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grimreefer June 4th, 2008 21:20

Where do you play CQB?
 
Like the titles says, I'd like to know how you guys play your indoor CQB games.

I'd love to be able to rent out a warehouse or something where we could get together for some battles. Anyone ever do something like that?

Muffin June 4th, 2008 21:23

Xtreme Tactics here in Winnipeg.

Jiggiwatt June 4th, 2008 21:29

Out East we have 'the Mill' which is basically an abandoned paper mill. It's VERY big. I'd be curious to know what the square footage is. There's 2 stories of offices, and 2 other floors of very large rooms and off to one side is a paintball area. It's about 200 meters x 150 meters for 2 floors + basement (not used) and about 80 metres x 150 metres for the top 2 floors which is the office space.

Here's some pics :http://www.pbase.com/chef40/cure&page=all
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=53998

And video :

YouTube - The Mill Febuary 16/08

grimreefer June 4th, 2008 22:34

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Originally Posted by Jiggiwatt (Post 735072)
Out East we have 'the Mill' which is basically an abandoned paper mill. It's VERY big. I'd be curious to know what the square footage is. There's 2 stories of offices, and 2 other floors of very large rooms and off to one side is a paintball area. It's about 200 meters x 150 meters for 2 floors + basement (not used) and about 80 metres x 150 metres for the top 2 floors which is the office space.

Here's some pics :http://www.pbase.com/chef40/cure&page=all
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=53998

And video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4rrhTnMuqM

That's awesome! Do you guys have the permission of the property owners?

Bowers June 4th, 2008 22:46

to the best of my knowledge no cqb stuff out here in the maritimes:(

Moderate June 4th, 2008 23:04

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Originally Posted by grimreefer (Post 735109)
That's awesome! Do you guys have the permission of the property owners?

The owner usually attends games as an admin, but sometimes I think he even plays :)

Awesome indoor field, well worth the 2hr drive to get there from Ottawa.

TokyoSeven June 4th, 2008 23:17

We have a couple of places to play CQB in Melville Sask, a school and a hospital. Both Run by Camogames.

jameskersten June 4th, 2008 23:25

Nothing available that I am aware of here in Victoria. There was one person who played with us once mentioned he had something lined up but we haven't heard anything since.

BBS June 4th, 2008 23:34

Here in BC, there was a decommissioned ferry, in which we can play on. Right now, there is an indoor area to play games in Richmond, BC. That place is called AK and it was originally for paintballing. The owner is trying to get the license to change it to an airsoft area. Not sure if AK is open yet... Finally I've heard of some place in the lower mainland where you can play cqb in a tower?

grimreefer June 5th, 2008 00:39

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Originally Posted by jameskersten (Post 735151)
Nothing available that I am aware of here in Victoria. There was one person who played with us once mentioned he had something lined up but we haven't heard anything since.

Okay, so then what's the plan for getting one? :D

TokyoSeven June 5th, 2008 00:52

I had always considered the idea of renting a warehouse to play, splitting the costs with others. If there was a large enough population of airsofts it would be considerable, however for me in my city its not. Cost of renting was the smallest of the issues though, approaching anyone with a proposal to rent and then attempting to explain to them the premise on which why you want to rent it can sometimes get you a flat out no as well. One can only imagine what can happen in airsoft, walls get broken,, windows get shot up,other stuff gets shot up....in some instances even blown up. After that theres insurance. Thats what really put me off, I checked with a few brokerages in regards to setting up insurance for something like that and they refered me to a small handful of companies that specialise in insurance for things like airsoft, but well more specifically paintball. We reviewed policeys and coverage and the recommended liability was suggested to be 5 million at minimum. Total cost for a year was over 3000 dollars. Sure you can skip over insurance, but you never know what can happen. The guys you play with may seem like a good bunch that would never sue you for anything but all that can change when someone loses a testicle...or a spleen.

six4 June 5th, 2008 01:03

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Originally Posted by BBS (Post 735158)
Here in BC, there was a decommissioned ferry, in which we can play on. Right now, there is an indoor area to play games in Richmond, BC. That place is called AK and it was originally for paintballing. The owner is trying to get the license to change it to an airsoft area. Not sure if AK is open yet... Finally I've heard of some place in the lower mainland where you can play cqb in a tower?


the kill tower you speak of was in abbotsford b.c. due to safety issues and some health issues the games at this location were quickly abandoned. this was over two years ago. after the kill tower there was the ferryboat here in mission b.c. it is the decommisioned "queen of sidney" that ran for the better part of a year and a half. there are still sporadic battles at this location but nothing like it used to be.

here are two of my videos from the most recent games i ran at the ferryboat.

day game:
http://files.filefront.com/rainbowsi.../fileinfo.html

night game:
http://files.filefront.com/fear+of+t.../fileinfo.html


the ferryboat has its fair share of health issues. sadly due to black mold,mildew,and general dry rot this is the only way i can be on the ferryboat for any length of time.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e258/six4/mask.jpg

like i said ,games are still held here but they are few and far between.


