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jesster202 February 6th, 2008 10:52

Who uses their plastic bodys in games.
 
i was just wondering who still uses their plastic bodys on their guns for play or do you guys just get rid of them?

CDN_Stalker February 6th, 2008 10:54

I haven't bothered getting metal bodies for my TM MP5s yet, both are pretty solid.

diamond_SEA February 6th, 2008 11:03

Im scared to see how much a hurricane body would be for my SIG. (220 in HK. ~300 + in country im thinking)

Endymion February 6th, 2008 11:14

No problems so far with the plastic S-System body on my TM.

kalnaren February 6th, 2008 11:15

G36's don't have metal bodies, but I don't care because the fiberglass is study as hell.

jesster202 February 6th, 2008 11:20

just wantted to see because i am making a parts gun now all i need is a stuiped motor cover lol. thats it i got everthing else. just wantted to see because my first gun is all metal this one is all metal expect for the body so yeah just seeing how long the m4 would stand up to a not rough abuse of couse.

Rico February 6th, 2008 11:21

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 636463)
I haven't bothered getting metal bodies for my TM MP5s yet, both are pretty solid.

Thats what I thought before I got a metal body on mine. But wow, it is like night and day. You don't realize how much your gun creaks and flexes until you go metal. :)

pawscal February 6th, 2008 11:49

I go full metal on everything I own ( except my g36) once you go metal, you dont go back.

Brit ter February 6th, 2008 11:53

I have both metal and plastic and there isn,t to much of a difference

CDN_Stalker February 6th, 2008 12:07

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Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 636482)
G36's don't have metal bodies, but I don't care because the fiberglass is study as hell.

Fiberglass?

Renegade) February 6th, 2008 12:18

Never even used plastic... except GBB's, kinda worked out that way :)

First gun ICS, SR came with metal, same wit hthe VN/

Splashx February 6th, 2008 12:20

I will never return to plastic for my G3. Even if I don't have the metal sliding stock, it is a real improvement in feeling, and weight!

kalnaren February 6th, 2008 12:31

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 636516)
Fiberglass?

Yea. The TM one is ABS plastic, the CA one is what CA calls "glass fiber" which, I assume, is a type of fiberglass. It's not ABS or polycarb.

Goodl2ussian February 6th, 2008 12:41

all my M4s from now get metal bodies.
its sturdier and pins dont go flying out randomly.

CDN_Stalker February 6th, 2008 12:46

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Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 636528)
Yea. The TM one is ABS plastic, the CA one is what CA calls "glass fiber" which, I assume, is a type of fiberglass. It's not ABS or polycarb.

Doesn't feel like fiberglass to me. Maybe it's just some type of plastic with glass fibers throughout it. I know, picky, just never considered it to be fiberglass in the real context.

But hey, you like it, that's the main thing.

pawscal February 6th, 2008 13:00

Probably glass filled nylon.

Igor01 February 6th, 2008 13:02

It's a well-known fact that plastic is 38.2% less tactical than pot metal.

Jimski February 6th, 2008 13:03

yep, please do shake your (plastic) body.

Lakonian February 6th, 2008 13:08

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Originally Posted by Igor01 (Post 636549)
It's a well-known fact that plastic is 38.2% less tactical than pot metal.

LOL!

Pot metal can be tactical.... if heated, and thrown at someone.. :p

No, seriously... TMs in their stock form are pretty bad. Especially the ARs without a FFB. God damn... When I first got my TM (jan '07) , I immediately bought a metal body... couldn't stand the plastic. And it being an early version M4 didn't help much either..

Crunchmeister February 6th, 2008 13:10

I prefer the feel of the metal C8 body over the stock TM M4A1 body. But even when it was stock and I compared it to my metal CA M15, it still felt decent. I wouldn't have worried about breaking it. However, once you go metal, it's hard to return to plastic.

MADDOG February 6th, 2008 13:10

Plastic is fine
 
I have one M4 that is over 7 years old and still working fine.
All my guns have plastic bodies, you can paint them and scratch them and never have to worry about it. Everything else in the guns is upgraded but I still use the plastic bodies.

I have elminated all barrel wobble on my old M4's with the screw down pins used with rubber washers. It tightens the plastic body and holds the barrel in a tight grip. I also used Bruce's barrel wobble kit, but the guarder screw in body pins did more than anything to eliminate that issue.

Function over looks for me and all of mine work just fine.

