Which Mask?
 

So I have narrowed several masks down to 2. They are both inexpensive masks that serve the purpose. They are both paintball masks.

One is the V-Force Vantage Pro

http://www.paintball-online.com/pain...size/GGVVP.jpg

The V-Force is $26.95
http://www.paintball-online.com/pain..._GGVVP_BLK_423

The other is the JT Elite Radar

http://www.paintball-online.com/pain...ize/GGJRAD.jpg

JT Elite Radar is $24.95
http://www.paintball-online.com/pain...ck_prod_GGJRAD

Which one should I get. I am leaning more towards the Vantage for looks... but any advice would be appreciated. :)

::EDIT::

Is it a better idea to go with an actual army helmet and just buy goggles? I am just worried about getting hit under the nose and other exposed areas.

if you plan on using your iron sights than neither, the mask hits the stock and you cant line up a shot. get a pair of ESS goggles, and a belaclava(sp?). getting shot in the face doesent actually hurt that much anyways.

Depends how it fits, and how you play with it.

Also "inexpensive" will make your teeth and eyes "expensive".

Or worst where you cannot replace your eyes.

Most people wear ANSI-rated tactical goggles for airsoft, although some paintball fields will require paintball goggles / mask for insurance purposes.

The only other facial thing to worry about is your teeth. A balaclava or even just a mouth guard will often be enough if you're concerned about being shot in the teeth.

I owned a V Force once, great vision ability and most of them will hardly fog.

Go down to a local paintball shop and see if they'll let you try them on.

Ok ... I just saw a few youtube videos and saw people wearing the paintball masks that is why I figured I should wear one of them... and also the ones walmart and that sell are similar to piantball masks but are the airsoft lighter versions (which look cheaper)

So then getting ESS goggles is the way to go? Does it really matter what ESS intended them for? Like the vehicle ... and the fire rescue... ones?

http://www.opticsplanet.net/ess-goggles.html On that website I am looking at them... any particular ones that are decent... I do not have much money right now so I am looking for $50- more or less something around the $30 mark of the masks.

one of these two will do fine. http://www.armysurpluskelowna.com/eyewear.html

Those are insane in price! :D something under $50

how much are your eyes worth?

Oh God, you don't understand, the higher you pay, the less risk you'll lose an eye. The less you pay, the higher risk you'll be blind.

The Vforce ones are more comfortable, and have a narrower cheek area than the JT ones. The JT ones are a "cheaper" model in their line, and I find that the nose foam area isn't a very good fit (for me anyways).

The local fields where I live now require paintball approved goggles for airsoft, tactical ones aren't allowed.

I just figure if a paintball mask at the price of $25 can do the job and most people are buying them... why spend another $80. The only reason why I swapped over to looking at the tactical ones now was because they look better and because I was directed towards them.

And if as previously stated some arena's are only allowing paintball masks... is it not wiser to go with one rather than tactical goggles?

Here is what I am thinking...

Buy either:

MASKS

V-Force Vantage for $26
OR
JT Elite Radar for $24

OR

TACTICAL GOGGLES

priced under $50
something like this: http://www.opticsplanet.net/ess-tact...l-goggles.html

What should I do?

How about a SYKES Airoft mask with some Paintball goggles? Near perfect cheek weld IMO.

Hah, if he can't pay over 50$ for goggles, he won't pay 60 for the Sykes mask. IMO, Sykes masks are fucking awesome!

Ya I took a quick look and they are amazing... but supposedly they are not taking any orders :(

Will you be needing these for paintball, or impromptu backyard airsoft games with your cousin?

Paintball maybe in the future when I earn some more cash... but for now it is all just starting equipment... but I am still trying to future-proof myself. That is why I am wondering about either a mask or tactical goggles.

If you are looking for ESS goggles you can buy it cheap from this guy here on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-GOGGLES-ESS-...1.c0.m14.l1318

I bought my ESS from him and now he offers free shipping to Canada ;)

If you're getting paintball goggles, try to get thermal or dual lens ones. Helps to reduce fogging inside.

dont cheap out on PB masks. get either a Vforce Grill or an Empire E-Vents. they dont fog. SUPER LOW PROFILE, to the point where i can look down my gun sights (including iron) and they looks badass. they are expensive, but worth it.

Ok what do I do? Goggles or Full Face Mask?

V-Force Vantage Pro
$26

ESS Goggles
$35

:banghead:

I don't want to hijack your thread but this might be useful to both of us. Could someone confirm the protection value of those eye protection glasses?

G-C4 Polycarbonate Eye Protection Glasses

No ANSI rating displayed.

