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Ronan July 29th, 2008 22:32

WWII US Airsoft Guns
 
What kind of WWIIish US airsoft guns are available? And i mean more or less available, not the 'well i think theirs 1-2 of them for sale in the whole world' kinda thing.

Doesn't matter if its electric, cocking or gas powered.

I sure as hell wouldn't mind a nice M1 Garand gas powered though :D

This posts is aimed more toward the WWII players, to see what they use and what is available.

pusangani July 29th, 2008 22:38

there's the kar98 gbb rifle, gas and electric powered MP40's and Thompson sub-machine gun AEG's as far as i know

Drache July 29th, 2008 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 781328)
there's the kar98 gbb rifle, gas and electric powered MP40's and Thompson sub-machine gun AEG's as far as i know

Kar98's and MP40's were German, he asked for U.S. :D

Boche July 29th, 2008 22:40

http://www.ontarioairsoftwwiireenactors.com/forum/

Look around in there.

Ronan July 29th, 2008 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by memel (Post 781330)

Thx mate!

pusangani July 29th, 2008 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache (Post 781329)
Kar98's and MP40's were German, he asked for U.S. :D

lol missed that part, 1 out o 3 ain't bad right?

Styrak July 29th, 2008 22:51

M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, Thompson, Grease Gun (I think?), and I think I've run out.

Drache July 29th, 2008 22:55

wasn't the grease gun mostly british?

Ronan July 29th, 2008 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 781342)
M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, Thompson, Grease Gun (I think?), and I think I've run out.

Any brands though? Nice avatar:D

Drache July 29th, 2008 23:02

Thompson M1A1:
Airsoft Surgeon
Tokyo Marui

M1 Garand:
Marushin
Smokey's
There was also a kit to turn an M14 into an Garand

Grease Gun:
Hudson (GBB)

MrEvolution July 29th, 2008 23:07

Hudson makes the grease gun, but it is considered mostly garbage.

Jiggiwatt July 29th, 2008 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache (Post 781346)
wasn't the grease gun mostly british?

Nope, not that I know of.

I'd give my left nut for a Lee Enfield SMLE MKIII or No.4 MkI. A Bren or BAR would be pretty swank as well. I think I've seen a Bren before, but I don't know who makes it.

Drache July 29th, 2008 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrEvolution (Post 781357)
Hudson makes the grease gun, but it is considered mostly garbage.

Yeah I edited my post just before you replied.

There are also:

1897 Trench Gun (aka shotty):
tanaka

1911 (of course):
TM
WA
etc

Browning High power:
tanaka

springfield:
KTW

BAR:
Jac

Sten:
Jac
Smokey's

It was the Sten that I was thinking about, had it mixed up with the M3

ujiro July 29th, 2008 23:16

thompson m1a1 just went up in the for sale -electric forums. good price too... go for it!

KNIVEZS July 29th, 2008 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by ujiro (Post 781367)
thompson m1a1 just went up in the for sale -electric forums. good price too... go for it!

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=64237

Strelok July 29th, 2008 23:17

Edit : Late post, Already answered :)
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Lakonian July 29th, 2008 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache (Post 781346)
wasn't the grease gun mostly british?

Nope. It was made by General Motors, as a quick fix on weapon shortage.. IIRC...

Drache July 30th, 2008 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 781425)
Nope. It was made by General Motors, as a quick fix on weapon shortage.. IIRC...

people need to learn to read ALL the posts :D

If you go back you'll notice I had the Sten mixed up with the Grease Gun.... http://www.airsoftcanada.com/images/...s/rolleyes.gif

Ronan July 30th, 2008 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache (Post 781428)
people need to learn to read ALL the posts :D

If you go back you'll notice I had the Sten mixed up with the Grease Gun.... http://www.airsoftcanada.com/images/...s/rolleyes.gif

KOS doesn't read, he just trolls:D

Thanks for the info guys, i'll do my HW on them and see what i'm adding to my collection :)

Drache July 30th, 2008 00:02

Hudson are junk and so are Jac from what I've read. Smokey's Garand runs you about $1500 USD...

Tex July 30th, 2008 00:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache (Post 781431)
Hudson are junk and so are Jac from what I've read. Smokey's Garand runs you about $1500 USD...

:confused: riiiight.

Drache July 30th, 2008 00:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex (Post 781447)
:confused: riiiight.

Im going by reviews I had read on an WWII airsoft forum... maybe they meant just the BAR and Sten since they only ever talked about WWII type airsoft guns....

