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DonP March 17th, 2008 13:18

3-Round Burst, etc AEG mosfet computers product lauch coming!
 
This is to announce the AEG Fire Control Computers I will be launching for sale sometime in the next couple weeks!

EDIT: THE STORE AND PRODUCT HAVE LAUNCHED!

This is 100% assembled and serviced in Canada! :) No cross-border nonsense to deal with.

TRIGGER MASTER Full AEG Fire Control Computer
- 100% electronic control provides:
- Semi-auto
- 3-round burst
- Full auto
- Fully programmable
- Low battery warning
- Replaces AEG fuse
- Enhanced motor and battery operation

The devices you've all come know and drool over from http://extreme-fire.com are being produced (with permission) right here in Canada.

The basic SW-COMPUTER units will be available right off the bat, and I will be also making available some units with enhanced features in the future. I can also do custom programming for specific requests (for example, a unit to make an MP40 fire at a more realistic 500rpm, etc).

You can watch for the launch announcement here on ASC in the For Sale section where they will be available for sale, or you can watch http://unconventional-airsoft.com/store for launch news and details.

They will be 65$ each.

Qlong March 17th, 2008 13:24

What is the price range?

Mud Gunner March 17th, 2008 13:27

3rd burst would be nice :)

DonP March 17th, 2008 13:29

65 CDN each. (I've added to the original post, thanks for pointing out the oversight)

These are at this very moment being assembled and tested - they are 100% going to be available right here!

Kokanee March 17th, 2008 13:48

Awesome stuff Don, can't wait to see one of these in person.

Amos March 17th, 2008 14:21

Semi.. Burst.. AND full?

I'm sold.

Jimski March 17th, 2008 14:36

this is awesome I want 10 of them !!!

Mud Gunner March 17th, 2008 14:43

Is there a fuse assocaited or built into this thing? I am thinking we would have a piece of electronics to fry if something went wrong :(

I'm awfully tempted (the above is my prime reservation).

Tankdude March 17th, 2008 14:46

Can you do a burst of 6?

Qlong March 17th, 2008 15:43

He did say "will be also making available some units with enhanced features in the future. I can also do custom programming for specific requests" :)

Jimski March 17th, 2008 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mud Gunner (Post 671099)
Is there a fuse assocaited or built into this thing? I am thinking we would have a piece of electronics to fry if something went wrong :(

I'm awfully tempted (the above is my prime reservation).

well there is a built-in mosfet, so it's not supposed to fry.

kalnaren March 17th, 2008 16:14

So are these pretty much the same as the ones from extreme-fire?

Endymion March 17th, 2008 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 671189)
So are these pretty much the same as the ones from extreme-fire?

I was wondering the same thing. To be more precise, are these the Extreme-Fire FETs except made in Canada? If not, in what ways do these differ?

DonP March 17th, 2008 17:28

Different units are going to be available with different features.

The same ones as the extreme-fire.com SW-COMPUTER are going to be the first ones available. They are being made, sold, and serviced here in Canada with permission of extreme-fire.com.

This video demonstrates the unit: YouTube - AEG SW-Computer by Extreme-Fire by Maks of SOG Airsoft

Specialized fire control units custom-made for different applications will be coming. These units will be specially made for semi-only DM or Sniper guns, or to make specific guns more closely match the rate-of-fire of their real-world counterparts, etc.

But the first ones available will be the same ones as extreme-fire.com (except they are made, sold, and serviced in Canada).

DonP March 17th, 2008 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mud Gunner (Post 671099)
Is there a fuse assocaited or built into this thing? I am thinking we would have a piece of electronics to fry if something went wrong :(

I'm awfully tempted (the above is my prime reservation).

There is a fuse built in to protect the electronics, yes. The fuse is self-resetting, too!

ww2warrior March 19th, 2008 22:06

Nice product! Can't wait to get one

eel one March 20th, 2008 08:24

The SW-computer does not have a fuse, but it have active monitoring and the gun will self protect by shutting down the power in the event of high drain, low battery... well real the feature list at extreme-fire.com a fuse is not needed with this.

SavageInsight March 20th, 2008 08:31

How much heat do these guys produce and how easily do they fail?

yanhchan March 20th, 2008 08:38

Can these be used in AEPs?

kalnaren March 20th, 2008 08:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by SavageInsight (Post 673671)
How much heat do these guys produce and how easily do they fail?

