Building a airsoft field
 

Hey, I'm interested in building a field in my yard for me and my friends to play in. The area that I am using to do this is about 3/4 of a acre. It's not huge soo I want to make something that suits its size. If you guys could help me with things that I can do with it or things that I can put on the field that would be great. So far I have a descent sized fort and a old run down shack. The field is in long grass but I am not sure if that's good or bad? it's about 2 feet long... Please help me I want to make this field awesome but I need your help! :)

for smaller fields one of the best things to put in them are bunkers!

you can do many different things with bunkers, assault/defend, capture the flag...
having 2 main ones and some smaller ones scattered in the field.

trench systems would be awesome as well, but they are a little harder to construct.

as far as the grass goes, i would cut it in some places and leave it long in others, gives decent sniper cover.

K thanks, Yeah I think I'm gonna try and put some bukers but trenches cost to much

Holes are free.

It's not just a hole dude. A trenche needs a frame to hold the mud walls up and wood doesn't come cheap lol

You just re-dig em...

And you get Age Verified...
Magical and wonderous things happen when your Age Verified.

You dont need to be age varefied to have a park in your backyard that won't be a business

Whatever kid just keep it out of sight.

It's not illegal to airsoft under 18...YOu just can't buy the gun, someone oover 18 has to. And it's on my property

Lol, Where is this 'feild' of yours going to be located? and how old are you exactly?

But you do need to be age verified before about 90% of this forums population will answer any questions as if your more than 12.

They also have to own it and be watching you for every second your playing with it.... legally.

And for a field that size I'd say, find a bigger field. I use my fathers property every now and then, it's part of a forest, 3 acres are playable and that is crowded with only 6-8 players.

You still need to keep it out of site to the general public. Don't get lippy with me son, I'm pissed off and on my period.

No, but it's completely stupid to brandish replica firearms in view of the public, neighbours, people passing/driving by, whatever... that's what he was referring to.

Wheres that can of worms pic
lol

just kidding and +1 for the bunker idea and just a note you can use skids to brace the walls
and by skids i mean pallets not long haired heavy metal dudes........ well i guess they could work too

I'm trying to not spend vary much money, how much do you think that would cost to have a 20 foot long trench?

It'll cost you nothing if you dig it yourself.

well bare minimum not including nails and shit just lumber id say a couple hundred buck for sure wich is why i would use skids their free provided the place you get them will give them too you try trucking company's. they dont have to be in mint condition after all your puttin them in the ground and they double as ladders to get in and out of the trench.

Try behinde grocery stores too they usually have a stack of busted ones and occaisionally perfect ones too.

Basically anywhere that has a major shipping department

Yeh but I need wood to hold the walls up

Ok is that like those pallet things?

Okay. during the Jsoc prep for Cleaver II, we just dug a trench, used the dirt we dug up for sandbags, and layered it around the edges of the trench, if we saw any places that were potentially 'collapsable'. We stacked sandbags there.

Sandbags are cheap. give that a whirl.

go hack up a tree after you're done digging the trench. mighty fine way to naturally build muscle.

Yup

this is folly

So, What are you going to do with this 'feild' once you're done with it? I'm assuming you have a bunch of freinds wanting to play there?

Good Idea, I have plenty of dead trees around my yard that I could use to hold up the sides

Just so were clear. Stealing Pallets is theft.

Beleive it or not, Pallets are made of hard woods. And they are quite expensive.

Taking one from a grocery store or w/e is not recomended.

If you cant make a simple judgement like that... Your not ready for airsoft.

Wait till your 18, get verified. Many members of this board have waited...

Your no Different.

make sure to talk with your local authorities before doing that...

Before doing what?

Make a simple judgment for what?

A simple judgement like: stealing a pallet from a grocery store is theft, therefore illegal, therefore I shouldn't do it.

cruise over to www.mb-airsoft.com. its the local boards. come out to a few games if your old enough. or go to XT.

