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Metninja February 15th, 2009 14:16

Real Sword Type 56
 
I'm about to pull the trigger on my first AEG, and I've pretty much decided on the real sword type 56 ak. I want something high quality that will last and is game worthy, that won't require much upgrading. It's expensive for me but I want to avoid getting something cheaper and getting burned with problems later on, can anyone tell me if it's a good choice? It's going to be my only AEG, not going to collect, this and my WA 1911 is what I'll keep to indefinitely. I've read reviews on here that have helped a lot, but if anyone's got advice I will gladly take it, thanks.

Donster February 15th, 2009 14:21

i have heard nothing but good from RS products. The gun you mention is an excellent piece of work, though you might find that it shoots a bit too low (i have been told), it performs VERY nicely. I believe Crunchmeister on these forums owns one. He might have a review of it up here. Just use the search feature or contact him if you have specific questions. I distinctly remember him saying that the range and accuracy on the gun were ridiculous and as for exterior quality, it was exquisite.

ancorp February 15th, 2009 14:21

It is most certainly an outstanding choice. Just swap the spring for one that pulls off 400fps, and you're good to go.

Koopa February 15th, 2009 14:28

Dont buy it as a first gun. Go with a TM AK

Metninja February 15th, 2009 14:30

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Originally Posted by Koopa (Post 919779)
Dont buy it as a first gun. Go with a TM AK

Why not? TM AK's are plastic aren't they? I'd insist on something metal.

ShelledPants February 15th, 2009 14:38

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Originally Posted by Koopa (Post 919779)
Dont buy it as a first gun. Go with a TM AK

I disagree. While TM have years of reliability under their belt, and are great guns, most people feel the need to upgrade them a lot: New internals, metal bodies, wood kits, new electrical wiring... Until there isn't much TM left. With the RS 56, it's got TM reliability even with upgraded internals, but with the best externals found in an AK variant.

Personally, when I get back to Canada in Sept, I'll be buying a Type 56-1 so I can use the gun both outdoors and for CQB.

The Saint February 15th, 2009 14:38

Maybe Koopa means that unless you're sure that you'll enjoy airsoft, you might want to seek a cheaper first gun to test the hobby out first.

Metninja February 15th, 2009 14:45

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Originally Posted by The Saint (Post 919783)
Maybe Koopa means that unless you're sure that you'll enjoy airsoft, you might want to seek a cheaper first gun to test the hobby out first.

Yeah, and that is good advice. I'm coming from paintball though, and I know this is something I'll be into for a long time.

Thing is, TM isn't exactly cheap either here in Canada, so I'd rather pony up some more for something that's as close as it gets to the real steel. My rationale is that either way I'll be spending quite a bit, might as well go for the best if it's my only gun.

Koopa February 15th, 2009 15:01

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 919782)
With the RS 56, it's got TM reliability even with upgraded internals, but with the best externals found in an AK variant.

It looks good on paper and pictures but when you actually get it, and you embarrass yourself at several games cause it doesn't work or it shoots all over the place, you'll know it's not reliable. Despite that, its a decent gun but nothing like a TM AK.

Also, Im finding on these forums people are quick to only praise guns and never to criticize. I remember the commendation the new CAs got back a couple years and when a bunch of people on my team bought them, they found out the true POSs they are

ShelledPants February 15th, 2009 15:11

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Originally Posted by Koopa (Post 919799)
It looks good on paper and pictures but when you actually get it, and you embarrass yourself at several games cause it doesn't work or it shoots all over the place, you'll know it's not reliable. Despite that, its a decent gun but nothing like a TM AK.

Also, Im finding on these forums people are quick to only praise guns and never to criticize. I remember the commendation the new CAs got back a couple years and when a bunch of people on my team bought them, they found out the true POSs they are

Two members on my team have the RS Type 56 and have nothing but praise for them. I've fielded a TM AK, and I liked it, but I'd still buy a Type 56 for the reasons I've stated above, and that's my opinion. :)

Crunchmeister February 15th, 2009 15:18

My Type 56 is by far the best AEG I've ever laid hands on. It's tough, has insane range (even with the stock 310 fps spring) and is basically a nail driver. Seems to be what the majority of RS owners have had to say about their so far, although a few people have some minor accuracy problems with them out of the box (hopup related). Fixes on these are easy and cheap. I haven't had such and issue and no one who's bought one that I spoke to has had this issue.

