Clear Sig 552
 

So after a few hours of digging, I believe I have found the original manufacturer of these clear 552's. As it has been stated by others in other threads, I believe they are manufactured by Tokyo Marui. The trail I found goes like this:
TM -> Cybergun -> Swiss Arms
This is just what I found, I may be wrong. This is the information I went from, whether it is correct or not remains to be seen.
Airsocom says manufacturer is Cybergun
And ShortyUSA says the TM version is licensed through Cybergun.
If my logic is flawed please feel free to flame, I know I would flame me too.

thanks for the info!

wow - if that's the case then the $220 price tag is quite sweet (for those people that don't freak out about having to paint them)

nice work :)

Made in China. No way in hell it's TM. Sig-licensed? Perhaps, but I doubt it since Chinese aren't knows for playing into copyright / trademark laws. TM-compatible? Definitely. Made by TM? Not a chance in Hades.


And BTW, the one you linked to on shortyusa is a NON-CLEAR TM... Big difference... I think shorty may have just copied a generic description for that gun.

cybergun is an import company which, through legal means, has bought many of the licensing rights to import fully-trademarked airsoft products into the US. the shortyUSA link is for a TM nothing more just a legally trademarked TM it has nothing to do with the clear one. cybergun imports from many manufacturers. this clear one is not TM. TM has already said they will not make clear guns.

To expand on that - they are like Echo 1 in a sense. They accquired licensing rights, and buy these guns from China. They repackage / rebrand them as Cybergun, and resell them.

Echo 1, however, buy up non-branded JG and other Chinese guns, trademark them as Echo 1, do extra QA, and then resell them as Echo 1.

And also as tex stated, TM never has and never will produce clear guns.

its a jg take a look at airsoft gi, they have non clear sig that is swiss licensed. also it has a black gearbox recently found in newer jg products.
just my two cents
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=3984

Echo 1 is one thing, their guns have proven to be above par than the other clones, I've never heard anything good about Cybergun but I do like the Sig 552's looks so if it does turn out to be a good gun, I would consider buying one and giving it the 'ole krylon treatment

Ok so it's not a TM, then is it a JG? JG does have a licensed 552 and the gearbox looks black, could it be true?

Edit: Now I think of it, the FPS of the Swiss Arms is way above the TM, so that doesn't make sense anyway.

Well - even a JG for that price isn't bad. What are the chances that CG or SA does the same sort of QA that Echo1 does with its rebrands? If it were similar, then the deal would still be quite interesting.

Yeah. TMs are usually in the 260-290 fps range... That's WAY too hot to be a TM.

That's because they give extra QA treatment to their JG guns before shipping. And problematic stuff is fixed, they're reshimmed, relubed, etc... Makes a big difference in many cases. In other cases, JG guns are excellent too.

And I woudn't be surprised to find out that it is indeed a JG mechbox in these guns. However, I wouldn't count on it because it's black. DBoys also make non-reinforced black mechboxes. It doesn't take much to spray paint a mechbox.

lol USA has to deal with licensing rights cause they dont want to hurt the feelings of metalica

What?

Cyber guns's licensed Swiss Arms Sig 552 clear, is made by JG.

I will be carrying this clear JG 552 as well.

Ken

The one I ordered at AIRGUNSOURCE just arrived at my door today.

On the box, it's clearly written:
PRODUCED BY CYBERGUN SA - BP87 Bondoufle - France
Distributed in the USA by:
SOFT AIR USA Dallas (Tx)

I went to the workshop to do some mods on it. First,it's 100% TM compatible (I used to have the TM version). Beside some flaws in the plastic parts (minor), it's a well done AEG.

