New Marine Uniforms
 

In some newer pictures, some Marines, deployed in Iraq have been seen wearing (Top and Bottom) A sort of Tan-drab uniform... Does anyone know what this is and why they have it? Only some do, and it seems as it is only on the Tunic and Pants. I am confused as to what it is and why some are wearing it... any information would be a help to my question.

Would that be the Nomex flightsuits?

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5247/nomexjv8.jpg

sorry for the bad picture, theres allot of them around but I couldn't be bothered.

Yes, So I assume that these are embedded Airmen?

Lot of troops are wearing them now as they are more flame resistant than their other uniforms. An no, they are not Airman, the troops in the pics you've seen could be Infantrymen, MPs, etc.

You think these look rediculus an unprofessional? Give your head a shake please, they are at war and are doing what they can to protect their troops. Injuries due to flash burns, fire etc are high over there due to IEDs, vehicles on fire, etc.

I know how it is over there.. I am waiting for my deployment. I understand the need for flame retardant clothing, however I was unaware as to the type of uniform being worn. It is not impossible to create the digital pattern with flame retardant material, OE Tech's wear them. I guess it is just a question of mass production. The necessity has become more clear with the use of Body armour.

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't slander my nation's military.

You clearly don't by the way.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5913/frog1oa1.jpg

There is no 'slandering' going on. I clearly am asking anyone to enlighten me on something I have noticed. Why would you bother to tell me I do not know anything? I am clearly asking for someone to tell me. In regards to your information, thank you, that diagram is perfect, and completely answer's my query. As for not 'knowing anything' I would ask where you could create that assumption?
Speak for yourself, that 'Nation' is mine as well.

An American in the QOR? HG is American...and a gangster rapper.

I am not questioning his nationality, merely stating that he can't defend his assuming that mine can only be something different..

They could be flightsuits or just 2 piece nomex bdu's. The us uses nomex for flight suits aswell as armor crews. Just because they make nomex marpat dosent mean they have enough to get to troops , they could have a ton of tan nomex in storage and its just easier to get it to guys being deployed who knows.

the FROG stuff (and newer FROG II) is for regular Marines. Not sure how much use it actually gets, I don't recall seeing many pictures of people wearing it except one instance of someone wearing that cammie top (I wouldn't mind one).

The flightsuit (either tan or sage) is sometimes worn by Force Recon and FAST (Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team). It's the standard CWU-27/P Aircrew Flight Suit made of nomex, usually worn in conjunction with nomex flight gloves and a nomex flash hood. The nomex kit is worn in CQB scenarios to protect against flash burns. The flightsuits have been reclassified as FROG II.

Additional ways of distinguishing FR personnel from regular Marines is by their body armor; while most Marines wear the Interceptor body armor (in Coyote Brown), FR typically wear either the CIRAS or a PACA low profile soft armor in conjunction with the MBSS plate carrier.

USMC engineers use the flightsuit, better flash protection, not just Force Recon. Other marines also use the flightsuits, normally those at high risk of being attacked by IEDs or other explosive devices. Also, the interceptor is being phased out, in fact, it's becoming rare to see a deployed marine using an interceptor. It's been replaced by the PPI MTV, designed by PPI, manufactured by Eagle.

Thanks guys, all this information is great. Solving the visual riddle that is the odd coloured suits some marines are seen in.

Don,t forget the two piece tan hot weather flight suit worn in black hawk down, I have seen pics of Jar heads wearing these also!

Don't be shocked if you see pics of SEAL, SWCC and or the new Maritime units in Iraq (non-SWCC Riverine forces) using these as well - I've got reports from the sandbox saying that's the case...

It all boils down to the fact that the "new" uniforms (MARPAT / ACU) were not originally designed to be a fire reistant as needed. The flightsuits are a stopgap "field expediant" measure until stuff like the new FROG II gear shown above can make their way to troops on the front lines...

There's a by now pretty well known picture of late Nay SEAL Micheal Monsoor wearing MarPat trousers (looks like the normal variety though). LINK (hi-res pic warning, SFW)

thats probably DIGI 2 though. since navy uses it...someone else might know for sure...?

Hard to say what it is. There are accounts of Seals wearing Desert Marpat, my guess would be that it is dig2 though.

I'm actually going to lean more towards those being FROG II pants. The cut does not look anything like any of the DIG2 ones, but I could be wrong, there has been MANY different patterns tested by Crye for the DIG2 uniform.

But even with this high res pic, its hard to tell, so I rather not speculate.

If anyone is considering buying FROG cammies. Expect to pay a crap load. I'm dead serious. They go for the same price of real Crye stuff. Some guy on ebay had a FROG top made by Crye. He wanted $800 USD for it....

The Frog stuff isn't particularly hard to get, as it is issued wider than just NSW. You're probably referring to dig2 stuff which is different. It looks like frog II suit but has subtle differences. I've seen dig2 tops/sets go for $800. Last one on ebay went for just under $400 for the top.

