Pétiton: Légalisation de l'importation de airsoft au Canada Legalization of the impo
 

Bonjour,

Une pétition pour la légalisation de l'importation de répliques airsoft au Canada est en cour, parlons tout d'une seul et même vois pour que nos dirigeants nous entende et que nous

puissions tous pratiquer notre sport en toute liberté.

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Pétiton: Legalization of the importation of airsoft in Canada
 

Hello,

As you all know already, importing airsoft replicas in Canada is near impossible without the proper license. This makes replicas hard to find, and when you find them, they usually cost more than 3 times more than what they cost in Hon-kong and in the United States. Still, there are a lot of people playing airsoft across the nation, but what if importing airsft replicas was legal? This would make airsoft more accessible, and WAY cheaper . Here’s our chance to be able to import those legally. Sign this petition, not only it might make us save money, but it might aswell make a lot of people discover the great hobby that airsoft is.

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somehow i really dont think they will take a online petition very seriously

It's amazing how many of us think that politicians will give a rats ass about a few hundred airsofters.

I read a good article in GUNS Magazine (Nov.1994) about how in the states (gun capitol of the world!) the owners of real steel are trying like mad to make sure that their REAL guns will remain in their hands. The article was borderline calling for armed revolution.

Here in peace loving Canada with millions LESS people we airsofters are a tiny drop in the bucket.

It's been said before that if you want to try to make a difference in our sports growth, get involved with REAL gun owners who actually have more of a realistic "lobby" chance.

Support "real steel" shooting sports across the country and educate people around you about airsoft, we are so small that we have to be grassroots.

I don't know.....I guess good luck with this anyway.

Importing airsoft guns
 

Is legal, with the appropriate licenses.

So right from the outset your position is doomed, because you don't know what you are asking for.

there are literally 100 threads on this site with ths exact same "initiatives" proposed.. read some of them to become familiar with the issues.

Also airsoft guns are not difficult to get.

Combined your two threads. I think we can handle having two languages in one thread.

The only way I can see to make airsoft more legalized is to convince the politicians that having easy access is a good thing, such as if thugs were using these to hold people up there's less chance of them having a real gun and they would be less likely to actually shoot some one... of course you'll still have stupid soccer moms crying when johnny the thug gets shot for real but meh, it's darwin at work.

Online petition. Addressed to the wrong federal entity. Asking for airsoft to be judged not by the fact that they don't shoot real bullets but only resemble perfectly prohibited firearms.

Ugh...

<sarcasm off>

Sérieusement, l'enthousiasme n'est jamais une mauvaise idée sauf quant elle provient du gars qui tente de te faire charger un bunker plein de nids de mitraillettes.


Sérieusement, pourquoi risquer un engagement avec les pouvoirs qui règnent sur ce pays pour tenter de payer nos fusil, quoi, 30% moins cher?

L'import de trucs coute quelque chose, nous ne verrons jamais des fusils d'airsoft au pays avec le même prix qu'à Hong Kong, c'est juste impossible à moins qu'on déménage les sweat shops ici.

L'opinion généralement partagé ici est qu'il vaut mieux se contenter de ce qu'on a (et dans le fond, seul les fusils et certains rares accessoires sont restreint) que de tenter notre chance avec de très mauvaises chances de réussite et de risquer de s'attirer l'attention d'un politicien qui désire scorer des points avec les femmes au foyer.

De toute façon, la prime supplémentaire que nous payons pour nos fusils faut emplement la peine quant on considère que tous les petits enfants de 13 ans qui veulent être cool ne peuvent importer.

Mais bon...

Numero 114 - S Rivard, Number 114 - S Rivard.

Les pétitions en ligne, ça ne fait pas sérieux. Je doute aussi que ceux Ã* qui elles sont destinées les lisent.

Personally I'm all for it. Technically importation is 100% legal. The reason importation is so difficult is because CBSA doesn't want us to have them. I think they should leave the decision to the courts and the RCMP.

You have my signature.