It depends on what's important to you:

Go with Goggles / shemagh if:
- you need a tight cheekweld
- you need low profile goggles
- you're not too concerned with lower face / teeth protection
- you're not too concerned with airflow / breathability
- you're allowed to use tactical goggles on a paintball field or wherever you play

Go with paintball approved goggles if:
- where you play require paintball approved goggles
- cheekweld is less important
- don't mind higher profile goggles (most paintball goggles are bigger)
- want to protect your lower face / teeth
- easier to breathe

Since this will the first time your getting eye protection I highly recommend paintball goggles. Only because many airsoft games are held in paintball fields and the majority (if not all of them, at least the ones I've been to) will NOT allow anything but paintball approved goggles (mainly b/c their insurance companies tell them they have to).

Bolles, ESS, etc. goggles may be able to stop a shotgun blast but in the end your going to have to buy paintball approved goggles anyways if you want to play in many of the fields. What I ended up doing was buy some JT Elites and take off the face mask.

He actually won't be allowed in any games because of his age though, so I fail to see the point in encouraging backyard play...

Are you purposely being what your avatar says you are? Watch all the youtube videos on 10 and under children running around with them and shoot your mouth off on them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with somebody my age playing in this sport. Stop thinking so high of yourself because you are over 18. I am more than qualified to be able to play with airsoft, if not more than you, because I lack your quality of causing trouble... but you are right about being concerned about some people under 18 playing. :)Some can be real immature, but stop generalizing.

US =/= Canada, check the origin of these videos.

As far as someone your age playing being wrong, that's not exactly the point.

The point is that since you will not be playing regular games, where will you be playing? Most games are restricted to 18+, therefore as you yourself admitted will have to play in woods.

Now, that I do have a problem with.

My original suggestion still stands, take a few weeks to let the etiquette of this place sink in, instead of doing what every other self proclaimed mature minor has done before you and think before buying guns and gear.

The woods are all on my own family's property which is more than 100acres ... it is not on public property.

And why is this something you should be worrying about... do not be getting into others people lives of what is right and wrong, worry about yourself

Doesn't really matter how much property you have or whether it's private or public. I'm sure the OPP/RCMP/OPD doesn't take kindly to people dressed up as unidentified soldiers with automatic rifles around the nation's capital.

Well that's a larf. You see, I have more or less 10 grand of gear in my house, and kiddies like you who think the world is obligated to provide them with everything who get caught by cops, border patrol or whatever brings my investment one step closer to being declared criminal.

So, in this case, by not wanting to wrap your brain around the etiquette of this board and going out buying guns and playing outside of a controlled setting you are involving yourself in my life.

Besides, think about it. This site has setup an ellaborate age verification to prevent minors from getting their hands on guns and accessories. No one asked us to do this, it's all self regulated. If you think I'm an asshole just wait until the more unfriendly people get here...

I'm not going to do that stupid "+1+ thing and then quote everything that Surebet just said. I will however say this.

Have you spoken with the OPP that patrol the area near your home? Do you have written recognition that all of the officers out of your local detachment (or city) know that you are playing wargames using replica firearms on the property?

People have been surrounded by RCMP ERT teams for sitting on THEIR OWN privately owned land while shooting gophers with .22's. You seem to think that you can do ANYTHING you want while on your own land, and that is simply not the truth.

How high do you want to upgrade your gun? Want to pump it up as fast as possible? 550fps sound good? Great, then we get to deal with you being charged as a criminal for firing a firearm at another human being.

Maybe you're along the fence-line and someone drives by in their pickup truck while seeing a child in camouflage (you) take aim with your 'assault rifle' at another child. They call the RCMP, city police or OPP and suddenly you are fucked up.

You don't seem to grasp how many variables there are to getting yourself (and MY sport) fucked up by some silly actions of yours.

I have 140 acres of field that are in the process of being set up. I have spoken with the three local area detachments and brought in examples (the worst possible/scary looking guns) to show them. Each of the officers at the three detachments know what is happening and there are barriers set up blocking public view (and no, not just 'brush').

So what have you done?

Are you sure about that? I'm the Canadian distributor, and there's several left in stock and ready to ship.

I've used similar Guarder eyewear before and they are comfortable and well suited for airsoft. The construction is very good for airsoft and one of the better airsoft eyewear products you can get.

http://www.intrudershop.com/show_pro...oduct=1055#top

Can you send me the link because I would be interested at looking at them.

here is the link:
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=58440

My whole family has taken precautions... seeing as the majority of the land surrounding the area is either forests or farmers fields... and the owners are known by my family. The land is used as well by everyone in the area as hunting grounds... so maybe not little fake guns like airsoft are shot, more lethal firearms are being shot. The precations are already arranged and never has there been a problem with the locals or police. The local friends, neighbours, family and I, all take precautions when hunting. These precautions are more than enough when dealing with guns that do not even exceed 300FPS as of now.

Firearm accidents are more common after the age of 20. So you may stop putting the blame on people under 18 or "teens" "The largest number of firearm deaths for males were for the age group 20–24 years" Source

Thanks for the link

suprisingly it doesnt as much as you would think it might. now the top of your head is a dif story
id go with the v-force if i had to choose. wal-mart does sell full head masks too