PS, pallets are pretty readily available for free. You just got to ask the right people. I used a stack of 10 for a bonfire a week ago, didnt pay a cent, just in marshmallows and hotdogs

who mentioned anything about stealing them man i wish people would learn to read rather than up their post count." provided the place you get them will give them too you"

I wasn't going to do that lol

Agreed lol people don't read properly

I'm willing to bet that it's not your property. The land owner actually is legally responsible if someone gets injured and sues.

Just a heads up, unless you have your name on the title to the land then you should probably check with your parents first. If they let you do it then fine but don't just start digging holes randomly in your backyard. I know my parents would freak if I did something like that.

Oh well My parents are fine with it, my dad is even willing to build a two story tower

You will probably need permits to dig the hols if they are big, anything that is not move able (big bunkers) may legally need permits as well. Just a little heads up.

Well is it ok if they're only like 3 to 4 feet deep? would I need a permit for that ?

Hey Maiden11, how old are you?

No idea, I don't live in your city, your going to have to do that research yourself to avoid big fines.

i advise checking with your municipality

Why would I tell you? .....:confused:

depends where you live. if your in the boonies, im sure noone will care, but call manitoba hydro so you dont hit a power line

Noi its ok my dad said we dont for where we live. cuz we dont live in town

seriously though, get in touch with our local groups. you can learn more in one day at a scrim than 1000 post on ASC

If you care so much for telling us how old you are, it just shows that you are ~15 max. I say EVERYONE here should stop helping this kid out and let him do whatever he wants without our help.

Why? I love airsofting it's sooo fun and exciting. I need help to make this field, who cares about my age. It's not illegal for me to airsoft!!!

We don't care about legalities, Our Morales and beliefs about the state of airsoft in Canada can stop us from helping you.

Because not being age verified + being unwilling to tell your age demonstrate that you dont want to tell us your age in fear of being penalized for it.

Which means you know how our system works and you know what were going to tell you anyways.

Get Age Verified. Or Wait till your 18.

Making a huff about "Im Just Doing This" or "Its My Property That" when we try to explain to you why isnt going to get you anywhere.

Agree with SEA... check out the MAA Manitoba Airsoft Assoc.

another thing you may want to try is getting in touch with Ambush Anonymous airsoft... they have a small speedball type field with bunkers, buildings, old cars and washers and dryers, Tires and wood structures..

small field and thay don't care how old you are as long as you act professionally and abide by the rules (which it sounds like you do) so check that out..

I know they have an 8 hour scrim next saturday first 4 hours are springers (under 300 fps) next 4 are anything under 400 FPS... they have a good CQB field...

on one note on your field. I have derived that you are outside the parimeter. so the City laws about discharging a weapon (be it real steel or Airsoft) won't apply...

Re permits outside the city well your land have at er.

not knowing where you are in MB just make sure no stray pellets hit a neighbours car or windows or the cash you save to buy the Broxxa will be spent replacing glass... :)

also check with your insurance... if you dig a hole and a friend falls in it and breaks their arm / Leg or worse neck are you liable for that... can they sue..

lots to look at

but I do as (Diamond SEA) stated STRONGLY encourage you to wander over to the Manitoba Airsoft Association for sure

and perhaps check out the action at Ambush Anon Airsoft... Bring your friends and have a blast

CHeers!

Thanks for the info. and thanks for being nice with your comments

On a side note....

Remember guys.... for now he may be under age but.... remember he is the future of airsoft as a sport. if you represent yourself poorly as an airsoft community then what image is that portraying...

Lets assume just because he is young dose not mean he is not going to play fair...

I have met many AS players (who are AV here) and they do face shots, blind fire, never call hits, and when they do return to spawn don't go completely there just out of sight...

it is an "Honor" sport so have some...

sorry for the rant but so much bitching is not good... who knows right perhaps one day he will own a field we all play on...

you never know do you.....