Luckless July 30th, 2008 09:39

One of the great things about WWII weapons is most of the ones that saw wide spread usage were ones that were designed to be made easily, with a minimum of tooling. Anyone with a small shop and a bit of knowledge should be able to make a decent copy of one if they can get the proper measured drawings and stuff. Mags would likely be a pain however.

That said, if anyone comes across detailed scale drawings of exteriors for the different models of .30 cal, Bren, FG42, or Sten, let me know. (I'm not liking reverse engineering a .30 cal from photos and incomplete drawings.)

Lorden July 30th, 2008 10:38

Somebody posted a thread saying that there were autocad drawings available for a .30 cal for 20$. Some guy was making them and now only makes .50 cals, and made his .30 cal drawings available for a small fee. I lost the URL though, or I would've bought some already for my GF who's an autocad specialist in steel structures.

Danke July 30th, 2008 10:50

I think the most reasonable choice would be the TM Thompson. It would work for a US solider, a Brit one, and if you get bored with WWII it turns into a pulse rifle.

There are threads on Arnies Airsoft with some hand built weapons of that vintage. I don't know about how "easy" they are to replicate though

Weapons like the Bren, the Thompson, & both Browning machine guns were first made in a time when gunsmith was an artist vs. an assembly line worker. The M3 grease gun and the Sten were a bit sloppier but still getting one to the point where you'd be happy to be seen with it could be a long road.

And then of course there's the inevitable risk that when you build a firearm someone may drop by and arrest you.

Gunk July 30th, 2008 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke (Post 781712)
I think the most reasonable choice would be the TM Thompson. It would work for a US solider, a Brit one, and if you get bored with WWII it turns into a pulse rifle.

I got bored of WWII after CoD3... what'll help with that? :p



Personally, I'd love a Garand as well... the Kar98 is a pretty piece also. And the Tommy... well... c'mon, it's an icon!

Cassius July 30th, 2008 13:22

VFC makes a fucking nice BAR.

I wish someone would make a PPSh41.

Brian McIlmoyle July 30th, 2008 13:25

the Grail
 
is the Lee Enfield .... I simply can't figure out why no manufacturer has made a replica..

why? ... who do I need to talk to?

Drache July 30th, 2008 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 781916)
is the Lee Enfield .... I simply can't figure out why no manufacturer has made a replica..

why? ... who do I need to talk to?

There is one, I think Smokey's makes it but Im not 100% positive...

Andres July 30th, 2008 13:31

I know some British folk (can't remember the webpage right now) were off making sten's and bren's and enfield's. Someone else here can elaborate on that, but this is US weapons so I digress.

M1A1. I find it's the shit, and don't you?
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/10/40256755ik8.jpg

Lawdog July 30th, 2008 13:38

I either have or have had most of the guns that are being discussed. I didn't read the entire thread that thoroughy, but I think you may have missed the M2 gas carbine, which is an absolute hoot.

The 8mm gas garand is a great replica but it has a small clip that pops out when you are finished firing that would be easy to loose which makes it iffy for fielding. You can also get a kit to convert an M14 into a Garand from a number of different sources.

The M3A1 Grease Gun is also a lot of fun. The weight is strange and it shakes like an epileptic, but that is just realism. With the upgraded spring and inner barrel it is not half bad. Just don't expect long range accuracy.

The Thompson tends to be the AS workhorse for WWII allied guns.

Ld

Messy July 30th, 2008 20:57

There is a full section of classic rifles in this website ~

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...tegory?menu1=4


I dont know the shipping rules from Europe/hong kong to Canada because i live in the us.

Drache July 30th, 2008 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messy (Post 782305)
There is a full section of classic rifles in this website ~

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...tegory?menu1=4


I dont know the shipping rules from Europe/hong kong to Canada because i live in the us.

Damn near impossible unless you order through a retailer and pay the 300% or more markup :D

Lorden July 31st, 2008 16:20

Here is the link I was talking about earlier:

http://www.air-sharp.com/hey19.htm

Custom autocad drawing to make your very own .30 cal

Ronald Chang July 31st, 2008 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 781916)
is the Lee Enfield .... I simply can't figure out why no manufacturer has made a replica..

why? ... who do I need to talk to?

KTW made one. But very expensive and hard to find.

AzPete August 1st, 2008 01:14

Orphus Socom
 
I recently purchased an After Math Orphus Socom which is close to the look of the M-14. I'm realatively new to soft air and an old phart to boot. I trained with the M-14 back in the early 1960's when I was in the military.

