's) but over here we hardly adhere to Japanese FPS limits.

I agree with the ICEs not being the best for CQC situations, and generally indoors it's easier to get off the field and remove the googles, wipe out fog, etc.

A caveat is that with my MICH on, someone would have to stick the muzzle of their gun under the helmet and fire it with the muzzle next to my temple in order to get a BB in from the side.

Hmm, something just occurred to me on the chip side of the mesh goggle argument...

Why is it that mesh goggles are marketed to people who work outdoors, using heavy machinery? (most specifically, logging, chainsaw work)
eg) http://www.maximumeyewear.com/produc...r-goggles.html

I'd personally expect MORE threat from incoming chips/flakes/particles/dust/whathaveyou from chainsaws hitting timber than from a BB hitting the mesh.

Just wondering why that was.

I use ICE with RX adapters at some field games, but most of the time I run my Profile turbofans. Goggles cost me ~$160, RX adapter $30, lenses $0 (insurance.) In my opinion from using big goggles over my glasses for more than a year, my setup is worth every penny and then some.

I would never wear my ICE at an indoor CQB game, have one coming up on the 1st of Dec and I'm not even considering my ICE, sealed goggles or bust.

Also don't forget that bio BB's shatter on impact. That happens with your ballistic polycarb sealing goggles, might get a tiny bit in if you don't have complete sand/dust coverage. With mesh goggles, you just got a face full of shards of plastic and dust with 1.49J of energy behind it. Happened to an Ottawa player at Border Wars. He had non-sealing ballistic goggles and he got an eye full of bio shrapnel.

Well I don't play indoors.. I play on a big field and the only time I have startled a sniper has been when I walk behind him and step on him >< but I can see your point.

And yes I have seen those mesh goggles for chainsaw workers etc... its because fogging is such a big issue when they are in the forests working all day.

But again... we have done the whole point blank full auto test to some of these goggles and no problems and so I am sticking with them for my outdoor games, especially with the players I play with.

most of the players in the calgary area use ESS ICEs. JOC has no issues with paint ball fields recuiring us wear a paint ball mask, we mainly play on paintball fields and our googles/glasses are fine. However JOC will not permit mesh goggles to be worn, there are a lot of times in our indoor arena when bbs shatter and we have a 320FPS maximum

Mesh goggles/face protection issued to forest workes sucks big time, I have been in forestry for 7-8 years now and snall debree from the timber will penetrate while you are working with a chainsaw. So I now also use a pair of Uvex glasses as additional protection.

The mesh goggles in airsoft are on the other hand not as bad as people claim. I have tried to get a BB to go through this goggle:

http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...G5_cat_Goggles And Glasses

I have been shooting it with a Tanaka M700 putting out 4J at E0 or 200mps with a .2g BB. I have hit the same point time and time again I have nevet managed to penetrate the mesh. HOEWEVER, and here is the point to why not to wear mesh goggles in the field. The BB will penetrate through the ventilation holes in the side, in the connection between the mesh and the goggle, in the connection between the goggle and the face shield. It only takes one BB hit near the edge of the mesh to couse the mesh to be tawn out of the goggle, leaving a gab for the next BB.

So in conclusion, they are worse than people claim.

Personally I use eigher a pair of Bollé T800 or a pair of Uvex i-vo. I tried the Waily-X SG-1 but they fog up just as fast as I put them on, so they are useless.