ThANK YOU !

or you know, assault a bunker with you in it, take out two teammates, then stare ackwardly at eachother trying to figure out if the other is dead or not.

NOW that never ever happens....... :)

I would recommend going to an already set up airsoft field where it is fully covered with the appropriate insurance so you cover your ass in case of an injury. I know, you know your buddies and they'd never screw you, but there is a soccer mom out there ready to pounce when her baby gets hurt, and in order for you and your family to be protected from being taken to the cleaners from an unfortunate mishap, or before you incur some stupid legal fees (they do happen nobody is immune) I would still recommend the age verified route. Not saying you would be irresponsible, but playing a game without the appropriate rules and legal stuff in place is like playing the lottery now a days. Someone loses and eye or sustains an injury we are in a sue everyone for what they are worth society now, not as bad as the states but it could still happen so save yourself and your family the grief.

Welcome to the complications of airsoft. I have 5 acres and I still am not going to open myself up to a potential law suite over a game. You can still have fun, just do it in the proper areas. Enjoy.

It's just for my friends and I'm also gonna make it as safe as I can just incase injuryies don't happen, I would only get insurance if I would open up a business!

Just a tip. If you're making a structure make sure that it's structurally sound. Dig deep and cement that sucker into the ground real nice. In addition you'll probably want to make "collars" for your posts (AKA "post wraps") which direct water away from the post when it rains which not only prevents it from rotting faster but also keeps the soil that's around the post free of as much moisture as possible so that it doesn't turn into mud and start falling over.

This is a perfect example of a collar except for the fact that it's straight and not angled so water may pool up, make sure that the water gets directed away and not pooled up on the collar itself.

EDIT: Forgot to put the image http://www.mailboxesofchoice.com/Ima...llar_Small.jpg

@ OP: Actually it kind of does sound like you put some thought into it but I'm willing to say probably not enough thought, you'll need more than just willpower to take on something like this, heck I thought I was going to make a stupid table in 3 days but it ended up taking a week and a half mostly because I was clueless, and didn't have a solid plan (sure I had measurements, made my cuts precise and such but no such plan for what was going to happen "in the middle portion" of making that table). You're probably going to want to think about starting off with a few smaller structures first then working your way up to a major project.

Seeing that you live in Manitoba this is what you do. Call Manitoba hydro if your digging. Doesn't matter if you think there's nothing there. Better safe then sorry. If your close to Winnipeg go over to Saint Boniface pallet on Panet Road or Dominion pallet on Pandora Ave west. You can load up as many as you want and there all free. Lastly as some have mentioned visit mb-airsoft.com. Were very welcoming and friendly.

when i joined this kid would have been burnt to a crisp for openly admitting he is playing airsoft underage. the thread would be locked up and that would be the end of it. its amazing how things change in 2 short years.

for the OP, if you really dont know what to do for your field, go visit other fields and see what they do and do it for your field.

+1 bro

are you guys really giving this child tips on how to play backyard airsoft?

Apart from all the good advice you're giving him, the fact that he is underage opens us all up to media crap when he or his friend has an "accident" and his parents blame airsoft for it.

So, are we endorsing a whole field of underage airsofters because 'it's ok, at least we're not selling to or playing with them'?

People that are underage have trouble resisting the temptation to bring the guns to school. To bring them out in public. To use them to vandalize, etc. (more so than so-called "responsible adults" who WILL get their ass kicked by the law if they do).

I don't think we should support underage airsofting. Period. It will eventually kill the sport.

Visit the board. Wait until you're 18. Plan. Be responsible. Don't figure out ways to buy guns and build trenches and alarm your teachers.

Still a buddy loses an eye, tooth, sever injury, or any other possible bad out come, what do you think his parents are going to do? It's still a risk even if you know them. I've see things go south before for less. Just looking out for you. Your going to do whatever you want anyhow. I just want to ensure that all possible avenues are covered to limit any problems you may encounter. I have you and your families best interests in mind here, not trying to be a kill joy. I think you should stick with a certified field unless you are prepared to go the extra mile and get the appropriate coverage, business or not you should always have some sort of coverage for the worst case scenario should it ever rear it's ugly head.