I'm extremely pleased with the Orphus Socom. Accurate right out of the box and after plinking with it 2 to 3 times a day in the back yard I have had no problems to date with it. I would like to find more information on it, like a schematic would be nice. It came with a minimal amount of instructions and very little useable information. If anyone has an info they could pass along, I sure would appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

Pete

http://www.aftermathairsoft.com/imag..._orphus_cs.jpg

Drache August 1st, 2008 01:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzPete (Post 783478)
I recently purchased an After Math Orphus Socom which is close to the look of the M-14. I'm realatively new to soft air and an old phart to boot. I trained with the M-14 back in the early 1960's when I was in the military.

I'm extremely pleased with the Orphus Socom. Accurate right out of the box and after plinking with it 2 to 3 times a day in the back yard I have had no problems to date with it. I would like to find more information on it, like a schematic would be nice. It came with a minimal amount of instructions and very little useable information. If anyone has an info they could pass along, I sure would appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

Pete

http://www.aftermathairsoft.com/imag..._orphus_cs.jpg

The Orphus still isnt available in Canada....

DoomBringerGeneral August 3rd, 2008 03:24

ww2airsoft.com

arman August 3rd, 2008 03:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoomBringerGeneral (Post 784873)
ww2airsoft.com

hehe i thought you were talking about a site that claimed to make ww2 airsoft guns here in Canada.... that was a good joke for bout a month...who was it that almost bought a gun from them and kept getting pic updates???

back to the site..as i play a german (cause i think it camoflauges me perfect where i play) i saw this and thought it was funny...

Do your homework, be proactive, this is a very friendly environment, None of the bitter politics that is sadly associated with the Blank firing reenactment communities. That means don't go to the boards to start fights, if you do, you will be banned instantly. Use common sense. Be a good sport, and remember, WW2 is OVER! The people who reenact German soldiers are NOT racist supremacists hell bent on ruining the world. WE DO NOT ALLOW RACIST OR MILITANT IDEOLOGY IN OUR ORGANIZATION!

whats funny is that the german team here in windsor shows up in a VW jetta hehe


edit: found the thread....

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...ht=ww2+airsoft

man it took a bit because i couldnt figure out how to spell mariposa....

aZn_triXta07 March 4th, 2009 16:50

I've been eyeing this thing since I started playing WaW.

Too bad the mechbox is an AGM.

SGS Custom Airsoft PPSH-41

C'mon people isn't it SEXY!?

If only there was a GBB version :(

OKAY fine it's not U.S. but still WWII :D

Amos March 4th, 2009 19:29

Oh my god. I want a PPSH badly...

But... I'm not buying anymore airsoft guns... lol I'm almost over the bug... (yea right.)

666 March 4th, 2009 20:31

I'm wondering for a while now. Why the hell there is no mass produced PPSH AEG. That thing can be used for WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Insurgent, hell, even Russian mob :) and a bunch of other impressions.
aZn_triXta07, AGM mechbox is not that bad, my MP40 works fine. I don't like the idea of using build-in hicap but otherwise it looks like a great gun. Too bad price tag is high.

G.I. Joel March 4th, 2009 20:55

that's pretty badass, they even sell the conversion kit themselves for the DIY in all of us!

pipefitter316 March 4th, 2009 21:24

no the grease gun was american it was a simple easy to make weapons that was mass produced like the british sten gun.
it called the m3.

aZn_triXta07 March 4th, 2009 21:39

Yeah it's really pricey. I remember a local here built one out of a de-activated one I think, it was a few years back it was so NICE I fell in love with the PPSH 41 there.

Yeah the built-in hicap is a turn off, there is a classic kit floating around for it but there's a hose from the gun to the mag so changing mags would be inconvenient.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 666 (Post 932877)
I'm wondering for a while now. Why the hell there is no mass produced PPSH AEG. That thing can be used for WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Insurgent, hell, even Russian mob :) and a bunch of other impressions.
aZn_triXta07, AGM mechbox is not that bad, my MP40 works fine. I don't like the idea of using build-in hicap but otherwise it looks like a great gun. Too bad price tag is high.


666 March 4th, 2009 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by aZn_triXta07 (Post 932934)
Yeah it's really pricey. I remember a local here built one out of a de-activated one I think, it was a few years back it was so NICE I fell in love with the PPSH 41 there.

Yeah the built-in hicap is a turn off, there is a classic kit floating around for it but there's a hose from the gun to the mag so changing mags would be inconvenient.

