JG doing KREBS AK
 

I think I just puked in my mouth a little. It's soooo....un-AK like. Like, the bastard child of a Valmet and a G3. Ewwwww.

http://www.gunnerairsoft.com/catalog...oducts_id=1137

Another AK armalite wannabe.

oh please god no

quick hide it before amos sees! lol

well you know.. atleast they tried.

this is for someone who cant decide between an M4 and an AK

i like it.

Looks sort of like an INSAS to me. And i wouldnt be too afraid of Amos, wait till ancorp sees it he's gonna murder jg lol. Also wait for all the red propaganda that will be displayed like take the takticool things off my ak.

I've seen worse on an AK.

I dont mind rail systems, but that is just wrong.

+ 1

I'm not a purist nut so I really don't care that an AK "isn't supposed to have aftermarket furniture." It looks functional, and that's ALL that matters. Kudos to JG - this will probably be my next weapon if it becomes available at ShootSoft or on the forums here.

Seeing the "$145.00" tag on it makes me cry.

it would be nicer without the rails

rail=fail

it looks like a hungarian ak, there ugly rifles so is this one.

So what? AK users in Airsoft or real life as suppose to duct tape a tac light to their weapon?

That thing is more railed out than Chris Farley on SNL.

Interesting look, not sure if I like it

lol that is correct sir, personally I prefer black electro tape purely for aesthetic reasons :D

check out this "AK"
http://ak47websites.com/images/syste...18-08-0051.jpg

I think the man with the bottle (or funky foreign grenade) disagrees. He's going to hit the other man, and then he is going to mount a rail on his rifle.

^ I think that's a stick grenade in his hand, maybe he REALLY disagrees with him then lol

Coming from someone with 0 (zero) REAL world tactical experience.

Have you ever tried to reload a weapon (effectively) while holding a tac-light in one hand? Or have you ever tried to control muzzle climb (not that there's any in airsoft, but I digress) whilst using your torch? Nope.

Yeah, goodluck looking for your missing light after dumping a couple of mags....

Shit, this whole "fail" thing is really pissing me off. If you don't know what the heck yer talking about, shut yer noisehole (not directed at pusangani).

grrr. </rant>

Molotov cocktail?

LOL relax kos take some deep breaths :)

armalites might need that shit on them to make them "look" nice but ak's imho do not

+2

i mentioned the electro tape as i was referring to taping my mags together, i don't own any of those neato tactical accessories and I surely would not tape a tac light to my rifle, there's actually no need for a light on it because i dont play in the dark so there is no point really.

LOL...

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. But it's okay. It's only airsoft....

you are correct! The allies during WWII used to call the ones the Germans used "potato mashers" :D

Would look better with a folding skeleton stock :D

maybe I don't, but it was stated as an opinion, I personally do not like armalite type rifles especially the ones with a zillion accessories mounted on them but hey different strokes right? and you're correct it's only airsoft, if u are going for a certain look then ynot have your equipment match the realworld version ;)

I'd use it. I'd stick a rail mounted Launcher on it. And a taclight. And a laser sight. And an Aimpoint. Just to turn heads.

It needs an mp7 mounted to it, with a m203 mounted to the mp7....and maybe another mp7 just to top it off.

Sure.

And if those zillion accessories help you win the fight ? Everything you'd see on a modern fighting rifle (LAM/torch/vert grip/ready mag/optics/BUIS) has a purpose.

But again, this is ASC, where lots of people are eager give their sheep-like opinions, freshly collected from the bandwagon of poop. :)

;)

dude those accessories barely do anything in airsoft, yes they are necessary in the realworld, but when i step onto the field i do not use any of them and i do not find myself getting pwnd because of my lack of accessories

i use ak's I currently own 2.5 (need a gb to complete one) and they shoot plastic bb's just as well as any tricked out armalite can and i can shoot people with it as easily as they can shoot me back, unless the accessories actually deflect bb's then i cannot see their practicality for airsoft use.

Its not an AK, its a Valmet RK type rifle. Stop bitching !

http://world.guns.ru/assault/valmet_95_762.jpg
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Well, RDSs, holosights, etc aid in quick target aquisition. So a tricked out Armalite/AK sporting an RDS may shoot a more well aimed bb quickly (such as if caught by surprise, mostly for CQB). Magnification sights don't have much of a purpose in airsoft, but they are used to check out far away enemies, positions and other distant information which can be relayed back to a team (ofcourse binoculars do this too).

Redi-mag systems allow a person to swap out their mags quicker in a bad situation than some one who has to dig them out of a pouch. That's definately important in a fire fight.

Too lazy to think of other useful RS/Airsoft accessories.