I know dudes that want like 500 euro for a set of FROG II uniform...

Its just really really hard to get, so price reflects that

Where do you get this Dig2 stuff?

Rob a DevGru or ask really really really nicely with at least 800$ USD to a collector from Wannabe is your best bet =/

LBT sells gear in Digi2. If you're looking for clothing you either need an 'in' or be prepared to pay ass-rapingly high premium on ebay.

EDIT: LBT does NOT sell gear in Digi2. They sell AOR1 and 2. They're based on MARPAT but do not have the EGA embedded.

what's soo great about it exactly?

It's used by OMGL337SEALZORZZ!!!!

???? That Darker MARPAT type stuff?

LBT does no longer sell DIG2 stuff to non secret squirrel. I asked them and even sent in my .mil ID, no dice. They had a small overrun of stuff that sold off to the public a while ago at 3 times the price, but since then, nothing.

DIG2 is the ACU pattern, but in Marpat colors... Yep... that and its made by Crye in the same current patern as their MC stuff... Oh and it makes you sooooooooo highspeed that even a Blackbird can't catch you lol

Edited my previous post.

LBT?

London Bridge Trading

lol sorry. I'm an ACU whore.

Focus Eddie, focus! LOL

haha! I'm not THAT Interested man! I'm satisfied with my Army Combat Shirt :). Which I continue to keep getting crap for owning it.

Hey pugs, where'd you get that info about AOR1 being different from Dig2? I ask because in the pics I'm thinking of there are guys wearing a lbt 6094a with eagle dig2 pouches. Also from what I hear it's just different companies nomenclature

Got the info from Ace Of Spades. Him and the Contras are the go-to guys when it comes to this sort of thing. From what I understand, Digi2 was developed by Crye. Also IIRC, the AOR1 and AOR2 patterns will be used on the new utility uniforms that'll be issued Navy-wide.

I've seen AOR2 (woodland) advertised on LBT's website at one point but can't seem to find any references to it anymore.

You're probably right that the Digi and AOR are the same, just different nomenclature. Honestly, I don't have the time anymore to keep up with who's-wearing-what-pattern and who-makes-that-chestrig etc.

Here's another interesting pattern NSW has been seen using:
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/k...6032737392.jpg
Anybody got info on this?

That pattern of shirt went up on ebay a while ago from Easy. I can't remember what the info about it was. It dates from around 2006-2007 and was the precursor to DIG2. If I where still in contact with Easy, I would be able to get LOTS of info on it.

For the whole AOR vs DIG2 thing, I'm not the best to answer such questions, I do get lots of info from friends that work with SEALs (MP's at their bases or RIVRON/SWCC dudes), but I find that it is sometimes unreliable and quite a long wait between updates.

AOR IS DIG2 for all intensive purposes, just using LBT's name for it.

I used to have a bunch of info on that weird pattern stuff. From what I remember there were a few fabrics up in the air for selection for NSW. That was one of them. The pattern itself was a desert version of a hunting camo, I even had the website bookmarked (can't find it anymore). The fabric was given to beyond tactical to put together in one of their leet cut bdus. Thats the info I had found anyways.

I had the link as well. I asked about it on the Wannabe forums but my thread got deleted because of the drama with that Two Step fella during that time. Ghey.

It's been in production for a while.

http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/phot...ium/TOMMYV.jpg

We've all seen that picture. It doesn't change anything said above. We don't actually know if Devgru are wearing it outside of that one photo. It may just be him trying on a potential camo choice. I'm sure they would try and run them through the paces before making a decision. Plus Devgru gets all kinds of crazy stuff to test.

It's official, the US Navy will be adopting the blue Navy Working Uniform. I suppose AOR1 and AOR2 will be just for the high speed types.

http://www.new-navy-uniform.com/site...es-735x637.jpg
It looks faaaabulous!!!

I've seen those uniforms. They are nasty looking.

lovin' the performance mock turtlenecks, definitely have to pick one up for this season. Weird how close they look, almost a waste of having two.

I wouldn't wear those if they were given to me. I'd give them to the homeless.

http://www.naturalgear.com/shopOnline.asp

I think I found the website for that snakeskin NSW pattern. I remember somebody saying it was a desert version of the patterns there.

Now now ladies, aside from the Dig2 AOR1 and Marpat. Blackhawk might offer some assistance. http://www.blackhawk.com/product/ITS...,1219,1433.htm

Nice find, now what the hell is DM3 Desert Digital?

Not sure. But the Navy will be adopting these. ALSO, Tru-Spec will be making Combat shirts

What does this pattern do that desert marpat doesnt?

Absolutely nothing, you'd probably be hard pressed to even see the difference unless side by side. Theres a few pics of seals using desert marpat anyways.