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Batchokookies August 13th, 2009 21:52

WE Tech SCAR GBB for the Canadian market
 
Hello everyone. I just thought I'd share this with you guys as I was very excited to hear this. About 2 days ago I e-mailed WE tech asking for a custom made clear lower receiver for the scar, so I could head down to the states, slap it on and bring it up legally. but I got better news, here is the e-mail I received last night.

Hi *Batchokookies*,

I'm happy to notify you that a clear body SCAR will be available shortly for the Canadian market! ( see attached). Spread the words!! :)

Hi David,

Pls assure *Batchokookies* here that the SCAR will soon be available to the Canadian airsoft public, thanks!!

Kindest Regards,
James B. Chan

Managing Director
WE Tactical Training International
james@weairsoft.com
admin@weairsoft.com

Hopefully it won't be too long, and I also hoped that the Canadian retailers adopt this item into their catalog!

I'm sure you all know about the WE SCAR, but for those who don't here are some info links;

YouTube - WE SCAR Introduction
YouTube - WE SCAR DEMONSTRATION

Chadillac August 13th, 2009 22:22

*best super troopers voice* "Mother of god"

kullwarrior August 14th, 2009 00:58

Hopefully the stock would be reinforce so it wouldnt break like a baby

Wrath144 August 14th, 2009 01:09

My sympathies to gun doctors nationwide.

IceTray August 14th, 2009 01:14

Do want.
Wonder what the price will be.

Skladfin August 14th, 2009 01:34

great fucking job bud

wait, I just realized, isnt the serial number on the Upper receiver of the SCAR?

Batchokookies August 14th, 2009 02:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceTray (Post 1045017)
Do want.
Wonder what the price will be.

Well in the states it's 300$, so I'm guessing 4-600$

Shirley August 14th, 2009 02:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batchokookies (Post 1045046)
Well in the states it's 300$, so I'm guessing 4-600$

Pft, not even close buddy.

AGM M4 cost $200, in Canada is $700-$900.


For this, you're looking at about $1100.

theguy August 14th, 2009 02:21

I think he means for the clear one. Those should be a little more reasonably priced

HaloSix4 August 14th, 2009 02:28

Pft not even close buddy, More like $450 - $500 for an AGM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shirley (Post 1045054)
Pft, not even close buddy.

AGM M4 cost $200, in Canada is $700-$900.


For this, you're looking at about $1100.


lawldragon August 14th, 2009 02:29

G&G "Affordable Series" M16 runs for around $160 in the states and are sold here for around $300 and a $300 ICS M16 runs for around $420 here. Hopefully the a clear receiver WE GBB will mean that a quality GBB will be available for under $500! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by theguy (Post 1045055)
I think he means for the clear one. Those should be a little more reasonably priced


Batchokookies August 14th, 2009 02:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by theguy (Post 1045055)
I think he means for the clear one. Those should be a little more reasonably priced

Thank you theguy, that's exactly what I was referring to. I don't see why anyone would pay upwards of $1000 just to get a black/tan lower receiver. Hey btw I like your sig that's pretty much the position I'm in.

Skladfin August 14th, 2009 02:54

uhmm.. what about the fact that the serial number is on the upper receiver guys?

Sim123456 August 14th, 2009 07:11

Quote:

I don't see why anyone would pay upwards of $1000 just to get a black/tan lower receiver
I don't see why anyone would buy this GBB with clear receiver if they can buy it with metal receiver in the classified!

:)

Beowulfe August 14th, 2009 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim123456 (Post 1045089)
I don't see why anyone would buy this GBB with clear receiver if they can buy it with metal receiver in the classified!

The lower receiver on the WE Scar is plastic/ABS.

Beowulfe August 14th, 2009 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 1045026)
....wait, I just realized, isnt the serial number on the Upper receiver of the SCAR?

You are very correct sir!

Goge August 14th, 2009 09:50

sweet zombie jesus... by oden's spear... by zues's beard... by merlin's raven...

Yay, I'ma get it. Also if the lower receiver is going to be ABS in the "full metal" version anyway whats the problem with getting the clear receiver version for hundreds of $$$ less if I'm going to be spraying the whole thing OD anyway? Tan is terrable in the green fields I play.

Long_Bong August 14th, 2009 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beowulfe (Post 1045109)
The lower receiver on the WE Scar is plastic/ABS.