- Flashhider is -14mm but it's plastic
- Metal outer barrel, sights, trigger...
- NiMH 1100mAh 8.4v with wall charger
- Cheap sling
- 300 Low quality BBs
- The markings on the body are not genuine
- Black GB and unknown motor (Looks like a JG)

Didn't pass it on the chrony but it seem to have a hard punch.
http://www.felixtactik.com/images/sg55201.jpg

Cybergun is an importer that rebrands other guns. They actually don't play very nice either -they like to sue other importers to try and get them shut down. Cybergun does not make any guns of their own.

If this SiG is a JG, I might be forced to get one some day....

it's a bit off-topic, but what are the 'plus' of the sig compared to say, an m4 or an AK ? (apart from the fact that it looks good)

I love the handling of the 552 better that a M4/AK. Most people that I heard of love their 552. Beside that, it's a personal choice I guess.

SIG and AK use version 3 mechboxes, AR uses version 2.

V3 mechbox is more durable. That can make this AEG more attractive to some than a gun based on a V2 like an Armalite.

As for the 552 MODEL over some other gun, I don't think it makes a lick of difference in airsoft. An AEG is an AEG. Properly upgraded and tuned, one will be just as accurate as another comparable model with the same internal, regardless of body style. It's really a matter of personal preference for both look and comfort.

Not quite. The SG55x series is notorious for being a pain in the ass to open up. Definitely not recommended for a newbie who wants to upgrade his gun. If you choose based on aesthetics alone, you'll end up with a cool looking gun that you can't repair if it breaks. If you know what you're doing, you won't have too many problems making sure your gun is "Properly upgraded and tuned", but if you're new to the sport you certainly will if you choose the sig.

For someone like you Crunch, what you said is completely true, one aeg is just a different looking version of another aeg. But for a newb, they're worlds apart.

That's really great to hear, is there a rail on top?

The JG one has a rail up top on the newer models.

Ok, I guess I hadn't considered the upgrade / repair option, but was making just a generalized statement about using a SIG 55x compared to another comparably equipped AEG in general. Having no experience with any SIG-based AEGs, I'm not aware of their takedown.

I spent a lot of time considering a sg550 as my next purchase before deciding against it. Spent a lot of time watching it get broken down and built up again on youtube.

You learn something new every day :)

I can say from experience that taking down a Sig 55X and getting her back together is a bitch and a half. I had a used one that was in very very bad shape. Ended up stripping it for parts eventually and man was it hard.

Indeed, this AEG is a bit touchy for upgrading. Be properly informed before ripping it apart. The notorious part is when you take the GB out, it's crampy and the selector swithes gears will fall.

Here's another pic of my SA 552-1:
http://www.felixtactik.com/images/sg55202.jpg
The top rail and steel bolt are en route.

Damn you. You're making me want to spend more money that I don't have on guns.

My old one...
http://www.felixtactik.com/images/sig55208.jpg

looks like a pretty good gun.

where do they sell them in Canada? I heard Cabelas was getting new guns, is this one of them?

EDIT: Yes, Cabelas does carry this gun.

though the specs at Sig say that the thing will only shoot 265 with 0.2's

thats a big yawn...

Cat, that looks pretty damn good. Its got a fresh feel to it.

Flea-ish: Well, my SA 552-1 don't feel like it shoot 265... maybe another brand of clear 552?

or maybe it had a plastic gearbox.
cats sigs are the coolest looking ones ive ever seen

You shoud do the coke can fps test and give us the results.

Phil_Black: Yes, I'll do that when I'll be back at the workshop.
Dusti69: Thanks for the comments.

Sorry, no Coke can for the test... I don't drink that. So I'll go with a tall Rockstar can. The aluminium is different from a regular can. The rips are all horizonal.

I use the BBs that came with the AEG.

The 3 face impact (Top, center and side) rip open the can without passing thru, damaging the back.
http://www.felixtactik.com/images/impact01.jpg

The 2 on the bottom didn't penetrate
http://www.felixtactik.com/images/impact02.jpg

Hope this will help people.

Thank's

Well it shoud give between 290 and 310 fps.

