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ancorp December 25th, 2007 15:18

My almost complete Avtomat Kalashnikov Modernized (AKM) (NO56K)
 
I thought this update was worth a new thread. Thanks to all those that followed along in the last one: RIGHT HERE

Did some major updates to the AKM, both in terms of parts, and finishing.

Here's the things updated:

External parts:
-Element steel ribbed top (also have an ICS top which is more well made, but ended up darker, and thus less matching, still haven't decided which one I'll slap on it in the end)
-Element black pistol grip instead of the KA one (the Element is more realistic with it's glossy finish and it being more rounded, and comfortable too)
-King Arms metal front end set (the newer one with the AK-74 conversion parts)
-King Arms AK-74/AKM steel safety lever.
-ICS Bolt for a nice large recoil spring, heavy bolt carrier, more bolt travel, and to get rid of that stupid flimsy plastic TM battery tray, which I broke in several places. Wasn't hard to install either. Give a very nice clack. Thank you Dicey for bringing one in for me.

External work:
-Got rid of the disgusting flat black paint (and the gloss black paint, which ended up being even worse), in fact I'm done with paint altogether.
-Used firearm cold bluing solution to blue pretty much... everything. I can write a huge post about how that went and what I learned, but that would take a long time, maybe sometime later if anyone is curious. Still don't know why the KA "steel" safety lever didn't take blue properly.
-Reshaped the lower handguard to AKM shape (shortened and rounded)
Gave the wood 4 stains of stain, but since it's soft wood, it needed a sealant solution first, which I didn't use, thus it's a little spotty, especially on the stock.
-Gave the wood a coat of clearcoat. Said - "Quick Drying 4-6 hours". 32 hours later, and it was still kinda sticky. I guess I put on too thick of a coat. Said screw it, installed the wood, and played around with it. It lost some of it's gloss and blackened in some areas due to it not drying completely. Oh well.
-The bluing and the wood work didn't go perfect, thus the gun does look "used" in some areas. Wasn't my intention, but so much for letting it earn it's own wear from the start. Will still get it's share of action and wear soon enough.

Internal upgrades:
Element M115 spring
Element V3 bearing spring guide
Area1000 metal bushings
Chronied it at 390fps with .2gs

Things still needing to be done:
-Need to fill the holes on the gas pipe with JBweld for the AKM look
-Do some cutting/filing and such on the gas port.
-Cut up the front sight, shorten it and JBweld it back together for the AKM look. I'm awaiting to hear results from a fellow ASC member who is also building an AKM, who will test bluing on his JBwelded parts.
-Dye the pistol grip to a brown/orangish bakelite color.
-Dye or somehow finish the bakelite mags to a reddish/orange bakelite color.
-Someday I might redo the wood and the bluing. Someday. Not in the near future.
-Buy steel drum mag :P

You will see pictures later down of it's lil cousin that is still getting built. It will be an AKM/AK pistol. So far it's a Kraken AK (thank you Amos for buying and shipping one to me) with an Element stamped style AKM/AK-74 metal body, ICS ribbed steel top cover, KA pistolgrip, RPK plywood foregrips, and a TM thread protector. What I plan to do to that one is replace the gas pipe/port and front sight with a TM Spetz front sight, and chop the barrel to fit, so it will end right after the handguards. Also need to get an AKM slanted brake for it, restain the wood, get a metal front set, and rewire it to the top. Maybe someday mod one of those new KA AKMS folding stocks onto the body. The bluing turned out rusty/uneven. Oh well once again. Someday - redo. For now it will be fine.

Alright, on with the show!!

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Yes, I also got walnut grips for my M9 :D


That's it for now, thanks for lookin'!
Cheers,
Alex

Daiviet December 25th, 2007 15:28

its....so....beautiful...

FOX_111 December 25th, 2007 15:54

I like the finish.
Good job.

Goodl2ussian December 25th, 2007 15:58

that thing is absolutely amazing. I dont know what else to say....

besides I WANT!

Kokanee December 25th, 2007 15:59

Woah! I really really like that recoil spring in the bolt assembly.

hattrick December 25th, 2007 16:28

I like those m9 grips

ancorp December 25th, 2007 16:28

Thanks gents.

And yes, that ICS bolt set is so worth the money.

And so are the Beretta grips. I might post up some pics of it later.

ancorp December 25th, 2007 16:50

Thank you Yuxi, this thing sure went far from the flat black and glossy toyish wood AK didn't it :P

Any tips?

