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ACU Kyle October 20th, 2007 09:49

KJW USP P8
 
CLOSED

Lakonian October 20th, 2007 10:23

Plastic frame, and you can't carry airsoft USPs in the "cocked/locked" position.

Kimbo October 20th, 2007 10:33

Triggers on pretty much all H&K airsoft guns are prone to breaking so be careful you don't pull the trigger while the gun is on safe.

ACU Kyle October 20th, 2007 10:59

well the real USP has a plastic frame as well. But how does a safe pull hurt the trigger?

Lakonian October 20th, 2007 11:12

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Originally Posted by ACU Kyle (Post 558654)
well the real USP has a plastic frame as well. But how does a safe pull hurt the trigger?

Yeah, but you see, airsoft ABS is NOT (and I stress that) on par with RS polymers.

The AS (KSC) USP's magwell gets pretty chewed up after you've been drilling with it for a while. This isn't coming out of my ass either. I owned one for close to 3 years (just sold her last night).

Styrak October 20th, 2007 13:35

So why can't you carry it cocked and locked?

matt491 October 20th, 2007 13:40

Only bad thing about the KJW USP P8 in my opinion is no trades. The internals IMO aren't that bad, despite what people say, the mags do get a little leaky after good use, but it's an easy fix with some teflon tape! And it comes full metal? If trades don't matter to you, you can't go wrong. Great gun in my opinion.

Trades matter to me, so I'm looking for a KSC USP .45

Sergeantmajor October 20th, 2007 13:50

my dad has a USP and when its cocked and you put it on safe, it decocks it. your pistol would be holstered hot, witch isnt very safe.

ACU Kyle October 20th, 2007 13:58

lol so its almost like my sig?

ACU Kyle October 20th, 2007 15:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt491 (Post 558713)
Only bad thing about the KJW USP P8 in my opinion is no trades. The internals IMO aren't that bad, despite what people say, the mags do get a little leaky after good use, but it's an easy fix with some teflon tape! And it comes full metal? If trades don't matter to you, you can't go wrong. Great gun in my opinion.

Trades matter to me, so I'm looking for a KSC USP .45

thanks for the info! i think ill just have mine laser engraved with replica USP info.
great comments, cheers! :p

skalnok October 20th, 2007 15:24

and how much will that cost?

matt491 October 20th, 2007 15:36

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Originally Posted by ACU Kyle (Post 558788)
thanks for the info! i think ill just have mine laser engraved with replica USP info.
great comments, cheers! :p

Get age verified, buy a used one on the forums here. Some already even have upgraded metal slides with the proper trades and all and are STILL cheaper than new.
But the main thing is GET AGE VERIFIED. If you're under 18, which by your dp, you certainly look like you are, you ain't gettin' one.

dodger_me October 20th, 2007 15:47

Also You might want a magwell rubber thingy, A holster can easily bump the mag catch

Styrak October 20th, 2007 18:24

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Originally Posted by Sergeantmajor (Post 558718)
my dad has a USP and when its cocked and you put it on safe, it decocks it. your pistol would be holstered hot, witch isnt very safe.

But is it a double-action? My KJW P229 doesn't have a safety, just a decocking lever. But it's double action so the first trigger pull is heavy. This is just like the real one.

ACU Kyle October 20th, 2007 18:42

i already bought it (well a parent did) but it was bout 250.00, which is a bit of a deal. (also noticed the KJW USP Compact was 350.00 i wonder why?)

Quote:

Mine will arrive bout Thurs.
i said that above, (just to clear up and don't buy it or buy from here stuff)

ACU Kyle October 20th, 2007 18:47

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Originally Posted by dodger_me (Post 558805)
Also You might want a magwell rubber thingy, A holster can easily bump the mag catch

you mean a Houge grip?:confused:

dodger_me October 20th, 2007 18:53

Where did you buy it from? Also hop on xfire wigger

ACU Kyle October 20th, 2007 19:11

A&A mate i told you.

matt491 October 20th, 2007 19:30

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Originally Posted by ACU Kyle (Post 558896)
A&A mate i told you at school when we were in gym.

How old are you?

ACU Kyle October 20th, 2007 19:43

disregard that statement.

Greylocks October 20th, 2007 19:51

There is nothing illegal about your Parents buying an airsoft gun. But I hope they know what their responsibilities then are...