The internals are all reinforced and of top quality, and it comes with a tightbore barrel out of the box. The extrenals are real steel grade and will withstand almost any punishment a real AK would. The only "down side" is the low power out of the box. Overall I still rank them as the best AEG available of any model.

The Saint February 15th, 2009 15:19

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Originally Posted by Koopa (Post 919799)
Also, Im finding on these forums people are quick to only praise guns and never to criticize.

....Are we talking about the same ASC? :D

I've never heard a single bad thing about RS anywhere, and I spend a good amount of time over at Arnies.

Kusco February 15th, 2009 15:26

i own ones of these, I have absouletly no regrets on purchasing this gun.
they are very nice. Like cruchmeister said in his review. EVEN THE SMELL OF THIS GUN IS AWESOME. although the price tag on it is pretty steep.

Gun still performs fairly well at stock. it shoots about 300 fps and is fairly accurate. (from what i understand the stock hopup rubber is not meant for its stock spring, putting a stiffer spring should remedy that, or switching out the hopup rubber if your leaving the spring as is).

I own several AEGS and the RS is still my Fav...

Crunchmeister February 15th, 2009 15:33

BTW, I should specify that the issue with the hopup rubber is that it's very hard - designed for 380+ fps velocities. Make no mistake about it - this gun was designed for 400+ fps velocities out of the box. They just installed a soft spring. I just barely nudge my hopup setting on a hair to get all the hop I need shooting .28g BBs. I find that with .2, even with minimal to no hopup some shots can over-hop and lead to accuracy problems. There are 3 easy fixes for this if it happens to be an issue on your gun -

1. Only use quality .25g+ BBs (cheapest and easiest "fix")

2. Upgrade to a more powerful spring that will yield 375-400 fps (this will likely be most peoples' solution)

3. Switch the hopup rubber and bucking to a softer type if you plan of leaving the mechbox stock or install a sub-350 fps spring.

So I would hardly consider that to be a "problem" with the gun. The only problem I've encountered is the shitty mini connector for the batttery under the dust cover. The wires tend to pull out of it easily. I'm eventually going to switch that to deans connectors anyway, so not an issue. Otherwise, this is as good as it gets and I would recommend this gun over anything else on the market if you like AKs. No other AK, even upgraded, can touch this thing.

Slick February 16th, 2009 19:14

Great gun. Out of the 9 56s my team got all 9 had to have the hop up rubber replaced. Do that and you should be good to go. Should be getting my SVD soon and cant wait!

Azathoth February 17th, 2009 12:48

I had the chance to fire Real steel Type 56 in China, and AEG as well. You won't be disappointed with a RS as a wall hanger or a gaming gun.

REVIEW:
http://airsoftnews.eu/comment.php?comment.news.2799

Crunchmeister February 17th, 2009 12:59

Well, if this isn't a testament to its ruggedness, I don't know what is. Try that with a TM...

YouTube - Part 2 - RS Type 56-1 AEG Crush Test

Brian McIlmoyle February 17th, 2009 13:28

Well .. that pretty much says it all.. try that with ANY other AEG

dragwindsor February 17th, 2009 13:31

Type 56...WOW...it shoots after snow!

Brian McIlmoyle February 17th, 2009 13:33

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Originally Posted by dragwindsor (Post 921245)
Type 56...WOW...it shoots right after snow!

snow... big deal... sand... whatever ... so what

blowing it up.. and driving over it... that is WOW worthy

dragwindsor February 17th, 2009 13:34

I was just quoting an enthusiastic European. ;)

Conscript February 17th, 2009 13:36

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Originally Posted by dragwindsor (Post 921250)
I was just quoting an enthusiastic European. ;)

I wonder what she'd say after looking at your schlong.

pusangani February 17th, 2009 13:37

I've seen Ancorp toss his AKM in the snow, have it covered in snow and pick it up and dump a 100rd midcap without dusting off the snow

dragwindsor February 17th, 2009 13:39

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Originally Posted by Conscript (Post 921253)
I wonder what she'd say after looking at your schlong.