Cheers,
Alex

Beazer December 25th, 2007 16:56

Love it man.
Now, you'll need to post up how you did the metal parts in that cold blue solution.

Disco_Dante December 25th, 2007 17:24

Its a sex machine

Amos December 25th, 2007 17:27

Awesome :D Glad that kraken worked out for ya.

Andres December 25th, 2007 17:37

Extremely nice AK, Ancorp.

ancorp December 25th, 2007 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yuxi (Post 602140)
Wow, so this was a kraken? I'd say Ancorp has the 'Midas touch' turning the ordinarly into the extraordinary. Good photography as well I must say.

Hah, nope, the Kraken is for the stockless AK, the AKM is TM based. BUT, that wouldn't matter, seeing how most parts were replaced anyway. The only TM parts left are - inner/outer barrel, hopup, sights, stock trunnion, mag catch piece, and gas pipe piece. Could just as easily be made out of a Kraken.

Hell, even the second Kraken based AK has a lot of external parts gone (I have a clear/OD AK shell sitting here, almost externally complete).

I sold/traded most of my stock TM parts to get more money for parts and materials.

This was/is a great winter project, learned a lot about working with wood, paint stripper, sanding/filing, bluing, etc. The AK went from plastic toy, to metal toy, to a lovely replica. This was damn interesting, and I'm happy with the results. Still will keep working on it though.

The whole bluing thing was a blur, but I pretty much followed the instructions on the package. But with lots of surprises on the way, and mixed results depending on alloy/part. I had to redo the bluing on the body 3 times (on the AKM). The first attempt was horrid. The thing bubbled up and turned to rust, most of the finish fell off with a simple swipe of steel wool (as the last step of the instructions to remove any discoloration and abrasion)

Thanks for all the comments guys! Appreciate the feedback. Can't wait to field it. Now, who here will ship me a C clip for my hopup? :D
Cheers,
Alex

Murddroce December 25th, 2007 19:32

wow that is a beautiful gun...just wow

Coma December 25th, 2007 19:33

Ancorp, that is beautiful. There isn't much more to say without sounding like a fanboy.

MrEvolution December 25th, 2007 19:36

Holy. Poop. On. A. Stick.
That thing looks amazing.

Neuromancer December 25th, 2007 19:45

just two words: Great work!

it allmost looks to me like the RS version (which i had in my hands, years back as i was in kosovo)

really really good work

ancorp December 25th, 2007 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coma (Post 602178)
Ancorp, that is beautiful. There isn't much more to say without sounding like a fanboy.

I was wondering when you'd chime in, Simon. Perhaps you'd get to see it on the field someday. Muzzle facing you, hah!

Thanks all. I never though I'd get such great feedback. On Christmas day nonetheless :D

I'm glad I worked on this instead of splurging on an out of the box AKM. Makes me enjoy it that much more, with the amount of work and time I put into this.

ProbeJax December 25th, 2007 19:56

Damn, that thing looks like I could use it as a baseball bat, looks solid as hell.

*ATF*Aurora December 25th, 2007 21:25

Fantastic work.

xandrewx December 25th, 2007 22:31

very very nice, not an AK man my self but it looks very very good sir

Cushak December 25th, 2007 22:38

Of the guns I've seen on this site, this is definitely one of, if not the, top one for realistic appearance. Please do that write-up on blueing steel! lol

ancorp December 25th, 2007 22:43

Thanks again everyone. It's suddenly for sale - $12000 OBO (no lowballs). Hah I'd never sell it. It's the one "permanent" airsoft gun I have.

Bluing steel ain't the point of this, most of the AK is aluminum alloy, which is not meant to be blued.

I'll see if I can do a simple list of things I learned and whatever tips I can give from my experience. Hell I might do it right now.

Forever_kaos December 25th, 2007 22:48

Great looking and great work!

Maybe when I decide to upgrade my AK I could get a hand from an expert like you? :)

ancorp December 25th, 2007 23:13

What I did to blue my AK:

After experimenting with Krylon flat, then Krylon gloss, and then doing lots of research of different paints/methods, including anodizing, but never getting to anything. I hate paint. The drytime is too long, and I kept getting poor, uneven, ugly results. Still have 4 cans of Krylon and several cans of other brands of spray paint in the garage.