Is this certain? On UN, the AEG is described as Material: Full Metal with Nylon Fiber Stock & Grip

Beowulfe August 14th, 2009 11:00

Maybe its a reinforced polymer, but the point I was trying to make to the poster is that the lower on the WE SCAR is not metal.

EDIT: Long-Bong, the lower receiver is not metal.

R3CON1 August 14th, 2009 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Long_Bong (Post 1045137)
Is this certain? On UN, the AEG is described as Material: Full Metal with Nylon Fiber Stock & Grip

I confirm the canadian custom dont like the WE scar.
Ils mon saisie le mien !!! &?$&%$"/&?%%?*!!!!!!

I buy this toy from UNcompagny.
:(

The Saint August 14th, 2009 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by R3CON1 (Post 1045163)
I confirm the canadian custom dont like the WE scar.
Ils mon saisie le mien !!! &?$&%$"/&?%%?*!!!!!!

I buy this toy from UNcompagny.
:(

You've been here since 2005 and you still tried to import something classified as replica firearm?

Long_Bong August 14th, 2009 11:36

Importing replica is like going to the casino, sometime you win, sometime you loose...

Spoke to a friend who spoke to a friend who work at CSBA, to quote him: you would be amaze at the amount of replica seized everyday...

Drake August 14th, 2009 11:45

I wouldn't mind a non-clear one. The listed FPS range seems more gameable than the WE M4 GBBR..? (I'm seeing 350-400 in most places)

ujiro August 14th, 2009 12:11

I am hoping that since the lower receiver is clear, despite the serial number being on the upper, that the CBSA will let it pass. I mean, to my knowledge, the AR15 and the SCAR have a similar firing mechanism, so I would assume the same parts that are in the lower on an AR15 are in the lower of a SCAR, and the same for their respective uppers. And they allow clear lowered M4 AEGs through, so I would *hope* they would let in clear lowered SCARs in as well.

The Saint August 14th, 2009 12:16

There are no clear real SCARs, so the airsoft version with the clear lower aren't replicas.

theshaneler August 14th, 2009 12:26

mmmmmm sexy as f**k

sushicake August 14th, 2009 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saint (Post 1045201)
There are no clear real SCARs, so the airsoft version with the clear lower aren't replicas.

There are no clear hi-capas either, but the CBSA now says you cant bring em into canada.

The Saint August 14th, 2009 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by sushicake (Post 1045210)
There are no clear hi-capas either, but the CBSA now says you cant bring em into canada.

Don't bring up the Hi-Capas if you don't know what you're talking about. The issue is with the lower frame on the KJW Hi-Capa, which is quite opaque. The clear pistol grip does not count.

Brian McIlmoyle August 14th, 2009 12:57

It's still a judgement call on the part of the individual agent who looks at it..

There is a bit of a "smell test" .. if it is not sufficiently distinguished from its replica or real counterpart to be easily recognized as a toy due to its clear parts.. then there could be a problem... somehow I don't think these will pass that "smell test"

retailers that have a effective working relation may be able to get them in .. but I think individuals may still run afoul of the discretion of the the CBSA agent who looks at thier particular package upon import.

this is by no means a "score!"

Batchokookies August 14th, 2009 13:43

Sorry I might just not know what you guys are talking about, but what does the serial number have to do with importing it? And isn't the law very solid now that if a rifle has a clear lower receiver it's legal?

theshaneler August 14th, 2009 14:13

nope, the part that has the serial number on the RS version is the part that is illegal to import, on M4s the number is on the lower and that's why its illegal. on the scar the number is on the upper so that is the part that is illegal

ShelledPants August 14th, 2009 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by theshaneler (Post 1045278)
nope, the part that has the serial number on the RS version is the part that is illegal to import, on M4s the number is on the lower and that's why its illegal. on the scar the number is on the upper so that is the part that is illegal

Just to add my two cents from my own experience:

The part on all weapons which is considered restricted, is the housing of the trigger group. In an Armalite, it's the lower, the AK, the lower, the MP5, the lower. In 1911 it's the lower frame, in Glocks it's the lower frame, in 2011's (HiCapas) it's the middle frame.

But in some rifles, like the AUG and P90, it's the upper.

I don't know shit about the SCAR, but just because it has a serial on the upper, doesn't mean it houses the trigger group there: in fact I doubt it does as it's a non-bullpup weapon.

