CA M15A4 Carbine (Sportline) or JG M4A1 Carbine
 

Hey everyone.

Ive been looking into getting a new airsoft gun since Im tired of my clearsoft peice (yes, I know, Im not AGE VERIFIED, Im working one that, I just turned 18 on the 17th, so please dont flame, I live in a really small town in the butt f*** nowhere in b.c., and I dont get out of this town very much.). Ive been doing my homework, and Ive finally decided on getting either a CA M15A4 Carbine Sportline, or a JG M4A1 Carbine, mainly because there in my price range.

Now, I know that the obivius choice here is the CA because of the better quality and parts support, but if I can save a few bucks, then thats what Ill do. The real question comes in as Im looking at also buying a "Mad Bull/JP Rifles 12" Handguard Kit w/4 Length Barrels" kit along with a few other parts to make a sniper, (dont ask me why im building a cheap aeg into a sniper, its just what I want to do) and want to know which gun would be better to go with.

The CA is again, most likely gonna be the choice here, and as said, if i can save a few bucks, I will, and thats why I would like to know if the jg would be up to handling some fairly serius aftermarket support, and not need constant reparing and new parts.

The basic list at what Im looking at gettin is:
-Mad Bull/JP Rifles 12" Handguard Kit w/4 Length Barrels
-Mad Bull 6.03mm Tightbore Barrel - 650mm
-RIGHT M16 Sniper Stock
-Something like the 007Airsoft 390 FPS Standard Upgrade Kit
-Bipod of some sorts
-Red Dot/ Scope/ Some sort of sighting object

How does that sound for starters? I am set on the Barrel/Forend setup, but the other parts Im flexible with a bit. What gun do you guys figure would be better for this setup? Any help is greatly appreciated!

Justin

A JG will come kind of close to 390 FPS, so I don't know why you need the upgrade. Where would you get the Sportline from?

Hey everyone.

Yeah I noticed it does put out a fair bit if power stock, but the gearbox upgrade would be for more of a reliabilty reasons, metal parts over plastic parts are gonna last longer, which means less money to be spent in the long run. Or I could just be crazy lol. A&A has the Sportline, I emailed him a few days ago asking for a quote on the cost, but by the looks of american websites like www.kapowwe.com make it seem cheaper then most.

Justin

The only thing you'd need to change for reliability reasons, is to put in metal bushings and maybe do a shim job. JG's come with metal gears.

Hey everyone.

Ive heard gen1's come with plastic and gen2's come with metal, but I do see where your coming from, and I might consider dropping the Internal upgrades if I dont really need them, but thats only if I get the jg.

Justin

All JG's have metal gears. And wow that upgrade package is expensive.
And good luck getting the Right Sniper Stock. My friend has been looking for one for a while now.

Hey everyone.

Yeah, it is pretty expensive, but if you need it, or need to upgrade from plastic parts, its definitly worth it in my mind. Really? Everytime I go to 007Airsoft, they have it in stock, although with a fairly steep price tag of 270, but thats with taxes and i think shipping included.

Justin

Nope, not there. If it's not on his "In Stock" page, he doesn't have it. Might be able to GET it, not sure though. You'd have to ask him.

And why don't you buy a gun and play with it with stock parts, before you decide an upgrade?

This should cover your Sportline questions in depth.

YouTube - Classic Army Sportline M15a4- FULL REVIEW

I find the plastic (ABS) body to be a bit of a risk...

In airsoft, trying to save a few bucks will only screw you over in the long run. You're better of using the money to buy a respectable brand if you're looking for long term reliability (99.9% of the time, at least) instead of all the aftermarket stuff that will have negligible performance increases.

Go with the red-dot if anything, but as an entry level gun, you don't really need the other stuff. Bipods are usually nothing more than cumbersome accessories (I've never even fielded mine) even with a marksman rifle. Sniping isn't the easiest nor the most interesting role to fulfil as a beginner.

I think huang sells a clone of the frontend set you're looking at as well, but for a fraction of the price.

Your gonna need another 150$ set aside for internal gearbox upgrades. FPS alone doesn't mean squat if you have crappy internals.
And sniper rifles are purpose built weapons, what your making is a DMR ;) So your still attached to a squad, and fill the role of a normal rifleman, but with more accuracy.
I suggest saving up for a gun that comes with a metal body, because it's MUCH cheaper than buying a metal body later on (since you can't sell a plastic body to get any sort of refund).

Hey everyone.

Thanks for all the info, I watched that review, even though it make look like theres a few cheaper parts in the gun, and it ahs blemished metal parts, it still looks to be like a great gun.

Styrak- As for the stock, its in his product section, and even though it says its not instock (with also hasnt been updated for a month so you never know) you could still special order it through them I would assume? And Ive played 10 plus games with my freinds and there dad, and Ive decided that I would like to build the gun to what I want it to be.