Thus - I decided to look into actual firearm blue. Thing is - its supposed to only work on steel, creating a perfect rust layer that blackens the metal.

So - off to Canadian tire - $14.99 for a Gunslick bluing kit that came with a 60ml bottle of blue, and of metal cleaner, as well as steel wool, sponge, and instructions. You may end up needing more blue as you experiment - $4.99 for extra bottles, also at CT. Metal cleaner should last a long time though.

I started with the steel top cover, which blued fine. Just as per instructions, pretty much:
Metal must be bare (sand paper or steel wool to remove any finish, I also polished some of the larger AK parts, like the top cover, body, and bolt).
Use the metal cleaner and half the sponge to clean the metal, and then rinse and dry. Rinsing with hot water may help (i.e heating up the metal) and then drying quickly before it cools, then slapping on the blue.
Thus, once its dry - use the second half of the sponge to apply blue, its a clear light blue tinted liquid, and once it hits the steel it suddenly just blackens, very interesting. Apply it everywhere you need to, try to make it even if possible.
Let it sit for 2-3 minutes, then rince with hot water. Once dry again, take the steel wool and lightly brush off odd colors (usually purplish or whatnot) to reveal a nice coat of blue. Recoat by following all the steps, starting with metal cleaner.

BUT for aluminum I found some exceptions that helped (take some with a grain of salt, mileage may, and will wary.)

Some alloys - the bluing will react just like steel, fizz up with tiny bubbles, and sometimes let off steam. NOT good on aluminum, it will leave a layer of residue that won't be easy to remove, and will come off with the bluing underneath. I found that on metals that react this way (besides steel), it's best to keep spreading the blue that's already on it during the 2-3 minutes that it has to sit, not letting it fizz up. Often that fizzing will also result in rust. But the metals that react will keep the finish stronger. Especially after a day or so. Really strong finish on my metal body, even though it's not steel.

Sometimes the material won't take bluing very strong, and won't fizz at all (like my TM front sight/gas port/etc). It's easier to blue, you just do it as steel - put it on and let it sit. It will work, but it will come off easily when you do the steel wool part. Same with rusted areas. Hell sometimes you do the bluing, and do the steel wool, and almost all of it comes off, it happens.

It's a frustrating process, but is worth it if you succeed. A nice strong, but very thin finish, thus it doesn't look like someone dipped it in paint, like some Krylon paintjobs, it looks like a real finish. It's grayish when just looking at it, but reflects with a blue tint, as it should.

Seriously though, I don't have proper guidelines, so it's up to you if you think you're up to the experimenting. I found it so damn worth it. Even if I did go through 5 bottles of blue in the end :P

I'd take pictures of the process, but I'd need someone to take the pics with me.

I'm sure I missed something here that I know, ask away and I'll see what I can remember. I started this bluing thing at least a month ago or so.

Hope this helps someone, and I hope anyone that attempts it posts results, or at least PM's me to tell me how it went. I don't think it was done before with airsoft (except that one guy that put blue on a plastic Beretta slide :rolleyes: What was he thinking...)

Cheers!
Alex

P.S - Forever_Kaos - PM me when you're working on it, I love discussing AK projects over PMs or MSN. Find it more interesting then talking about slapping this RIS on this M4, or that crane stock on that M16. :P

Cassius December 26th, 2007 00:10

Amazing! I'm so glad I've started an AK project :D
I like the fact that you are giving it a nice attention to all of the details. It's the details that make it a perfect piece and you've got that perfectly.
Can you let me know how to get that hot ICS bolt??

Thanks mate.

ancorp December 26th, 2007 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius (Post 602255)
Amazing! I'm so glad I've started an AK project :D
I like the fact that you are giving it a nice attention to all of the details. It's the details that make it a perfect piece and you've got that perfectly.
Can you let me know how to get that hot ICS bolt??

Thanks mate.

Yessir, you know it. Still some small details to be done, will be done soon enough, although the big picture is definitely there now. The ICS bolt - got it through Dicey as it says in the first post, through a small group order.

Best of luck on your AK project. Take your time and do it right.

Cassius December 26th, 2007 00:29

Ancorp, can you PM me the details on where to order that hot thing?

