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paranoid987 October 6th, 2007 12:08

Winnipeg Free Press Article
 
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sub...-4658709c.html

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sub...-4658772c.html

Mr Jon October 6th, 2007 12:14

That was completey unexpected... awesome

ThePUNISHER October 6th, 2007 12:18

good article...puts a good image towards the public

TokyoSeven October 6th, 2007 12:23

Thats actually really nifty, and very well written.
Im glad we can get some good publicity towards airsoft.

tony123 October 6th, 2007 12:25

Sweet dealio. Were on the good side of the news for once. :D

Zeonprime October 6th, 2007 12:32

A nice positive article :)

redmond October 6th, 2007 12:33

Bolt action M14? Good article though. They should of mentioned customs.

Chrios October 6th, 2007 13:26

I think in this case, we should be happy to accept what we've been given :)

Moz October 6th, 2007 13:33

expecting many letters to the editor soon.

Stupideye October 6th, 2007 13:35

I just read that article about an hour ago and was planning to post it up here, looks like someone already did ;) I really like how the article isn't putting airsoft down like I'm sure many have done in the past.

Goldman October 6th, 2007 13:39

Somone send that writer a bottle of scotch....

Syn October 6th, 2007 13:44

Wholly, finally an exciting and positive airsoft article in the media!

Moderate October 6th, 2007 14:08

Good article. Some terms that I didn't understand (air bombs? bolt action m14s?), but overall it gave a positive outlook on this sport.

Cortexburn October 6th, 2007 14:10

Email sent to the editor, I fully support all those in the community who enjoyed that article to submit support for the writer.

This article is what we need more of.

Ducky October 6th, 2007 14:16

Airsoft in MB has really evolved a lot and is heading in a very good direction. This article is just what we need; along with increased organization, and the real push for our association here to be more official, things will only get better.

We need more of this from other places in Canada.

Rukus October 6th, 2007 16:28

+1 for that, great article.

Captain Tenneal October 6th, 2007 16:38

Great article, just saw it at work.

I have a feeling there'll be a LOT of people coming to noob day this october... :S

Savage Haggis October 7th, 2007 00:37

Well, would you look at that.

It's about damn time...

Nice job.

Styrak October 7th, 2007 02:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by redmond (Post 548862)
Bolt action M14? Good article though. They should of mentioned customs.

Indeed. I was like "ugh, the media again, trying to explain things and sound 'cool' or adding unneeded prefixes or suffixes to everything".
But not a bad article in it's entirety.

EDIT: Oh and yeah GIRL PLAYING?! Awesome!

Hortons Heros October 7th, 2007 02:04

very cool, big thanks to whoever was involved with this article

Lakonian October 7th, 2007 02:11

Cool stuff.

Who did she play with? Any guys from ASC? I saw "Wolfpack" being mentioned..

Skruface October 7th, 2007 10:37

Some of the Winnipeg Wolfpack guy use this board, but mostly only for access to the buy & sell. Most use their own forum or the MAA forums. And yeah, it's all the same Wolfpack - Ontario and Manitoba are one and the same.

Amos October 7th, 2007 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 549192)
EDIT: Oh and yeah GIRL PLAYING?! Awesome!

That's nothing new!

My team's got a girl that actively plays! Not some one's girlfriend who's there just to take pictures!

paranoid987 October 7th, 2007 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skruface (Post 549333)
And yeah, it's all the same Wolfpack - Ontario and Manitoba are one and the same.

Not True

ScottMcLeod October 7th, 2007 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducky (Post 548916)
Airsoft in MB has really evolved a lot and is heading in a very good direction. This article is just what we need; along with increased organization, and the real push for our association here to be more official, things will only get better.

We need more of this from other places in Canada.

+1

It'd be nice if Ontario and Canada Central would get some good press about it.

Endymion October 7th, 2007 12:48

Unfortunately for Ontario, the vast majority of the population is focused around urban centres and thus so is the media. You'd have to get through to the journalist and the editor and even then, the populace would see and hear only what they want to - i.e. "oh my gawd, people running around with realistic looking guns in the area shooting each other - we need to ban!"

