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BrokenBird July 8th, 2009 13:56

PM5A5
 
I just bought my first gun, a G&G PM5A5, I love the look and the feel, however I feel a bit underwhelmed by the power, it really seems weak. And sometimes in single fire mode it shoots 2 BBs instead of 1 is this normal?

Also I don't like that you have to crank the charger, are they all like that? (The guy also sold me a plastic charger that seems to be spring loaded, but it holds only a few BBs and feels really cheap)

I also got a BRONS green/red dot sight (Aimpoint 4MOA), very good looking, however there are no instructions, there is a way to calibrate this right?

vatek July 8th, 2009 14:11

By charger you mean magazine, right? All high capacity magazines have the wheel on the bottom that you have to spin to maintain spring tension in the magazine, since they feed from a large reservoir of BBs and not a single continuous tube. The lower capacity magazine should hold around 50 BBs, and it probably feels cheap because it's made out of plastic, where the hi-cap is made of metal. Not as realistic, but cheaper to replace when you lose them in the field.

I'm not sure what you mean by the gun feeling weak. It should be shooting around 330-350 FPS, which is actually a little higher than average for an unmodified gun. If you're talking about recoil, I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed, as electrically powered airsoft guns typically have little to no recoil.

You should be able to unscrew a couple of caps on the dot sight (it varies from model to model) to access the elevation and left/right adjustments.

BrokenBird July 8th, 2009 14:43

Thanks, yes by Charger I meant magazines, scuse my frenglish. By the gun feeling weak, I mean I can't really check the FPS but it seems slow, but of course I am use to shooting pelet guns so it might only be my perception.

BrokenBird July 8th, 2009 17:02

is it normal that in single fire mode it shoots 2-3 BBs sometimes instead of 1? Is this because of some settings, or is my gun defect?

Mr. G36! July 8th, 2009 17:12

Could be an issue with your Hop-up or the magazines. What do you mean by "sometimes" though?

BrokenBird July 8th, 2009 17:20

Well one out of 5 shots has more than one BB, I don't think this is normal and the gun is brand new. Any adjustments I can make?

Boomshakah July 8th, 2009 17:53

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Muffin July 8th, 2009 17:57

Your cut-off lever may be finicky. In order to get at the cut-off lever, you'd need to open the gearbox entirely. I'd recommend that you either send it out to a gun doc or send it back to the store you bought it from.

Where did you buy from anyways?

BrokenBird July 8th, 2009 19:42

I bought it for Surplus IG in Montreal, I will go back there tomorrow and change it for another one. The guy there seems ok, but we'll really see about post sale service tomorrow.

Doombringer July 8th, 2009 20:43

Please keep us updated. Vlad says that he gives a 2-week guarantee for any warranty defect, etc... We'll see.

AngelusNex July 8th, 2009 20:57

is it shooting 2 bbs with one "shot" sound? or is it (on semi) firing 2 separately with 2 shots but only one trigger pull? if it's the later of those 2 it's just that you have a powerful battery, My friends AK fires twice on semi with his Lipo.

kalnaren July 8th, 2009 21:04

MP5s sometimes fire 2 rounds in semi. No idea why.. most of them do it though.

lemegacool July 8th, 2009 21:17

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Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 1021099)
MP5s sometimes fire 2 rounds in semi. No idea why.. most of them do it though.

mines (jg ras full metal) does it when i stuck a 11.1v lipo in it

BrokenBird July 8th, 2009 21:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepulcrum (Post 1021092)
is it shooting 2 bbs with one "shot" sound? or is it (on semi) firing 2 separately with 2 shots but only one trigger pull? if it's the later of those 2 it's just that you have a powerful battery, My friends AK fires twice on semi with his Lipo.

It is 2 BBs with on shot.

kalnaren July 8th, 2009 21:39

My TM does it sometimes. I know a few other people with MP5s (TM and JG) that do it. Has something to do with the design of the selector or something in the MP5.

AngelusNex July 8th, 2009 21:55

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Originally Posted by BrokenBird (Post 1021124)
It is 2 BBs with on shot.

That would be hopup and/or tappet plate related then.

BrokenBird July 8th, 2009 21:58

Vlad told me he will exchange it, so I will get a M4 or M16 instead. Single Firing mode is really important to me as I don't like to spray.

L473ncy July 9th, 2009 00:23

Is it double feeding as in you get 2 shots with one pull or one "blank" shot then 2 bb's coming out? I had my gun (M4) do the double feeding thing and the culprit was in fact the BB's I was using. Otherwise it seems to be functioning perfectly and I would really just leave it be unless you really want that M4.

BrokenBird July 9th, 2009 01:05

I tried with different kinds of BB and it does it with all.

kalnaren July 9th, 2009 18:21

Ok, does it fire 2 bbs.. or does the mechbox actually cycle twice? If it's the problem I'm thinking of, the mechbox actually cycles twice.

AngelusNex July 9th, 2009 20:01

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Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 1021672)
Ok, does it fire 2 bbs.. or does the mechbox actually cycle twice? If it's the problem I'm thinking of, the mechbox actually cycles twice.

I covered that already a few posts up, cycles once fires 2 (shotgun)

kalnaren July 9th, 2009 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepulcrum (Post 1021738)
I covered that already a few posts up, cycles once fires 2 (shotgun)

I'm talking about a different problem -cycles more than once on semi, firing a single BB each time.

BrokenBird July 9th, 2009 21:59

Ok so I got to the store, and of course the gun was now behaving properly when Vlad tried it :banghead: Anyway he let me choose another gun, so I took an ICS M4 with a silencer, I really like the gun, however, I got home and the wrong battery was in the box, I go back to the store again (another 50km) to get the battery swapped to the 2800mAh but then he doesn't have the proper connector for the charger.

Anyway the connector I can deal with at any electronic store, but if you buy stuff from this store you better check what you are leaving with before you get home, I drove 150KM total to get to this point, and I am still missing a connector.

:D

L473ncy July 9th, 2009 22:34

Any hobby/electronics store should carry the right connectors. If you paid attention during (or even took) shop/electronics class you should know enough of the basics to competently solder the connectors.

If it's a wall charger toss it out as soon as you can and get a "real" charger any RC/hobby shop will carry the charger that you should be using.

BrokenBird July 9th, 2009 23:39

I have no worries about that, if I can build a computer I can solder a connector. About the charger, what is wrong with the tiny wall plug I got? Is it going to cause me problems?

What should I buy?

Styrak July 9th, 2009 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenBird (Post 1021947)
I have no worries about that, if I can build a computer I can solder a connector. About the charger, what is wrong with the tiny wall plug I got? Is it going to cause me problems?

What should I buy?

Dumb wall chargers are crap and will damage your batteries. Buy a good smart charger with "peak detection" or "Delta-V detection". Smart chargers stop charging when they detect the pack is full.


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