I'm taking my time as well; I'm doing like 4 projects at the same time so money is managing my time. :P My wood kit just hit Canada on dec 23rd so I should be expecting that around new year! :D

Griffin December 26th, 2007 00:30

Excellent work! seeing that gun brings back memories of my younger days and the model Ak47 I owned. I truly miss being able to purchase those functional model guns, they were always a treat to assemble.

ancorp December 26th, 2007 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius (Post 602264)
Ancorp, can you PM me the details on where to order that hot thing?

I'm taking my time as well; I'm doing like 4 projects at the same time so money is managing my time. :P My wood kit just hit Canada on dec 23rd so I should be expecting that around new year! :D

PM the guy I got it from mate. I mentioned his name twice now :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin (Post 602266)
Excellent work! seeing that gun brings back memories of my younger days and the model Ak47 I owned. I truly miss being able to purchase those functional model guns, they were always a treat to assemble.

You had a Hudson AK-47 PFC gun? Lucky bastard, what happened to it?

Cassius December 26th, 2007 00:39

Yeah I feel dumb. I'm drunk, it's Christmas....




I'll pm the dude...

Relja December 26th, 2007 00:44

*drools*

Griffin December 26th, 2007 00:46

I had that gun when I was about 14 or 15 and well, it was meant to be built and mounted on a wall. Me I played with it a little too much and eventually, no amount of glue could keep it together. I also had a Colt .45, a Colt Python with 6inch barrel, and a M16 with the M203 attached to it. The latter guns well I just threw away one day which I truly regret.

ancorp December 26th, 2007 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin (Post 602281)
I had that gun when I was about 14 or 15 and well, it was meant to be built and mounted on a wall. Me I played with it a little too much and eventually, no amount of glue could keep it together. I also had a Colt .45, a Colt Python with 6inch barrel, and a M16 with the M203 attached to it. The latter guns well I just threw away one day which I truly regret.

Wow what a waste... although throwing away an M16 is understandable, and forgivable :D

How long ago was this?

Griffin December 26th, 2007 00:54

COUGH21YEARSCOUGH!

Relja December 26th, 2007 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 602283)
Wow what a waste... although throwing away an M16 is understandable, and forgivable :D

How long ago was this?

Good call about throwing the m16 away, get a c7 at least man. Or better yet a good old ak. Promise you it wont jam :D.

P.S. Anyone play America's army??? If they do go to the training ground for marksmanship test and put your gun to burst and 9/10 it will jam in the second clip.

ancorp December 26th, 2007 01:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relja (Post 602287)
Good call about throwing the m16 away, get a c7 at least man. Or better yet a good old ak. Promise you it wont jam :D.

P.S. Anyone play America's army??? If they do go to the training ground for marksmanship test and put your gun to burst and 9/10 it will jam in the second clip.

Well that was a pretty random post. I hate Americas army (the game), keep it outta my thread.

Relja December 26th, 2007 01:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 602288)
Well that was a pretty random post. I hate Americas army (the game), keep it outta my thread.

I dislike that game as well, although i found the marksmanship course a bit funny due to the gun jamming. But again that akm is something beyond special most beautiful ak in awhile. Hopefully my m70 will give it a run for its money :D. After you finish with the ak pistol any ideas on a new project?

Episkopo December 26th, 2007 01:57

I...am in love.

Lakonian December 26th, 2007 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relja (Post 602287)
Good call about throwing the m16 away, get a c7 at least man. Or better yet a good old ak. Promise you it wont jam :D.

P.S. Anyone play America's army??? If they do go to the training ground for marksmanship test and put your gun to burst and 9/10 it will jam in the second clip.

Sorry to crap on your thread Ancorp, but WTF?

Relja, are you honestly judging a firearm based on it's reliability in a VIDEO GAME? .. Cause, that makes you look real mall-ninja-ish...

Also, let me know when you fire a real AR. :rolleyes:

Moderate December 26th, 2007 10:13

Wow.




Wow.





Wow.




Wa wa wee wa. I love that AKM Ancorp! Excellent job ;)

Skruface December 26th, 2007 10:35

Nice work. May I ask where/how/how much you acquired the Element recievers?

Shirley December 26th, 2007 11:05

Woah, nice wood kits!

Coma December 26th, 2007 11:15

Hey, I just had a thought. Have you tried tracking down the front sight from the CYMA AKM, Ancorp? That way you'd not have to cut yours up or try and track down an Inokatsu or Guarder one. Besides that, there was a nice springer AKM floating about that you might be able to find parts off of.

Idea: Contact an airsofter in Japan or something who is willing to stop into a shop and see if they can get just the one part ordered.