Rukus October 7th, 2007 14:26

Would be nice to see something on the west coast like this too. And my wife plays with me and she likes it just as much as I do. :D

ScottMcLeod October 7th, 2007 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endymion (Post 549380)
Unfortunately for Ontario, the vast majority of the population is focused around urban centres and thus so is the media. You'd have to get through to the journalist and the editor and even then, the populace would see and hear only what they want to - i.e. "oh my gawd, people running around with realistic looking guns in the area shooting each other - we need to ban!"

Yep. It'd be nice if people would accept it like paintball/lasertag, but unfortunately they [don't usually] (edit).

Zekk05 October 8th, 2007 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottMcLeod (Post 549414)
Yep. It'd be nice if people would accept it like paintball/lasertag, but unfortunately they won't.

theres a defeatist attitude.
people will believe what they want to believe, but what they read can influence what they believe. look at this way, right now theyre already thinking "omg, para military freaks training to do evil things", so if you dont do anything, nothing will change.


The girl in the article was the journalist that came to US. not the other way round. she approached us asking to do an article on the sport.


all the same, like Amos said, there are girls in the MAA on teams who actually come out on a regular basis. including one on our team.

ScottMcLeod October 8th, 2007 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekk05 (Post 549752)
theres a defeatist attitude.
people will believe what they want to believe, but what they read can influence what they believe. look at this way, right now theyre already thinking "omg, para military freaks training to do evil things", so if you dont do anything, nothing will change.


The girl in the article was the journalist that came to US. not the other way round. she approached us asking to do an article on the sport.


all the same, like Amos said, there are girls in the MAA on teams who actually come out on a regular basis. including one on our team.

I work with a small independent newspaper. I wasn't trying to be defeatist, I was just reflecting the attitudes of people that went against a few people that tried to open a field somewhere in Toronto a few years ago...

That's impressive though. Did she say what sparked her into the idea of writing the article?

jaymz1911 October 8th, 2007 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekk05 (Post 549752)
theres a defeatist attitude.
people will believe what they want to believe, but what they read can influence what they believe. look at this way, right now theyre already thinking "omg, para military freaks training to do evil things", so if you dont do anything, nothing will change.

Yup... And fuel the fires for the bible thumpers in this country who would love to see all guns and military stuff band out of the country, so as to keep there freakish way of lives free of violance! ??? :confused:

ScottMcLeod October 8th, 2007 02:22

On a related note:

New Zealand sounds very much like Canada with regard to airsoft laws:

YouTube - airsoft on closeup

NZTV Close-up on : "Airsoft"

Some press as well executed as this could probably help us. It presents the topic in a fair way, and offers professional (police) representation that states the rules and that airsoft poses in no way a threat to society as long as it's players respect the law and play in clearly defined areas.

Styrak October 8th, 2007 02:34

Semi-only in New Zealand? Man, that sucks even worse than Canada.

Death March October 8th, 2007 18:28

The two teams that were there are Wolfpack & Team C.A.M. it was better than we though,but the turnout was lower than we thought uh,yeh! I'm thinking about that one lol.

Cushak October 8th, 2007 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaymz1911 (Post 549764)
Yup... And fuel the fires for the bible thumpers in this country who would love to see all guns and military stuff band out of the country, so as to keep there freakish way of lives free of violance! ??? :confused:

Uhhh, excuse me?

Amos October 8th, 2007 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 549796)
Semi-only in New Zealand? Man, that sucks even worse than Canada.

I could live with Semi only :D (That's all I use anyways!)

Sergeantmajor October 8th, 2007 20:23

Quote:

bolt-action M14 rifles.
wtf?

Moderate October 8th, 2007 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaymz1911 (Post 549764)
Yup... And fuel the fires for the bible thumpers in this country who would love to see all guns and military stuff band out of the country, so as to keep there freakish way of lives free of violance! ??? :confused:

What are you on?