And on a side note you have to realize we are trying to keep airsoft's reputation of people who play airsoft positive and we do have our own rules to help ensure that people play responsibly. We do not need to put another black mark on the sport, and it doesn't need anymore un-needed attention from unfortunate mishaps that may occur when under aged youth decided to go out and do whatever without taking the necessary precautions to ensure a good safe game. It takes one person to mess this up (not saying you will). Take this as constructive criticism whatever you like. I'm trying to do it in a way that you won't take it personal and no attack on you is intended. I just wanted to ensure you understand the position of many members of this forum on under aged people engaging in airsoft.

Maiden 11 you should take the advise of all these people, get av'd and get to the local sights. Forget the bullshit and have some fun before school starts. Get in with the Manitoba guys and you'll be fine, taken under a wing sort of thing.

Anything on your field that requires a shovel to construct will require an assload of maintenance. Be prepared for that.

This whole im going to do whatever no matter what and i didnt say that act is bullshit, kid dont fuck it up for the rest of us under aged people on here and make it any worse for the sport in general. Admins pleas lock this thread.

speaking of building a field.some friends and i have been thinking about building some "forts" at the field we play on to change things up a bit. anyway i have talked to some ppl,and a by-law officer as well,about legallity of building in the bush and they have said it should be fine as long as were not destroying the place or on private property. does anyone else know the deal with that or should i go into city hall and find out from them?

maiden11: if you could provide a few pictures of your yard, or maybe a top-down image of the area you're working with (scaled), then we might be able to provide some more useful advice.

I look at it this way.... People (under age - or otherwise) will play airsoft we can't control that right.....

so what we can control is their opinions of the "Airsoft community" and when these people get old enough they will either be part of or be apart from the community.

Please lets stop bashing underage players...

Remember that these folks will be the future field owners and suppliers etc and they will remember the treatment they received here.

I agree that on an organized basis (ie with the MAA) 18+ is the way to go but I have played at Ambush Airsoft (an outdoor speedball field) there were 15 year olds on the field and they called their hits, played with honor and had lots of fun...

so please lets just stop..... stop bashing young players... they will play if they are going to play and there is really nothing we can do...

instead of chasing them from our organizations we should welcome them in and show them the safe and proper way to do things... this way when they do turn 18 and continue to play we will not have to get bad traits out of them when they play with us eventually..

so please folks lets act like the "PROFESSIONALS" we profess to be... so far when i see someone who is not AV'd here and is under age all i see is them being met with hostility.

the people who run the board opened it up (or sections of it) to -18's so if you don't want to deal with underage people then please confine yourself to the 18+ sections then there will be no need for you to be hostile...

Remember Airsoft is a sport and a game... please treat it accordingly...

If you're within city limits I don't think you're allowed a "secondary accessory structure" bigger than x amount of square feet (it may be 250 sq.ft. I really don't know). This is the by-law in Vancouver as I am more familiar with it but you should probably get some building permits, talk to a by-law officer, and get a structural assessment of the fort you're building (is it more like a "castle" kind of fort or a one story kind of thing?).

I want pics of his parent's faces when they discover he built trenches in their garden.

I agree with T-hell, but i think its because here in MB, over the last few years we have become more tolerant with underage due to Ambush Anonymous. For those of you that dont know, its a clearsoft/airsoft range outside of winnipeg, and their target market is underagers. of course we were upset at first, but we went there, played, had a lot of fun.

Ya they had alot to learn there (like minimum engagement), but they still were great to play with. They were mature enough that we often invite them to our games, and we go to their events.

we cant stop people from underage airsoft, so we better dam influence them positively, because in 10 years, they will be all thats left.

I really cannot believe how much advice this kid is getting, even from an age verifier who should know better.