You, being likely under 18, cant keep it. You cant use it when they are not supervising you directly. It has to be locked away from your reach when not in use or not supervised. You cant play with that just anywhere you please.

Some of this varies from Province to Province, and within most city limits, but that's about it.

PS, thanks for skating around the rules the people here try really hard to respect.

matt491 October 20th, 2007 19:51

I'll take that as a "I'm not 18". I'll inform you now, because clearly you have chosen to either not read the threads on airsoft laws or read them and completely disregarded them, it is ILLEGAL for you to own an airsoft gun until you are 18. PERIOD! I know I know, your parents bought it for you, blah blah, but unless they are with you 100% of the time you are using it, they can get in a LOT of shit for providing you with a replica firearm. Respect the sport. Respect the laws.

ACU Kyle October 20th, 2007 20:15

CLOSED, DUE TO FLAMEING

Styrak October 20th, 2007 20:36

You're not a mod, I don't see how you could close it.

dodger_me October 20th, 2007 20:41

matt just so you know kyle has been playing for like, what is it now 4 years? Also its not illegal for them to buy it as long as his parents lock it up when he is not at a field and they give him parental consent.

attack-beaver October 20th, 2007 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergeantmajor (Post 558718)
my dad has a USP and when its cocked and you put it on safe, it decocks it. your pistol would be holstered hot, witch isnt very safe.

what model? when i put the safety on my USP it stays cocked, when you push down past fire it decocks the gun.

matt491 October 20th, 2007 21:20

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Originally Posted by dodger_me (Post 558942)
matt just so you know kyle has been playing for like, what is it now 4 years? Also its not illegal for them to buy it as long as his parents lock it up when he is not at a field and they give him parental consent.

Great so he's been playing underage for 4 years? That's like saying, "it's okay that he deals drugs, he's been doing it for 4 years, he knows what he's doing". If you're under 18, you SHOULD NOT be playing airsoft. The reason airsoft is so expensive and hard to get and play in Canada is because of the kids who have tried to acquire the guns and play before they're 18. I'm firmly against it.

matt491 October 20th, 2007 21:22

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Originally Posted by ACU Kyle (Post 558929)
CLOSED, DUE TO FLAMEING

There was no flaming, just us informing you of THE LAWS!

kalnaren October 20th, 2007 21:37

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Originally Posted by ACU Kyle (Post 558929)
CLOSED, DUE TO FLAMEING

If anything, it would be closed for your excessive stupidity.

Oops, sorry, that was flaming. It won't happen again lest this thread be closed.

dodger_me October 20th, 2007 21:40

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Originally Posted by matt491 (Post 558972)
Great so he's been playing underage for 4 years? That's like saying, "it's okay that he deals drugs, he's been doing it for 4 years, he knows what he's doing". If you're under 18, you SHOULD NOT be playing airsoft. The reason airsoft is so expensive and hard to get and play in Canada is because of the kids who have tried to acquire the guns and play before they're 18. I'm firmly against it.

actually thats not why but you keep pretending you know everything about Canadian airsoft

attack-beaver October 20th, 2007 21:45

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Originally Posted by dodger_me (Post 558990)
actually thats not why but you keep pretending you know everything about Canadian airsoft

actually he knows whats hes talking about hes been playing longer then you have. and hes also right.

skalnok October 20th, 2007 22:30

strangely i have to side with matt on this one .. wait its not strange at all

Lakonian October 20th, 2007 22:35

USPs (airsoft) cannot be carried cocked/locked. I have no idea why, but they can't.

In regards to the real steel, I don't really know. But I do NOT believe it decocks when put into "safe".

Also, SargeantMajor, 1911s were designed to be carried with one in the breech, and safety engaged, and they're very safe.

White_knight October 20th, 2007 23:41

my KSC USP can be carried cocked/locked, both full and half cock on safe

Lakonian October 20th, 2007 23:44

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Originally Posted by White_knight (Post 559043)
my KSC USP can be carried cocked/locked, both full and half cock on safe

Yeah, but apply some pressure on your trigger, and BOOM, she goes off . Not very safe , IMO :p

White_knight October 20th, 2007 23:55

yes but its not that the USP can't be carried like that, its that it shouldn't. sides, think of this, mid air cartwheel with an AD right at the opfor...think of the style points on that ;)

ACU Kyle October 21st, 2007 00:04

Matt i say closed because it means stop being rude. and thanks Connor.