Ducky October 8th, 2007 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endymion (Post 549380)
Unfortunately for Ontario, the vast majority of the population is focused around urban centres and thus so is the media. You'd have to get through to the journalist and the editor and even then, the populace would see and hear only what they want to - i.e. "oh my gawd, people running around with realistic looking guns in the area shooting each other - we need to ban!"

Umm Winnipeg free press is in an urban center; 650,000 people is pretty sizable. Most of which have never worked on a farm. What I meant by my original post was that Ontario is generally considered at least the political center of Canada; therefore it would be nice to see stuff like that there where in theory it would do the greatest good.

Don't get me wrong I am not trying to come off arrogant over the changes, and direction we have here. What I am getting at is that this type of positive coverage could be much more influential in your "urban center" than in Winnipeg.

Endymion October 9th, 2007 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducky (Post 550258)
Umm Winnipeg free press is in an urban center; 650,000 people is pretty sizable. Most of which have never worked on a farm. What I meant by my original post was that Ontario is generally considered at least the political center of Canada; therefore it would be nice to see stuff like that there where in theory it would do the greatest good.

Don't get me wrong I am not trying to come off arrogant over the changes, and direction we have here. What I am getting at is that this type of positive coverage could be much more influential in your "urban center" than in Winnipeg.

Perhaps I should have chosen my words more carefully. I didn't mean to knock Winnipeg or imply anything regarding its size or location. What I meant to illustrate was the disparity within Ontario given its population distribution.

Among other issues and political leanings, there's a markedly different outlook regarding firearms between city centres and those as nearby as 50km out. Several of our own forum members here are legal firearms owners within the province - for those out of the cities, ask them how their neighbours feel about firearms possession vs. "the rest of Ontario."

While I agree that such positive coverage could indeed be influential and beneficial, one would first have to break through the anti-gun mindset predominant in those for whom firearms have never been a part of their lives save for the negative associations with crime brought about by the media and political maneuvering. Until then, it's more likely that even such a positive story would somehow be used against the sport to further the agendas of those moving to ban firearms and their replicas outright.

Blackthorne October 9th, 2007 08:48

A writer who actually came out and played before writing the piece.

The only bit of journalism I have seen in years.

Impressive. X2 on the scotch. A bloody good year as well.

Gunman November 21st, 2007 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottMcLeod (Post 549759)
That's impressive though. Did she say what sparked her into the idea of writing the article?

The reporter had a co-work come into our facility for a bachelor party. And since he had such a great time he started to spread the word at his work (The Winnipeg Free Press). Shortly after that the reported did some research on our facility and she contacted our office to set up an appointment.

I then contacted our local Manitoba Airsoft Association to see if they were interested in participation along with other airsoft friends and fellow customers. That way the press would have comments from different “levels” of airsofters.

Prior to the meeting I had a prep talk to those being interviewed about our purpose of this interview and how we need to use it to bring up the positive “healthy living & active lifestyle” of this sport.

The interview started off at our indoor facility (Located inside of the city). Then later migrated to our outdoor facility. The more we talked about outdoor airsoft/Milsim, the more worked up the reporter got about it.

We later decided to have a friendly scrim with some local players. We provided the reporter with some rental equipment so she can join the game. All in all everyone had a good time. Unfortunately I cannot provide any further details about the second portion of the interview at our outdoor location as I was not present at the time. But by reading the final result everything turned out well.

I apologize for not giving an earlier response to this topic as I rarely frequent these boards.


I hope that answers some of your questions.


Gordon Lai
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www.xtreme-tactics.com/store
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mopic November 21st, 2007 20:47

Well written, It was done in a way that avoids the controversy. I think the next big game we should do a media invite. Anyone in corporate communications will tell you that you have to control the message. I can guarantee that as soon as there is a negative incident the media will seek us out. By having some positive press it will soften the blow when there will be a less than positive incident.


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