Cassius December 26th, 2007 11:18

Thanks Ancorp, I PMed the dude and I'm in queue for that bolt :D

I'll probably PM you once I receive it so you can help me out in installing it :-P

ancorp December 26th, 2007 12:23

Holy crap, lots of posts. Alright:

Relja,
Probably won't be another project after the pistol for a while, but if anything, an RPK perhaps :D I just ordered a stamped steel RPK drum for my AKM last night from RSOV, will post pics when it's here.

Kos,
I see you don't care much for my AKM since it's lost it's tactical flat black paint and scope rail :rolleyes:

Skruface,
I shall PM you with the details.

Coma,
Yes I have considered that for a while, I'd need the gas pipe set too, as to make it an AKM, you have to do more then just fill in the holes. Hell I'd take the outer barrel too, and the rear sight. Maybe someday some retailer will help me out. As for the springer, if we're thinking of the same one - it looks nice but it's 100% plastic, so that's a no go.

Cassius,
Alright, it's not complicated at all. BUT keep in mind it's no good for an AKS as the battery sits up there due to the folding stock. Which is why my upcoming AK pistol won't have an ICS bolt, even though I could get/install one.

To everyone else - thank you for the complements.

Any more questions, ask away.

Cheers!
Alex

Cassius December 26th, 2007 12:33

Thanks mate, it's an AK-47 Type 2A with a 74 flash hider. Battery sits in the stock so it's all good :D

ancorp December 26th, 2007 12:41

You built a Type 2A AK? Very impressive, although I highly, highly doubt that. I bet it's just the usual TM lookalike - Type 3.

rockafella December 26th, 2007 15:02

Bautiful AK man!!! Wow that looks so good!!! ...drool!!!!... where can I get tha set of wood grips like those? And the bluing solution? you've really raised the bar un us man! good job

ancorp December 26th, 2007 15:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockafella (Post 602435)
Bautiful AK man!!! Wow that looks so good!!! ...drool!!!!... where can I get tha set of wood grips like those? And the bluing solution? you've really raised the bar un us man! good job

Thanks mate. As I mentioned earlier, the bluing solution came from Canadian tire, in the hunting section (yes, where the clearcrap soft air is).

The woodkit came from Ebay, but it didn't look like what you see now. Took a lot of sanding, some reshaping, 4 coats of staining, and a thick coat of clear. See the link in the beginning of the first post that will show you what the kit looked like originally.

mike in van December 26th, 2007 15:37

I just ordered the ICs bolt assembly from blazing toys, does it just drop right in to a kraken?
$32.00 not too bad.

ancorp December 26th, 2007 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike in van (Post 602449)
I just ordered the ICs bolt assembly from blazing toys, does it just drop right in to a kraken?
$32.00 not too bad.

No it does not drop into any TM based AK, it requires some modifications.

Very simple, and even easier with a plastic receiver. Simply get rid of the battery tray/cocking handle assembly, remove and sand smooth the little nubs that hold the battery tray down, and wrap tape around both ends of the ICS bolt spring guide.

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums...?topic=31335.0

Blazing toys is sold out of those bolts from what I heard, and they are closed for the holidays.

Cheers,
Alex

mike in van December 26th, 2007 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 602450)
No it does not drop into any TM based AK, it requires some modifications.

Very simple, and even easier with a plastic receiver. Simply get rid of the battery tray/cocking handle assembly, remove and sand smooth the little nubs that hold the battery tray down, and wrap tape around both ends of the ICS bolt spring guide.

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums...?topic=31335.0

Blazing toys is sold out of those bolts from what I heard, and they are closed for the holidays.

Cheers,
Alex

I ordered online a few hours ago, my order went through.
So pretty much I only have to remove the forward notches on both sides of the receiver and shim up the spring with tape?

ancorp December 26th, 2007 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike in van (Post 602469)
I ordered online a few hours ago, my order went through.
So pretty much I only have to remove the forward notches on both sides of the receiver and shim up the spring with tape?

Yeah my last order went through too, and then they emailed back later on saying it's sold out.