I redid a little test. This time with proper BBs (KSC 0.20) and a can of Sprite.

Front impact (Perforation)
http://www.felixtactik.com/images/impact03.jpg

Back impact (Perforation)
http://www.felixtactik.com/images/impact04.jpg

Bottom (Rip with no penetration)
http://www.felixtactik.com/images/impact05.jpg

Doesn't look bad... But I'm really getting that "Two-tone" gun feel that they sell to minors in the UK... Something about the coloring just isn't agreeing with me.

Ah I see. But it's really for practical use. I don't like a full black gun. Look nice on a rack but less tactical on the field.

http://www.felixtactik.com/images/sg552mod01.jpg
http://www.felixtactik.com/images/sg552mod02.jpg
http://www.felixtactik.com/images/sg552mod03.jpg
http://www.felixtactik.com/images/sg552mod04.jpg
http://www.felixtactik.com/images/sg552mod05.jpg
Now with:
- Top receiver rail
- Steel bolt
- Steel front set parts
- Phantom Metal Flashhider -14mm
- 100rnds Midcaps mags
- Guarder IPSC 11/L Reflex Red Dot (To give a little practical OKO look)
- Guarder SLIP ON RUBBER for Vertical Foregrip

I got a friend that will do a metal shock cover for my reddot, much like the Oko:
http://www.oktarget.cz/stgw90.jpg

that is nice

Looking very good and that Flashhider looks much better than the original one.
I think a cheek rest will make it look even better :D

I won't add a cheek pad. Simple is beautiful. I like the cord padding, make it a bit more merc and dirty.

Where did you get your top rail from?

Easy to get in most shop:

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/default/t...e-sig-552.html
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...l?prodID=12462
http://www.dentrinityshop.com/pr_details.jsp?pid=5484

You can also use brand new internet technologies like Google and the forum Search fonction to find it.

wow dude. youre like the sig master

you know your guns bad ass when it shoots through the bottom of the can and puts a big dent in the top of it and breaks beer bottles too

SIG Master... funny. My goal is not the have a "bad ass" gun or a chrismas tree. That don't go with my style. I prefer reliable, short range power punch.

that bad ass gun thing was actually about all the pics of cans with bb holes in them haha

Ah ok. But it still +/- 400FPS.

i think 400 is enough to break a beer bottle

those fucking picture have made me decide to get the 550 such a beautiful gun, will be nice to have one in a sea of m4 and g36s . damn that gun is hot very nicely done. how long was shipping time.

Nope.

well my kraken and jg 416 shatter the hell out of beer bottles with .2's and so does my brothers kraken/d-boys hybrid

pipefitter316: Shipping time? From where I got it took 2-3 days.

thanks bro have fun shotting that bad ass looking bitch, i might have to steal your paint scheme hope your cool with that i get a darker green though.

No problem.

If you want the same RD:
Guarder IPSC 11/L Reflex Red Dot Sight ROUND Scope FS4
http://cgi.ebay.com/Guarder-IPSC-11-...QQcmdZViewItem

You must have pretty shitty beer bottles in the states or something. Oh yeah and that goes for what's in them too :D Although I haven't tried it with beer bottles here. I'm sure they'd just bounce off though. How close were you, and what FPS?

hey i hit a beer bottle with a clearsoft m4 at 20 feet and it broke so it can be done.

yea. like cqb ranges target practice ya know with the 390 to 400 range
rolling rock and jw dundees
i once broke a bottle with a crappy spring pistol. it probly had a weak spot though. my brother being the idiot he is shot his bedroom window and cracked the outer layer of the glass all to hell with my kraken before it was ever upgraded

Iv shot beer bottles at 540fps with .20's... they just bounced off...

thats odd. must be strong bottles. weve broken canning jars too with the same guns

just as long as nobody breaking full beer bottles all will be well. I just got jg g3 and that thing ripped apart a can in my niegbors yard about 30 feet away i have to do it again and get some pics.