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GCA April 6th, 2009 15:29

Best first-time AEGs?
 
I had my hopes set on Sniper, but apparently that's out of the question until I'm known on some fields sooo.

What are some good AEGs to get, that have decent upgrades.

I like Power / Accuracy over Rate of Fire (Though it's nice too)

My only thought so far was the TM M14

Danneichh April 6th, 2009 15:37

Hey, from what i've seen and heard, the TM M-14 is a damn good gun, and can be made (once people begin to know you) into a sniper rifle. To be honest, one of the main reasons people here on ASC discourage new people from sniping isn't just the person being new, it's the fact that being a sniper is expensive as hell. A stock sniper rifle from just about any company wont shoot any farther or more accurately than a stock AEG. So, when your out in the field, you don't have any advantage over AEG's, but they have an advantage over you of being able to fire full auto. A lot of new people like the idea of being a sniper, but from what i've seen, many newcomers will buy a sniper rifle, play a couple games while being horribly outgunned, and then quit because they aren't having fun. So don't take it personally, we'd just like to see new people enjoy themselves. :D

Harbinger of Darkness April 6th, 2009 15:38

Can't go wrong with an M4.

Lots of upgrades and you can customize it to your playing style. All in all a pretty noob friendly gun.

GCA April 6th, 2009 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harbinger of Darkness (Post 956322)
Can't go wrong with an M4.

Lots of upgrades and you can customize it to your playing style. All in all a pretty noob friendly gun.

Some people were telling me the length (45") is a bit long for indoor and close-ranged play.

That was my main-concern.

Danneichh April 6th, 2009 15:42

An M-14 yes, but an M4 should be plenty small enough, and the retracting stock definitely helps. I forgot to add that you should look at getting age verified, as their are tonnes of awesome deals in the classifieds, and it should be pretty easy for you to find a weapon that suits your needs and playing style.

AngelusNex April 6th, 2009 15:44

M4 is a jack of all trades gun. Decent range accuracy and yet small enough that it is efficient indoors. And it is the simplest and cheapest platform to customize.

pusangani April 6th, 2009 15:47

If you wanted to be sniper, ynot get an M14 or a M16, both are really long guns and have decent range I hear.

Turnbull April 6th, 2009 15:48

If you're looking mainly to play CQB, then you could also look for an MP5, or similar platforms. The M4 is great, don't get me wrong, but its not your only option. However, this being said, customizing, as well as upgrading an M4 is great because of the sheer amount of parts available, as well as how easy it is to find parts for it.

Cuddles April 6th, 2009 15:54

Agreed with most people here in that the M4 is your best bet.

Largest variety of parts and affordable upgrades available for it.
It is one of the most familiar guns in airsoft, so if you were to come across any problems or need any troubleshooting, there are a lot of people that can help and replacement parts are easy to find.

kalnaren April 6th, 2009 15:57

Many people recommend an M4 as a first gun. Personally I'm not a fan of that platform. Others you may consider is an HK416, or G36C or K.

Danke April 6th, 2009 16:23

A M4 variant is a great choice to start. Now you're going to ask why.

The AEG itself is only one part of the puzzle. When you get the most common gun on the ground you'll be able to find mags, pouches to carry them, furniture to hang off the outside of it, and lots of upgrades for inside.

Get something a bit more off the path and you're stuck with no magazines, or shoving them into your pockets because there are no easy to find pouches of vests to carry them in.

A clear lower receiver one is a cheap buy in. Since mags, pouches, sights, etc. will all often swap between all brands if you decide you need more muscle down the road all the nice stuff you've added on will transfer right over so you won't need to get another whole load of parts.

There are a few others AEGs like the MP5 variants that also boast a big footprint like the M4.

If you're still not sure take the time to visit a few local games and see the gear firsthand.

Harbinger of Darkness April 6th, 2009 16:41

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Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 956344)
Many people recommend an M4 as a first gun. Personally I'm not a fan of that platform. Others you may consider is an HK416, or G36C or K.


I will admit that the G36 is another very good platform to start with. I ran with one for some time and was very pleased with it. The only issue I found were the mags, however a STANAG magazine (M16/M4 style mag) conversion is availabe relativly cheap. :)

Brian McIlmoyle April 6th, 2009 17:00

The answer
 
Your first gun should be one of the following,

AK , MP5, M4

Nothing else should be considered.

Reasons

1. lots available both resale and new
2. Easy to re-sell when you move on
3. Lots of Gear options
4. mags readily available , and inexpensive.
5. lots of people very comfortable working on them if you want upgrades.. or need repairs

kalnaren April 6th, 2009 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 956388)
Your first gun should be one of the following,

AK , MP5, M4

Nothing else should be considered.