MD

Lakonian February 6th, 2008 13:34

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Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 636555)
I prefer the feel of the metal C8 body over the stock TM M4A1 body. But even when it was stock and I compared it to my metal CA M15, it still felt decent. I wouldn't have worried about breaking it. However, once you go metal, it's hard to return to plastic.

mmmmm. Nothing like cold metal against your skin.. :p

Igor01 February 6th, 2008 13:50

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Originally Posted by kos (Post 636565)
mmmmm. Nothing like cold metal against your skin.. :p

I'll take the liberty to recommend silk scarves instead of regular police handcuffs. Oh, and scented candles.

Lakonian February 6th, 2008 14:04

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Originally Posted by Igor01 (Post 636578)
I'll take the liberty to recommend silk scarves instead of regular police handcuffs. Oh, and scented candles.

My relationship with my gun is a bit.... rougher than usual. ;)

swatt13 February 6th, 2008 16:51

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Originally Posted by Igor01 (Post 636549)
It's a well-known fact that plastic is 38.2% less tactical than pot metal.

whered you get your numbers? i read in chatelain yesterday that it was at least 69%

kalnaren February 6th, 2008 16:51

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 636535)
Doesn't feel like fiberglass to me. Maybe it's just some type of plastic with glass fibers throughout it. I know, picky, just never considered it to be fiberglass in the real context.

But hey, you like it, that's the main thing.

Well, even if it is just really dense ABS, it doesn't creak or flex :p

ThunderCactus February 6th, 2008 17:06

Plastic is fine so long as your not rough with it, don't drop it on cement floors, and don't strip the threaded holes lol

13Fido13 February 6th, 2008 18:07

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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 636682)
Plastic is fine so long as your not rough with it, don't drop it on cement floors, and don't strip the threaded holes lol

I agree. The m14 and g3 have done just fine. The g3 creaks like a bitch but other than that she's great. I've got the mp40 that is steel and it's nice, but right now I can't justify the cost for a metal body for the g3. It will all happen in time.

Omi-san February 6th, 2008 18:12

My custom TM M4A1 still has its plastic body (painted flat black). It looks fine and I will only change it if it breaks.

Also, with the metal SIR hanguard, Systema gearbox shell, aimpoint replica and clamped metal mags, it's heavy enough for me.

ThunderCactus February 6th, 2008 18:25

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Originally Posted by 13Fido13 (Post 636724)
The g3 creaks like a bitch but other than that she's great.

Been there! My G3 wobbled like a wet noodle after keystone 2.5 lol
Now that it has a metal body it's not goin anywhere!

Naglfar February 6th, 2008 18:32

I prefer plastic bodies...people usually let them go for $30 - $40 which is fine with me if I have to replace once or twice, still cheaper than metal, easier to dremel fit things too.

Forever_kaos February 6th, 2008 19:24

For me, I love the look and feel of the metal body vs the plastic.

(Side note - hurray! Verification went though today :) ColtFarmer rules!)

Aquamarine February 6th, 2008 19:35

I still have the same plastic body so.. no worries for me.

Styrak February 6th, 2008 19:42

Half of my AUG is plastic and it's fine.

LUTNIT February 6th, 2008 21:34

Just readjusted my PTW RIS and outer barrel, I was running around my house swinging it like a base ball bat by the end of the barrel. I'd like to see someone do that with a plastic bodied M4A1. I can drop my gun, run into trees (still have a scar on my arm from doing that at the LZ...), get bodychecked (has happened at the mill), swing it on the sling to get it out of my way to draw my GBB and have it smash into a steel pole. Of course all this is possible with most other guns with plastic bodies, its really just armalites that suffer horribly from it.

As for the fiber glass, yes CA uses fiberglass in a lot of their non-metal guns. Fiberglass is just the glass filaments which still need to be in some sort of resin. As far as I know its just fiberglass injected into ABS plastic. Even look at Pelican cases, they are all fiberglass reinforced but I'm not sure what the plastic binder is.

pawscal February 6th, 2008 21:39

its nylon

Crunchmeister February 6th, 2008 21:52

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Originally Posted by kos (Post 636565)
mmmmm. Nothing like cold metal against your skin.. :p

I'm all about metal... for my guns and my music. lol

But yeah, even though I had nothing bad to say about the plastic TM body, the M15's metal body just felt so much nicer and more solid. I never fielded the gun, but I'm sure it would have held up fine, just as many other plastic TM bodies. And you can break a metal body too. They're tougher, but don't have the durability of their real steel counterparts.

Then again, I should add that I didn't go metal because I was in any way displeased with the plastic body. I had bought the gun specifically to be the basis for my C8A2 project. I never had any intention of keeping the stock body. The C8 body had always been a planned upgrade.

namloot February 7th, 2008 20:26

If the real one is metal, I like a metal replica.
If the real one is plastic, I like a plastic replica.