If one of your friends suffers a serious injury, both you and the owners of the property will be held liable as occupiers.

If you are not insured, you are taking a serious risk that could ruin the rest of your life.

Ld

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Going to have to agree with pus on this one. 3/4 an acre isn't that much land.. Could be easily seen by others. And the kid is going against our advice, and not realizing all of the real safety hazards there will be, especially if he does a half-assed job of building the stuff (which is easy to assume since he is a kid and probably doesn't have the funds or the inclination to do a proper job on this stuff).
And where did he and his friends get his guns in the first place? We shouldn't be condoning underagers buying guns and then playing with them in a backyard.. This is what ASC has been opposed to for years! Why change all of a sudden?
I am not flaming the kid, but I am going to say what everyone else who agrees with me is saying.

Wait until you are 18, and go out to real local fields with real airsofters and they can teach you the right way of doing things. Even once you are 16, I bet some of the fields will let you come and play with parental supervision/participation. But for now, many of us here at ASC are not going to condone kids who are under 18 making their own unsafe fields in their backyard, and then having them and their friends play with it (probably unsupervised) with guns they shouldn't have been able to get.

+1 on this one. My brother is sitting out and waiting until his 18 to play. He's 15 right now, and instead of buying guns and gear, he's looking at mine and learning from the tips I give him. He's mature enough to understand that these guns can be dangerous and there is reasons behind ASC has a limit on what age can play, this is not paintball.

Underage airsofters will always be around but personally for me, they won't receive any of my advice until they are 18 because they are not mature enough to understand there's an age limit for these things and since they won't listen to advice of waiting on 18+, are they really going to listen to advice on what brands, guns, ect? Kids, will be kids. Their parents are responsible if something goes wrong.

more like couple of boards placed to together for walls, maybe a few foxholes. little things like that but nothing too major. and its out in the bush where ppl have already built bike jumps (out of wood) and ramps and things so that's why we werent too sure. the place itself is used for bush parties all the time, and i know one of the other places here (same idea...bush party place) the cops dont really do anything unless its extreme ie- somone getting shot haha

my bad this was in response to L437ncy

Originally Posted by T-Hell View Post
I look at it this way.... People (under age - or otherwise) will play airsoft we can't control that right.....

Of course we can, this is our sport to protect and it is our right to.

well yes we play it so if that makes us the official body sure I guess so... but like i said people don't need ASC's permission to play in Canada only need permission here to buy guns from ASC so really the sport is open.

so what we can control is their opinions of the "Airsoft community" and when these people get old enough they will either be part of or be apart from the community.

By showing them that we will not bend the rules for them no matter how creative or mature they play themselves off to be, this one isn't very mature as he's already displayed his spoiled brat attitude of "I'm gonna do it whether you like it or not


Ok well yes we can be inflexibe and not bend but sooner or later these "kids" will be old enough and basically look back on ASC and say "Screw them" so is that what you really want. l

Please lets stop bashing underage players...

No one's bashing this guy, it's a stupid idea and he isn't the one responsible, you sound like you have a chip on your shoulder from being bashed yourself.

Nope never been bashed here but I see it a lot here just the attitude once many of the ASC community finds out that the person is underage changes and I am sure if you took a pole of the -18's they would say that they feel less then welcome by ASC... IMHO... We all have our opinion on his idea but he is not asking our opinions on the idea just looking for ideas on what to include on the field... it is obvious that he has not heard of MAA or any other fields like XT or Ambush so he is searching out information and asking the more learned (us) about it. if his parents agree and put up the structures etc well it is their land so be it..

All I am saying here is if you don't have something good to say and all that comes out is comments that are demeaning or just telling him it is stupid and he should wait well then why even read it...

Remember that these folks will be the future field owners and suppliers etc and they will remember the treatment they received here.

Future field owners? learning patience is a valuable thing, having the discipline to wait would help build character


Agree but face it none of us likes to wait for things. why should he be any different.