Firas October 21st, 2007 00:18

thats a good way to be taken seriously....

ACU Kyle October 21st, 2007 00:25

Can a mod please shut this down, its turned into well.... garbage.

matt491 October 21st, 2007 01:34

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Originally Posted by ACU Kyle (Post 559062)
Can a mod please shut this down, its turned into well.... garbage.

You have no idea the can of worms you've opened, kid. I was into airsoft before I was 18, but I didn't buy guns or get my parents to buy them. I attended games (but didn't play) and learned and read online, and most importantly, I learned RESPECT for my fellow airsofters and especially the older ones who know more and have been playing a hell of a lot longer than me. If you don't learn respect for the people on these forums, you will get shut down REAL fast. Learn you place, and learn it fast. That goes for your buddy "connor" there too.

Lakonian October 21st, 2007 01:40

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Originally Posted by matt491 (Post 559095)
You have no idea the can of worms you've opened, kid. I was into airsoft before I was 18, but I didn't buy guns or get my parents to buy them. I attended games (but didn't play) and learned and read online, and most importantly, I learned RESPECT for my fellow airsofters and especially the older ones who know more and have been playing a hell of a lot longer than me. If you don't learn respect for the people on these forums, you will get shut down REAL fast. Learn you place, and learn it fast. That goes for your buddy "connor" there too.

+1

skalnok October 21st, 2007 02:25

Quote:

Quote:

You have no idea the can of worms you've opened, kid. I was into airsoft before I was 18, but I didn't buy guns or get my parents to buy them. I attended games (but didn't play) and learned and read online, and most importantly, I learned RESPECT for my fellow airsofters and especially the older ones who know more and have been playing a hell of a lot longer than me. If you don't learn respect for the people on these forums, you will get shut down REAL fast. Learn you place, and learn it fast. That goes for your buddy "connor" there too.
+1
you should really listen to this matt491 fellow he seems to know what hes talking about


i mean like really dont you see all of the other people being flamed for posting things just like you did.... shouldnt that say something along the lines of "dont brag about avoiding legalities" or something like that

Quote:

Can a mod please shut this down, its turned into well.... garbage.
it kinda started with a foul scent

ACU Kyle October 21st, 2007 13:32

tisk tisk... last time i checked ive played longer then you i know more about the rules then anything other.....

attack-beaver October 21st, 2007 14:09

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Originally Posted by ACU Kyle (Post 559324)
tisk tisk... last time i checked ive played longer then you i know more about the rules then anything other.....

rules and politics of airsoft are to very different things. and if you knew the rules so well you wouldn't even being playing or owning a gun, so simple you dont know the rules.

White_knight October 21st, 2007 14:24

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Originally Posted by ACU Kyle (Post 559324)
tisk tisk... last time i checked ive played longer then you i know more about the rules then anything other.....

well the last time i checked how long you've been playing has no effect in regards to the law. face it. exactly what field is letting you play, considering you said you have been playing for a while, and if you are still underage then when did you start 15?. i hope you weren't playing in the woods.

dodger_me October 21st, 2007 15:59

Well considering Larry at trek lets us play. Nelspot Let me play at north 40...

ACU Kyle October 21st, 2007 18:20

why is this continuing, my god people love to bitch around these parts.

Styrak October 21st, 2007 18:25

Welcome to ASC!

Greylocks October 21st, 2007 21:32

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Originally Posted by ACU Kyle (Post 559324)
tisk tisk... last time i checked ive played longer then you i know more about the rules then anything other.....

And several guys, like me, have been handling real guns of all kinds since before you were born. We've told you the same thing, so what IS your point, exactly?

Greylocks October 21st, 2007 21:36

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Originally Posted by dodger_me (Post 559386)
Well considering Larry at trek lets us play. Nelspot Let me play at north 40...

If he's willing to take on the legalities involved, that's his choice. Is he insured? Does he require the parents to be present? If he only depends on a waiver... what the heck, read about the legal value of waivers when a teenager and Replicas are involved. Maybe you will understand. I think our own Lawdog made it crystal clear.

Oh... sorry, that requires research.

Lakonian October 21st, 2007 21:43

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Originally Posted by ACU Kyle (Post 559324)
tisk tisk... last time i checked ive played longer then you i know more about the rules then anything other.....

This statement is funny.

You knew the rules, just chose to piss on 'em? Cool beans.