CDN_Stalker February 7th, 2008 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 636590)
My relationship with my gun is a bit.... rougher than usual. ;)

Hence his adding a tightbore, he got fed up with the motor whining "Is it in yet?!?!"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 636782)
I still have the same plastic body so.. no worries for me.

And here I thought her body was made of life-like laytex all this time, and then you claim that you are a cheap bastard that prefers vinyl?!?!?! My respect for you has dropped through the floor!!!! :D Dollar store patch up kits, huh?

tunabreath February 7th, 2008 21:07

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Originally Posted by namloot (Post 637748)
If the real one is metal, I like a metal replica.
If the real one is plastic, I like a plastic replica.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

CDN_Stalker February 7th, 2008 21:43

Fuck, it pisses me off when people brag about their PTWs. More so those that brag about them in threads where the PTW doesn't belong!

"Who do you think if gonna win the Democrat candidate's spot for the next Presidential election?"

"My new Systema PTW, cuz it rocks!!!"

Fuck off with the PTW worship already, and stop treating everyone else like we own clearsoft!!!!! Get a fucking woman for Christ's sake!!!!

dodger_me February 7th, 2008 21:55

Still got the plastic on the jg, Works fine... for now
Im picking up a metal body soon

TokyoSeven February 7th, 2008 22:22

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 637823)
Fuck, it pisses me off when people brag about their PTWs. More so those that brag about them in threads where the PTW doesn't belong!

"Who do you think if gonna win the Democrat candidate's spot for the next Presidential election?"

"My new Systema PTW, cuz it rocks!!!"

Fuck off with the PTW worship already, and stop treating everyone else like we own clearsoft!!!!! Get a fucking woman for Christ's sake!!!!

Im with you on that one theres a time and a place for everything, as for me and PTW's Ive Never liked them and never will. Regardless what model or what it resembles. Its just not my thing, dont try and tell me using one will change my mind, because Ive handled one and I still dont care for it.

LUTNIT February 7th, 2008 22:31

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 637823)
Fuck, it pisses me off when people brag about their PTWs. More so those that brag about them in threads where the PTW doesn't belong!

Comparing metal receiver to plastic, it belongs doesn't it? Do to a plastic armalite what I did to my metal one and the front end will stay in your hands and the receiver and stock will go flying across the room. As for the PTW part, could be anything with a metal receiver really as long as its high enough quality (G&P for example.) Only used a PTW specifically as an example because of all the G&P fanboys saying PTW's are fragile and rattle a lot. I haven't seen any posts as out of place as you said and no one said any airsoft gun that isn't a PTW is clearsoft. Personally Stalker if you had a stock TM MP5 and I had my PTW, one on one, if anyone puts money on me their an idiot.

As for my original post, the message I was trying to get across was:
Quote:

Just readjusted the RIS and outer barrel on my metal bodied armalite, I was running around my house swinging it like a base ball bat by the end of the barrel. I'd like to see someone do that with a plastic bodied M4A1. I can drop my gun, run into trees (still have a scar on my arm from doing that at the LZ...), get bodychecked (has happened at the mill), swing it on the sling to get it out of my way to draw my GBB and have it smash into a steel pole. Of course all this is possible with most other guns with plastic bodies, its really just armalites that suffer horribly from it.
same difference but people freak because I put "PTW" in there....geeze. I only said "PTW" to give context as to which model of armalite I have, it could have been G&P, CA, G&G, or anything else and you wouldn't have said boo.

T7...do you actually have a $24 000 Rolex? This has nothing to do with PTW's or airsoft at all, just wondering because that seems really expensive for a watch.

CDN_Stalker February 7th, 2008 22:41

Is more to the point of stock plastic bodies vs. aftermarket (or other brand stock) metal bodies comparison, not so much AEGs that come stock with good metal bodies.

Appreciate the 1 vs. 1 plug though, guess yo still remember my magic BB from my G19 when you and I were duking it out 50ft away form each other behind trees, you switched to GBB for shits & giggles, as did I, and my 'magic BB' wove in and around branches to smack you in the middle of the goggles. Still love hearing you comment on the path of that BB, like it was in slow motion. Kinda reminds me of Mother Duck at Op: Nam in 2005, I got the first kill of the day, my patrol came across movement 150ft away in the brush, we went into the base near us, I got a bead on them with my M24, saw a body and a face.......... later Mother Duck says "Ya, I saw you aiming at us, I told the others "I see Stalker scoping us out, he's pointing in our direction, he's about to..................... SMACK!..................shoot. Damn!".......... Goggle shot. Lol

Still, I'm annoyed I can't afford a PTW kit, unsure if I had the cash if I'd buy an Armalite one or the new MP5 one. Probably get the Armatlie one, even though I find them really uncomfortable and unwieldy compared to the MP5 (I run two MP5s for a reason, and it has nothing to do with "fashion" like 90% of the players out there).................. hell, I could always sell it if it still didn't work for me.