I agree that on an organized basis (ie with the MAA) 18+ is the way to go but I have played at Ambush Airsoft (an outdoor speedball field) there were 15 year olds on the field and they called their hits, played with honor and had lots of fun...

Sounds like fuckery to me, this Ambush thing, but thats just my opinion, some people will do anything for money


Actually there are 2 places that let minors play Xtreme Tactics (indoor airsoft CQB ) and Ambush Anonymous Airsoft. and yes they both charge $ to play but it is a controlled atmosphere that is supervised.

so please lets just stop..... stop bashing young players... they will play if they are going to play and there is really nothing we can do...

again no one bashed this guy, he's obviously not responsible for the health of people playing on his field, and too young to understand this. and YES we can do something, the same thing we have always done when someone wants to buy a gun underage, or play at an even underage, tell them NO!

I am quite sure that if you asked him he would consider some of the tones of the messages to be hostile... why not just ignore the post if you don't agree. really if he is going to he is going to get his father to join buy him a gun and do what he wants with or without our consent right... he will play regardless either on our fields where WE can control it or in his back yard where public may see it and bring negative attention... he will play anyway so why not have us govern it and teach him the right versus the wrong way...

instead of chasing them from our organizations we should welcome them in and show them the safe and proper way to do things... this way when they do turn 18 and continue to play we will not have to get bad traits out of them when they play with us eventually..

No one's chasing him, telling him that this isn't a good idea is not chasing him, if that isn't what he wants to hear then he can leave but no one told him to GTFO, about Bad Traits, what do you think we as experienced players do when we get new people? we fucking teach them the ropes, we don't depend on some retarded Airsoft "Little League" to teach them these skills, something like this Ambush thing only helps legitimize underage airsoft and is not a good thing at all.

By some people using forceful language against him and basically telling him he is not mature etc we are chasing him away... I would rather have him play at Ambush or XT or with the MAA versus shooting his gun in his yard at a cat or dog or whatever... sounds extreme but I am sure it happens.

so please folks lets act like the "PROFESSIONALS" we profess to be... so far when i see someone who is not AV'd here and is under age all i see is them being met with hostility.

Professionals? no one here gets paid to play airsoft, so I don't know where you are going with that, maybe because we use "Pro-grade" guns according to buyairsoft.ca hehehhehe


Professionalism is an attitude too... You don't get paid...? Just kidding.... but seriously we are the airsoft community in Canada and we need to have a professional attitude and by swearing at this guy we don't really show it much...

the people who run the board opened it up (or sections of it) to -18's so if you don't want to deal with underage people then please confine yourself to the 18+ sections then there will be no need for you to be hostile...

Again, this community AS A WHOLE believes in the 18+ rule, this isn't something we just came up with to kill this kid's buzz


Agree but a lot of people I see who post that are under 18 usually get whipped pretty hard on here just for asking a question... sure some of them are Noob questions (believe me I see them as a professional photographer) - What is the best wedding camera? bla bla bla... but ragging on the guy is just kind of mean...

Actually he kind of started in interesting topic (obviously lost by now) but a topic such as Making an Airsoft field may be of interest... who knows some adult out there who is sitting on a few acres may be interested and then boom we have another place to play....

Remember Airsoft is a sport and a game... please treat it accordingly...

Correction, it's a growing sport and it doesn't need any unneccessary publicity or attention in this gun fearing country of ours, which is why we try to protect it from damage by those not responsible enough


actually it does need publicity... good publicity and education of the public... what is it, why do we do it, is it just a bunch of people who the Army rejected who get their rocks off shooting others? (Example questions not my thoughts) we need to encourage people to learn and be tolerant of Airsoft then people can relax and we don't have to play a closet sport.



sorry to others who have had to read this... a am almost sorry I posted here as It has sparked a debate and taken it way off topic.

Thanks

I have played painball a few times and it is way more dangerous then AS... I can be on an AS field with shooting glasses and a BDU and all is good feel a pellet call hit.