Grave110 October 21st, 2007 21:51

god damn kids thats all i have to say

Lakonian October 21st, 2007 21:52

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Originally Posted by Grave110 (Post 559603)
god damn kids thats all i have to say

Holy fuck Mat, change your damn sig before you get an infraction!

Grave110 October 21st, 2007 22:06

thuxs for the warning just change it but still fuckin kids lmfao

Goodl2ussian October 21st, 2007 22:40

holy crap i honestly do not know how this kid does not get the point...he's changed his ID 3 times on our local forum and now he comes on here. =\ He's just a spoiled lil brat who can't get it through his head that he cannot play yet. Larry letting you play doesn't mean that you can or should be for that matter.

Grave110 October 21st, 2007 22:59

i take it you know this kid

matt491 October 21st, 2007 23:04

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Originally Posted by Grave110 (Post 559660)
i take it you know this kid

Now we all do. His friend too. Good, maybe you can fill us in on how old he is? My curiosity is really starting to get the better of me, besides, there's some bets going around. I've got ten bucks on 15. Commmmeeee on lucky 15! =P

White_knight October 21st, 2007 23:06

money on 16

and hes got more guns then me :(

Lakonian October 21st, 2007 23:07

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Originally Posted by White_knight (Post 559670)
money on 16

and hes got more guns then me :(

Money on 15.

He's got more guns than me, too!

Well, almost...

White_knight October 21st, 2007 23:16

well if hes 15 and starts mouthing off that hes been playing longer then people so hes knows better then hes either got big balls or a small brain, oh wait hes 15, guess we know what the answer to that is

matt491 October 21st, 2007 23:19

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Originally Posted by White_knight (Post 559670)
money on 16

and hes got more guns then me :(

Me too right now, that's IF he actually has all those. But you know what,

I BOUGHT ALL MY OWN GUNS WITH MY OWN HARD EARNED MONEY! mommy and daddy didn't buy me jack

Goodl2ussian October 21st, 2007 23:21

^^ Lol he's got neither! I believe he's ..13? 14 now maybe? And honestly I have no idea why his parents are buying all this crap for him...

Lakonian October 21st, 2007 23:23

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Originally Posted by matt491 (Post 559687)

I BOUGHT ALL MY OWN GUNS WITH MY OWN HARD EARNED MONEY!

Exactly.

I would NOT feel right knowing I didn't pay for a piece with my OWN money.

White_knight October 21st, 2007 23:23

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Originally Posted by matt491 (Post 559687)
I BOUGHT ALL MY OWN GUNS WITH MY OWN HARD EARNED MONEY! mommy and daddy didn't buy me jack

quoted for truth :)

funny thing is he "closed" this due to flaming. we haven't even flamed him that bad. maybe he should take note from jesseeast on the superior PWNZORship that ASC can dish out.

matt491 October 21st, 2007 23:25

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Originally Posted by Goodl2ussian (Post 559690)
^^ Lol he's got neither! I believe he's ..13? 14 now maybe? And honestly I have no idea why his parents are buying all this crap for him...

Damn it, off by maybe a year. I should have known based on his, "I thought I told you about it in gym class" comment on the second page =P

White_knight October 21st, 2007 23:30

dear god 13 - 14 and hes been playing "longer then some people" who the hell would let a 13 year old play in any established field. i smell backwoods airsoft.

matt491 October 21st, 2007 23:35

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Originally Posted by White_knight (Post 559708)
dear god 13 - 14 and hes been playing "longer then some people" who the hell would let a 13 year old play in any established field. i smell backwoods airsoft.

He claimed he'd been playing for 4 years already, that makes him ten? I'm white, but even I can say this regarding this topic,

say WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!

White_knight October 21st, 2007 23:43

hell i just reread the thread and got that too, i mean my god TEN! age verifiers take note. maybe a pm to a&a to cut off supply is in order:rolleyes:

matt491 October 21st, 2007 23:45

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Originally Posted by White_knight (Post 559724)
hell i just reread the thread and got that too, i mean my god TEN! age verifiers take note. maybe a pm to a&a to cut off supply is in order:rolleyes:

What parents buy their kid replica guns when he's ten!? Hell, when he's 13 or 14!!!

attack-beaver October 22nd, 2007 00:06

hes been in shit on the JOC a few times, he does NOT play at any JOC games.

dodger_me October 22nd, 2007 00:13

Beaver in all fairness I have only been in shit like once. Not to mention there is quite a few players who enjoy my presence at games.