Reasons

1. lots available both resale and new
2. Easy to re-sell when you move on
3. Lots of Gear options
4. mags readily available , and inexpensive.
5. lots of people very comfortable working on them if you want upgrades.. or need repairs

I'd still add a G36 in there.. for the V3 mechbox if nothing else.

Skladfin April 6th, 2009 17:03

anthing common is fine really, I'm sure you can find some parts to make it more CQB oriented.

AKS74U, M4 CQBR, or MP5A5

Brian McIlmoyle April 6th, 2009 17:05

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Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 956389)
I'd still add a G36 in there.. for the V3 mechbox if nothing else.

Everyone I ever knew who had a G36 loved it.. but hated the fact the getting mags is a pain..

Unless you like to tickle the bottom of your mags... getting a loadout will take $

pusangani April 6th, 2009 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 956393)
Everyone I ever knew who had a G36 loved it.. but hated the fact the getting mags is a pain..

Unless you like to tickle the bottom of your mags... getting a loadout will take $

hhehehhehehehhehe oh shit that's funny

Brian McIlmoyle April 6th, 2009 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 956397)
hhehehhehehehhehe oh shit that's funny

Yo, you ain't heard of "mag ticklers" Shit.... they're EVERYWHERE

techobo April 6th, 2009 17:20

There's lots of great advice here already. But here's some food for thought. If you get an M4 and still want to snipe later, all you have to do is change the front end and you go from M4 for SPR! Not too many other platforms that will allow you to go from assault rifle to sniper rifle. Easier on the wallet too. ;)

Lawdog April 6th, 2009 17:21

Actually a real man would get an MP40 or a Thompson go WWII airsoft...

But having said that I would add that a TM M14 would probably satisfy your needs, as would the other guns listed above.

Like women, your first love will not likely be your last.

Ld

Huron April 6th, 2009 17:30

I would say an M16 is a good starter gun, because it's the same platform as the M4 so there's infinite upgrades for it. That means you can slap on a shorter barrel and retractable stock for CQB, but still have the option to switch back to the 20"+509mm outer+inner barrel for outdoors. Just make sure you have a fair bit of money set aside for upgrades, or a source of money for upgrades, or you'll find yourself frustrated and tortured like a hormonal teenager locked in a bathroom at the Playboy mansion.

pusangani April 6th, 2009 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by techobo (Post 956403)
There's lots of great advice here already. But here's some food for thought. If you get an M4 and still want to snipe later, all you have to do is change the front end and you go from M4 for SPR! Not too many other platforms that will allow you to go from assault rifle to sniper rifle. Easier on the wallet too. ;)

you can do the exact same thing with AK's too, I usually keep 2-3 different front ends, Regular AK47 length (456mm), Beta-Spetz length w/MP5 tightbore (230mm), and a mid length one as well with an M4 length systema tightbore (360mm), you just have to remove 4 body screws (i only use 2 tho) and change easily

kalnaren April 6th, 2009 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 956393)
Everyone I ever knew who had a G36 loved it.. but hated the fact the getting mags is a pain..

Unless you like to tickle the bottom of your mags... getting a loadout will take $

Indeed. There's a reason I'm chaning mine over to M4 mags :p

GCA April 6th, 2009 17:53

What's the P90 like?

Disco_Dante April 6th, 2009 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 956393)
Everyone I ever knew who had a G36 loved it.. but hated the fact the getting mags is a pain..

Unless you like to tickle the bottom of your mags... getting a loadout will take $

A box of midcaps costs like 50$ for five, plus shipping. That's not too bad. It's only expensive if you want dummy rounds in your mags.

Edit: There's always the magwell converter, so that you can use m4 mags.

Erennert April 6th, 2009 18:02

CYMA AKs-74u is a Great gun, and for only 400$, awesome starter gun. Also defiantly small enough for CQB, and has the range and accuracy for Outdoor.

Danke April 6th, 2009 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by GCA (Post 956429)
What's the P90 like?

Nice but another bear to find magazines for and to carry said magazines.

Airsoftparts.ca on here might have just got a few in though (it's the fake bullets that wreck the deal).

kalnaren April 6th, 2009 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by GCA (Post 956429)
What's the P90 like?

I love it. The thing is a terror in CQB. Very small and mobile.. floating barrel makes it quite accurate. Contrary to what a lot of people might say, it's also really competant for outdoor play, especially with a tightbore and shooting a little hotter with heavier ammo. The version 6 mechbox is a dream to work on too compared to other versions. The gun is small and light as well. I'd say the only real disadvantage is the larger mags. Even then the JG mags are available in the classifieds for under $30, they're just large.

I put an EoTech on my tri-rail version with a SOCOM supressor and it looks awesome. Definetly one of my favorite guns.


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