That thing was built from model gun or blank firing gun. I'm pretty sure it was Hudson. I had a chance to play around with that PPSH. Probably one of the best AEGs I've ever held. I wonder if it would be possible to import converted dewat. I have a strong feeling that it's impossible :(

Love March 4th, 2009 22:02

The AK47 was used in WW2. There is plenty of those.

Theres also a shell ejecting SKS. (Russian autoloading rifle. Pre-dates the AK)

But you want US guns.
Seems like a tricky one to me.

Tex March 4th, 2009 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lythinca (Post 932951)
The AK47 was used in WW2. There is plenty of those.

Theres also a shell ejecting SKS. (Russian autoloading rifle. Pre-dates the AK)

But you want US guns.
Seems like a tricky one to me.

:rolleyes:

666 March 4th, 2009 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lythinca (Post 932951)
The AK47 was used in WW2. There is plenty of those.

Theres also a shell ejecting SKS. (Russian autoloading rifle. Pre-dates the AK)

But you want US guns.
Seems like a tricky one to me.

AK entered service in 1947 about a year later than SKS.

ancorp March 4th, 2009 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by 666 (Post 932964)
AK entered service in 1947 about a year later than SKS.

AK entered service in 1949. Sorry Vlad ;)

pusangani March 4th, 2009 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lythinca (Post 932951)
The AK47 was used in WW2. There is plenty of those.

Theres also a shell ejecting SKS. (Russian autoloading rifle. Pre-dates the AK)

But you want US guns.
Seems like a tricky one to me.

riiiiiight..just like how putting a bipod and drum mag on an AK47 magically makes it an RPK or some other kind of LMG :rolleyes:

youonlywish March 4th, 2009 22:33

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...3-4342_IMG.jpg

A prototype conversion from a guy at WW2AIRSOFT.

http://www.airsoftbattlezone.com/sgscustomairsoft.html - These guys sell a conversion kit.

There is an entire community built around converting AS guns to fit the 'shells' of older guns. You can literally make anything if you stick to it...

Bowers March 4th, 2009 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lythinca (Post 932951)
Theres also a shell ejecting SKS. (Russian autoloading rifle. Pre-dates the AK)

can one of the russian guys clarify this for me?

now if i read the articles i found on the sks correctly prototypes of the sks were being developed in early 1945 however they werent put into service until 1949 is this correct?

MrEvolution March 4th, 2009 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lythinca (Post 932951)
The AK47 was used in WW2.

Considering the war ended in 1945, and the gun was invented in 1947, You are wrong.

Love March 4th, 2009 23:18

Shit. Your right. I should know. My family is from Zhukovsky, Moskva Oblast (Yet, I was born here, No worries.). Dont let them know, I fucked up. :P

Also, upon browsing the net, a few sources say that the SKS was used in WW2 but it didnt see much action.

666 March 4th, 2009 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCSF-Bowers (Post 933036)
can one of the russian guys clarify this for me?

now if i read the articles i found on the sks correctly prototypes of the sks were being developed in early 1945 however they werent put into service until 1949 is this correct?

I just checked guns.ru SKS did enter service in 49, not in 46 like I was thinking and it was used by certain parts of soviet army all the way up until 80s. I remember seeing guards carrying SKS and Mosin carbines at my mother's work during late 80's. By guards I mean old ladies guarding office buildings and factories :)

Lythinca, according to guns.ru small runs of SKS saw action starting in late 1944. That's something new to me. Gotta love guns.ru :)

Love March 4th, 2009 23:35

Gotta love anything with .ru ;)

Nadezhda Na Zavtra.

CrackShot 07137 March 5th, 2009 11:54

yeah l meet the guy with the ppsh when i bought his stg44- it was sick! He even had a mg34. Dont remember his user name.

kalnaren March 5th, 2009 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrackShot 07137 (Post 933345)
yeah l meet the guy with the ppsh when i bought his stg44- it was sick! He even had a mg34. Dont remember his user name.

I remember this dude, hung out with him at the Wolfpack game last year. Good guy with awesome guns. That PPSH was sex.

Yorkie March 5th, 2009 12:37

That was Douglas/Selousscout.

That PPSH of his was unmistakeble, both in report and RoF. Effing thing was insane and perfect for Douglas, by the time you got the 'H' of HIT!! shouted out it felt like you'd been hit by 30 rounds.

He's headed back to Korea as far as I know, too bad as he will be missed on the WW2 fields.

CrackShot 07137 March 5th, 2009 14:03

yeah thats him- nice guy. Saw a pic of his sweet ss loadout too


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