LUTNIT February 7th, 2008 22:50

After market metal bodies also can have fitment issues. A fully assembled metal gun stock is made by all the same manufacturer and fits together from the factory. If you take a TM M4A1, HurricanE metal body, G&P RIS unit, King Arms outer barrel, Star stock, and Guarder grip chances are somewhere in there you will need to do some tinkering to really get it solid and at that it may never be as solid as a gun with all parts from the same manufacturer.

I know 100% that I saw that BB of yours duck under a branch, rise over another, go slightly to the left to dodge a leaf, and then smack me in the goggles. Thats EXACTLY how it happened. Also I used my GBB because the battery Foxtail lent me was toast, only got about 100rnds out of it and it was 1700mAh. As for PTW MP5's at the fps' you play at it wouldn't be a problem but the higher fps cylinders can balloon and jam in the receiver or not fit back into the receiver. Apparently thats whats kept M170 cylinders from being released, not that the gears can't take it but the cylinder design can't handle a spring that powerful. Read that somewhere (might have been Arnies...) but not 100% sure since its never popped up on the PTW forums.

CDN_Stalker February 7th, 2008 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUTNIT (Post 637937)
After market metal bodies also can have fitment issues.

No shit, is why I charge extra money to do upgrades to a gun (mechboxwise) plus installation of a metal body. Liteally takes me more screwing around to fit everything and make it work in a new metal body than it does to upgrade, check shimming, clearances, and such to a mechbox. FTK in a gun, $40 flat, FTK in a gun plus install of a metal body, $60. Headaches galore, but not near as much as installing a crappy brand of Crane stock though, that is the worst and I avoid those upgrades.

As far as my BB flights tend to go, often it's a battle between my "Zen" and Mother Nature. My "Zen" helps me with camo, often leadig to reports of guys almost stepping on me (the Force is strong in this one), to my BBs either going around obstacles, in your case, to my sniper rifle BBs deciding to fuck off to oe side or the other, heading off for beer I assume, or Mother Nature giving my flight path one that'd make anyone jealous. Nutshell, like the way multicam works, it's either a hit or miss, no pun intended.

Firewalker February 7th, 2008 23:41

I broke my TM's receiver tab... Since then, I've declared that I'll never go back to plastic.

jesster202 February 8th, 2008 00:01

lol just though id see if any of u still used them i use both now just wantted to see how long they held up never expected this to go all out on metal bodys lol.

Amos February 8th, 2008 00:04

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 637823)
Fuck, it pisses me off when people brag about their PTWs. More so those that brag about them in threads where the PTW doesn't belong!

"Who do you think if gonna win the Democrat candidate's spot for the next Presidential election?"

"My new Systema PTW, cuz it rocks!!!"

Fuck off with the PTW worship already, and stop treating everyone else like we own clearsoft!!!!! Get a fucking woman for Christ's sake!!!!

QF fucking T!

demco11 February 8th, 2008 00:09

My TM ak-47's plastic body is still fine and dandy

KNIVEZS February 8th, 2008 00:41

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Originally Posted by demco11 (Post 638015)
My TM ak-47's plastic body is still fine and dandy

same here still using my TM Ak-47's body

LUTNIT February 8th, 2008 12:28

Yeah, AK's, MP5's, G36's, and a bunch of others are all perfectly fine with plastic bodies. Its pretty much just armalites and G3's that have problems with plastic bodies.

jtjcheng February 8th, 2008 14:22

Metal bodies are better...both the feel (it's COLD not warm like plastic) and durability...but the paint on them tends to be easily scratched...

Plastic bodies are fine...never had a problem...but you never know...I'm always afraid of them breaking one day...

CDN_Stalker February 8th, 2008 14:46

Metal bodies are more expensive to acquire and replace when something breaks on them. Lol

Lakonian February 8th, 2008 14:58

LOL.. I like hearing people argue over PTW vs AEG. Whatever happened to having skill?

And don't tell me non-PTW users don't talk smack about ptws, and brag about their performance. Despite the fact that half of 'em don't know nearly as much about their guns as they like to think.

The only reason why I bring up my PTW (obviously not overzealously like Ronan ;)) is because it took me a fucking really long time to save for it.. and how many youngsters like me do ya know that own a PTW? NOT MANY...

sigsour February 8th, 2008 16:05

I'm not in the habit of removing my breasts before playing, but I agree they would present less of a target.


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