Goodl2ussian October 22nd, 2007 00:26

i imagine you can name all those members on one hand

matt491 October 22nd, 2007 00:30

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Originally Posted by dodger_me (Post 559752)
Not to mention there is quite a few players who enjoy my presence at games.

I'm pretty sure it's just his buddy Kyle.

Goodl2ussian October 22nd, 2007 00:39

then theres those who dont enjoy his presence. like im not tryin to be a complete and utter douche but damn guys....stick to YuGiOh or whatever ye kids are into these days

dodger_me October 22nd, 2007 00:41

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Originally Posted by Goodl2ussian (Post 559757)
then theres those who dont enjoy his presence. like im not tryin to be a complete and utter douche but damn guys....stick to YuGiOh or whatever ye kids are into these days

Your right, there are people who strait up dont like me, but then again those guys havent met me in person before. I cant think of anyone who i have played with before that has had a problem with me.

matt491 October 22nd, 2007 00:43

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Originally Posted by dodger_me (Post 559758)
Your right, there are people who strait up dont like me, but then again those guys havent met me in person before. I cant think of anyone who i have played with before that has had a problem with me.

I can't think of a single person on this entire website other than your buddy Kyle and other underaged noobs who WOULDN'T have a problem with the both of you! You're both underaged and trying to play airsoft. Not gonna fly, period.

SuperCkicken October 22nd, 2007 00:58

last time i checked there are still several locations that accept "underage" players, but of course i presuming you mean younger than 18 for underage.

so what if these players have their parents purchase them these guns, it just means that their parents know what they are up to and hopfully are supervising them when they are using them.

matt491 October 22nd, 2007 01:05

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Originally Posted by SuperCkicken (Post 559765)
last time i checked there are still several locations that accept "underage" players, but of course i presuming you mean younger than 18 for underage.

so what if these players have their parents purchase them these guns, it just means that their parents know what they are up to and hopfully are supervising them when they are using them.

"Oh, it's okay officer, we were watching them" doesn't cut it when the cops get called out on reports of kids with guns.

dodger_me October 22nd, 2007 01:09

I'm pretty sure the cops would clue in when we are at a field that says AIRSOFT-PAINTBALL-LASERTAG All over it and we are all inside. Not to mention thats the purpose of a wargames license. Also i have NEVER (Ya NEVER, No bs) Played airsoft/crapsoft anywhere other then a designated field.

SuperCkicken October 22nd, 2007 01:09

haha well thats my point, its more likly the parents will be supervising them if they purchased the gun, and with the parents being present, would that not allow them to play on some fields, and not make it illegal??

attack-beaver October 22nd, 2007 02:18

dodger i have nothing against you, your not the one making a problem.

i dont want players from all over the country to get the wrong idea about calgary airsoft with under agers pulling this.

dodger_me October 22nd, 2007 02:38

ya no problem man

Lakonian October 22nd, 2007 02:59

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Originally Posted by attack-beaver (Post 559810)
dodger i have nothing against you, your not the one making a problem.

i dont want players from all over the country to get the wrong idea about calgary airsoft with under agers pulling this.

Yeah, from what I hear Alberta is pretty rife with UAs :p

matt491 October 22nd, 2007 08:24

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Originally Posted by SuperCkicken (Post 559771)
haha well thats my point, its more likly the parents will be supervising them if they purchased the gun, and with the parents being present, would that not allow them to play on some fields, and not make it illegal??

I HIGHLY doubt in this situation that the parents are present at these events.

airborne1 October 23rd, 2007 02:13

I am in contact with Dodgers father every time we have a game. He is very respectful and shows more gun safety and sportsmanship than alot of older players I have met. Kyle I will deal with you later.

ACU Kyle October 23rd, 2007 23:04

WILL SOMEONE CLOSE THIS! ITS GETTING REPETITIVE.

dodger_me October 23rd, 2007 23:27

Your the one that revived it even more...

Scooby Steve October 23rd, 2007 23:29

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Originally Posted by ACU Kyle (Post 561047)
WILL SOMEONE CLOSE THIS! ITS GETTING REPETITIVE.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...rustration.jpg

dodger_me October 23rd, 2007 23:31

Do i need to post the giraffe stuck in the quicksand, the rules of that movie can be applied to like ANYTHING


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