".............. but your Derringer is TWICE the size?" :(

pusangani February 17th, 2009 13:43

hehehhe you boys and your toys...

Crunchmeister February 17th, 2009 13:45

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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 921243)
Well .. that pretty much says it all.. try that with ANY other AEG

Even with a PTW....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoy921249
snow... big deal... sand... whatever ... so what

blowing it up.. and driving over it... that is WOW worthy

Agreed. Snow and sand isn't such a big deal as long as too much sand doesn't get into the gearbox. The exploding and driving over it though... Yeah, that's impressive...

dragwindsor February 17th, 2009 13:48

I just think they have to actually hold one to understand how nice it is.

Metninja February 19th, 2009 12:35

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Originally Posted by KND (Post 921218)
I used to have the Real Sword Type 56 but I'm not happy with to use indoor, it's way too bulky to use indoor since this rifle is build for outdoor game because it's too long and big, it's hard for me to roll around the corner to get a guy but still I would buy another one in summer season because I still like the external of this gun, maybe the Type 56 B is my next target for indoor game.

By the way, If you like the look of AK and plan to use for indoor game, I would recommend you to use the CYMA AKS-74 U, I had one and put almost 10,000 rounds on the stock and it's still working as charm.

I'm not too too worried about length, for indoors, I'll switch to my sidearm if I end up in a tight spot. But are the stocks interchangeable? I'm going to get the full wood stock version, but can I swap it with a folding metal one if I ever want to?

pusangani February 19th, 2009 12:41

no, the folding metal stock goes on an AKS47 body which would be the RealSword Type 56-1

Crunchmeister February 19th, 2009 12:44

If indoors is a concern, then get the Type 56-1. Same gun, different stock, no bayonet and it's great for indoors.

AS92-RD February 19th, 2009 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 921264)
Even with a PTW....



Agreed. Snow and sand isn't such a big deal as long as too much sand doesn't get into the gearbox. The exploding and driving over it though... Yeah, that's impressive...

Yeah. and it worked even after they put it in a pail of water. Amazing durability. Does Real sword make M16/M4 series rifles?

ShelledPants February 19th, 2009 12:57

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Originally Posted by AS92-RD (Post 922889)
Yeah. and it worked even after they put it in a pail of water. Amazing durability. Does Real sword make M16/M4 series rifles?

They make the Type 97 and Type 97B which take STANAG magazines.

AS92-RD February 19th, 2009 13:04

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 922890)
They make the Type 97 and Type 97B which take STANAG magazines.

Wow, that gun looks like a bad mix of a FAMAS and an SA80. I think I'll hold out for an Armalite.

ShelledPants February 19th, 2009 13:10

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Originally Posted by AS92-RD (Post 922896)
Wow, that gun looks like a bad mix of a FAMAS and an SA80. I think I'll hold out for an Armalite.

Actually they have gotten great reviews. But to each his own.

Double Tapper February 19th, 2009 13:11

They are a good looking aeg,I'm looking to get one this summer.:cool:

AS92-RD February 19th, 2009 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 922901)
Actually they have gotten great reviews. But to each his own.

Well, I just don't like how it looks. I'm sure it gets great reviews for quality. Even if they don't make an Armalite I would go with an AK variant.

Metninja February 19th, 2009 15:08

That's fine, I prefer the looks of the wood stock anyways, going to remove the bayonet though. Is there a recommended battery for it? Or any 8.4v will do?

Crunchmeister February 19th, 2009 15:20

I run a 9.6V stick battery in mine. Fits perfectly in the gas tube under the dust cover. You could easily fit up to a 12V stick battery there. You can also fit a custom 8.4V or 9.6V mini battery into the stock.

Metninja February 19th, 2009 15:30

Perfect. Just ordered it from one of our retailers, the wait begins!

EDIT -

Could anyone link a site that sells real sword mags? I also am looking for something that holds two mags together so when one clip runs out i can pull it out and switch to the other, if you know what i mean.

Old School Punk February 19th, 2009 16:19

I have read that this gun only shoots at 295 fps. :( Is it just me or does this seem really low for such a high end gun?

Is this gun sufficiently "well built" enough to only require a spring upgrade to get the fps up to an acceptable level?