Paintball well crap I get pelted with heaver ammo that hurts much more leaves welts

I do agree though still 18+ for buying guns (anywhere) but stores like cabellas and such don't abide by that... so the kids are getting em.. they will shoot them... where is up to us...

but yes I agree 18+

People often get whipped for asking a question because it is a question that has been asked umpteen million times, and we are sick of seeing the exact same thread. People don't know how to use search function apparently, or google. And then a lot of questions get asked where there is no way we can answer them. Vague questions, or comparisons, or questions about unreleased products.
Underagers shouldn't be playing, period. This IS an 18+ sport. But if they still want to, then we certainly shouldn't be helping them play.
We gave the advice; go to a field that will let you play. If there is a place that lets underagers go, then go there. And, come to out fields and check out the gear, meet the people, learn that way. But backyard playing... Generally frowned upon, for good reason.

Well, to add my two cents,

I'm first off rather appalled at the responses of some of the ASC members. Some of the guys complaining here seem rather immature themselves and I'd question whether their more mature then the 15 year olds that I see play at Ambush Anonymous. From my experience with operating Ambush Anonymous for 2 years, I've seen more 18+ participants doing stupid things to get kicked off then people under 18. I've actually never had to pull anyone aside that was underage however 18+ there are plenty of guys that I've had to talk to. So you guys, as much as you dislike the underage kids playing airsoft, you will need to accept it because were only going to get more. The one thing I do agree is that kids should not be allowed to purchase any airsoft guns, and I'm sure some slip by at Cabelas but for the most part their pretty strict on their policy. And as long as this kid is playing on his own property out of sight of others I don't think anyone would have a problem with that as long as every kid has permission to play from their parent and the parents are fully aware of what airsoft entails and the potential dangers it poses.

And in reply to the very first post (the actual topic of this thread). I do suggest you come check out our field www.aa-airsoft.com. Our latest event pics are here aa-airsoft.com/gallerypicsold/urban assualt 2009/ . You can probably get a good idea for a field from that too. And just a suggestion but don't build trenches. They're a big hazard. Your best off sticking to tires are pallets, they're the easiest materials to get a hold of that make good obstacles. But also be very careful when using pallets as their often filled with exposed nails and or broken pieces that can cause some serious injury.

Accept them playing all u want but this thread is about advising a kid on how to build a field and that is wrong

Wow. Simple and 100% true. /thread lol. Well put, pus. Very well put.

Yet teaching them woodworking classes in school is right?

Look, I really don't want to continue this argument (Since I've only surmised it in the past 5 or so minutes) but I see no problem with a kid wanting to put time and effort into a worthy project such as building an airsoft field, so long as his parents and proper authorities (Where required) have been notified. Now, playing airsoft and BUILDING A FIELD are 2 completely different things.

If he wants to play, I'd advise him to go to the nearest field at their next game (Provided they accept minors) and play with them, ask questions and get to know the community a bit. Also, bring a parent along when you go to that game (Provided he doesn't fully understand what airsofting is all about) so that he understands the risks involved with playing and the safety precautions that have been put in place. (Such as ballistic goggles)

Now for some misc. comments:
About the building a 2 story tower, I think you need to contact the local authorities to make sure it's sturdy and have someone inspect it.

If you're building an airsoft field so that you and your buds can play, well you're going to [blah... blah] parent's signing waivers [etc]

For ideas or a basic look on what a trench SHOULD be like, check for some photos\videos on the first world war.

Pallets\skids, or at least the ones people give away, are very... hazardous. Be careful with them.

Lastly, even if you're building this in your backyard, you are going to need to make it far enough away from the house, wouldn't want to hit windows, furniture or anything expensive while you're gaming.

your saying he can build it as long as he doesn't play in it?

A chef cooks food for others and does not eat it.

Same principle, different application.

Ok, so you want the minor to host games and you expect him to never play?