All I can say is that the very bottom line, every one of us who was foolish enough to spend however much money we have so far on this hobby should sign the petition. True similar attempt have been done in the past, which proved useless, but how else can we make a difference? At the very minimum, if everybody, I mean everyone, signs the petition, will we not see what our strenght really is as community? How the hell will the politicians every take us seriously if we do not look DETERMINED and have some kind of CONSISTANT SOLIDARITY? The lesson here is that we TRY and TRY until we succeed-as a SOLID COMMUNITY!

+100000000

And I was beginning to wonder if anyone else felt like this.

+1 for solidarity.

Because there are Idealists and Realists, fortunately there ARE realists here and they've been around longer.

Idealy we could all order what ever we wanted at any time.

Realisticly, we can't because there is fear of the items we wish to order by the GREATER public.

Idealy, people WOULD just see that its a clean honourable sport.

Realistically, there are a lot of young people that cheat, cause issues, and otherwise try to make short cuts for everything they see that get into our sport. One rotten apple kills the tree.

Idealy, airsoft could be very cheap, and played every weekend.

Realistically, if it gets TOO cheap MORE people that may not yet have the maturity will enter the sport and we get more hog wash. Also people have to work, that means we miss weekends time to time.

Idealy, women would always be nude, beer would be plentiful, and no one would ever get fat...

Realistically, every man would get bobbeted, beer costs money, and makes you fat...




Anyone got that ASC monster picture?

10 years and the same shit....over and over again.

Nothing changes.

Le airsoft est un sport vraiment fantastique et je crois que nous devons démontrer que les canadiens aiment ce sport. Tout comme le Paintball, les canadiens vont devoir montrer Ã* leurs dirigants qu'ils veulent vraiment jouer Ã* ce sport. La seul façon de le faire s'est de nous faire entendres... Une pétition est justement une très bonne façon de le faire !!! Si vous croyez que nos efforts ne donnerons rien, c'est que vous ne croyez pas en l'avenir de notre sport au pays. Si tout les canadiens qui pratiquent le airsoft travaille de concert, il est fort possible de faire avancer les choses et de permettre une meilleure accessibilité aux équipements. De beaucoup, le Paintball ressemble eux aussi Ã* des armes réel, et il son l'égale au canada alor je ne vois vraiment pas pour quoi nous, nous ne pourriront pas avoir droit Ã* notre liberté d'achat et d'importation de l'encreur de type airsoft... Moi je suis sure que nous pouvons réellement faire quelque chose pour notre sport et j'entend bien me battre pour que nous puissions pratiquer le airsoft en toute légalité Ã* travers tout le Canada. Je ne veux pas vous forcer Ã* être du même avis que moi, mais j'ai espoir de vous convaincre. Ensemble, nous avons beaucoup plus de pouvoir. Travaillons tous dans la même direction et nous finirons bien par être récompenser par nos efforts. Moi j'en suis sure, il est possible de faire quelque chose mais moi tout seul, je ne pourrais y arriver. Aidez-moi Ã* faire avancer les choses S.V.P.! Il est grand temps d'obtenir tout le respect que mérite ce sport!



Merci pour votre attention!

Does anyone have that picture of the guy bent over with his head up his ass?

Okay, a loose translation of what you just said SRivard is that you really do not understand the intricate political system that is Canada. A petition simply will not do jack squat.

Paintball ONLY barely got by the skin of its chin, and its very simply because the markers look ridiculous and nothing like real guns.

Now, with out trying to sound anti-Quebec, I simply won't sign any petition voiced in Quebec, for two reasons: 1. Language barrier, I've had the habbit of what I was told and what was written be very different things when I cross the river. 2. Its a Nation with in a Nation and because of this Quebec does not really speak for the whole of Canada.

And lastly, the only way any petition could ever ACTUALLY sway the government, you'd need to get several MP's on it in one political party. Who you gonna get? Block? They're against anything for the whole of Canada. NDP? Taliban Jack doesn't want us to have an army let alone civilians having hunting rifles or even pop-gun. Liberal? They're too busy bailing water with Dion at the helm. And Conservative? HAH The last thing they want to do is push any gun law changes too far, since its the image that they're all gun toting red necks when thats simply not entirely true.

It'll never work, stop wasting time, and lastly, if this was gonna stay Canada wide you'd have translated that last message.