Obviously not all accessories are going to have a use in airsoft, but think about it this way: We paid money to have toy guns that look exactly like real world guns, so why not complement our expensive toys with accessories that you might find on the real world guns. Hell, we could all be out there playing paint ball instead if we didn't care about the awesomeness of being almost soldier. So even though they may not be practical, they kind of fill out the look and add to the game (plus everyone loves upgrading, inside and out).

PS - Legend of Zelda music is epic :)

Actually the scopes that Ive had on all my VSR's were needed :D

Exactly.

Don't forget working silencers! I've noticed that AEG's with working silencers cannot be heard over long distances compared to those without them....

My Madbull HALO makes my PTW almost inaudible. lol.... It's like .. "pufpufpuf".

Kinda cool :p

hey mitlitia, its a dragonov not a ak

whoops! Thanks:D

agreed. I had forgotten about the RDS i used one once and it is very helpful, but i still like the traditional RS look of a bare ak ;)

that first one is sexy, the valmet matrix uses in commando is also nice

According to you, you haven't fired your PTW yet (ever), at least not the last time I talked to you. Did that change in the last couple days?

EDIT: as for the AK - it'd be much more reasonable if it had the AKM stamped receiver and such on it. Milled AKs are rarely "railed".

Methinks JG, just like Cyma, are making lots of different railed AK-47s to get rid of AK-47 parts and move on to something else... perhaps.

That actually doesnt look too bad... hmmm

I find this ironic... Coming from ANOTHER person with zero real world experience...

So Kos, Ever fired anything 7.62? Infact... have you fired ANYTHING at all? The whole "1337 OPERATOR" thing is getting rather old...

THE IRONY. IT BURNS!!!!!

yeah its a 145 its going to be more here but rember it allredy has a metal body so all your really going to need to do is clean up the mech (its jg they just need that clean up) and then a few mags a proper battery and their good to go so yeah the price here will be afordable and very nice.

You're both wrong. It's not even Russian; it's a Romanian PSL. A real SVD had a significant space between the trigger guard and the mag.

PSL: http://www.dragunov.net/romanian_psl.html

Comparison: http://www.dragunov.net/

I'll PSL your FACE.

LEET Operator? Dood, are you on crack?

It's common knowledge that optics will increase your target acquisition speed (sometimes you don't need optics/irons at all depending on range), and thus keeping you in the game longer.

Same with applying REAL WORLD TACTICS. After all, this is a game, where you SHOOT other people with realistic guns. The only difference is they don't die, your wrists/shoulders don't hurt as bad afterwards, and your undies still smell as clean as they did before you heard the first round zip by you.

All I've EVER said, and pushed was that the PURIST ideals are pretty lame, as YOU'RE INSINUATING YOU'D RATHER LOOK COOL, THAN PLAY WELL.

As for the bandwagon bit. It's true. You're just as guilty as anyone else of OVERUSING the term "tacticool". Which in my eyes, is pretty fucking lame. Mainly because everything you've referred to as "tacticool" has had a purpose.

No hard feelings dood, but seriously, don't be so closed minded. It's getting rather old.

Who needs special optics? Who needs sights?
Just carry more ammo and get more religous.

Or catch up with the times, and use optics to that more BB's hit your intended target, thus meaning that either you carry less ammo or you last longer in a game. Makes perfect sense to me. I've never understood the aversion that people have to railed AK's.

I can aim perfect with AK sights.
I beleive it's a matter of preference.
Maybe they help you aim better with goggles on, I know it can be a pain with certain guns.
But I see no need for them an AK's atleast for me, if I needed help aiming I'd think about it.

In my sig is a past 'argument' between Kos and Amos about this, it's something that will go on forever. It's all preference, and I see no reason to why people argue about it.

Exactly. Less shots fired. Position not compromised - and if it is, you'll be able to neutralize the threat quicker.

It's all about efficiency, not the "LEET OPERATOR" bullshit. If you're a "leet operator" as a result, well hey, pat yourself on the back, and masturbate to your reflection. Hell, call your self a "leet hax wizard" if it makes your ***** tingle a little more. But know it was skill, and efficiency that gotcha there.

Anyway, AKs are beautiful guns. I totally understand that. Hell, I have one myself (ICS) -it's sex with whipped cream. However, I'm not going to deny the effectiveness of something, and cry "blasphemy" everytime I see a rail on it. Why, because you're forgetting... it was a tool invented to KILL shit (in the name of survival, power, or allah, it's still a fucking tool), and do it (cost)effectively.

So... w/e. Fock it. Be a whiny bitch about rails. But yer just making a doosh out of yourself.

I personally don't like the LOOKS of rails on an AK, but if you use them to improve your shooting performance, nothing is wrong with that. I myself em investing in an optic for my AKs, but decided to go the honorable way - Soviet POSP in the mail.

That's why there are Russian sights that help with the target acquisition without ruining the beauty of wood and steel.

