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MagnumPeanut May 14th, 2008 11:57

Anyone have or use an ARMY R85A1 L85
 
I was looking at this rifle and I want one but can't find an affordable one of course. Just wondering if anyone has tried this one. I know its a Chinese knock off but thought it would be worth having one maybe. I read the review for G&G version and it seemed ok.

kalnaren May 14th, 2008 12:07

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=51318

The QC from Army is horrendous. You might get one that will work great and need very little work, or you might get one with a ton of problems. If you read the review at arnies, it appears most of them develope problems over time. If you want it as a project gun it isn't too bad, but for a reliable primary or backup, I would stear clear. For $460 (or whatever shootsoft's price is) it's not bad.. but it's not amazing either. I'm probably going to wait for the ICS one before I get another L85.

PM me if you want specifics on the issues I encountered with mine.

jaymz1911 May 14th, 2008 12:09

Hi, Yup I have a Army R85, it seems to be a good rifle so far... I've had no problems with it... But I haven't gamed it... ;) But I think it could hold up to a beating... Just my 2 cents though.

MagnumPeanut May 14th, 2008 12:13

Is there any news on when ICS may release their version.

kalnaren May 14th, 2008 12:14

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Originally Posted by MagnumPeanut (Post 718130)
Is there any news on when ICS may release their version.

Not for a while. Probably be at least a year before it's available here in Canada.

MrEvolution May 14th, 2008 15:12

Brit ter uses this gun, send him a PM.

pusangani May 14th, 2008 16:14

I've never heard anything about this brand, is it really that bad?

Apoc_ May 14th, 2008 16:33

G'day,
 
I bought one, NIB. Completely dead out of package and the fore end was broken off. I sold it to someone who fixed everything within a couple of hours of owning it. Net result, I would not buy anything Army Armaments without first verifying function personally. Anyone buying an R85 should be aware that they are VERY ass-heavy. Even with the battery up front it's not balanced at all to my liking.

pusangani May 14th, 2008 16:36

woah, i could've grabbed one of these for a good price but the price was a little TOO good i think

kalnaren May 14th, 2008 19:56

If we could get them for the $130 they sell for in the US, I'd say hells yea go for it. The truth is though for the $450-500 you'll pay for it here, you can get a far better gun for the same price. Unless you get one of the ones AA actually manages to assemble correctly. As I said, I wouldn't get it if you want a reliable primary or secondary -but for a project gun that you don't mind putting work into, it's not too bad.

I should probably update my review to reflect this.

pusangani May 14th, 2008 20:01

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Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 718422)
If we could get them for the $130 they sell for in the US, I'd say hells yea go for it. The truth is though for the $450-500 you'll pay for it here, you can get a far better gun for the same price. Unless you get one of the ones AA actually manages to assemble correctly. As I said, I wouldn't get it if you want a reliable primary or secondary -but for a project gun that you don't mind putting work into, it's not too bad.

I should probably update my review to reflect this.


yeah, that brand seems to be on the lower end of the spectrum as far as US prices go, so for someone buying it in-country then they might be better off getting something else

Brit ter May 14th, 2008 22:53

I bought one from Haung ,the only prob. I have with it is the mags not seating tight in the mag well . Other than that she rocks!

Naglfar May 14th, 2008 23:13

My friend is looking to buy this gun, I spoke with him about it and I do believe the Army version makes sense over say, the STAR. It's $600-700 cheaper than the STAR in Canada, and still mostly metal (plus it has the cool bolt cycling which he likes).
So for that huge savings, throw on a new inner barrel, bushings, piston, spring guide and it should probably function just as well as the STAR.
Down the road, you could replace all the internals and end up with something very robust for much less than the cost of a top of the line manufacturer.

kalnaren May 14th, 2008 23:16

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Originally Posted by Naglfar (Post 718627)
My friend is looking to buy this gun, I spoke with him about it and I do believe the Army version makes sense over say, the STAR. It's $600-700 cheaper than the STAR in Canada, and still mostly metal (plus it has the cool bolt cycling which he likes).
So for that huge savings, throw on a new inner barrel, bushings, piston, spring guide and it should probably function just as well as the STAR.
Down the road, you could replace all the internals and end up with something very robust for much less than the cost of a top of the line manufacturer.