Thanks

Gordo

Amos February 19th, 2009 16:25

FPS means shit.

It's one of the easiest things to change on a gun.

High FPS guns are only like that to sucker new players into thinking they're better.

The Saint February 19th, 2009 16:25

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Originally Posted by Old School Punk (Post 923023)
Is this gun sufficiently "well built" enough to only require a spring upgrade to get the fps up to an acceptable level

From what I've read, the only thing weak about the mechbox is the spring. It can stand up to HK field limits (~450fps) in stock config (replace spring).

Bowers February 19th, 2009 16:29

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Originally Posted by Metninja (Post 922990)
Perfect. Just ordered it from one of our retailers, the wait begins!

EDIT -

Could anyone link a site that sells real sword mags? I also am looking for something that holds two mags together so when one magazine runs out i can pull it out and switch to the other, if you know what i mean.

like this?
http://www.airsoftpost.com/full-meta...p-p-26533.html

tape also works

ShelledPants February 19th, 2009 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metninja (Post 922990)
Perfect. Just ordered it from one of our retailers, the wait begins!

EDIT -

Could anyone link a site that sells real sword mags? I also am looking for something that holds two mags together so when one clip runs out i can pull it out and switch to the other, if you know what i mean.

Mags
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...l?prodID=23246

Ak Magazine Coupler
http://www.lapolicegear.com/caaakmagco.html

But for the record, 100mph tape works just as well.

johjoh February 19th, 2009 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metninja (Post 922990)
Perfect. Just ordered it from one of our retailers, the wait begins!

EDIT -

Could anyone link a site that sells real sword mags? I also am looking for something that holds two mags together so when one clip runs out i can pull it out and switch to the other, if you know what i mean.

i never read much yet about real sword because im so busy lately but do you require special mags for the RS products? or ucan use and tm compatible mags, because that question kinda put me in a, uhh? what?? position lol

ShelledPants February 19th, 2009 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by johjoh (Post 923244)
i never read much yet about real sword because im so busy lately but do you require special mags for the RS products? or ucan use and tm compatible mags, because that question kinda put me in a, uhh? what?? position lol

They can use TM mags, but some brands such as KA and MAG need to be (easily) modified so that they catch properly.

johjoh February 20th, 2009 11:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 923251)
They can use TM mags, but some brands such as KA and MAG need to be (easily) modified so that they catch properly.

alright thanks alot

Crunchmeister February 20th, 2009 12:04

I have some KA plastic mags, and they feed perfectly. Although I had to dremel the 'catch lip' on the mag so it would properly catch under the mag catch of the gun. The lip is a bit too fat on the mags stock.

If you check the reviews section for my Type 56 review, I have pics of what I modified on the mag to fit.

kruth October 4th, 2009 09:47

how big of a battery can one fit in the stock?
im trying to decide if i should go with the fixed stock or one of the 2 folding ones.
the only reason for me to chose the fixed one is if i can fit a big lipo battery in it.
happy for quick replys since i need to order tomorow.
kind regards
andy 'the swede' kruth

Amos October 4th, 2009 10:00

You can fit 2 cells inside the stock.

The stock's not designed for a battery.

Although... I do remember the one I worked on had a cavity that went all the way to the other end of the stock, so depending on the battery you put in there... you might be able to fit a LIPO...

kruth October 4th, 2009 13:13

maybe its possible to enlarge that cavity to fit a larger battery:confused:

yuhaoyang October 4th, 2009 15:47

am I the only one who thinks 2 AK mags taped together looks really badass?
http://home.planet.nl/~rouw0062/dcdb..._ar_ak74_1.JPG

BootYourFace October 5th, 2009 02:51

No. My team does this often. lol

Forever_kaos October 5th, 2009 03:11

Yep, I've done it often aswell for my RPK.

kruth October 5th, 2009 06:16

One question that’s being discussed right now in Sweden is whether or not its possible to attach real ak stocks WITHOUT major dremel/chainsaw modifications to the Real sword 56.

Anyone???

m102404 October 5th, 2009 07:12

RS 56's are built like a bank vault. They are a stone b*tch to take apart...but that's a good thing.

Internals are decent. There's room in the stock for a 7.4v 2xxx LiPo brick. It's one of the nicest AEGs I've ever come across.


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