If you want to streamlined and lightweight be my guest, put that plastic crap, just don't call it an AK-47 after.

Steel and Wood.

it needs some rails on the grip and maybe a railed flash hider lol...I like it.

... Airsoft is a game. The only time "HIGH SPEED TARGET ACQUISITION DEVICE" is useful is in a close quarters game. The BB's we fire travel less than 1/3rd of the speed of real bullets and lose velocity at a VERY high rate comparatively. At most outdoor engagement ranges it's possible to move out of the way of the BB before it hits you.

What I find hilarious are the people who take the simulation sport too seriously.

Your whole "Purist" thing is a pretty bullshit argument. It's rather hypocritical considering having something 100% railed out is for NO OTHER REASON THAN FOR VISUAL LOOKS. An airsoft gun is not something you rely on for survival.

As for the "You'd rather look cool than play well" comment... Funny. I've played for 2 years, and been on the winning team in a competitive league, as well as coming out with the least deaths of the entire league season... What was my 1337 set up? An ancient M16 Vietnam with Iron Sights.

I'm reminded of a previous comment that I've read from you that was referring to an accessory made for an airsoft gun, it went something along the lines of "It was made by a real operator so it must have a purpose." Yea. It must. The purpose it so suck in HIGH SPEED OPERATORS like yourself that are willing to fork over a couple hundred dollars for a mass produced product with some one's name slapped on it.

No hard feelings, but I think you need to play a little more airsoft and spend less time stroking your PTW in preparation for the zombie take over.

Hey, sorry if looking, and "moving" authentically doesn't stroke your boat. But I personally think that hose fests are fucking lame. And quite frankly, the whole "I've been on the winning...blahblahblah.." doesn't mean shite to me.

Can I ask you a serious question, 1337 7yp1n9 4510E ? Where the fuck do you see any rails on ANY of my guns? lol. I run a PTW with an EOTech (getting a rail for a torch, and vert grip... ) and an AK74! lol.

Also, the reason why I'd get parts from a well known company is for 3 reasons. (Try to follow along)

1) Reliability.
2) Know-how.
3) Customer Service.

Not because their marketing ploy was indeed a good one, or because they had sexy half naked chicks flashing their (the company's) products in their ads (which kinda falls into the last category, but it's very noteworthy). It's simply because it WORKS. Much like why you bought a TM clone, and have a raging illogical hard-on for AKs. The Design WORKS.... therefore, you'll buy it, use it.

And, believe it or not, I bought the PTW simply because of reliability, and the fact that it's 1:1 with the RS. Kind of a selling point considering my next move, n' all.

Anyway, moving on .... The Zombpocalypse is infact coming, and I'd like to be ready for it. I guess you're okay. You can hide behind Bob The Angry Potato's Meat .... ;)

I sense allot of hostility here....

Believe it or not, there's none.

Believe it or not, I was talking sarcastically :D

:) You speak alot for some one who's "AUTHENTIC EXPERIENCE" is an airsoft IPSC event.

You in fact don't run anything. You don't play airsoft.

Why own a gun for "Reliability" when you don't use it? Airsoft =/= training tool.

"YOUR FIRING DOWN RANGE, YOUR FIRING DOWN RANGE, YOUR WEAPON STOPS! WHAT DO YOU DO?

uuh.. check to see if my battery is charged?"

When the zombie apocalypse comes, I'll hop on my flying pig and lance them all with my unicorn's horn. :rolleyes:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5...ire2005dr6.jpg


So yeah, i prefer the wood and rust AK like Amo creates... looks freaking sexy. But if i had to rely on one in a fight, i prefer the modern one's :)

Who says I don't use it?

lol... I'm pretty sure Alex (who's briefly seen my shooting), Mat, and the people who were AT the CAPS event can attest to my shooting (kinda sloppy at the time, but was decent none the less).

Clearly you're just trying to pull whatever bullshit can.

I've already made my point. A few times, infact. You're free to carry on in your feeble attempts at insulting/discouraging. It's rather entertaining to see ya spout shit you think you know.

Meatgazer. :p

This quote alone proves I'm correct.

Correct about what?

lol... What have I said that ISN'T valid? Give me ONE example.

See KOS, you are a bad influence on Amos.

So i want a Dragunov... who will make one that doesn't cost $1000ish outside canada:D
(No this is not a wtb post)

Why in the HELL would you want that?

You'd only bitch, and cry about how heavy it is.... :rolleyes:

You can't make a Dragunov with AEG parts. 7.62X54R Receiver =/= 7.62X39

If you want I could make you an ugly 7.62X39 AK with a long barrel and Dragunov wood... but other than that... you have 2 options that will each cost over 2 grand landed.

Also, this thread has turned from some playful jests into people taking things a little too seriously.

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See previous post from Myself and Amos.