Very little heat. It's a MOSFET switch with computer control so it's capable of taking quite a load. If it does overheat, it shuts itself down. I think Gandalf's original production run of 50-60 units or so only had 2 fail, and 1 was due to inproper assembly.

eel one March 20th, 2008 19:42

The latest count of units says that there is 91 units out there now and less than a handful failures. Pretty good for a brand new concept I think

The unit shuts down if the temperature exceeds 75 degree C, if my memory serves me correct. Doing the beta trails, it was the one failure I just could not provoke.

swatt13 March 20th, 2008 20:11

awesome, i know a buch of my club members that would be very interested.

DonP March 21st, 2008 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by eel one (Post 673669)
The SW-computer does not have a fuse, but it have active monitoring and the gun will self protect by shutting down the power in the event of high drain, low battery... well real the feature list at extreme-fire.com a fuse is not needed with this.

Actually there is a fuse on the board (200mA SMD resetting fuse), but it's there to protect the electonics. I thought that was what Mud was asking about (he sounded worried about the board itself frying.)

DonP March 21st, 2008 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by yanhchan (Post 673675)
Can these be used in AEPs?

Theoretically it could, might need some modifications though.

Your problem will be fitting it INTO the AEP though. AEPs are pretty densely packed inside.

DonP March 25th, 2008 13:33

Will be releasing this week!

There will be 3 options available at launch:

Standard Burst/Fullauto (Safe-Semi-Burst/Full) - With selector on "full", a 3 round burst is fired. Gun goes full auto if the trigger remains held down.

Burst Only (Safe-Semi-Burst) - Same as above, but without the fullauto when the trigger held down. (Similar to the original M16A1)

Semi-Locked (Safe-Semi-Semi) The gun is locked in the semi-only mode. This is useful for sniper guns where semi-only locking is a requirement.


http://unconventional-airsoft.com/gf...kage-parts.JPG

Anywhere a fuse holder can fit, this can fit.
http://unconventional-airsoft.com/gf...ter/t_size.JPG

Qlong March 25th, 2008 14:48

Love the retard-proof instructions, makes installation that much easier.

Mud Gunner March 25th, 2008 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonP (Post 674328)
Actually there is a fuse on the board (200mA SMD resetting fuse), but it's there to protect the electonics. I thought that was what Mud was asking about (he sounded worried about the board itself frying.)

Yup was worried about the board itself frying. Don, will try and remember to send you a PM on this topic later.

This topic is more and more intriguing the more I learn about it....

DonP March 28th, 2008 18:54

It's alive!

These are now available, and the online store is open!

You will need some technical know-how to install this. You can read the included Quickstart documentation here -- if nothing in there looks too scary, you're good to go!

Syn March 28th, 2008 19:02

Q: Is the mosfet soldered to the board or do you use the tiny sockets like Gandolf does.

circled yellow tiny sockets. btw your shipping charge is awesomely low! :)
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9...ntgreenka5.jpg

LyquidFyre March 28th, 2008 19:48

How would the wiring work with an AUG as I know the trigger contacts are a bit funny with them.

joker060 March 28th, 2008 22:52

Hey are you willing to accept EMT?

DonP March 29th, 2008 02:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syn (Post 680076)
Q: Is the mosfet soldered to the board or do you use the tiny sockets like Gandolf does.

That's the microcontroller (i.e. the brains) not either the main (big thing on the left) or braking (on other side of the board) mosfet.

But yes, it's socketed!

And the low shipping price is thanks to the package being small enough, so domestic shipping is nice and low if it's sent as regular mail. Xpresspost is much more expensive though.

DonP March 29th, 2008 02:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by joker060 (Post 680295)
Hey are you willing to accept EMT?

Sure do! EMT's the preferred method if you're willing.

DonP March 29th, 2008 02:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by LyquidFyre (Post 680117)
How would the wiring work with an AUG as I know the trigger contacts are a bit funny with them.

I'm not really familiar with the AUG, but you can splice into existing wiring for any of the connections you need to make to minimize hassle.

So far the easiest has been the AK. The trigger and motor contacts are separate and run right outside the mechbox. Super easy.


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