ROFL!!

You need to cross the river more often.....seriously!

qui qui disait que lon avait le droit de parler la langue que lon voulait sur ce forum sans se faire juger....

téka moi jy croit plus

Faut pas juger tout le monde pour un commentaire Alex. Ce genre de commentaire est loin de représenter la majotité. Si il sait pas lire en français et se met des barrière c'est son problème pas le mien. Connaitre 2 langues c'est pas un défaut, loin de lÃ*.

OK after a rough translation and read thru i have a few questions to ask you

why should the canadian goverment allow the importation of realistic looking airsoft guns that could very easily pass off as real steel to an untrained eye just to please a couple hundred to a few thousand hobbyists across the whole country?

if someone put a glock 17 and a airsoft glock 17 next to each other side by side and brought you in the room your ten feet away from them and you cant examine them close would you be able to tell the difference? cuz i doubt i could

what does the canadian government have to gain from allowing the importation of replica firearms?

why should the canadian government take a free online petition seriously?

care to take a shot at those for me?

t'inquiète pas blitz..c'est global ce que jai dit mais je généralise pas avec un stupide exemple sa me dépasse c'est tout


Dracheous seriously that tavern talk right there

are you serious ?

Because you are from Ontario, speak english... then you can speak for the whole Canada ... what the f**k, are you alone in this country?

Sincerely, I think you voice a racist point of view that is profundly insulting for me and other folks living in Quebec or speaking French.

So it means any ontarian or manitoban petition is speaking for Canada? Is it true for cities or individuals, as long as they "speak white" and are not from Quebec?

And if Canada "talks", does it talk for Quebec too?

In any case, it seems Quebec people just have to shut their "câlisse de gueule"...

no you don't speak for me I can speak just fine thanks.

I will not sign it
A: it is in french only! how racist an profundly insulting (funny how thats a two way street eh?)
B: it sounds like your only arguement is you want lower prices
C: it has been done before again, again, again and again
D: it is an online petition! no brainer

You need to do your homework before you sign you name away, because history and jurisprudence just totally owned you. The courts DID decide, the RCMP DID give their expert witness - guess who won?
The CFC are just going on what has been ruled, and giving their expert opinion to the CRA on how to handle and classify Airsoft accordingly.

"...because they don't want us to have them..." - my god we're back in grade school.

A: it is in french only! how racist an profundly insulting (funny how thats a two way street eh?)

Good point but i dont think that it was the language part that was the most insulting. Maybe you should reread Dracheous post, its in english so i dont think it will be a problem eh!!

Turning this into a language issue...bad form guys. Truely bad form.

I'm sorry but writting something in french is not racism. Come on! In Canada there are 2 official languages (yes 2!). In the worst case nobody will answer you. But saying that everything that come from Quebec (where more than 80% the population speak french) should be ignored, it is racist!

I don't need to reread it I get what he said, I get what you said. I actually side with neither of you. I was pointing out that both could claim the same thing. Both sides are bringing a language issue into something it needs not be.
and no matter C and D.

the issue here is difinitely not the language...

I kinda agree with that the language is really not an issue.

In fact they are many Quebec ASC members that can read and write in both language. But telling the Quebec members of this community that they have no voice because they dont speak for the whole country thats another story, if you cath my drift.

I profoundly disagree with that. But i agree with the rest of your points. i can also add if im gonna make a petition here on ASC it will be in both english and french.

But no one need to know why peoples dont sign it or about Dracheous life outside ASC, really i dont give a shit. Dont sign it, thats all.

edit : some typos

C'est simple les gars, notre pays a deux langues officielles mais malheureusement ce n'est pas quelque chose qui est compris et accepté par tous.

En ce qui concerne la pétition elle-même, restons logique... çà va prendre plus qu'une pétition faites par quelqu'un que personnes ou presque connaît pour pouvoir faire changer la législation.

As for those english speaking people on here you have to understand that Canada has 2 officials languages and your way of doing things is not gonna get you anywhere. Who cares if french is a minority it was still accepted as one of the country's official language. Being close minded about it is not a problem people on here should have to deal with.