as far as i know there are no other cqb areas in my region.

grimreefer June 5th, 2008 01:13

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Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 735209)
I had always considered the idea of renting a warehouse to play, splitting the costs with others. If there was a large enough population of airsofts it would be considerable, however for me in my city its not. Cost of renting was the smallest of the issues though, approaching anyone with a proposal to rent and then attempting to explain to them the premise on which why you want to rent it can sometimes get you a flat out no as well. One can only imagine what can happen in airsoft, walls get broken,, windows get shot up,other stuff gets shot up....in some instances even blown up. After that theres insurance. Thats what really put me off, I checked with a few brokerages in regards to setting up insurance for something like that and they refered me to a small handful of companies that specialise in insurance for things like airsoft, but well more specifically paintball. We reviewed policeys and coverage and the recommended liability was suggested to be 5 million at minimum. Total cost for a year was over 3000 dollars. Sure you can skip over insurance, but you never know what can happen. The guys you play with may seem like a good bunch that would never sue you for anything but all that can change when someone loses a testicle...or a spleen.

Or an eye.

You bring up a good point. The major obstacle is liability and insurance. A lot of people would not volunteer their property for people to risk injury, without insurance. But $3000 a year doesn't sound terrible.

I'm curious to know if the owner of 'the mill' has insurance of some sort? And what fees are charged to the players, if any?

TokyoSeven June 5th, 2008 01:19

Another hump was approval for insurance as well, just because an application was submitted does not mean it would be approved.

jameskersten June 5th, 2008 07:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimreefer (Post 735201)
Okay, so then what's the plan for getting one? :D

honestly, we dont have any plans to get one. But if you have something in mind that can match VFGPA grounds in terms of facilties and insurances, etc, have at her and let us know!

Jiggiwatt June 5th, 2008 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimreefer (Post 735242)
I'm curious to know if the owner of 'the mill' has insurance of some sort? And what fees are charged to the players, if any?

I'm not sure the details, but I'm quite sure that he's insured. He runs a paintball field in there as well, so I'd assume that would extend to cover airsoft in the building as well. In terms of fees, it's usually up to whoever organized the event. Typically, it's $20-30. Sometimes there will be a day game and night game where you can do one for $30 and both for $50. Testtube also just ran a game where all the proceeds went to cancer research, and I think we got in excess of $1500.

It's an expensive outing since the field fee+gas money usually puts you at at least $50 if you're one of the folks coming from Ontario...however it's absolutely worth it. I can't imagine there being a better place than the Mill for CQB inside of Canada.

The UK has a castle I think, hence why I just said Canada ;)

Airmax June 6th, 2008 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by six4 (Post 735228)
the kill tower you speak of was in abbotsford b.c. due to safety issues and some health issues the games at this location were quickly abandoned. this was over two years ago. after the kill tower there was the ferryboat here in mission b.c. it is the decommisioned "queen of sidney" that ran for the better part of a year and a half. there are still sporadic battles at this location but nothing like it used to be.

here are two of my videos from the most recent games i ran at the ferryboat.

day game:
http://files.filefront.com/rainbowsi.../fileinfo.html

night game:
http://files.filefront.com/fear+of+t.../fileinfo.html


the ferryboat has its fair share of health issues. sadly due to black mold,mildew,and general dry rot this is the only way i can be on the ferryboat for any length of time.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e258/six4/mask.jpg

like i said ,games are still held here but they are few and far between.


as far as i know there are no other cqb areas in my region.

ah yes, those where my first days of Airsoft on the old ferry. My P90 was awesome to use on that boat, shame that the boat is becoming moldy and unhealthy to play on. But like you said Six, I still hear of games every now and then.
cheers

cratedriver June 6th, 2008 22:45

Last summer a group of us headed up 2 hours north of Pickle Lake to play at an abandoned community called Stirland Lake. With loads of abandoned homes, office building and gymnasium, we had plenty of variation. This year it's going to be just as fun. We've been given permission to play at an abandoned radar base in Sioux Lookout. Too bad there isn't a larger group of people playing airsoft up here or we'd really have a party.

shadowninja June 6th, 2008 23:30

in my basement ... i wish

ShelledPants June 6th, 2008 23:43

Most people in Toronto play CQB games at TTAC3 at the Fighting Arts Collective.

Trayne wr3ck June 14th, 2008 22:57

Winnipeg has an indoor arena called Xtreme Tactics. Its a pretty good setup with a nice range of rental gear and a SICK! showroom. I try to go once per month and it costs between 25-50 dollars for rentals

ThunderCactus June 15th, 2008 00:35

I live in Winnipeg but I'm sick of xtreme tactics super close quarters maze combat. Used to be good but recently it's been a mandatory pistol range so I stopped going a few months ago. Now the only place I play CQB is in MELVILLE!! cause it ROCKS! and its actual CQB in a building, not tag in a tight budget maze.