I never said host, and I expect him to play when he's AV'ed or no longer a minor. Plus, hosting a game shows you can be responsible, as long as everything is well regulated and fair.

Although as I've stated before, I don't see a problem with him building the field, which is what this thread was all about when it started, playing is a different matter.

I see what your saying. And if he was 17 and had 2-3 months to go I'd have no problem at all with this whole thing but as he refuses to say his age that only say's he's <15 yrs. And Frankly a child playing (which he will, his parent's will probably buy any gun for him he wants) is strongly discouraged and giving them instructions on how to build a place to play is only helping them play.

Well, at this point it's up to the kid to man up and tell us what his age is then. I don't see why he would be scared to post it in the first place considering how we all do it at some point, and it's the internet so anonymity is almost guaranteed.

Lol what is the point of him building a field n then not playing on it and who the hell is going to play with him? All his 18+ buddies right? :rolleyes:


Thread fail

We still don't know his actual age, and building a field doesn't happen overnight.

Why are you all arguing? You think the kid cares? everyone already helped him.

Was this thread started in Off-Topic? It should've been in Newbie Tank and closed after a strongly worded warning about underaged airsoft.

Cabellas... Policies....??? well hmmmm

I was there a week ago getting a pair of boots and happened to pass by the airsoft section where the sales guy was talking to a kid no joke must have been 12 at MAX...

the kid (no parent in sight) was looking at the Kracken... he picked up the box and said to the sales guy that he will take it... and walked away... Serious 12 and now with a gun...

ok so I approach the sales guy and say.... you do know the kid is totally under age to buy right. his response was "not my issue I suppose his mom and dad are getting it for him" I said I did not see any parents in your 3 min conversation did you... he shruged and walked away

I spoke to a manager (what I thought was a manager) and he said that it was not his problem and that they are just a retailer and they just sell the toys...

anywho fast forward I took my boots and went to the cash. stood in line and 2 people in front of me was this kid... and his gun...

he walked up to the cash (no parent in sight and paid cash for the gun and left. I quickly paid for my boots at another teller and left saw the kid jumping into a van with his mom driving... and they left

so cabellas will sell to anyone.... there in lies the problem folks... the Broxxa and the kracken are both easy to get and are ok guns.... they can certainly be painted black and well you know the rest...

even is this is a one off still should be a rule no Airsoft, no Pellet or No Real Steel sold to anyone under 18 plus you should have to sign a form stating that this gun will never be given to or fired by a minor. under penalty of some law or another....

BTW Walmart will sell the Crossman CO2 pistol and the pump shotgun to anyone too Saw a kid with a crossman CO2 walk out of the store and jump on his bike and go (no parent even in the parking lot)

so there is the root of the issue... in the tight economy a sale is a sale...

I gave up speaking to cabellas as I have seen this before from them and to make matters worse in another incident about a year ago the guy who was speaking to the minor and later sold him the gun (broxxa just came out) worked at XT in wpg. they let anyone 16+ play

so there are further reaching issues....

its a diffrent time here on ASC


he needs to put it nicley....

The Saint. A hero. This is what I am saying. This is what the mods do, so it is the point that we uphold. Underage airsoft is not condoned by us, and we will not help anybody figure out ways to circumvent the 18+ rules we have in place. Helping a kid make an airsoft field in his backyard... is helping him find a way to play.

And in response to the last post there... It shouldn't be a different time. Nothing has changed. Why should our feelings towards underage airsoft?

Yes there are the issues of kids getting their hands on guns, and unfortunately ASC has no control over their sales policies, what we do have control over is the stance we take on underage airsofting, WE DO NOT SUPPORT IT.

I don't care how heart-warming it feels to think of these brats as the future of airsoft, when you bend the rules for one impatient little mongrel, it's a slap in the face to everyone who's ever waited till they were 18 and those who are still waiting now.

He said hes younger than 15, which is too young to be playing airsoft, much less building a field where your other underaged friends can play at.

Thank you.