Ultimately, it's the judgment of the CBSA agent who inspects the package if it's good to go, which is why some few select people have ordered all black guns online from the USA and have had them arrive intact.

Others have had clear lowered guns confiscated (and all clear springer pistols). There is no set pattern. The CBSA is like their own country, if an agent deems it illegal for border crossing: it will not make it.

StayPufft August 14th, 2009 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 1045282)
Just to add my two cents from my own experience:

The part on all weapons which is considered restricted, is the housing of the trigger group. In an Armalite, it's the lower, the AK, the lower, the MP5, the lower. In 1911 it's the lower frame, in Glocks it's the lower frame, in 2011's (HiCapas) it's the middle frame.

.

I don't now if that's true. If you look at the mp5's that Ken at 007 is selling they have clear uppers and a black trigger group. I don't know much about mp5's but it looks like they disassemble kinda the same way as the SCAR. I still really hope I'm wrong and we can get scars easy!

Brian McIlmoyle August 14th, 2009 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by StayPufft (Post 1045287)
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I don't now if that's true. If you look at the mp5's that Ken at 007 is selling they have clear uppers and a black trigger group. I don't know much about mp5's but it looks like they disassemble kinda the same way as the SCAR. I still really hope I'm wrong and we can get scars easy!

MP5 has the serial number on the upper receiver.. the upper is the restricted part.

really I doubt it matters much .. itcomes down the the judgment of the cbsa agent.. so some may get em through others not so much

when these are released we can try a part out and pack in and see if they fly..

theshaneler August 14th, 2009 17:14

i want one soooo bad

Skladfin August 14th, 2009 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shirley (Post 1045054)
Pft, not even close buddy.

AGM M4 cost $200, in Canada is $700-$900.


For this, you're looking at about $1100.

He means the clear version. The WE SCAR L is sold for $220USD @ WGC shop. should cost around $400~500 here

venture August 14th, 2009 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saint (Post 1045212)
Don't bring up the Hi-Capas if you don't know what you're talking about. The issue is with the lower frame on the KJW Hi-Capa, which is quite opaque. The clear pistol grip does not count.

Bwahahaha!!!!It's funny that you can't get the clear plastic toy into the country while the RS is made in Ontario. Gun laws are f#%&ed!

This thread is explaining a lot about the import laws in our beloved country. However, there is still some conflicting info here: is it trigger group or serial number?

808 August 14th, 2009 22:18

Sounds to me like some of you guys are trying to rationalize inconsistent and irrational behavior.

Good luck with that.

Brakoo August 14th, 2009 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saint (Post 1045166)
You've been here since 2005 and you still tried to import something classified as replica firearm?

Did he say anywhere that he had no clue it could get seized ? You're just making assumptions here based on things that weren't said anywhere. I know that he knew it was a gamble.

venture August 14th, 2009 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brakoo (Post 1045553)
Did he say anywhere that he had no clue it could get seized ? You're just making assumptions here based on things that weren't said anywhere. I know that he knew it was a gamble.

Yeah and it's a shame too. They are not harmful, why are they banned? I know it's been discussed to death.

oOMuDOo August 15th, 2009 08:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by venture (Post 1045556)
Yeah and it's a shame too. They are not harmful, why are they banned? I know it's been discussed to death.

The underlining issue is the realism resemblance of the gun(s).

oblivious August 15th, 2009 14:29

Awesome! :cool:

kuchervano August 15th, 2009 14:33

Are you shoot of spray?
You get choice now!


Glorious.

Agent T September 27th, 2010 19:09

So the bottom line is that the we TEch SCAR is illegal because the lower receiver is not clear? Then why are they for sale on some canadian airsoft sites? I have one and i plan to play with it. On the box it said that it is custom made for the canadian market but the lower receiver is not clear, it is tan plastic. That would be illogical.

KoolAidMan September 27th, 2010 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent T (Post 1322783)
So the bottom line is that the we TEch SCAR is illegal because the lower receiver is not clear? Then why are they for sale on some canadian airsoft sites? I have one and i plan to play with it. On the box it said that it is custom made for the canadian market but the lower receiver is not clear, it is tan plastic. That would be illogical.

thanks for reviving a dead thread with useless info why dont you ask the retailer that idiot

Agent T September 27th, 2010 22:18

Wow, glad to see that the airsoft community supports players across canada.

pusangani September 27th, 2010 23:19

Yeh, we don't support stupid though.


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