Nik12 June 15th, 2008 20:04

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Originally Posted by cratedriver (Post 736700)
Last summer a group of us headed up 2 hours north of Pickle Lake to play at an abandoned community called Stirland Lake. With loads of abandoned homes, office building and gymnasium, we had plenty of variation. This year it's going to be just as fun. We've been given permission to play at an abandoned radar base in Sioux Lookout. Too bad there isn't a larger group of people playing airsoft up here or we'd really have a party.

I'm so disappointed I'll be missing that. Preston invited me out to that, but I'm not in Dryden this summer. I didn't even know we had an abandoned Radar base in our area. Balls to my luck.

I think ASC needs a field trip to Combat South over in the UK:
http://www.combatsouth.co.uk/csu/
Bloody nice set up they have there (the woodland site is nice too).

Schwag June 16th, 2008 14:52

Try playing in a bathroom. Wait til someone's pinching a loaf then throw in some goggles and start shooting. They can either wipe fast or run dirty.
This is reason #744 for locking the bathroom door.

Aegiis June 16th, 2008 20:51

Another set of pictures from the Mill in Beauharnois, QC.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...039#post744039

There is also the "basement" part, with little or no lights in some spots, dripping water, "the woyks".

Awesome place to play. 4 stories, so you get a good variation of settings.

DrewMC36 April 20th, 2010 19:10

Do the property owners of The Mill allow under 18 airsofters to play and if so what is the scedule like for games?

Cheers,
Drew

Mitchell12 April 20th, 2010 19:23

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Originally Posted by DrewMC36 (Post 1216158)
Do the property owners of The Mill allow under 18 airsofters to play and if so what is the scedule like for games?

Cheers,
Drew

Do the owners of your local pub allow minors under age in?

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CamoGames April 20th, 2010 20:07

I realize this is a very old thread, but since it's been woken up again, I'll say to the players out west that you will all have another large indoor CQB venue to play in very shortly. Details will be out after my Operation Mason Relic II event in May.

Aegiis April 20th, 2010 20:33

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Originally Posted by DrewMC36 (Post 1216158)
Do the property owners of The Mill allow under 18 airsofters to play and if so what is the scedule like for games?

Cheers,
Drew

Underage ? No. No buts or ifs, just - no.

Start learning to use the forums. There is an Events section. But, for your own benefit, go read the FAQs.

Be patient young padawan, watch and learn. Tough, depending on your age and the way you behave, you "MIGHT", with an adult parent attending, be allowed to take pictures during games.

And then, that is if the organiser says it's ok.

pusangani April 20th, 2010 22:08

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Originally Posted by Mitchell12 (Post 1216166)
Do the owners of your local pub allow minors under age in?

but what if they're real mature tho? :rolleyes:

Hortons Heros April 20th, 2010 22:30

There is a roller skating arena that let's us rent, before that was an old elementary school gym that belonged to the kinsmen. Rent is usually around $130 per night 7pm till whenever we leave. They let us store our ply wood walls there between games.

JOHNUSA April 20th, 2010 23:17

OFS plays here www.battlefrontpaintball.com and we hosted an event in a school in 2008. Since then a few old prisons have become available. One was the place they filmed shawshank redemption in.. but my favorite is Operation Irene at zussman training facility in ft knox :fro:

Styrak April 21st, 2010 02:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamoGames (Post 1216208)
I realize this is a very old thread, but since it's been woken up again, I'll say to the players out west that you will all have another large indoor CQB venue to play in very shortly. Details will be out after my Operation Mason Relic II event in May.

OooooOOOOOOOooooohhh. Can't wait to hear the news!

DrewMC36 October 26th, 2010 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 1216295)
but what if they're real mature tho? :rolleyes:

Instead of asking anything else i'll just shut up and admit it was a stupid question.

Boris the Blade October 26th, 2010 19:55

I love how no one mentioned CQB Paintball in toronto, its a pretty awesome field, two stories, stairs, ladders, Tactical shields. Not to mention changes in lighting and adjustable obstacles.

pusangani October 26th, 2010 20:02

Isn't the indoor cqb paintball closed tho

coach October 26th, 2010 20:02

because it's a necro of a necro.

last I heard CQB Toronto Indoor is no longer or soon to be no longer.

Daiviet October 26th, 2010 20:21

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Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1338973)
because it's a necro of a necro.

last I heard CQB Toronto Indoor is no longer or soon to be no longer.

any idea on what caused the closure?

coach October 26th, 2010 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daiviet (Post 1338985)
any idea on what caused the closure?

nadda. I won't start a rumor as my information isn't 100% fact.

Boris the Blade October 26th, 2010 21:09

The rent was too high to keep both fields, so they closed the indoor field. I know this because I worked there. As for the outdoor field closing, I didn't hear anything about that.

pusangani October 26th, 2010 23:25

Nobody said anything about the outdoor field closing.

Heard the building was sold for condo development.


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