Amos - Yeah the one's i see are like a AK Dragunov... not nice :(

Don't throw shit, if you can't catch it. Simple.

lol this thread is hilarious!

you cannot apply the justification for the RS gun's accessories to airsoft, ok the RDS in a CQB environment maybe, I play cqb almost every other week and I have yet to find a need for one on my gun. I will admit that it does help but it's not like you're gonna get 0 kills without one.

Airsoft AND RS AK's look alot better to me without rails and the iron sights work great for me and the millions of RS ak users worldwide. It might sound cliche when I said that rails are shitty on ak's but jeez this is the internet and it's just MY opinion as for saying that it's sheeplike of me to say so I could say the same thing about the guys who have to have every single detail match the RS but I won't because this is a game and I am not fighting for my survival, I've got tons more but hey noone cares.

I see armalites with all the tactical shit on them that are designed to help the user "portray" their RS counterpart but at the end of the day does it really help them? if it makes them feel that they are better equipped to do the job (shooting plastic pellets in a LARP scenario) then more power to 'em but as for me, I will be fine without that shit on my gun and I will still have as much fun/get as many kills/eat as much plastic as they will.

and when the zombie invasion inevitably comes, I heard that 7.62 is WAY better at dropping them than 5.56 ;)

*witty comment about shit catcher*

Anyway gotta sleep :) I gotta play something called airsoft tomorrow.

Taa taa, It's been fun.


Fuck that shit. It's all about the .22LR

.50 cal for having fun or those BIG zombies.
AKM as just my standard.
RPK = Zombie soup

That'd be my zombie setup.

That's just not a good idea...

You'd be lugging around 13 pounds of RPK, 8 pounds of AKM and 15-20 pounts of .50 Cal... Not including all the seperate magazines and ammunition.

For every 5.56, you can carry 6X .22LR

.22LR is quiet, and WIDELY available (Hell even walmarts in CANADA carry it)

/rant rant rant

But I'll stick to my flying pigs and unicorn lance

there's gonna be big zombies too? I didn't get that memo, how big are we talkin? like mutated to the size of 2-3 zombies big?

D:< !

wtf a zombie/monster with a gun? .22's ain't gonna stop that jus piss him and his minigun/plasmat-whatever it is off even more, are we doomed?!?

I'll stay in my Osprey and spray lead from my mini-gun.

AFAIK no flying zombies, i r winner :D

What about Zombie ANIMALS?! A zombie rhino, elephant, lions, etc....

Yeah. Make sure you pull your head out of your ass before you get on the field. Wouldn't want you running into a tree.

It's worse... :( he sometimes has a rocket launcher |:<
Resident evil Apocolypse has him... He's naaasty.

soo umm what about the zombie dinosaurs? jurassic park meets resident evil?

"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

i agree with u

Did this actually get to 6 pages since I last saw it. Holy crap, guys.

See what ugly AKs like this do to fellow ASCers?! This alone proves AK's shouldn't have rails ;)

Agreed with ancorp. Can we drop the e-peen waving and get back to talking about how ridiculously fugly this gun is?

I don't know what everyone is complaining about. Granted, it's a variant of the AK that does away with the traditional broken nose profile, but whoop-de-do. So they changed the front end, it's still the same internals, and that's all that really matters. I don't know why people complain about minor changes in aesthetics. Just because it's a change from the traditional look doesn't mean that it automatically sucks.

It's not even that bad looking of a gun, kinda reminds me of the Type 89.

I like it and I'd use it except Im not a big fan of AK mags nor the selector switch lol

"The AR'ocracy is but a temporary solution to a permanent problem, forever AKism!"

use a short mag if the length bothers u (hicaps hold 250) and Element makes a selecor switch that can be used with your index finger so you don't have to take your hand off the grip when going from safe/auto/semi, as for going from safe straight to auto what could be better! :D

True but thats too much work lol! Really all I want is a Dragunov :D

lol don't we all, ak and armalite user's alike? I'm working on a DMR project that's ak based but it doesn't have a RS equivalent but it'll be functional, if only dragunov parts were more available in airsoft :(

I was going to pick up a JG Dragonuv (really just an AK47 with SVD parts, still has full auto option lol) but I picked up my SAM-R instead because I heard that upgrading a JG SVD is really hard....

lol not hard, just time/money consuming to find all the parts etc and then putting them together and hoping they work :D

whereas the SAM-R was already the way I wanted it! Sad part is though that the Mosfet/3 shot burst will be going to waste as I would rather have single.... :(

Bahahahah, you totally stole that from me.

CHECK THE WIRING TO SEE IF IT'S RIGHT.

Also, here's a complimentary 'I HAVE NO BATTERIES, EXTRA BBS, PYROTECHNICS OR PARTS THEREOF IN MY POSSESSION, SIR'.

I kind of like that AK, oddly. If they made a shorter one...