I had severe misfeeding issues with mine, seemed to be aggravated by installing a tightbore.

MagnumPeanut May 15th, 2008 10:21

Well. I can get one for $200 new. I am going to make sure they verify its functionality before they ship it I guess. For 200 bones I don't think I can go wrong. I am going to look into what upgrades it will take.

scarletsnake October 25th, 2008 07:58

Dont they test Chinese guns before they ship? I believe the AA L85 is a direct clone of the G&G one. So it should accept the upgrades that you'll require over time.

I'm into pistols, and this'll probably be my first "proper" AEG, so can anyone recommend upgrades to boost the FPS?

Muffin October 25th, 2008 08:24

China's quality control is far worse then Japan. I'm sure most are tested, but that still doesn't mean you won't get a lemon.
Just because some manufactuers say its a 'clone' doesn't mean it is, however mechboxs are usually safe to say so.
Get a tighter spring, and metal bushings if it requires, chances are the stock battery isn't too good either. Most likely it will need to be shimmed and regreased so if you don't know what your doing, send it to someone who does.

Lerch October 25th, 2008 09:13

The only problem I had with mine was a weak spring and mag release. Get yourself a tighter spring and weld a guard around the mag release and you should be good.

Also plan on binning the battery, it wears out pretty quick.

kalnaren October 25th, 2008 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarletsnake (Post 847792)
Dont they test Chinese guns before they ship? I believe the AA L85 is a direct clone of the G&G one. So it should accept the upgrades that you'll require over time.

I'm into pistols, and this'll probably be my first "proper" AEG, so can anyone recommend upgrades to boost the FPS?

I wouldn't recommend it for a first gun. I spent ever a month trying to get mine to work reliably, and eventually said fuckit and traded for a nice reliable TM MP5.

As I've stated numerous times in this thread, if you want a project gun to put work into, by all means get an AA L85. Otherwise, spend the money on something more reliable.

Also, before doing any modifacations on it, unless you are really familiar with AEG's have a read of the thread at Arnies.

dempss4 October 25th, 2008 18:43

i need help finding a gun. can someone give me the best retailer?
thanks

TokyoSeven October 25th, 2008 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by dempss4 (Post 848040)
i need help finding a gun. can someone give me the best retailer?
thanks

The best retailer is this website.
However its buy and sell section can only be accessed if you are the age of 18 or over and have completed a process called age verifacation. Please see this link in order to find out how to get verified.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=49408

ShortCut October 25th, 2008 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 847829)
I wouldn't recommend it for a first gun. I spent ever a month trying to get mine to work reliably, and eventually said fuckit and traded for a nice reliable TM MP5.

As I've stated numerous times in this thread, if you want a project gun to put work into, by all means get an AA L85. Otherwise, spend the money on something more reliable.

Also, before doing any modifacations on it, unless you are really familiar with AEG's have a read of the thread at Arnies.

Do you have the link to Arnie's review? Im searching on the site, and I can't find it.

scarletsnake October 25th, 2008 19:30

So should I wait another month or so and buy the STAR version?

wgc has STAR guns half the price, is there anything wrong with their products?

Conscript October 25th, 2008 19:32

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Originally Posted by scarletsnake (Post 848061)
So should I wait another month or so and buy the STAR version?

wgc has STAR guns half the price, is there anything wrong with their products?

Haha Snake, if you order from anywhere but within Canada your gun will get seized, get verified and check our classifieds for L85's.

kalnaren October 25th, 2008 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShortCut (Post 848058)
Do you have the link to Arnie's review? Im searching on the site, and I can't find it.

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...&t=109921&st=0

You need to be logged in on arnies to view it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by scarletsnake (Post 848061)
So should I wait another month or so and buy the STAR version?

wgc has STAR guns half the price, is there anything wrong with their products?

Please head over to the FAQ section of the forum and have a good long read. In a nutshell, you can't order guns from outside of Canada, which is why they are so expensive here. Note that many retailers WILL ship to canada, the gun will just get seized by CBSA. If a foreign retailer tells you they can ship here no problem, it's bullshit. They can't.

The classified section on this forum is the best (pretty much the only) source of airsoft guns in the country. In order to access it, you must meet in person with a representative from this website and show photo ID proving you are at least 18 years of age. For more information, please see the Age Verifacation thread in the FAQ section.


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