Yep - all notches except the last ones towards the stock. And no, not the spring, but the screw on ends on the spring guide. Otherwise it's way too loose.

lonza hungary December 29th, 2007 05:37

very nice gun...awesome.

good work

ColtFarmer December 29th, 2007 13:15

nice job alex, my only suggestion would be to scuff up the pistol grip so it matches the level of wear on the rest of the gun, cause seriously... it's gonna take 10 years for it to accumulate from you playing ;p

ancorp December 29th, 2007 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColtFarmer (Post 603982)
nice job alex, my only suggestion would be to scuff up the pistol grip so it matches the level of wear on the rest of the gun, cause seriously... it's gonna take 10 years for it to accumulate from you playing ;p

Haha, we'll see. I haven't done the pistol grip yet, I need to dye it. If only I could find an appropriate container to use the dye in. Considering the amount of random crap I have at home, I'm surprised I don't have a container I can ruin with dye.

Can't wait to get that RPK steel drum.

ColtFarmer December 29th, 2007 14:41

coffee can dude

ancorp December 29th, 2007 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColtFarmer (Post 604015)
coffee can dude

Wanna ship me one at your cost?

Amos December 29th, 2007 15:01

Icecream pale...

Empty garbage can...

Ziplock bag?

ancorp December 29th, 2007 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos (Post 604031)
Icecream pale...

Empty garbage can...

Ziplock bag?

You'd boil water on your stove in things like that? I wonder how long it takes to remove a melted garbage bag...

ColtFarmer December 29th, 2007 17:14

go buy some coffee, emtpy the can and ship the coffee to me, I will trade you a spetz front sight assembly =p

ancorp December 29th, 2007 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColtFarmer (Post 604071)
go buy some coffee, emtpy the can and ship the coffee to me, I will trade you a spetz front sight assembly =p

Orly? PM me with details :P

Lakonian December 29th, 2007 17:53

From AK to Coffee. Niicccceeeee.

ancorp December 29th, 2007 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 604081)
From AK to Coffee. Niicccceeeee.

Stop going off topic.

Ronan December 29th, 2007 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius (Post 602264)
Ancorp, can you PM me the details on where to order that hot thing?

I'm taking my time as well; I'm doing like 4 projects at the same time so my gf is managing my time. :P My wood kit just hit Canada on dec 23rd so I should be expecting that around new year! :D

Fixed.

Very very nice gun Ancorp. How does it perform?

ancorp December 29th, 2007 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 604183)
Fixed.

Very very nice gun Ancorp. How does it perform?

Like shit due to a missing C clip on the hopup. Fires nice and hard, but the accuracy is horrible.

Vivisector December 30th, 2007 01:07

Comrade! This weapon is 99% to the scale of norms!

Beautiful work.

Ronan December 30th, 2007 01:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 604211)
Like shit due to a missing C clip on the hopup. Fires nice and hard, but the accuracy is horrible.

Like a real AK :D Grats on 100% accurate gun :p

Cassius December 30th, 2007 02:33

An AK can be pretty accurate under 300yds.

yanhchan December 30th, 2007 03:53

Awww dude I totally weaksauced I forgot your hop up was screwed, should have hit gunners for an element chamber oh well. Now you'll be forced to go Prowin!

Ronan December 30th, 2007 05:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius (Post 604273)
An AK can be pretty accurate under 300yds.

:rolleyes: ;)

Wilson December 30th, 2007 06:20

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 604317)
:rolleyes: ;)

No, they actually can be. Keep them on semi and you can score some decent groupings.

ancorp December 30th, 2007 07:28

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 604317)
:rolleyes: ;)

WTFGTFO.

Thanks for the comments gents.

As for the Element hopup, I can get a Dboys one, except the shipping would be killer. Thanks for NOT thinking of me Yan :rolleyes:

ancorp January 3rd, 2008 18:15

Small update on the other AK - got a Cyma AKS body with stock in a trade, temporary installed onto the Kraken AK. Also has the AK-47 top cover on it right now, as the AKM styled one didn't fit right (will fix). This body is only temporary till I drill the appropriate holes on the Element stamped style metal body so it can use the folding stock. Also have an ICS safety lever on the way for it, AK-74/AKM style. Might consider using part of the plastic body to allow me to use a wood grip (like it more then a plastic one for this AK, lookswise, but will need to restain/reshape it first, or get another wood grip)

As you can see - I slightly Krinked the barrel, took out the space between the gas port and the front sight. Just temporary till I get the Spets front sight.