Chrios- I know what you mean, but I dont really have room to save up and buy a high quality gun, I have a car, cellphone, savings, etc, that take up alot of my money as is. I think I probly will go with a red dot and a magnifier to maybe. I know sniping isnt really easy, but I play alot of paintball, and I know that the sports are alot different, I do know what it takes. And im gettin the bipod because I do plan on spending time laying down at take those 1 shot kills, just like I do in paintball, and I know that a Bipod does help.

ThunderCactus- That was the idea in gettin the upgarde kit I listed because it upgrades the internal gearbox. I know what you mean by the FPS doesnt mean squat with crappy internals lol. Where Ill be playing mostly, were just a bunch of idiots who like to play paintball/airsoft (although we do take safety and rules seriusly and dont dick around with them), and we dont really designate anyone by Rifleman or Sniper or DMR, although it would make things intresting. The reason Im not getting a higher end all metal or atleast metal body gun is the fact that I just dont have enough money, and the parts I listed will be collected over the period of several months most likely, and I want to get into the game sooner then later, even if it is with a cheaper gun.

Justin

Fair enough, if that's what you want - so long as you know that you don't need all those accessories to be able to play the game and still be competative, and that a DMR/sniper kit is one of the most expensive roles to start up in (perhaps only second to machinegunner).

The money I saved on a ghillie suit, I spent on internal upgrades for my 249 lol
Ohhhh so expensive....
Anyway, be careful with plastic guns, they break when you drop them on cement floors, ask me how i know lol
G&P is honestly the best you can get, not only is it already the highest end metal body, but all you need to upgrade are the nozzle, barrel and hopup rubber lol
Factor that into your costs, If the JG is still cheaper then buy that instead :)
Of course you don't really need to buy a sniper stock, a USMC SAM-R with a bipod and maybe a scope is all ya need :p

Oh stop it. You're always spewing your G&P propanaganda. I'm starting to think you work for them.

:D

I really wish they would sponsor our team....

Hey everyone.

Hahaha, thats funny lol, I get the idea, and dont worry, I dont plan on dropping it on cement lol. As Ive said, I do know that G&P and etc. all make very high quality guns, and buying one of them probly is cheaper in the long run, but I simply dont have the funds to get one without saving up for several more months, and I would like to get into the game right away if I can.

Justin

A carpeted floor floor can do it too :(

Hey everyone.

So Ive gotten a few pm's, and it seems like it would be perfectly okay to go with a JG over a CA if I wanted, witch is what I might do, but well see.

Justin

i would get the JG. Usually the whole point of buying CA is for the Full metal feature. if you get the sportline, than its not better than the JG. i would in fact say it is worse cause CA's have known internal issues out of the box and they are less powerful than the JG. Furthermore, JG's are TM clones, so you would have an extremely easy time acquiring parts for it.

EDIT: i dont mean to sound like a negative nancy and shit on your day, but while the politeness of your posts (hey everyone etc) is very considerate, it is not necessary. again, i dont mean for this to be taken in a negative light by any means. IMO, save that for the start of a new thread, not for each individual post. just thought i would let you know. :)

Alright, Ill cut the "Hey everyone" crap out lol, but, just outof the blue, where the hell did that come from? hahahhaha

And yeah, that does make sense, Ive read that up alot too that they do have problems, so when the time comes, I will be gettin a JG.

Justin

Age verification isn't the be all and end all of airsoft life. I live in the NWT, where there are no approved age verifiers. I just don't care anymore, because it's impossible for me to get verified.

Join the club. It's not that bad.

There is the "underage" club, the "verified" club, then the "unverified overage" club.

The only thing I miss out on are the classifieds, on one bulletin board.

Oh I wanst trying to say that Im screwed for life or anything and Ill never be able to play airsoft. Its just I see alot of flame when people post about gettin a gun and there not verified and I was just pointing out that I wont be able to lol. And that sucks, same here, no approved age verifiers.

Justin

Believe it or not i actually own both of them. I prefer to use the JG, it just sounds nicer but the acuracy isnt as good as the CA. But yeah take the JG over the CA.

Thats good to here someone has/does own both guns, thanks for the info. Is the accuracy significantly lower, or is it just the CA has a bit of an advantage on the JG? Not that its a huge huge deal, as I would be upgrading to the JP forend with a new longer inner barrel.

Justin

The JG is significantly lower than the CA, but that shouldn't matter mauch seeing how you'll be upgrading it. I ordered a tight bore barrel it's still on the road. Also it would be a good idea to get a new battery for the JG, the one that comes with the gun isnt that good. I'm using a 9.6v intellect 2000mah.

Only reason the CA sounds worse is because of the motor it uses, TM EG700 motors are real nice and quiet compared to CA.

Thats good to know, I would be nice if it had a comparable accuracy because even when I get the gun itll be a couple weeks before I have the kit and barrel, but oh well lol. Its good to know that its quieter then the CA because I do plan on being a bit sneaky lol.

Justin