Either way, here are the crappy pics that I took in the dark. Makes everything look a lot different then it is in real life.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...DSC02263-1.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...DSC02264-1.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...DSC02262-1.jpg

Cheers,
Alex

Coma January 3rd, 2008 18:24

Looking good. How does the Cyma stock feel? Any up and down or side to side movement? More than a TM?

ancorp January 3rd, 2008 18:39

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Originally Posted by Coma (Post 606904)
Looking good. How does the Cyma stock feel? Any up and down or side to side movement? More than a TM?

To be honest - the stock has ALOT of up and down movement. Will try to fix it when installing onto metal body.

But it looks very nice.

Oh and you were curious about fitting issues on the Element body onto a Cyma - The battery tray wouldn't go on all the way forward, had to sand the nubs a bit on both the tray and the body, but not a big deal. Also - it was missing the two indents for the left and right front of the pistol grip - once again - no biggie, a couple mins with a small file and it's good to go. Otherwise seems to be just fine. Sure beats a plastic AK-47 body.

Cheers,
Alex

Ronan January 3rd, 2008 19:28

Don't we all remember this video? :D :p

ancorp January 3rd, 2008 19:58

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 606942)
Don't we all remember this video? :D :p

Get out of my thread Ronan. And FYI, the accuracy part of the video was complete and utter BS, 100%.

But get out. I don't want this to become a discussion on this.

JoelBrown/ArC January 3rd, 2008 20:30

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 606942)
Don't we all remember this video? :D :p

hate to destroy your thread but, that video only talks about accuracy from a distance and the fact that an ak should be considered a machine gun not a rifle. But in no way is the M4 sweeter then that power!! power is sexy don't forget!

As for the ak's...
Wow man, wow... those are some seriously nice looking guns, looks like you tore it straight from a soldiers hands :P excellent work, some of the best I have seen!

-Joel. :D

Lakonian January 3rd, 2008 21:24

Alex, man... fuck. Any more AK, and you'll have enough to outfit a small army of insurgents.

Think I should give mine some blue... maybe? hmmm...

Oh, and regarding accuracy.. Have any of you guys seen how accurate the modern AKs are? Probably not, otherwise you'd know better, and not say something wankerly.

ancorp January 3rd, 2008 21:36

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Originally Posted by kos (Post 607092)
Alex, man... fuck. Any more AK, and you'll have enough to outfit a small army of insurgents.

Think I should give mine some blue... maybe? hmmm...

Oh, and regarding accuracy.. Have any of you guys seen how accurate the modern AKs are? Probably not, otherwise you'd know better, and not say something wankerly.

Hah, there shall be more AK goodness to come.

Perhaps bluing yours is a good idea. Your receiver is steel, so is the safety lever and top cover... and the ICS bolt as you can see can take bluing not too bad. Up to you.

As for AK accuracy - decent Russian AK-47s were known to achieve as good as 2MOA from what I read a while ago.

JoelBrown/ArC January 4th, 2008 01:50

:o well then there you go!
The More You Know! :P

Ronan January 5th, 2008 20:03

Good job rockafella :D

Any chance of a pic before the work was started? Like a Before & After kinda deal :D

ancorp January 5th, 2008 20:43

Very nice, you outta wear down the edges a bit to match the wear on the barrel. The receiver looks odd due to it lacking the machine marks above the magwell. I like how you blurred out some parts on the AK so some people won't know it's a paintball gun :P

But yes - the plastiwood looks craptastic, you need a wood kit right now. Right. Now.

Otherwise - good work, thanks for sharing the results.

EDIT: Don't ever call my AKM an AK-74 again.

Arthraxis January 7th, 2008 20:39

Hmmm, can you show more pictures of the ICS bolt mounted onto the gun? I found them for sale at blazing toys, but from what I could tell from the tiny picture they have, it doesn't seem to replace the whole tray as it does in your picture, did you put something else under it? It wasn't clear from your pic either.

ancorp January 7th, 2008 21:13

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Originally Posted by Arthraxis (Post 610030)
Hmmm, can you show more pictures of the ICS bolt mounted onto the gun? I found them for sale at blazing toys, but from what I could tell from the tiny picture they have, it doesn't seem to replace the whole tray as it does in your picture, did you put something else under it? It wasn't clear from your pic either.

Hey mate, I posted a link in this thread showing the instructions for installing the bolt. The bolt doesn't require a tray. The body requires the little tabs removed, and the bolt rides right on the body, like on an ICS AK.

Anyways,

Update on the pistol

The Beta spetsnaz front sight has arrived, barrel has been chopped again, from both ends this time, redrilled 2 holes, and modified part of the new sight to bind properly with the lower handguard retainer.

This thing nicely light (but not toyish light of course), and can easily be handled with one hand by me. I shall be modifying the body to accept that Cyma AKS stock with the help of my father's handyman skills, and endless little tools :P

The pics are crap, I know. I took them in very horrible lighting. They simply don't do any justice to this AK at all. Better pics when it's with the stock attached. AKM style safety on the way. Borrowed my AKM muzzle brake for now.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...M/DSC02276.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...M/DSC02278.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...M/DSC02279.jpg

Cheers,
Alex

Arthraxis January 7th, 2008 21:16

Alright, I must've missed it, by the way, what do you plan on doing with the wire sticking out? I don't think you can rewire to use a stick battery with the ICS bolt :(

ancorp January 7th, 2008 21:19

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Originally Posted by Arthraxis (Post 610082)
Alright, I must've missed it, by the way, what do you plan on doing with the wire sticking out? I don't think you can rewire to use a stick battery with the ICS bolt :(

ICS bolt is in the AKM. This one uses an original TM bolt, except polished and blued.

I might get another ICS bolt for this AK if I get an Escort gas mechbox for it just like I plan to do for the AKM. Till then, it'll stay as is. I shall be rewiring to the front once I get my battery in the mail.

Forever_kaos January 7th, 2008 21:20

Woah, that's fancy looking :).. Not much a fan of the short little Spets, but that looks nice :)
Those are all very, very, beautiful...
If you're up for it still, I'm going to PM you with some questions on what to do with my AK, more so will around the time of the 26th so I can hunt for things at the convention :D
I just, more so, kinda need to work out what I want to do exactly lol.

ancorp January 7th, 2008 21:27

Sure mate, my PM box is always open. $20 a reply, hah.

Thanks for the comments. I'm not a fan of the TM spetsnaz myself. At all.

ancorp January 8th, 2008 13:51

Well I'm glad I slept in this morning, or else I would have missed several packages from several countries.

No sunlight today, so the colors of the pics are a bit off. Nonetheless:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...M/DSC02311.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...M/DSC02312.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...M/DSC02314.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...M/DSC02315.jpg

The AKMSU got itself an ICS safety lever (AK-74/AKM style) that still needs to be refinished. Ignore the mag, someday I'll get some converted RS 40 rounders for it. Also got it a stick battery, still need to rewire.

I got the RSOV order with reasonable speed - and inside the package laid a big fat round steel drum :P Haven't test fired it yet since I'm outta BBs.

Cheers,
Alex

ZackS January 8th, 2008 14:06

Is that long magazine two taped together :O


Or did somebody stay up all night designing that.:???:

ProbeJax January 8th, 2008 15:25

That's two magazines taped together, it looked like. That's insanely long.

Coma January 8th, 2008 16:01

Supposed to be the 70 round banana mag for an RPK. There is a real-steel version. I tried to make one as well, with about the same results.

Gato January 8th, 2008 16:20

fucking nice man!

dontask January 8th, 2008 17:22

well fuck me that worn out look on the receiver and the fantastic finish on the furniture makes it really hard to believe that's actually an airsoft gun
great job!

ancorp January 21st, 2008 14:03

Thanks guys, time for a little update (note, HUGE update coming in a couple weeks)

As you may have noticed, I stopped posting pics of my AKM with those MAG brand AKM bakelite mags. Why? I hated the color and their "newness". Thus - time for an attempted refinish, first draft:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...n/DSC02388.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...n/DSC02390.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...n/DSC02396.jpg

Also reblued the bolt with a different brand, turned out lighter:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...n/DSC02392.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...n/DSC02393.jpg

And yes, that's a mix of my AKM and some of the AK krink/pistol. Just temporary while I get some work done installing the folding stock and such.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...n/DSC02397.jpg

The camera made the wood/mag look more reddish (which is what I'd prefer really) then it really is, it has more brown in it in real life.

Stay tuned.

Cheers,
Alex

attack-beaver January 21st, 2008 14:27

what gas block are you using on your AKM carbine?

ancorp January 21st, 2008 14:29

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Originally Posted by attack-beaver (Post 621098)
what gas block are you using on your AKM carbine?

TM AK Spetsnaz. Took a bit of modding to fit.


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